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Aug 26, 2016 6:53 AM
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The more I look at Mozgus in this series, the more he kinda creeps me out..
He's pretty dedicated to his prayer though.

Nice to see the Skull Knight again and he came at the right time to save Luca. Now if this wasn't in CGI, the part with Guts going badass at the end would of been better.

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Aug 26, 2016 8:18 AM
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I must have forgotten something or the series are really bad at explaining shit. Who the hell is that skull knight, where did he come from. How did Guts get Casca back, as far as I remember, the original berserk ended after that gore fest porn with him left alone in the middle of nowhere.
Aug 26, 2016 8:32 AM
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That was tight, Mozgus and his boys finally transformed.

They're about to fuck Guts up next episode.
Aug 26, 2016 8:37 AM
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Milchy said:
I must have forgotten something or the series are really bad at explaining shit. Who the hell is that skull knight, where did he come from. How did Guts get Casca back, as far as I remember, the original berserk ended after that gore fest porn with him left alone in the middle of nowhere.


The skull knight is never really explained in the manga.
There are just hints as to who he is.

To bridge between the series and this anime, you should watch the third movie instead. It explains what happens after the "gore fest" and shows skull knight.
Aug 26, 2016 8:46 AM
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Good episode.

Farneese is a little annoying during this stage, I guess that's part of her currently wavering ideals.
Puck is awesome as always.

Skull Knight, Looking cool as always :D
Mozgus look bizarre to me, Never like his transformation.

Gut's action sequence was epic, I got chills when he impaled that guy. Soundtrack makes it even more epic, Fight next episode is gonna be real good.

Milchy said:
I must have forgotten something or the series are really bad at explaining shit. Who the hell is that skull knight, where did he come from. How did Guts get Casca back, as far as I remember, the original berserk ended after that gore fest porn with him left alone in the middle of nowhere.

Have you not read the manga? Cause I really don't think you should be watching this without reading the manga. They skipped 2 arcs which happen before the current one and did some random anime-original stuff to try and connect to this arc, While they have been adapting this arc fairly faithfully, some informative chapters have been skipped as well if I'm not wrong.

As for Skull Knight, He's the one who saves Guts and Casca from the Eclipse (The gore fest), I think the original Berserk changed a few things but I haven't seen it so I don't know. If you've seen the movies however you'll see that he saves Guts.
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Aug 26, 2016 9:13 AM
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Can anyone tell wtf is happening in these action scenes?... Because it looks like a clusterfuck.
Aug 26, 2016 9:21 AM
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Wow now it's a showdown with Mozgus and his crew versus Guts
Aug 26, 2016 9:28 AM
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Well, that was certainly interesting. It'll be interesting to see what it is that the Skull Knight is taking on and if this will have any bearing on the battle between Guts and Mozgus's group of winged psychopaths (seriously, why do they have wings? what's going on there?).
Aug 26, 2016 9:53 AM
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Nina betrayed Casca as expected, she didn't even say where she was taken.
Aug 26, 2016 9:58 AM
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Oh yes finally !

The fight I've been waiting so long for ! It's here !

God that took ages, last few episodes..

Better not F it up ! Please ? ;D
Aug 26, 2016 10:52 AM
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best anime but anime is 3d :(
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Will they explain the thing skull knight is chasing?
Will they explain demon baby and other demon stuff?
Is anime loyal to manga so far?
May there be a 2. season?
I know that many people disliked the anime but I really liked it from the beginning and now its just heartbreaking to know that it'll be a 12 episode anime...
Just the ambiance and the darkness, it just instantly hooks me up....
Aug 26, 2016 11:13 AM
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Will they explain the thing skull knight is chasing?
Will they explain demon baby and other demon stuff?
Is anime loyal to manga so far?
May there be a 2. season?
I know that many people disliked the anime but I really liked it from the beginning and now its just heartbreaking to know that it'll be a 12 episode anime...
Just the ambiance and the darkness, it just instantly hooks me up....


You are in a dire need of reading the manga,from start to finish,which is still ongoing though.
Aug 26, 2016 11:52 AM

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It's so clear that the studio is learning and progressing with each episode. Rocky start indeed, but barring some small and annoying faults they're producing some solid episodes. I'm genuinely starting to get some Berserk-y vibes. Can't wait for the next episode!

Also, Skull Knight is the best knight.
Aug 26, 2016 12:27 PM
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It's so clear that the studio is learning and progressing with each episode. Rocky start indeed, but barring some small and annoying faults they're producing some solid episodes. I'm genuinely starting to get some Berserk-y vibes. Can't wait for the next episode!

