Monogatari Series: Final Season
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Aug 12, 2017 11:12 PM
#1
So I've heard a lot of good things about the monogatari series and have been wanting to watch it but I have no clue where to start, like, there are so many seasons, when I went through the MAL pages they seem to be kinda conflicted (some sequels are a side story of a prequel, the date they released lthe prequel is later than the sequel etc). so could anyone tell me where to start watching this from? I remember watching Bakemonogatari when I was about 9/10 (I didn't get anything about the show when I was that age so I showed no interest in it) and since then I've forgotten basically everything about it so pls tell me in which order I should watch the show |
Aug 12, 2017 11:14 PM
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Aug 12, 2017 11:43 PM
#3
A: Bakemonogatari If you like the series then see: https://www.reddit.com/r/araragi/wiki/order |
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Aug 13, 2017 12:02 AM
#4
https://www.google.com Link has everything you need friendo |
Aug 13, 2017 11:55 AM
#5
I'm really bothered by this order, basically because they're putting Kizumonogatari so late. IMHO it should be watched like novels were released, with Kizu after Bake. |
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Aug 13, 2017 12:02 PM
#6
You can take a look at this image (taken from this reddit post). |
Aug 13, 2017 9:26 PM
#7
MisterD said: This is the airing order, and you should follow it: Bakemonogatari Nisemonogatari Nekomonogatari Monogatari Series 2 Tsukimonogatari Owarimonogatari Hanamonogatari Kizumonogatari 1,2,3 optional: Koyomimonogatari (filler season) Owarimonogatari 2 There's no problem watching it in that order, right? Jeez. I have to start watching Bakemonogatari now. Gaaah. |
Aug 13, 2017 9:37 PM
#8
TheDoggoneGirl said: MisterD said: This is the airing order, and you should follow it: Bakemonogatari Nisemonogatari Nekomonogatari Monogatari Series 2 Tsukimonogatari Owarimonogatari Hanamonogatari Kizumonogatari 1,2,3 optional: Koyomimonogatari (filler season) Owarimonogatari 2 There's no problem watching it in that order, right? Jeez. I have to start watching Bakemonogatari now. Gaaah. Koyomimonogatari isn't optional btw, it's all cannon and last two episodes are crucial to the plot of Owarimonogatari 2nd Season. |
Aug 13, 2017 10:02 PM
#9
TheDoggoneGirl said: While koyomi is mostly filler, the last episode of koyomi is not. Well, the event was recap'd in the opening of Owarimonogatari s2 first episode, So I wouldn't say you NEED to watch koyomimonogatari, but it was a fun and short, so there's no loss in giving it a try if you find yourself loving the series.MisterD said: This is the airing order, and you should follow it: Bakemonogatari Nisemonogatari Nekomonogatari Monogatari Series 2 Tsukimonogatari Owarimonogatari Hanamonogatari Kizumonogatari 1,2,3 optional: Koyomimonogatari (filler season) Owarimonogatari 2 There's no problem watching it in that order, right? Jeez. I have to start watching Bakemonogatari now. Gaaah. Orzi said: Any reason why it is bother you just because it not follow the novel order? I see no actually problem to be honest, in fact I quite like how SHAFT arrange Kizu to this late. I'm really bothered by this order, basically because they're putting Kizumonogatari so late. IMHO it should be watched like novels were released, with Kizu after Bake. Watching Kizu before Owari2 can make us familiar with Shinobu's personality. Some people are in a wrong assumption that Shinobu's mentality/personality change base on her appearance/form/age, when in fact it is not. Watching Kizu before Owari2 can make you see why or for a better word, can make us easily pull a comparison of "original SHinobu" and "Araragi's Shinobu". I'm not saying you CAN'T see it if you watch it as novel order but watching in SHAFT order can make you easily see and notice that Shinobu's personality/mentality never change through her form, but influenced by Araragi. |
Aug 13, 2017 11:23 PM
#10
for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable |
Aug 14, 2017 4:55 AM
#11
TheDoggoneGirl said: MisterD said: This is the airing order, and you should follow it: Bakemonogatari Nisemonogatari Nekomonogatari Monogatari Series 2 Tsukimonogatari Owarimonogatari Hanamonogatari Kizumonogatari 1,2,3 optional: Koyomimonogatari (filler season) Owarimonogatari 2 There's no problem watching it in that order, right? Jeez. I have to start watching Bakemonogatari now. Gaaah. Hana is BEFORE Tsuki and Owari. |
Aug 14, 2017 5:09 AM
#12
TheDoggoneGirl said: MisterD said: This is the airing order, and you should follow it: Bakemonogatari Nisemonogatari Nekomonogatari Monogatari Series 2 Tsukimonogatari Owarimonogatari Hanamonogatari Kizumonogatari 1,2,3 optional: Koyomimonogatari (filler season) Owarimonogatari 2 There's no problem watching it in that order, right? Jeez. I have to start watching Bakemonogatari now. Gaaah. This list is wrong. First of all koyomi is not optional. Also Hana should be before Tsuki. Also I think you should watch Koyomi before Kizu. |
