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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This was a great explanation episode about Valbanill and Lisa Oakwood situation that has even a direct link to Lisa herself. The grave part was very nice of Cecily/Aria/Luke to pay respects to Elsa and her father's death reminded me of the Jack scene with Cecily/Aria after they killed that fire demon. Loved the nice talk of Aria/Cecily on the edge of that cliff about Lisa. Find that the explanation of Valbanill is good in that it shows that the monster somehow spared Lisa Oakwoods' soul and gave her a second chance at the price of a condition (japanese is bad so not sure of that condition). Most surprised that Cecily is not stupid in this episode because she figured out that since Luke did not want Cecily in the conference she would talk to Lisa and find out what she needs....to only convince Luke of her truth and Siegfried to test the sword of Lisa (most surprised that it broke Siegfried's test sword).I find that Siegfried evil side is well shown with his many faces and wanting to kill Cecily/Luke at the end of episode from what I understood. His face is too obvious he is evil=>  |
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| Lisa created by Lisa 0.0 the ending is bout stopping Siegfried? I felt like yesterday i just started watching this series... |
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gloryfy said: Shocking revelations are shocking sometimes...aren't they? I still can't believe I watched this drunk....it was more fun.Lisa created by Lisa 0.0 the ending is bout stopping Siegfried? I felt like yesterday i just started watching this series... |
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| it's gonna end in the next ep right? my guess is-town fight,then cecily says"i'll protect this city forever"or something,then luke,lisa,aria,cecily smiling at the end... i hope it's not THAT cliche I actually like this series,but this ep was a bit confusing(they just dumped all the info),and I'm as shocked as Luke,lol |
| i didnt really notice in earlier episodes until now but did luke's fake eye always look like that? |
| Well it's setting up to the finale.. Kinda strange those old man and lady listening to Cecily's explanation like a grade schooler..but oh well.. I dunno..i don't really hate Siegfried..perhaps the build up for this antagonist is not enough, instead those old man in conference kinda annoyed me.. Oh well i hope the ending didn't really fall |
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Syllen said: i didnt really notice in earlier episodes until now but did luke's fake eye always look like that? Yessss. It was bothering me the whole anime. I always noticed that his eyes were different >_< |
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| Cecily made me LOL. |
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| Lisa sacrificed herself to protect Luke. In other words that other Lisa is kinda the same person, I guess. Just without memories and as a demon. |
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Syllen said: i didnt really notice in earlier episodes until now but did luke's fake eye always look like that? Yes actually. I noticed it for the first time two episode ago. Kind of weird they're packing almost the whole story into the last 3 episodes here. Season 2 maybe? It would be pretty lame/hard to wrap up the whole thing in just one more episode. I don't even really remember the first 6-8 because they had so little to do with the last 2 have discussed, lol. Laevantein said: Well it's setting up to the finale.. Kinda strange those old man and lady listening to Cecily's explanation like a grade schooler..but oh well.. I dunno..i don't really hate Siegfried..perhaps the build up for this antagonist is not enough, instead those old man in conference kinda annoyed me.. Oh well i hope the ending didn't really fall I thought the whole conference thing was bizzare. It was nice Ceily wasn't retarded for once. But she really needs to learn to reel in her anger. She's a knight, isn't she? She should know you don't talk to politician's like that. The old man didn't annoy me, but I thought it was weird and out of place for those kind of jokes. I agree with you on the Siegfried, I have no reason to hate or dislike him really. It's more like "Oh hey, guess he's the bad guy heh? Oh okay". We've seen very little of him, he's done very little "evil" that any of us would really care about. Your right, they should've built him up more to be despicable. |
| Wow. Cecily really proved herself in this episode and kicked everyone's ass in more ways than one. I'm actually very happy, I feel like she stole Luke's thunder in this episode, and rightly so since he kept telling her to get out everytime she spoke up. Now everything's out in the open and atleast we know who the bad guys are now, but I wonder about the "man in black", we still don't have a decent synopsis on him yet and this show is almost over, I'm glad for Luke's past being unearthed but what about our villians? o_O; Oh yeah, and Lisa's giant tears were epic, all big and wide. |
| I thought the man in black is Siegfried. :P |
| Hmm. It would have been nice if they hadn't saved all this plot shit for the last 2 episodes. But whatever. |
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| It was a ok episode, the first part of the meeting was annoying, every time some says something, Cecily would yell something twice as long. =.= Until I learned that Lisa was a demon, I thought Lisa was a Demon Sword that is a hammer (the endng song gave me that impression) >.< |