Also, Skull Knight is the best knight.


Yes there are signs of improvement by the work the studio is doing. Either that or we've made our peace and gotten used to the weird animation style. Having said, using Susumu Hirasawa's music like that has the tendency to make everything look better than it is.

I do think from the comments from non manga readers that they could have done a better job with the story to make it clearer to them. A lot of stuff we manga readers just take for granted.
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Aug 26, 2016 12:55 PM

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@Farabeuf: True, the music did make it better. At least they know how to make good use of it.

I don't know what to think of these comments, really. It's been years since I binge-read through this part of the manga, and I hardly remember the details. I don't see why anyone should be confused about the Skull Knight if they've watched the third movie. I suppose the Kushan and the Apostles might seem to have appeared from nowhere, but wasn't that how it happened in the manga? The world is going to shit, that's all one needs to know. Berserk is chaos.
Aug 26, 2016 1:09 PM

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Can anyone tell wtf is happening in these action scenes?... Because it looks like a clusterfuck.


I noticed this as well during this episode. The fight scene at the end was way too consufing. Terrible framing.

One more thing, can someone explain to me what the hell happened when Mozgus was hit by that big eyed demon, he was screaming, then screaming some more, fell down, everyone was attacked by tentacles, and the next time we see him he shoots FIRE in that spiral staircase?

I just......like...HOW? And what is up with this sound design, the two screams don't even match the visuals
Aug 26, 2016 1:15 PM

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OMG the action, the tension, this anime is so good.

If I read the manga will I know more background info of the reaper on the horse?

Sucks the rating is so low due cgi whiners.
Aug 26, 2016 1:22 PM
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OMG the action, the tension, this anime is so good.

If I read the manga will I know more background info of the reaper on the horse?

Sucks the rating is so low due cgi whiners.


Read the whole thing from the beginning,cant get better version even if god himself make it as a series. And yes,you will get way more info for pretty much everything.
Aug 26, 2016 1:24 PM

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A tolerable episode, which I suppose Is improvement over the early episodes. Those were atrocious.
Aug 26, 2016 1:25 PM

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The art was pretty on point on some scenes.

As for the animation, same as always

I haven't read the manga and only watched the anime series and movies so,
I don't know what was really going on with all these demons appearing

decent episode
"Because people don't have wings.. We look for ways to fly."
Aug 26, 2016 1:33 PM
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Damn that cliffhanger and damn Nina.
Aug 26, 2016 1:38 PM
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The art was pretty on point on some scenes.

As for the animation, same as always

I haven't read the manga and only watched the anime series and movies so,
I don't know what was really going on with all these demons appearing

decent episode


As far as I remmeber from the movies, the silver haired guy turned into one of the last of 5 persons for the god hand, guts and his troup were teleportet to eclipse (this demon world thingy) where everyone got massacred except him and casca, casca got raped by the silver haired guy and skull knight saved them, now they are both marked and get hunted by demons at every opportunity, but casca gets protected by her creepy demon baby thing. That should hopefully clear a bit up, dunno how that went in the manga.
Aug 26, 2016 2:06 PM

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God, people are still watching this?

I'm done. Another lame Berserk adaptation. And it's sad it's gotten to a point where when people say 4C's animation was better, I actually agree.

This series got me defending Studio 4C's Berserk.

I want to die.

They're almost finished with the Conviction arc in less than 10 episodes... I can only imagine how much worse and abridged it's going to get. Holy crap. They'll probably cram the rest of it in the next 3 episodes, watch, then fail at doing the next arc for the second half before it's inexplicably cut off, and teased for a sequel. Good luck with that notion, novices. Not at this rate.
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Aug 26, 2016 2:12 PM
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So is it going 2d? Because the sheer amount of 2d this episode tells me either they are responding to peoples opinion on the art style or they see it as cost saving because it was only during idle or low animation moments but every time I see the intro I rather it had been in 2d because the 3d isn't really adding anything. So you got all the awkwardness without any large benefit. I'm still watching it on day of release cuz, WOO BERSERK! but i really do hope they transition into 2d if this episode is any indication.
Aug 26, 2016 2:32 PM

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That moment when Guts punched the wall to get Farnese tell him where Casca was awesome. I can safely say now that I'm enjoying this adaptation, it took a while to get going but now that it's adapting the manga quite faithfully it's been fun. The soundtrack's also quite good, one in particular reminds me of Baccano.

