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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I always find the chemistry between Hisoka and Machi to have a weird fixation to it. Her rage is somehow really amusing to see. Spiders are starting to drop now...I wonder how Hisoka plans to hunt the rest of them down. |
Stark700Jun 9, 2016 3:17 AM
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| Even after reading the raw it didn't seem like there was some extreme condition after surviving that or a drawback which is a huge disappointment. The whole handling of this is really lame honestly, I don't mind him surviving the fight or both of them but the way he revives is just LOL. |
 "One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
| damn Hisoka can use bungee gum and texture surprise combo as his body parts now huh, cannot wait for the english scanlation since i cannot understand the korean scanlations lol |
| I know many are disappointed in the outcome of Hisoka and Chrollo battle. No wonder why. Two consecutive chapters are even entitled Disappointment, and it makes sense (lolz) I still can't process how he managed to revive from the explosion. I'll just reread it til I get the concept. It's good to have him back and now he's more relevant to the plot as he is now completely set on annihilating all the members of the troupe. I have this feeling that Hisoka will not stay alive for so long. |
 That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
DarkAngel035 said: I have this feeling that Hisoka will not stay alive for so long. I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
BigBoss said: DarkAngel035 said: I have this feeling that Hisoka will not stay alive for so long. I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead. he already dead lol |
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dark-chaos said: BigBoss said: I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead. he already dead lol Don't think we read the same chapter it seems. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
| This is the first time I gave a HxH chapter 1/5, it felt like this chapter was a fanfic smh Disappointment indeed. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
hisoka heart work because of his nen, so he already dead , if his nen stop then his heart will stop, so logically he have body without Soul , it's only his nen desire + his brain program works automatic that how i see things for know because hisoka character has changed a bit |
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dark-chaos said: BigBoss said: I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead. he already dead lol He survives. You could say that he died but not for long. BigBoss said: DarkAngel035 said: I have this feeling that Hisoka will not stay alive for so long. I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead. Yeah, coz he seems to be the fifth ranger of the four main characters. I know why you could say that because of what just happened which I consider an asspull. Part of me says he'll die soon when he's done hunting all of the members of the troupe and get another rematch with Chrollo then they'll have a tie, both will die in a much fairer match. Just a hunch, hahah |
| That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
dark-chaos said: hisoka heart work because of his nen, so he already dead , if his nen stop then his heart will stop, so logically he have body without Soul , it's only his nen desire + his brain program works automatic that how i see things for know because hisoka character has changed a bit But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean. @DarkAngel035 I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit "This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck". He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does" Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
BigBoss said: dark-chaos said: hisoka heart work because of his nen, so he already dead , if his nen stop then his heart will stop, so logically he have body without Soul , it's only his nen desire + his brain program works automatic that how i see things for know because hisoka character has changed a bit But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean. @DarkAngel035 I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit "This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck". He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does" Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me. as i said that how i see what happen by read Japanese spoiler it's can be wrong also if hisoke really back i think it's make more sense you can go and read that human body can still alive for hours after heart stop and there some people back to life after 2 hour this things happens even in real world so you can say hisoka fake his death and gain more power because he was about to death it's make sense and logically with hunter x hunter world and how nen works |
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| @dark-chaos I'm not really buying it, as he was "dead" for quite a while so it seems way too late for him to start the heart massage to bring himself back to life and it seems that the troupe members even checked his body to see if he is still alive before he used bungee gum to bring himself back to life after they left the hotel room. I would be ok with there being an extreme condition such as him being a walking corpse as you said with maybe some limited time period left to "live" but from that raw it didn't seem that way at all he seemed to literally brought himself back to life without any real consequences and just casually goes off and kills 2 troupe members like it was nothing, sure they didn't have their hatsus but cmon they are troupe members they should probably give him at least some sort of a challenge. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
