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Jun 13, 2015 11:29 AM
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Jun 20, 2015 8:24 AM
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EXCALIBURRRRRRRRRRRRRR



And Shirou actually gaining some ground against Gilgamesh in the Unlimited Blade Works. Interesting. In fact, he kicked some ass. Dat OST. Of course they would play that theme. I wouldn't think of any other theme they would use there.

Ohi Archer. That smile.
Jun 20, 2015 8:24 AM
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"Miura, it is penultimate episode. What do we do?
"We will give Shirou 5 minute monologue out of nowhere that had no build up at all!"
"But viewers kind of don't give a shit about Shirou since he is a blank slate and people don't have any connection to him, so why?"
"Eh Shirou is stupid anyway and we need to fill episode with something before he does a shonen-y lightning filled hotblooded speech and does UBW."
"But won't that feel like asspull since we never explained how UBW works"
"Visual storytelling, yo~!"
"So that's like 70% of episode, what else?"
"let's add some anime original bullshit content of Grail Titan! Visual Storytelling Yo!"
"Since we are going full on visual experience will we faithfully animate the fight scene with Shirou swordraining against GOB?"
"Nah we will just have him deflect all swords by hand because lol why not"
"You are genius Miura!"


Well this was rushed as all hell. Again.
Holy shit, the pacing issues with this show are only overshadowed piss poor choreography and immature direction approach targetting teenagers(lightning, shouting, screaming, short attention span focus for various scenes, explosions, etc).

If I had to describe this episode in one word, it would be: anti-climatic. Another word? Hollow
- Shirou's flashback was hollow and emotionless with no build up.
- The Casting of UBW was anticlimatic and rushed(HOW do you make the casting of UBW look BORING?).
- Cutting away to Saber by the grail was anticlimatic as all hell for SHirou fight.
- Saber destroying the grail and fading away was anticlimatic, rushed and lacked the punch it should have had.

That is the problem with the whole adaptation. They are just "covering" things as in a play, altering things for worse, rushing other things. No emotions, no tension, no visual cues or depth. Just things happening for no reason. Without context, without any sort complexity.

As it stands the adaptation is completely hollow and shallow emotionless. A visual fest lacking ingenuity in the usage of said visuals.

3/5 for emiya OST alone.


I hope you all enjoyed Fate Say Rin the show with Rin as main character and there's only one episode left of Main Character Mary Sue Rin and her dumb sidekick Shirou;.
Jun 20, 2015 8:24 AM
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An actual monologue, praise the gods.
Seihai-kun, cross explosion...we EVA now?
Finally, full ver. of EMIYA. And they did the fight right.



TRUE END CONFIRMED
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Jun 20, 2015 8:26 AM
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wow one the most hyped fight got butcherd hard, the point that shirou won was because UBW is faster but here he just deflect all swords by hand
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Jun 20, 2015 8:27 AM
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I like how they made Shirou kneel down at the end, because Shirou winning Gilgamesh would just be bullshit.
Jun 20, 2015 8:28 AM
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One of the better episodes, the duel was actually good(though the UBW casting was a bit rushed and....dull), all the remixes were nice to hear. Could've done without that last GOB bit with Shirou on the floor, the scream rage and Rho Aias surfing but otherwise really well handled, 4/5
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Dat VN music overload.
Dat awesome EMIYA usage. (finally fixed the audio mixing, eh ufo? better late than never, i guess)
Dat ridiculously badass Shirou.
Dat true ending.

Best episode in this adaptation so far.

10/10
Jun 20, 2015 8:28 AM
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Kuremisago said:
HEAD SHOT
Jun 20, 2015 8:30 AM

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So there is one more episode?
Jun 20, 2015 8:30 AM

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GradationAir said:
I like how they made Shirou kneel down at the end, because Shirou winning Gilgamesh would just be bullshit.


I literally laughed at that.

Cant have Ginger Idiot look good.