| Revelations and Cecily being annoying when trying to defend Luke. I agree with main bad guy about love being all joke. Burn in hell was lol. Seems all those men turned into demons. Also his motive is to revive vanbil? |
snowteddy said: Oh please no not that end, I would rather see them get after the Empire itself. For more second season figths.it's gonna end in the next ep right? my guess is-town fight,then cecily says"i'll protect this city forever"or something,then luke,lisa,aria,cecily smiling at the end... i hope it's not THAT cliche I actually like this series,but this ep was a bit confusing(they just dumped all the info),and I'm as shocked as Luke,lol Laevantein said: The old man annoys me too like I showed who he is in the pic. It's him I really did not like....his laugh is annoying!those old man in conference kinda annoyed me..l |
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| As surprising as the revelations were, the fact that Cecily was the one who put them together was the biggest surprise. Even though she's always been act first, think later (or never), I can buy her explanation since she is similar in many ways to Lisa version 1.0. And they do make sense. Still, all this feels rather rushed and I continue to wonder why they wasted so much time focusing on stupid stuff earlier in the series. |
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| I knew he had something in the eye but i didn't think it was actually something. i taught that they simply made him that way and that's it... but no, it has a reason. that's cool. and i loved the end, lol, the guy is evil :D |
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| i knew it~ the last thing missing left to make the holy sword is love x-x |
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| Great episode! Cecily.. stepped up in this one and you know what? I thought she might let her tongue slip and say that she liked Luke in a romantic way! LOL That would make me laugh my ass off til next week episode. She must of found out the truth from Lisa 2.0 and realized that he was a good guy underneath all the stupid stuff and poor decisions he made. Anyway, can't wait til next week... *wonders if we get a confession between Cecily and Luke?* HEHE --- Randy |
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| hooray!! a great episode!! They should have focused on this story line from the beginning and not have had pointless episodes and pointless characters. where are my Luke x Cecily moments hmm? |
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| BUT WHAT YOU SAY THAT WILL FINISH in 12 épisodes ?! It's a Light Novel ! A light Novel ! So, if the anime is "good", we will have a second season like ZnT, Wolf and Spice and others things ! So for me, it's not the end of the anime, not the end of the Light Novels too. <_< It's just like the "beginning" for me. Like a "important" plot settled with the first season ! (if we have a second) |
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Naruleach said: Thinking about couple fights more than the Luke x Cecily but they cute when they fight...yes?where are my Luke x Cecily moments hmm? |
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| Decent, no boob jokes in this one (either that or my brain is programmed to forget them by now). But honestly, why dump this on the second-to last episode? Pretty meh. |
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| Awful episode. It spammed endless amount of information within a short amount of time. Also, whatever "mystery" Siegfried had in the previous episodes just vanished into thin air, and without further ado, the final battle suddenly appears in front to us. Would have been a much better anime had they actually cut back on the boob jokes, the annoying Charlotte parts (I mean, how difficult was it to compress that part into 1 epi? Not that difficult if you ask me) and actually made the "mysterious" cloaked man more mysterious. Seriously poor planning. Sums up the 90% of the anime this season. Trash. |
| I keep thinking that the love thing will defeat the demons, also the pact of Luke was another thing...you can make one by having another human and something of a body part to make a contract? That was interesting to understand but then why the father of Luke too? |
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| how many perverted old men does a council need? and that siegfried guy got owned, hahaha, he didn't think luke's sword wouldn't break, too bad for him! unfortunately now his henchmen have invaded in several monstrous forms |
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| God , Cecily talks so much , i rather have Luke talk than Cecily talk. Ending must be Luke fighting with the Holy sword and ofcourse Cecliy accompanying him. Lookinf forward to Luke fighting , wanted more of Luke fights but the anime failed to provide it.:( -Risa- said: Syllen said: i didnt really notice in earlier episodes until now but did luke's fake eye always look like that? Yessss. It was bothering me the whole anime. I always noticed that his eyes were different >_< Noticed that from the very beginning , i thought it was a defect in animation :P toratiger said: Thats one of the reason why i dont really hate her , atleast she knows what she really is..have you noticed that in every episode, cecily would call herself "stupid" or "useless" atleast once? not that i disagree with her, just saying. orangehouse said: i knew it~ the last thing missing left to make the holy sword is love x-x Clue given : the demon swords were made from hatred..:p |