BigBoss said: dark-chaos said: hisoka heart work because of his nen, so he already dead , if his nen stop then his heart will stop, so logically he have body without Soul , it's only his nen desire + his brain program works automatic that how i see things for know because hisoka character has changed a bit But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean. @DarkAngel035 I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit "This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck". He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does" Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me. I know, right? At first when I heard about the spoilers, I couldn't even bring myself to believe it even when I like Hisoka. The way he survived was not very convincing IMO. About Hisoka being a coward, I don't think he is. He seemed to understand after being revived that knowing Chrollo, you can not win against him in such unfair battle where everything is under Chrollo's condition so they could fight. I guess he prefers a fairer match (as previously shown when he learned that Chrollo could not use his nen). But I give my praise to Chrollo for all the preps prior to their match. It's consistent to his character(advanced thinker, cautios, and making sure that all will be to his advantage) and he's amazing in dominating the match. |
| That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
BigBoss said: @dark-chaos I'm not really buying it, as he was "dead" for quite a while so it seems way too late for him to start the heart massage to bring himself back to life and it seems that the troupe members even checked his body to see if he is still alive before he used bungee gum to bring himself back to life after they left the hotel room. I would be ok with there being an extreme condition such as him being a walking corpse as you said with maybe some limited time period left to "live" but from that raw it didn't seem that way at all he seemed to literally brought himself back to life without any real consequences and just casually goes off and kills 2 troupe members like it was nothing, sure they didn't have their hatsus but cmon they are troupe members they should probably give him at least some sort of a challenge. well i didn't try to change your mind i just give you my point why i accept this scenario no actually i like it, even i don't like hisoka, but i really like how togashi make something unexpected do you remember when the king survived the explosion , alot fans hate this and think it's waste of time, and who can kill the king now? , but finally it's result to make a beautiful end for the arc and the king what i mean i don't really care how hisoka back, I care about the result that his back will effect the story so i always try to be positive until i get the result and i really trust togashi that he will make things more enjoyable |
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DarkAngel035 said: BigBoss said: But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean. @DarkAngel035 I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit "This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck". He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does" Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me. I know, right? At first when I heard about the spoilers, I couldn't even bring myself to believe it even when I like Hisoka. The way he survived was not very convincing IMO. About Hisoka being a coward, I don't think he is. He seemed to understand after being revived that knowing Chrollo, you can not win against him in such unfair battle where everything is under Chrollo's condition so they could fight. I guess he prefers a fairer match (as previously shown when he learned that Chrollo could not use his nen). But I give my praise to Chrollo for all the preps prior to their match. It's consistent to his character(advanced thinker, cautios, and making sure that all will be to his advantage) and he's amazing in dominating the match. But that doesn't really make sense tho, if Hisoka wanted a "fair match" he would set the conditions before he agreed to help Chrollo get his nen back but he wanted to fight him at full power and even said that it was up to him to choose the place and even the time for the fight, even during the fight he "schwinged" about the way he fought so he wanted to deal with it the hard way so to say but it's pretty shitty if his rationale was "Well fuck I wanted to kill him full power but it turns out he is waaay stronger than I thought so fuck it lol I'll just cripple him little by little by killing his hommies and then fight him" like wtf? @dark-chaos EDIT- yep it literally seems that it is the case LOL, what a guy! and talk about an asspull didn't even have a drawback just casually coming back to life... |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
| mangastream scanlation is out btw and holy shit Shalnark and Kortopi died without even a good fight because their nen abilities are stolen by Chrollo |