Holy Shit and to think there was time I could not wait ufo do the "epic space battle" between Gil and Shirou's swords....


The "HotBlooded Shonen Screams At Gil"(TM) were chuckle worthy too. Cements this adaptation as a parody of itself.
Jun 20, 2015 8:30 AM

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Yes, the Epilogue.
Jun 20, 2015 8:31 AM

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I got what I came for~<3<3<3<3<3
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Jun 20, 2015 8:31 AM

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This episode:

Jun 20, 2015 8:32 AM
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So did i rewatch the UBW movie? -_-
Tsk 3/5 for the soundtrack and animation
Jun 20, 2015 8:32 AM

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Although I agree with some of Fai's points,this episode was imo one of the best episodes in this anime,mainly because the content is just excellent.
EMIYA was great.
Archer though :(
Next week finale.
Jun 20, 2015 8:32 AM

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I liked it.

Twas good.
Jun 20, 2015 8:33 AM
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Salt Brigade aside.....I am liking what I'm hearing about this episode and I can't wait for the subs :D
Jun 20, 2015 8:33 AM

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HeroKenzan said:
Although I agree with some of Fai's points,this episode was imo one of the best episodes in this anime,mainly because the content is just excellent.
EMIYA was great.
Next week finale.


I am sorry this is not Episode 20 thread.

This was literally like Episode 21.
Jun 20, 2015 8:33 AM

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I hate how they made it look like Shirou lost the fight.
Jun 20, 2015 8:33 AM
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Where did you see it ? It's still not here on anilinkz... How long is it?
Jun 20, 2015 8:34 AM

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Onepieceuc1 said:
Where did you see it ? It's still not here on anilinkz... How long is it?


Livestream.
Standard ep length.



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mira-nyan said:
[img]http://i.4cdn.org/a/1434813850418.jpg[/ img]

I got what I came for~<3<3<3<3<3

We got dat smile, all is well ^^
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Jun 20, 2015 8:35 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
I hate how they made it look like Shirou lost the fight.


lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Jun 20, 2015 8:35 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
I hate how they made it look like Shirou lost the fight.


Nah, I already made peace with the fact that Miura sees Shirou as idiotic dense ginger shonen protagonist, so that was expected(at least they did not do some AO nonsense like having Saber rush in to finish Gil).

What I CAN'T get over is Grail Titan.
That thing is Latex Sakura level of stupid.
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Where did you see it ? It's still not here on anilinkz... How long is it?

Live stream from the Japanese channel. It's regular-length.
Jun 20, 2015 8:36 AM
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ok thanks !
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脚本:ufotable、
絵コンテ:三浦貴博、
演出:三浦貴博・竹内將、
作画監督:田畑壽之・須藤友徳・青木拓也

http://www.fate-sn.com/story/26.html
Miura cometh



Jun 20, 2015 8:37 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
I hate how they made it look like Shirou lost the fight.


Only thing that bugged me,but eh.

Can't make Gil look bad,Nasu's orders
Jun 20, 2015 8:42 AM

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So the grail was an angel the entire time.....
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Jun 20, 2015 8:43 AM

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脚本:ufotable、
絵コンテ:三浦貴博、
演出:三浦貴博・竹内將、
作画監督:田畑壽之・須藤友徳・青木拓也

http://www.fate-sn.com/story/26.html
Miura cometh

Miura directing a mellow episode? It's going to be a good Miura episode then.
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Mickdrew said:
Stark700 said:



So the grail was an angel the entire time.....


"Its a gate to hell don't you know" according to certain overly annoying youtuber.
Jun 20, 2015 8:45 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Mickdrew said:


So the grail was an angel the entire time.....


"Its a gate to hell don't you know" according to certain overly annoying youtuber.