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| Smells like second season :/ |
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Kleeyook said: I thought the man in black is Siegfried. :P Obvious thing are obvious since the start of the serie. |
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| 2 points down. Cecily was fucking annoying. At the start all the way through the end. |
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| Horrible episode is horrible |
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| ...this show is trying too hard to redeem itself. If this was a 3 episode OVA of sorts, cutting out all the crap and excessive boob jokes, this might have been a decent show. =/ |
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A2ZOMG said: ...this show is trying too hard to redeem itself. If this was a 3 episode OVA of sorts, cutting out all the crap and excessive boob jokes, this might have been a decent show. =/  breast armour should look like this =P |
| An okay episode and a lot of things were found out as well. Though it mostly consisted of talking, there were some good parts. Lol at Seigfried being unable to break Luke's katana, and seems that due to that he became even more evil at the end of the series. Though I'm more curious as to how they will end the series in the next episode . . . |
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| Hahahah Elsa's father's grave, written upon it: "Elsa's Father" Ahahah~ ........ Oh well, I suppose they didn't know the guy's name? ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Why does Cecily snap at things that doesn't actually concern her? ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ She's damn annoying, couldn't she just.. Like.. She could've at least stayed out of the conversation ಠ_ಠ OBJECTION! (͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Oh sorry that was my Phoenix Wright-reflexes kicking in (◕ ◡ ◕;) Cecily... Wth are you doing? You were asked to leave.. And yet you go back in there? ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Cecily you stupid, stupid girl. You made Luke frantic. Shame on you. ಠ_ಠ Although that's one heck of a top-notch quality katana Luke's made ⊂( ﾟヮﾟ)⊃ And then Siegfried says something insightful on the subject 'love' ◕ ◡ ◕ Loldemons attacking town. Shitcrap is too predictable so far ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Redeeming feature in this show: Luke, he's cool. Except when he lost his cool, thanks to.. Guess who? Cecily, the dumb broad. ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ francismeunier said: Ok that guard of Siegfried finally appears with his big axe to protect him [...] I wonder if he is a wizard other than Siegfried's personal guard.... "his" big axe? Wth are you on about? It's a she, not a he. ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ francismeunier said: I found myself emotional at Lisa's crying here And.. You serious? I found that scene gravely annoying. ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ |
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| I think that Siegfried's guard is actually his demon sword, no? And finally, Cecily gets smarter, although there was awkward silence after she finished her speech (I noticed). Is it me or Cecily does look like Minori from Toradora? :o |
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Gilliene said: Is it me or Cecily does look like Minori from Toradora? :o She does D: A little. |
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Oosran said: francismeunier said: Ok that guard of Siegfried finally appears with his big axe to protect him [...] I wonder if he is a wizard other than Siegfried's personal guard.... "his" big axe? Wth are you on about? It's a she, not a he. ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Z wut? That looks like a guy....I swear! francismeunier said: I found myself emotional at Lisa's crying here Oosran said: Hey we all react differently!And.. You serious? I found that scene gravely annoying. ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Gilliene said: NO! You will know soon enough. I think that Siegfried's guard is actually his demon sword, no? |
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francismeunier said: It is a her, period.Oosran said: Z wut? That looks like a guy....I swear!francismeunier said: "his" big axe? Wth are you on about? It's a she, not a he. ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶Ok that guard of Siegfried finally appears with his big axe to protect him [...] I wonder if he is a wizard other than Siegfried's personal guard.... francismeunier said: Yeah I know all of us react differently, but just look at that picture, and then say what you find cute with that. UghOosran said: Hey we all react differently!francismeunier said: And.. You serious? I found that scene gravely annoying. ┐(-｡ｰ')┌I found myself emotional at Lisa's crying here |
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| Luke. <333 That is all. |
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| Siegfried is evil in a cool way :D |
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Oosran said: Her innocent emotions being seen.francismeunier said: Yeah I know all of us react differently, but just look at that picture, and then say what you find cute with that. UghOosran said: Hey we all react differently!francismeunier said: And.. You serious? I found that scene gravely annoying. ┐(-｡ｰ')┌I found myself emotional at Lisa's crying here |
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