What did you think of this episode?
5Loved it!
52.9%
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4Liked it!
26.2%
58
3It was OK
13.6%
30
2Disliked it
5.0%
11
1Hated it
2.3%
5
Average 4.2
221 votes
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Not really impressed with this new Phantom/ Renji. Best to just wait and see how this all pans out though. I sitll think this little girl is going to be an anoying character. |
| He's truly becoming unconscious in the evil way. He still calls Ein "Eren". The intermission has Cal. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| IS it me or he kind of looks differnt? |
| LET JUSTICE BE DONE; THOUGH THE HEAVENS MAY FALL |
| Yes, I'm waiting for a subbed version too. The Funimation video portal is down AGAIN(!) so relying on their "legal" service has become a complete waste of time. |
| No subs as of yet... it's been a few days, but Funi's still down and no fansubs seem to have surfaced. The new Reiji I can only describe as Pimp!Zwei. As with the end of the last episode, he's got a suit, a pink shirt, hip-hop theme music, and even a seemingly subservient woman. Somehow, I just expect that he's going to be dumping Claudia, though. Also, we finally meet Cal! I didn't catch the deal with her sister Judy, but for whatever reason Zwei seems to have her in. However... am I imagining things, or was that a glimpse of Ein in 13:50? Wish I could remember more about the gun types to verify the possibility, but it seems likely. Overall, not the best episode (though a fairly awesome opening) but hopefully with the introduction of Cal we'll see some more great Phantom in the future. |
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| ME THE ENDING SONG IS SUGOI AND MY FAMILIES DEAD FOR NOW BUT IM HAPPY ABOUT IT |
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| Hey Funi's site is up... but only has Phantom episodes up to number 9... Fail. |
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Pash said: Hey Funi's site is up... but only has Phantom episodes up to number 9... Fail. I noticed. What the heck has Funi been doing all this time? So much for "within 24 hours of Japanese broadcast." I always thought that if they could clean up their sub quality they could have some serious potential in someday providing an international legal alternative to fansubbing, but this is VERY disappointing. |
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| I think it's funny episode 10 is not up. They had it up at one point, all the "thieves" had already gotten it from the leak. What's the point of taking it down? |
| To add insult to injury, Funimation has now decided to include a region blocker for the video streams so, as I'm resident in the UK, I can no longer watch Phantom or indeed any other show on their site (although as others have already pointed out they have not updated the new shows for a while now). And they wonder why fansubs are so popular with internet Anime fans.... |
nx6 said: I think it's funny episode 10 is not up. They had it up at one point, all the "thieves" had already gotten it from the leak. What's the point of taking it down? You're right! Didn't even think of that... and it really shouldn't be an issue now that ep. 10 has long finished broadcasting. It was subtitled and everything... so why? Naschy said: any1 no where i can see the sub much appreciated! In case you weren't paying any attention to the comments and haven't bothered to do a simple check on TokyoTosho, there are none available at the moment. |
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ManInBlack said: To add insult to injury, Funimation has now decided to include a region blocker for the video streams so, as I'm resident in the UK, I can no longer watch Phantom or indeed any other show on their site (although as others have already pointed out they have not updated the new shows for a while now). I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Like you said they haven't updated the shows for two weeks now. The site is "down for maintenence" so often now when I go to check it's probably offline more than it's up now. Since nothing is ever any different after these "maintenance outages" the site is rather useless now. |
nx6 said: I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Like you said they haven't updated the shows for two weeks now. The site is "down for maintenence" so often now when I go to check it's probably offline more than it's up now. Since nothing is ever any different after these "maintenance outages" the site is rather useless now. True, but they still keep sending C&D letters to fansubbers and their servers. If you live outside North America (I'm not sure if they block Canada or not) and want English subtitles, this is basically like being flipped off and told that anime is only for Americans and Japanese. Now, had they left it without a region blocker they could at least argue that they were making subtitles accessible to the English-speaking world, thus providing some sort of justification for the C&D demands. In the end, however, they have decided to restrict access, nullifying this claim. Stupid move on their part, too, as far as I can tell. They could probably set up markets in places like the UK with relatively little investment seeing as they're already making English-language products. They'd need licenses and a factory for Region 2 DVDs, and that's probably just about all. |