sasalxAug 14, 2017 5:17 AM
Aug 14, 2017 7:02 AM
#13
RockerXD said: for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable What's your source? Waaah. I'm so confused now. Hahaha. |
Aug 14, 2017 10:43 AM
#14
Watch it in this order: 1:Bakemonogatari 2:Nisemonogatari 3:Nekomonogatari Kuro 4:Monogatari Second Season 5:Hanamonogatari 6:Tsukimonogatari 7:Owarimonogatari 8:Koyomimonogatari 9:Owarimonogatari 2nd Season As for Kizumonogatari you can watch it any time after Bakemonogatari, I watched it after koyomimonogatri and loved it so again it won't matter when you watch it All the series in the list are canon, though koyomi is pseudocanon but enjoyble nontheless and you will love it if you liked the whole series but remember that some parts of it are completely canon and lead directly into owari s2, overall I recommend you watch it. Hope I cleared all your queries. |
Aug 14, 2017 9:59 PM
#15
Having just marathoned the series, this is IMO the best watch order. Basically just release order with hana moved to novel release order. Kizu can kinda go wherever. Bake Nise Neko white Monogatari season 2 Watch hana between the second and third arc of season 2* Tsuki Owari S1 Koyomi Kizu** Owari S2 *Shaft had to cut down season 2 in order to fit tv broadcast or something so they cut out hana since it was the least related story and just released it separately afterwards. However the novel release order has it between the second arc (mayoi jiangshi) and the third arc (nadeko medusa). Hana takes place a year after all the other events in season 2 and confirms the fate of many of the characters. The characters are put into what appears to be a dangerous cliffhanger in nadeko medusa when the viewers are supposed to already know who is fine and who isn't so it creates undo tension which makes it frustrating that they don't get back to that cliffhanger for quite some time. If you watch hana in novel order there is no problem waiting to see how the situation resolves. There's also a shock moment in koi that is kinda misrepresented without having seen hana first. ** Kizu can be watched anytime after bake (and honestly it'd probably be fine even beforehand) but a lot of the information is relevant in owari season 2 so IMO it's nice to watch it right beforehand. The only thing that will really come of watching it earlier is that the audience will be able to more accurately guess someones identity in owari season 1 but we find out their identity like 2 minutes later anyway and it's not really a big deal. Kizu is otherwise just side information that isn't really relevant to anything outside of owari season 2. If you wanted to watch it earlier, right after bake is probably best. |
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Aug 15, 2017 6:38 AM
#16
I'll personally fall into the camp of "there is no specific order" as each arc in the series is mostly it's own self contained story in which you really wouldn't need much knowledge from other events to understand what you're watching. That said, airing order is what everyone mainly goes for and if you want to see the series play out event after event then it's chronological order you should go for. You'll most likely won't have a hard time understanding the series either way you watch it. Hopefully you like it. :) |
Aug 15, 2017 10:06 AM
#17
TheDoggoneGirl said: That is a correct releasing order, you can check release date from each of them if you want source.RockerXD said: for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable What's your source? Waaah. I'm so confused now. Hahaha. https://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=monogatari&type=0&score=0&status=0&p=44&r=0&sm=0&sd=0&sy=0&em=0&ed=0&ey=0&c[0]=a&c[1]=b&c[2]=c&c[3]=d&c[4]=f&gx=1&genre[0]=16&o=2&w=1&o=2&w=2 |
CactiiAug 15, 2017 10:15 AM
Aug 15, 2017 12:46 PM
#18
simplest go to shaft page sort by date of air and watch like this |
Aug 15, 2017 4:33 PM
#19
Just watch it in the order of release. That’s how I did and I still understood plenty. |
Aug 15, 2017 4:58 PM
#20
Thewimo said: Like PZenith already said, this order is made by the Monogatari Subreddit to be specific by user maxdefolsch: I once saw this list a long time ago and it was so far from having everything adapted... now almost everything is sadface |
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Aug 15, 2017 7:12 PM
#21
Orzi said: I'm really bothered by this order, basically because they're putting Kizumonogatari so late. IMHO it should be watched like novels were released, with Kizu after Bake. I completely agree with this. Just because the novels were adapted out of order doesn't change the original intended order of the story. Watching it in broadcast order changes the context of many scenes and conversations, and straight up ruins certain mysteries and (purposeful) anticlimaxes For anyone reading this who would like to watch it in this order, it goes: Bake Kizu Nise Neko Kuro Neko Shiro Kabuki Hana* Otori Oni Koi Tsuki Koyomi Owari Zokuowari *Keep in mind that Hana was not adapted in Monogatari Series Second Season (Neko Shiro through Koi) so it has to be watched after the second arc, Kabuki, and then continue with Second Season as normal. |