| One of the worst manga chapters i've ever read. Oh well, what can you do after all. It would have been better if Togashi wouldn't have wasted 7 chapters on this bullshit. |
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j0x said: mangastream scanlation is out btw and holy shit Shalnark and Kortopi died without even a good fight because their nen abilities are stolen by Chrollo Which is also super weird as they should still have their nen but no hatsus right? didn't even put up a fight... what a chapter....... |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
BigBoss said: j0x said: mangastream scanlation is out btw and holy shit Shalnark and Kortopi died without even a good fight because their nen abilities are stolen by Chrollo Which is also super weird as they should still have their nen but no hatsus right? didn't even put up a fight... what a chapter....... ye but looks like Hisoka did not give them any chances or time anyway lol RIP to those 2 |
BigBoss said: DarkAngel035 said: I know, right? At first when I heard about the spoilers, I couldn't even bring myself to believe it even when I like Hisoka. The way he survived was not very convincing IMO. About Hisoka being a coward, I don't think he is. He seemed to understand after being revived that knowing Chrollo, you can not win against him in such unfair battle where everything is under Chrollo's condition so they could fight. I guess he prefers a fairer match (as previously shown when he learned that Chrollo could not use his nen). But I give my praise to Chrollo for all the preps prior to their match. It's consistent to his character(advanced thinker, cautios, and making sure that all will be to his advantage) and he's amazing in dominating the match. But that doesn't really make sense tho, if Hisoka wanted a "fair match" he would set the conditions before he agreed to help Chrollo get his nen back but he wanted to fight him at full power and even said that it was up to him to choose the place and even the time for the fight, even during the fight he "schwinged" about the way he fought so he wanted to deal with it the hard way so to say but it's pretty shitty if his rationale was "Well fuck I wanted to kill him full power but it turns out he is waaay stronger than I thought so fuck it lol I'll just cripple him little by little by killing his hommies and then fight him" like wtf? @dark-chaos EDIT- yep it literally seems that it is the case LOL, what a guy! and talk about an asspull didn't even have a drawback just casually coming back to life... Well yeah, Hisoka himself admits defeat from that statement alone. But note that he's still alive(lolz) so the battle between them isn't really over yet. In their fight in the Heaven's Arena, it's clear that Chrollo won that match and he accepts that. It was a match between the "prince of prep" and the "clown who specializes surprises" where the match was set in favor of the former and the former won because the latter clearly underestimated the former. |
| That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
DarkAngel035 said: BigBoss said: But that doesn't really make sense tho, if Hisoka wanted a "fair match" he would set the conditions before he agreed to help Chrollo get his nen back but he wanted to fight him at full power and even said that it was up to him to choose the place and even the time for the fight, even during the fight he "schwinged" about the way he fought so he wanted to deal with it the hard way so to say but it's pretty shitty if his rationale was "Well fuck I wanted to kill him full power but it turns out he is waaay stronger than I thought so fuck it lol I'll just cripple him little by little by killing his hommies and then fight him" like wtf? @dark-chaos EDIT- yep it literally seems that it is the case LOL, what a guy! and talk about an asspull didn't even have a drawback just casually coming back to life... Well yeah, Hisoka himself admits defeat from that statement alone. But note that he's still alive(lolz) so the battle between them isn't really over yet. In their fight in the Heaven's Arena, it's clear that Chrollo won that match and he accepts that. It was a match between the "prince of prep" and the "clown who specializes surprises" where the match was set in favor of the former and the former won because the latter clearly underestimated the former. Well the clown can sure pull out magic tricks alright, even out of the most unexpected place... don't think I need to type we all know what that place is. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
BigBoss said: j0x said: mangastream scanlation is out btw and holy shit Shalnark and Kortopi died without even a good fight because their nen abilities are stolen by Chrollo Which is also super weird as they should still have their nen but no hatsus right? didn't even put up a fight... what a chapter....... Yeah, too bad they didn't put up a good fight. I guess they were caught up off guard so they died pretty instantly having no chances to even fight back. The element of surprise will give you an edge. |
| That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
| So many Jojo references in this chapter, the whole pumping your heart after dead was like the end of part 3 and Hisoka's healing was the same as part 5. I would have liked it more if one of the two fighters died, but I guess that for now they have too much plot armor. Chrollo will immediatly find out about Hisoka, because the abilities of his two teammates will disappear from his book. |