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mr_utopia_man said: True, but they still keep sending C&D letters to fansubbers and their servers. If you live outside North America (I'm not sure if they block Canada or not) and want English subtitles, this is basically like being flipped off and told that anime is only for Americans and Japanese. If you live in an area you can't view the streams, I would imagine it is because you live where Funimation does not own the licensing rights to the series in your country. However, this also means they do not have the legal standing to make C&D demands or sue people, as they do not have any legal backing for controlling distribution in your area. IANAL, but this is logical advice, and it's how Underwater operates. |
nx6 said: If you live in an area you can't view the streams, I would imagine it is because you live where Funimation does not own the licensing rights to the series in your country. However, this also means they do not have the legal standing to make C&D demands or sue people, as they do not have any legal backing for controlling distribution in your area. IANAL, but this is logical advice, and it's how Underwater operates. But that's exactly it, they don't own the rights outside of North America. However, they still send C&D letters to English fansubbers who may operate outside of the US, and they still threaten legal action against servers hosting fansubbed content. They don't necessarily have to own the copyrights in foreign regions, they just have to have an intimidating team of lawyers who can pull off a convincing enough threat. |
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| Still waiting for the sub. Argh... |
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| Mattaku... I'm starting to have withdrawals... two weeks without Phantom! :( But seriously, so many groups released an episode or two recently, where are they now?! :| |
mr_utopia_man said: True, but they still keep sending C&D letters to fansubbers and their servers. If you live outside North America (I'm not sure if they block Canada or not) and want English subtitles, this is basically like being flipped off and told that anime is only for Americans and Japanese. Now, had they left it without a region blocker they could at least argue that they were making subtitles accessible to the English-speaking world, thus providing some sort of justification for the C&D demands. In the end, however, they have decided to restrict access, nullifying this claim. Stupid move on their part, too, as far as I can tell. They could probably set up markets in places like the UK with relatively little investment seeing as they're already making English-language products. They'd need licenses and a factory for Region 2 DVDs, and that's probably just about all. Funimation titles are available in the UK but through third party distributors - i.e: Manga, MVM, Beez etc. Whether that is the rationale Funimation is working on to justify blocking UK and European regions is open to interpretation but since these are Funimation licensed titles but distributed through someone else, surely the difference is purely semantics? Anyway, I agree with the above poster: I too am getting withdrawal symptoms and as flawed as Funimations' streaming was, it still gave me a way to watch the show. |
| Unfortunately, I live in Australia, and all the "free" services- whether it's Funimation's streaming or Gonzo's (such as Welcome to the NHK which Gonzo re-aired for free), we always miss out. We don't even have a bloody company which has licensed those titles (maybe, I haven't checked), so I don't see why we should be blocked. Madman entertainment (probably our only distributor in Australia) doesn't do jack. PS> And we don't have any Australia-based fansub groups either. Everytime an episode is subbed by Funimation, I have to rely on the kind souls who would re-upload them onto a site without regional restrictions. |
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| i donT understans...what happened???...where is the subbed version...donT understand the fansubbers |
ManInBlack said: Funimation titles are available in the UK but through third party distributors - i.e: Manga, MVM, Beez etc. Whether that is the rationale Funimation is working on to justify blocking UK and European regions is open to interpretation but since these are Funimation licensed titles but distributed through someone else, surely the difference is purely semantics? Interesting... I wasn't aware of this. Though it makes i all the more bizarre that they're blocking UK and European regions. Also, Phantom ep. 13 is airing right now. We have gone exactly one week without any translation for this excellent show (albeit the unsubbed in question, ep. 12, kinda sucked IMO). Not that we can really blame fansubbers... they're not paid and reap very few benefits (and sometimes actually lose money) for their work. That said, I don't understand why no one has done it. I haven't heard of any huge Funimation push, so.... Though who we really ought to be asking is Funimation itself. Again, not like we have any inalienable rights to it from them either, but it's still odd. |