Chibi?
Jun 20, 2015 8:45 AM

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Mickdrew said:
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So the grail was an angel the entire time.....
No, it was a fiber (those who watched KLK will understand).
Jun 20, 2015 8:47 AM
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GradationAir said:
Raziel1991 said:
I hate how they made it look like Shirou lost the fight.


lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the hardcore purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD
Jun 20, 2015 8:48 AM

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Tokoya said:
GradationAir said:


lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD


Well they're retards who thinks Shirou is actually smart when he is one of the dumbest protagonists to walk on the face of the earth.
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Tokoya said:
GradationAir said:


lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD


this guy is being sarcastic btw and is a part of your so called "salt" brigade...just saying
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Tokoya said:
GradationAir said:


lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD

he's trolling/sarcastic and you took it seriously
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Jun 20, 2015 8:56 AM
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laidellent said:
Tokoya said:
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD


this guy is being sarcastic btw and is a part of your so called "salt" brigade...just saying
>implying that I agree with him that Shirou is a retard

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Tokoya said:
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD

he's trolling/sarcastic and you took it seriously
eksdee
Going by the general concensus of everyone else that actually isn't biased towards the VN, him being sarcastic or not doesn't take anything away from the fact that this episode was really good so yeahhhhhhh :)
Jun 20, 2015 8:59 AM

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Tokoya said:
Going by the general concensus of everyone else that actually isn't biased towards the VN, him being sarcastic or not doesn't take anything away from the fact that this episode was really good so yeahhhhhhh :)


I beg to differ. They made Shirou look too good, I felt like it's completely bullshit even if he lost at the end. Not to mention he got saved again by another asspull.

And please don't listen to those people, they don't know what they're talking about.
Jun 20, 2015 9:03 AM

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I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.
Jun 20, 2015 9:04 AM

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Gov said:
I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.


Amen
Jun 20, 2015 9:06 AM
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GradationAir said:
Tokoya said:
Going by the general concensus of everyone else that actually isn't biased towards the VN, him being sarcastic or not doesn't take anything away from the fact that this episode was really good so yeahhhhhhh :)


I beg to differ. They made Shirou look too good, I felt like it's completely bullshit even if he lost at the end. Not to mention he got saved again by another asspull.

And please don't listen to those people, they don't know what they're talking about.
I'll be sure to let you know my thoughts on the matter once I watch the episode but generally I disagree with most of you guys' "conplaints" so I doubt that it's that bad
Jun 20, 2015 9:08 AM
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Gov said:
I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.
I doubt it...Considering the fight that goes down in this episode as well as the return of a smiling GARcher
Jun 20, 2015 9:24 AM
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Just wondering, what is this "Deflecting swords by hands" instead of "Sword Clash" you guys are talking about?

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Just wondering, what is this "Deflecting swords by hands" instead of "Sword Clash" you guys are talking about?


DEENING.

Shirou bashing away gil's swords with swords in his hands instead of matching them by swordraining the same ones to cancel them out.

The funny thing is that he does it like once or twice at the start and then NOPE LETS SURF ON RHO AIUS.
Jun 20, 2015 9:44 AM

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Hell yeah ! Been waiting for this moment, Shirou beats the crap out of that loli killer while Emiya's theme is playing, it'd be even better if they had done more melee fighting scenes. Great ending, all that left is an epilogue episode.
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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Just wondering, what is this "Deflecting swords by hands" instead of "Sword Clash" you guys are talking about?


DEENING.

Shirou bashing away gil's swords with swords in his hands instead of matching them by swordraining the same ones to cancel them out.

The funny thing is that he does it like once or twice at the start and then NOPE LETS SURF ON RHO AIUS.


Oh well it could have been worse..............like Seiba finishing shit instead of ginger boy.

Unlimited MiuraSFX Works is finally going to end at least.

Btw is True End really confirmed or Miura is just going to troll everyone with GE or Miura Special End?

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Good episode.
Saber's Excalibur was cool.
Unknown to death Archer had a nice come back.
And the fight between Archer and Shirou ws good.
I wonder how the epilogue will be.
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Gov said:
I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.


fate zero fans will probably be flipping
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