| While "plot armor" criticism isn't unwarranted you do have to consider that Hisoka is disfigured, he basically uses his ability as prosthetics. It might have been an asspull but Hisoka is a fun character keep around for a while longer. |
| Really like the direction this has taken. Felt a bit ridiculous how Hisoka's binge gum can suddenly do all of these new things :/ |
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| Well well well....And people were wondering what else Hisoka's Nen had in store. HOLY F***N SHIT IT'S HAX!!! PLZ NERF LOL Revive from death and return hand, foot and face to normal. Also springing off like a spring. DAMN! Interesting to see Chrollo might probably be joining in on DC. Kurapika and Hisoka may just end up working together. Same goal. Hell Hisoka already took 2 down damn. Machi was <3 as usual :3 Can see lots of controversial reactions to this chp XD I wonder if Togashi is trolling with that disappointment title. It may actually be us he's talking about lol |
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| The way the fight concluded was really unexpected and I really think it should've ended differently. Although I love Hisoka as a character I truly believe that it would be better if Togashi killed him right there, during fight with Chrollo. The way it is right now, it looks ridiculously stupid how Hisoka can pretty much revive himself and even grow a fucking limbs. It just shows that losing an arm or leg is not a big deal anymore, really taking away emotions from the fights and making the whole experience less dramatic. |
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| Never thought Togashi would pull such a big ass pull like this... Idk what to say to this shit. Just because that pink clown is loved by some fans we get this... Oh and not to forget that 2 members of PT died off panel. For fuck sake? |
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Well I do kinda agree but we honestly don't know that much about her and how her relationship with Hisoka works. I feel like there's always been more to those 2. I can see this chp going down as one of the most controversial chps along with Gon vs Pitou and how fans reacted to that |
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| Good - Chrollo will go to the whale ship o_O Bad - Big asspull in Hisoka - Machi felt out of her character - Shalnark and Kortopi died instant - WTF Yep the title of the chapter says it all. Disappointment |
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Isterio said: I wanna be civil about this, I´ve started reading HxH recently I´m not caught up, but I read the chapters alongside the other Jump releases on Thursday. No offense to the dedicated fans, but how does this differ to the "bullshit" every popular Battle Shounen pullls?I just don´t know how HxH fans want to defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident. Don't know anything about defending it as Seinen with no plot armor but usually stuff like this comes with a price at least in HxH. Like Gon nen vow power up which was revelaed with Kurapika powering up and conditioning his abilities when he told them about it and Gon did "pay the price" for that vow and I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that Nanika was a convinient asspull, at least I think it is and from what I read about it. Sure it is revelaed that Nanika is from the DC but still, convinient asspull. This one seems just like a plain old asspull that I guess ppl weren't expecting fron HxH, I know I didn't. Hisoka didn't really pay any price, it doesn't have any kind of drawback he just came back to life, recreated his limbs with bungee gum because why the fuck not? and casually kills off 2 troupe members. Thw whole thing is just........ at loss of words honestly. |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
| This was just bad... - underwhelming conclusion for such a long fight between two important characters. - Hisoka's reason for survival, while not necessarily illogical, felt a little cheap. - Machi's angry face looked more comical than serious in my opinion. - Two of the spiders killed off-panel without even putting up a fight, lame. + It's implied there's a new Troupe member. |
| To me it seems that Hisoka truly died, but the thing he tried out before he bit the dust was to use his nen and bungee gum to protect his heart and main organs and somehow revived himself by starting it again with his powers that were even stronger after death. Though he wasn't sure how it'd would work. He admits it was his defeat and I believe he admits that he overestimated his own powers to be able to cope with Chrollo and the nen puppets. Now I feel he is just seeking a rematch with Chrollo and killing the troupes to gain that rematch. He just satisfying his bloodlust. I think Hisoka still is injured, i'm still unsure if he still needs to be healed in some way and that his bungee gum and texture surprise is just temporary until he is healed. He can't beat Chrollo as it is or the stronger Troupe members until he is healed or i could be wrong. I believe his limbs appear good as new but he still needs it to be healed. Togashi is a troll with that title XD. Disappointment, disappointing the fans believing that Hisoka (and maybe Chrollo) would die, only for both to survive. As for the two troupes he killed, Kortopi is the weakest as was implied/stated in the Yorknew City Arc, he is useful to the Troupe because of his specialist ability. We never see him in combat and he is usually protected by the boss or with a protector like Nobunaga for example. So he'd have no chance against Hisoka. As for Shalnark, his physical strength is far below Hisoka without his power, and the shock of holding Kortopi's head caught him off-guard, so I guess he was unlucky. Shalnark with his power would have given Hisoka a better fight, maybe even beating him, we'll never know. Has anyone noticed how in the yorknew city arc 5 of the troupe were prophesied to die by Kurapika's hands. The hunt for the phantom troupe is on, pathing to the New World (wrong manga). |