Anyways, still no words on how many episodes it has? Will it be a single cour?
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Aug 26, 2016 3:36 PM
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the skull night was mentioned by the princess in the third golden age movie when they were trying to rescue Griffith .. the king of an old kingdom with the symbol of a flower, get obsessed by power until God sends 4 angels to him ... maybe his story is no different than Guts's and i believe sometimes when reading a story you dont need to understand the entire background of a character .. but surely at the right time we will know him more.

anyway, the episode was amazing .. the fights and movements sounds are well done ! hope people will change their bad ratings because berserk 2016 is definitely not a 6/10 anime and the only bad thing about the animation is using the f***ing lines so much xd !!
Aug 26, 2016 4:02 PM

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the skull night was mentioned by the princess in the third golden age movie when they were trying to rescue Griffith .. the king of an old kingdom with the symbol of a flower, get obsessed by power until God sends 4 angels to him ... maybe his story is no different than Guts's and i believe sometimes when reading a story you dont need to understand the entire background of a character .. but surely at the right time we will know him more.

anyway, the episode was amazing .. the fights and movements sounds are well done ! hope people will change their bad ratings because berserk 2016 is definitely not a 6/10 anime and the only bad thing about the animation is using the f***ing lines so much xd !!

Yeah, even Flora says that Guts is following the same path of Skull Knight when she meets with SK again.

SK is over 1k years old since he was there for Void's birth and his eclipse.

Little is known about SK other than that he had a similar fate as Guts in the past. He wasn't a regular knight as Guts, but Emperor of all Midland, known as Emperor Gaiseric. That's the main difference I believe. The rest must be pretty much the same, being betrayed by a friend, surviving an eclipse and stuff like that.


About the episode: GREAT AS USUAL. I'm having a blast watching it every friday. AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Aug 26, 2016 5:02 PM

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Those hideous idiots have white wings, lol. How much I want to see them getting butchered by Guts.


Aug 26, 2016 5:29 PM

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At this point it's hard to say how I feel about this series. It's no longer so bad that it's worth nitpicking over, nor has the improvement been intense enough to cause a 180 flip of opinion. It's middle of the road, which honestly just makes it pretty forgettable.

Unless the climax of this series is amazingly well adapted I don't think many of us will be rewatching this once the year's out.
Aug 26, 2016 5:38 PM

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Always great seeing the Skull Knight making a return.

That last scene was actually pretty exciting. Loved Guts's headbutt!
Aug 26, 2016 5:43 PM

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One more thing, can someone explain to me what the hell happened when Mozgus was hit by that big eyed demon, he was screaming, then screaming some more, fell down, everyone was attacked by tentacles, and the next time we see him he shoots FIRE in that spiral staircase?

I just......like...HOW? And what is up with this sound design, the two screams don't even match the visuals

The one eyed demon is another apostle. What he does to the priest and his group is pretty much turn them into mini apostles. Its similar to what happened with the pagan leader who had a goat on his head.
Aug 26, 2016 6:08 PM
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Milchy said:
I must have forgotten something or the series are really bad at explaining shit. Who the hell is that skull knight, where did he come from. How did Guts get Casca back, as far as I remember, the original berserk ended after that gore fest porn with him left alone in the middle of nowhere.


Skull Knight is a mysterious figure who is against the 4 demon gods. He helps Gutz once in a while. He used to be human once. He wore the Berserker armor before Gutz.

After the sacrifice of Band of the Hawk at the hand's of Griffith, Gutz is left mutilated and Casca's mind is broken. They are the only two survivors of the ordeal. Rickert, the youngest member of the Band was not present at the time. They stay with a blacksmith and Rickert to rest up. Gutz leaves Casca with them. He comes back to find that Casca had wandered off.
Aug 26, 2016 6:18 PM
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I like how they show how fucking heavy Guts' sword is.
Aug 26, 2016 6:42 PM
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This episode is great!

As for the whole skull knight thing, manga spoilers below

Aug 26, 2016 7:59 PM
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I was initially pretty butthurt about the anime skipping the Blackswordsman arc + Lost children arc along with the CGI. But can't lie i've been enjoying this anime the past three or four episodes and it seems to be getting better (i hope).
Aug 26, 2016 8:10 PM

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Guts so close to rescuing Casca.
Just need to take out Mozgus & his followers.