Aug 16, 2017 5:42 AM
#22
Cactii said: TheDoggoneGirl said: That is a correct releasing order, you can check release date from each of them if you want source.RockerXD said: for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable What's your source? Waaah. I'm so confused now. Hahaha. https://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=monogatari&type=0&score=0&status=0&p=44&r=0&sm=0&sd=0&sy=0&em=0&ed=0&ey=0&c[0]=a&c[1]=b&c[2]=c&c[3]=d&c[4]=f&gx=1&genre[0]=16&o=2&w=1&o=2&w=2 Alright. Thanks soooo much. :) |
Aug 16, 2017 9:43 AM
#23
GodHimselfx100 said: ** Kizu can be watched anytime after bake (and honestly it'd probably be fine even beforehand) but a lot of the information is relevant in owari season 2 so IMO it's nice to watch it right beforehand. The only thing that will really come of watching it earlier is that the audience will be able to more accurately guess someones identity in owari season 1 but we find out their identity like 2 minutes later anyway and it's not really a big deal. Kizu is otherwise just side information that isn't really relevant to anything outside of owari season 2. If you wanted to watch it earlier, right after bake is probably best. The thing with Kizu is that they removed most of the internal monoluges, I think it's best to watch it towards the end so you have a good grasp of Araragi's character. |
Aug 16, 2017 9:46 AM
#24
I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. |
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Aug 17, 2017 8:11 AM
#25
Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. |
Aug 17, 2017 9:08 AM
#26
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 17, 2017 9:11 AM
#27
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. |
Aug 17, 2017 9:16 AM
#28
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 24, 2017 5:27 AM
#29
Not sure if this right place to ask but If watched all of the series before is it worth to re watch it in chronological order? Or should wait till zoku is out? I m planning to re watch it soon. |
Aug 24, 2017 8:56 AM
#30
Go for it, Zokuowari is just an epilogue anyway. Rewatching in chronological should give you a new perspective on the overall plot and Ougi's actions, not to mention all the foreshadowing you didn't notice before. https://www.reddit.com/r/araragi/comments/413akz/spoilers_any_obsessive_ln_readers_to_help_me_with/ Here's a detailed timeline if you need it. |
Aug 24, 2017 10:44 AM
#31
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. |
Aug 24, 2017 11:04 AM
#32
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. That's cool, Kitten. They both work.. lmao. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 24, 2017 11:10 AM
#33
TheDoggoneGirl said: RockerXD said: for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable What's your source? Waaah. I'm so confused now. Hahaha. It's easier if you just don't watch it at all :')) |
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Aug 24, 2017 11:12 AM
#34
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. That's cool, Kitten. They both work.. lmao. You wouldn't know that. |
Aug 24, 2017 11:17 AM
#35
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. That's cool, Kitten. They both work.. lmao. You wouldn't know that. BOI "I only know what I know" |
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Aug 24, 2017 1:28 PM
#36
Yaboku said: TheDoggoneGirl said: RockerXD said: for a visual aid on how to watch the series. I find koyomimonogatari and kizumonogatari interchangeable What's your source? Waaah. I'm so confused now. Hahaha. It's easier if you just don't watch it at all :')) So savage. Goddamn. Hahahaha. P.S. I'm just going to watch the entire series in release order. Haha. |
Aug 24, 2017 2:47 PM
#37
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. That's cool, Kitten. They both work.. lmao. No it doesnt. There is are reason why that airing order exist. Even the writer stated that many times. NothingReally said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. I assume you're talking about official orders. In that case, for the anime there's only one. Technically since there's 13 titles in the monogatari anime series, there are millions of ways to watch the series. Not to mention you could just watch random episodes in any order. You could even watch it backwards. That doesn't make it the right and intended way to watch the show. Let people watch the show the correct way (and it is correct) before you fuck up their experience. Hear hear. |
Aug 24, 2017 2:51 PM
#38