Theusis3Jun 9, 2016 5:54 AM
| The loneliest people are the kindest. The saddest people smile the brightest. The most damaged people are the wisest. All because they don't wish to see anyone else suffer the way they did. |
| Damn I now remember that doujinshi where Hisoka Raped Machi :D :D It makes sense now, well he did not kill her ;P He killed Sharlnak and Kortopi , it's due to their abilities he lost against Chrollo. Hisoka Have a plan ; Chrollo is going to the dark continent....Hisoka might Allie with Kurapika again this should be interesting |
Isterio said: I wanna be civil about this, I´ve started reading HxH recently I´m not caught up, but I read the chapters alongside the other Jump releases on Thursday. No offense to the dedicated fans, but how does this differ to the "bullshit" every popular Battle Shounen pullls?I just don´t know how HxH fans want to defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident. I'll try, hahah. No worries, you can critic as much as you want with anything, HxH included. I also hope no one gets offended by it. First off, HxH is not a Seinen. It's a Shonen manga that aims to attract the younger audiences, especially the younger male ones. About the bullshit you're implying, the Gon incident where Alluka only got introduced because it was needed that time for Gon's plot armor, and it's the biggest asspull I do believe when I heard about her saving Gon from despair. But the story managed to reason that out by confirming that Nanika came from the Dark Continent where so many unexplained things are yet to be explored. Now about Hisoka reviving from his fight against Chrollo, it wasn't that far fetched from how HxH and nen works. It was explained that Hisoka protected his organs by his nen and nen is something that dwells within. His nen, the bungee gum, managed to revive him from obliteration and death commanding his nen that should he die or stop from breathing, let it soothe and revive his organs back. All nen is after all connected to how great your resolve and your will to survive. I still haven't read the full English scanlation of the recent chapter yet so I'm still not quite sure. But I'll give it a benefit of the doubt that somehow the chapter gives a better explanation regarding this. I know I should not jump to conclusion that when something I haven't fully understand yet should be called an asspull. Though at this moment, I do felt like it's an asspull. I won't say that HxH has no plot armor but at least this manga presented a more reasonable excuses to cover up this plot armor usage. |
| That feeling when you feel you know the feeling of not feeling any feel at all. Get the feeling? |
| I guess I didn't see this as much of an asspull because 1) we know about Nen after death and 2) there was a precedent: Gon and his fight with Pitou. Didn't Hisoka just basically do the same thing Gon did? As in, he made a huge, last-resort contract with his Nen. At the same time, like other people in this thread have said, how come there was no sacrifice? Hisoka seems just fine(well, except for his missing limbs, now covered up); hell, Hisoka looks even stronger now. I'm surprised there was no consequence to his actions, like with Gon. All that being said, unpredictable outcome to the battle, as to be expected of Togashi. And Hisoka is so savage he managed to take out two Spiders right after coming back to life. Crazy shit. RIP Shalnark and Kortopi. We barely even knew anything about Kortopi. lol Shalnark may have been able to put up more of a fight had Chrollo not taken his ability, but it is what it is. And just like that, Togashi connects this otherwise out-of-nowhere fight to the Dark Continent arc, since the troupe(or what's left of them) is heading to the ship. This arc is going to be insane. And now that Hisoka is targeting the troupe one-by-one, I can see this pissing off Kurapika, since Kurapika's revenge is basically his reason for living. But hey, maybe they'll team up. I'm going to be sad if Hisoka kills Shizuku. She's too cute to die... :( Anyway, Chrollo won the battle, but it looks like Hisoka will win the war. |
| Lmao. Holy fuck this was the funniest HxH chapter I read. Can't even say if it was bad or good because of how hilarious I found it, and how unpredictable the revenge part was. So let me get this straight: > The dragged on fight ends with Hisoka's suffocation > Hisoka revives himself from the dead with some Nen nonsense that has no consequences and even fixes his ambulations. > Therefore rendering this whole encounter pointless, and it really is a fanservice fight > He randomly has a new motivation and goes all Kurapika for no real reason. > Kills 2 members already with complete ease. Well okay then. 1/5 or 5/5? |
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