Skull Knight rescuing Luca.
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Aug 26, 2016 8:14 PM

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Really enjoyed this episode..I'm so happy to see the beginning of the fight Guts vs Mozgus's henchmen animated.

Also Skull Knight hype! :D
Aug 26, 2016 9:16 PM

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Final boss time?

As much shit as this anime gets I'm really enjoying it.
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Aug 26, 2016 9:33 PM

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Milchy said:
I must have forgotten something or the series are really bad at explaining shit. Who the hell is that skull knight, where did he come from. How did Guts get Casca back, as far as I remember, the original berserk ended after that gore fest porn with him left alone in the middle of nowhere.

here you go


little is known about the skull knight. but he had apeared and rescued rickert from the demons at the camp as well as guts and casca.
Aug 26, 2016 9:40 PM

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The art was pretty on point on some scenes.

As for the animation, same as always

I haven't read the manga and only watched the anime series and movies so,
I don't know what was really going on with all these demons appearing

decent episode
skull knight eluded to it a little bit in this episode and will likely explain in the next. the tower of conviction is sitting on top of a huge huge grave. which makes it a hot spot for the supernatural. casca's presence there had awaken the spirits to the dead due to her brand and the spirits burst forth and began devouriong everyone in the area. it's like a boiling pot of supernatural and casca's brand had popped it when the got covered in the darkness, now it's completely out of control. A major event is now hapening that will change the world forever.
Aug 26, 2016 9:53 PM

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pretty weird seeing skull knight looking all metalic.

they really seemed ot have cut away all the horrible shit those spirits did...but then again there's still the next couple episodes. we probably arent done seeing the black shit spread throughout the tower. i havent read the old chapters in a very long time so i dont exactly remember the order of events with some of these.
Aug 27, 2016 12:41 AM
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Can anyone tell wtf is happening in these action scenes?... Because it looks like a clusterfuck.


Thats my only gripe with the anime too everything else is awesome.. but the moment fighting happens everything is like zoom in loud noises city
Aug 27, 2016 1:21 AM

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Oh man I really hope they don't mess up this huge ass fight with too much choppy CG, there's been no flow, I can't relate to any fight scenes in Berserk 2016 because of this. CG is amazing and can be used correctly and smoothly - character relation is everything. The frames in Berserk 2016 always try for 60fps but end up being little to 15-maxing out at 30 with movements. I really hope Shin Itagaki releases this was a mistake for him, knowing his record this was not the right decision...
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Aug 27, 2016 2:37 AM
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Can anyone tell wtf is happening in these action scenes?... Because it looks like a clusterfuck.


Yeah, thats the thing about this episode and series in general. Everything is rushed, though yes, this section of the anime fitted the manga pretty well... but pacing feels off, it doesn't give us the opportunity to "absorb" what is happening and what it means when compared to us reading the manga.
Aug 27, 2016 3:06 AM

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Nina is just a bitch she deserve to die and they turned into angels or some shit
Aug 27, 2016 3:16 AM

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This episode was the best! Like Goku arriving to fight the Saiyans. The next one will be even better!
It just keeps getting better. I love remembering the manga, i'm glad they're following it (kinda).
Hate the CGI ofc, but it's done now.
The OST is so good, Susumu Hirasawa never disappoints.
Did they change the ED theme into english? Cool touch.

These winged guys were "probably" inspiration for winged knights in dark souls 3.
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Aug 27, 2016 3:47 AM
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Zenrifith said:
Will they explain the thing skull knight is chasing?
Will they explain demon baby and other demon stuff?
Is anime loyal to manga so far?
May there be a 2. season?
I know that many people disliked the anime but I really liked it from the beginning and now its just heartbreaking to know that it'll be a 12 episode anime...
Just the ambiance and the darkness, it just instantly hooks me up....


You are in a dire need of reading the manga,from start to finish,which is still ongoing though.





what this mister is saying, exactly :)
Aug 27, 2016 3:48 AM
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Final boss time?

As much shit as this anime gets I'm really enjoying it.


Oh yes.. We have 6 days to brace ourselves !
Aug 27, 2016 3:50 AM
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-Abyss_Walker- said:
Can anyone tell wtf is happening in these action scenes?... Because it looks like a clusterfuck.


Thats my only gripe with the anime too everything else is awesome.. but the moment fighting happens everything is like zoom in loud noises city


My friend, it can't be worse. the fighting scenes.. At least I hope so..

But they still are able to capture important moments.. Plant an emotion.. I like it.
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