NothingReally said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. I assume you're talking about official orders. In that case, for the anime there's only one. Technically since there's 13 titles in the monogatari anime series, there are millions of ways to watch the series. Not to mention you could just watch random episodes in any order. You could even watch it backwards. That doesn't make it the right and intended way to watch the show. Let people watch the show the correct way (and it is correct) before you fuck up their experience. Thank you for this. Some people just don't understand. |
Aug 24, 2017 2:59 PM
#39
You only watch it in a different order when your thinking to re watch it,if you watch for first time in non airing order it be like seening ending before the start for example or in this series case you will miss experience of your mind being mess up lol. |
Aug 24, 2017 4:08 PM
#40
NothingReally said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. I assume you're talking about official orders. In that case, for the anime there's only one. Technically since there's 13 titles in the monogatari anime series, there are millions of ways to watch the series. Not to mention you could just watch random episodes in any order. You could even watch it backwards. That doesn't make it the right and intended way to watch the show. Let people watch the show the correct way (and it is correct) before you fuck up their experience. You can watch it in chronological order and it still makes sense. There's also the airing order, which you guys are watching it in. It doesn't really matter if it's "right" or not. I didn't watch the Fate series the "right" way and I still loved it. Take your pretentiousness elsewhere kiddo. |
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Aug 24, 2017 4:10 PM
#41
sasalx said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. No they don't. They adapted the series this way for a reason. That's cool, Kitten. They both work.. lmao. No it doesnt. There is are reason why that airing order exist. Even the writer stated that many times. NothingReally said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.. Well, that's the wrong way to watch it. I hope you know that. I don't really care? I hope you know that. Ok, but don't recommend that way to others. Just because you watched it that way doesn't mean everyone should watch it that way. Not everyone enjoys watching it like that. There are two orders for a reason - they both work. I assume you're talking about official orders. In that case, for the anime there's only one. Technically since there's 13 titles in the monogatari anime series, there are millions of ways to watch the series. Not to mention you could just watch random episodes in any order. You could even watch it backwards. That doesn't make it the right and intended way to watch the show. Let people watch the show the correct way (and it is correct) before you fuck up their experience. Hear hear. Explain why it doesn't work, then. What is the exact reason? |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 24, 2017 5:33 PM
#42
Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the two first Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. |
rapo1Aug 24, 2017 6:23 PM
Aug 24, 2017 6:14 PM
#43
rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. |
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Aug 24, 2017 6:33 PM
#44
Zelev said: Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I think following any order might be misleading (you should at least follow the LN), but who cares, it's not like you are kicking cats or putting babies on fire. Also, one thing that's interesting to note is how Nisio doesn't really care about continuation. For example, in Bake Oshino says that he had to restrain Araragi with crosses and garlic when he went berserk, but in Kizumo he never actually does that. And in Kizumo (of this I am not really certain if it was an error by the writer or a lie by Shinobu), Shinobu says that her first minion killed himself out of boredom after some years being a vampire, but in Shinobu Time she says he killed himself right after being turned into a vampire, and I don't remember Araragi retorting at the different version of the story. |
rapo1Aug 24, 2017 6:38 PM
Aug 24, 2017 6:39 PM
#45
Zelev said: rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I guess you could consider Kizu as "it just boils down to opinion" but the order for the rest of the series certainly isn't that. |
Aug 24, 2017 6:40 PM
#46
NothingReally said: There's a very clear intention. Not knowing the full story of Araragi and Shinobu's relationship creates a sort of curiosity, and due to it building up over a large amount of time, it holds more weight when we get those answers. Monogatari would've just started from the beginning of kizu and aired in that order if that was the way it was intended to be watched. You can rewatch it any way you want, but if you watched it in some made up order, then you have not experienced the work as the artist intended. Not remotely close. So when somebody's asking what order you're supposed to watch the series, don't give them additional confusion. Exactly. Agree 100% |