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| Good(?) news: Funimation has finally updated FMA: Brotherhood to episode 12. In the most optimistic of possibilities, this means that a subbed Phantom may be soon to follow. Crappy "Eren"-using subs, yes, but subs all the same. (and though the streaming would still be North America-only, if Funimation does stream it, a thousand or so groups will steal the subtitles and torrent it off) |
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YennoX said: Unfortunately, I live in Australia, and all the "free" services- whether it's Funimation's streaming or Gonzo's (such as Welcome to the NHK which Gonzo re-aired for free), we always miss out. We don't even have a bloody company which has licensed those titles (maybe, I haven't checked), so I don't see why we should be blocked. Madman entertainment (probably our only distributor in Australia) doesn't do jack. PS> And we don't have any Australia-based fansub groups either. Everytime an episode is subbed by Funimation, I have to rely on the kind souls who would re-upload them onto a site without regional restrictions. MadMad only really has FMA Brotherhood up on there site at the moment. It would be nice if the could get more up because Funimation being blocked is annoying. It would be nice if there was an Australian based subbed group. I was just thinking that the other day wondering if there where actually any out there. I even considered starting my own one for a couple of hours but I wouldn't be able to translate anything because I don't understand Japanese and not sure of the actual work that goes into subs. I am also going through withdrawal symptoms checking every few hours of every single day for the last week in every sub group listed hoping that episode 12 is up. |
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mrthalo3 said: Still waiting for the sub. Argh... its being really lame! i want subs already,... its been 1 full week ffs :/ |
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| Only 9 episodes on their website.... can Funimation do anything right >.< |
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| Inferno subs are out. |
Mentar said: Inferno subs are out. HALLELUJAH!!!!!! |
| yaay finally |
| While i thought it was pretty good, i still liked the "ein/elen" arc much better so far. I don't see how this little blonde girl is going to replace her, nor do i think a zwei that doesn't care about anything at all is an improvement over the old one. |
| Oh, rest assured. Zwei will begin to care ALOT very quickly (ep13). And Cal (the blonde girl) will be awesome in her own right. Game players tend to agree that the second arc is superior to the first. You won't have to wait long. |
| Just downloaded this episode!! Yay! :) |
| Its finally subbed! woot! |
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| Really enjoyed this episode. Btw, is it me or does Reiji have the coolest theme song ever =P |
Kayro said: It's not just you. It's badass, fits him perfectly! Reiji is really awesome now.Btw, is it me or does Reiji have the coolest theme song ever =P Btw, that assassin that took out all those guys and the civilian. It's totally Elen! :o |
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| A loli in my assassin show? What is this I don't even... |
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| Music was GAR, Zwei was GAR... This episode amused me :3 |
| Ewwwie little girls. I don't want her, I want Elen! |
| At last! And great episode, was worth waiting for. And it is pretty much clear that it was Elen standing on the roof, a little shame they revealed her so quickly. Or maybe that was someone similar, and they are just playing with us a little. :] I hope we won't have to wait for 13th episode this long. And one biggest THANK YOU to Inferno team for this episode. |
| It was good hoenstly, great direction as always. And nice developments too overall, I like the way the series is handled, and I hope we won't see Ein ever again (not that I don't like this character, but well... she's dead, and a dead character shouldn't be revived under any circumstance). |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Good episode. Zwei looks different... Also lol @ Zwei theme song |
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| The little girl seems (to me) like someone who is going to annoy me...A LOT! Zweis song is great, his looks are great, his behaviour is great. He is great :) This wasn't a bad episode, it was pretty good actually, but somehow I predict something bad happening now that this little girl joined the show.... Why, oh why did they insert little loli girl into serious show? |
| I like this episode. Zwei got his swager right, but I do miss Elen |
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