Aug 24, 2017 7:24 PM
#47
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I guess you could consider Kizu as "it just boils down to opinion" but the order for the rest of the series certainly isn't that. I mean I don't hold the series in high regard anyway with lolis, borderline incest, lots of fan service. To each their own. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 24, 2017 7:47 PM
#48
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I guess you could consider Kizu as "it just boils down to opinion" but the order for the rest of the series certainly isn't that. I mean I don't hold the series in high regard anyway with lolis, borderline incest, lots of fan service. To each their own. My problem was never with your opinion on the series itself. I don't think any of what you said brings down the show in any way, but whatever. You do you. My problem was with you telling others to deliberately confuse themselves more by watching it in a way that isn't intended for newcomers. |
Aug 24, 2017 7:54 PM
#49
Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I guess you could consider Kizu as "it just boils down to opinion" but the order for the rest of the series certainly isn't that. I mean I don't hold the series in high regard anyway with lolis, borderline incest, lots of fan service. To each their own. My problem was never with your opinion on the series itself. I don't think any of what you said brings down the show in any way, but whatever. You do you. My problem was with you telling others to deliberately confuse themselves more by watching it in a way that isn't intended for newcomers. No, you just got your panties in a bunch because I dared mention the chronological order. Exactly what part of.. "I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.." ..was confusing? The first sentence literally states there's the airing order. Then I later stated I watched it in chronological order. The OP can do whatever he/she wants. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Aug 24, 2017 7:58 PM
#50
Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: Kittens-kun said: Zelev said: rapo1 said: Just watch in airing order. The only one that airing order doesn't really matter (provided that you watched Bake first) is Kizumo, but I recommend that you watch at least SS too before watching the movies. As others stated, it gives a better experience overall. The rest of the anime is the same order of the novels, so there's really no sense in watching on "chronological order", since the right order of the story is shown by the LNs. The order of the light novels put Kizumo after Bake. However, seeing that Nisio decided to publish Kizumo first in the english translation, the order doesn't really matter, and this "artist's intention" thing is just pretentious bull by annoying fans. The animations are basically a word by word adaptation of the novels so the story doesn't change. However, is this particular case, I believe it is better to know the origin of the saga after getting familiarized with it first. Think Star Wars. Even though I didn't really like both the Kizumo movies and LN, I think it was better to already be familiarized with the characters before delving into it. Yeah, it just boils down to opinion. Whatever each individual viewer wants. As for me, I just want to watch it. I don't really care if the "better" part comes first or not. Although technically, I guess started with Neko first (years ago). Then Bake, then the movies came out so I watched those. As long as you can piece together how the story goes. I guess you could consider Kizu as "it just boils down to opinion" but the order for the rest of the series certainly isn't that. I mean I don't hold the series in high regard anyway with lolis, borderline incest, lots of fan service. To each their own. My problem was never with your opinion on the series itself. I don't think any of what you said brings down the show in any way, but whatever. You do you. My problem was with you telling others to deliberately confuse themselves more by watching it in a way that isn't intended for newcomers. No, you just got your panties in a bunch because I dared mention the chronological order. Exactly what part of.. "I hate the airing order. It was just so confusing, so I watched it in chronological order. It starts with the 3 movies and then goes from there.." ..was confusing? The first sentence literally states there's the airing order. Then I later stated I watched it in chronological order. The OP can do whatever he/she wants. And I'm saying that CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER IS NOT THE RIGHT ORDER. Is that confusing even in all caps? |
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