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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I'm actually pretty amazed how long Narumi has survived in this arc. He's an example of a man that surpasses the limits of a human if you ask me. Got some narratives from "Francine". She's so different in the present compared to her past especially with those ambitions. A very thrilling and emotional episode imo. Narumi's eyes showed a lot of feelings after seeing the truth. |
Stark700Jan 17, 2019 7:27 AM
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| This episode was an emotional rollercoaster. Incredible episode and poor Shirogane at the end :( |
| Intense and a very emotional episode this, especially for Narumi. He’s back but sadly there’s hardly anyone left anymore and coupled with that the fact that it was a fake Francine Doll all along just makes all the sacrifices and pain more in vain and excruciating. Damn, those upgrades though, he just ripped apart the two elite dolls in no time and his extreme facial expressions were very intimidating to say the least. Goodbye old man(at the start of the episode, the doc) and Fatima, rip you brave warriors! Moving on, we got some interesting backstory for Lady Francine though. Apparently, the real one is implied to still be out there while the others(as in Dolls) are acting as decoys, I suppose. I’d love to see more on that in the coming episodes. I hope it isn’t Eleonore though, but very unlikely I’m sure. But Narumi said something along the lines of the Aqua Vitae that she given was in fact a belonging to Francine’s and so she’s a reincarnation, and this really makes me bloody curious. Second half of the episode concluded the fight between the Automata and the Midnight Circus, but the transition from that to the new arc was very underwhelming. I was expecting to see a couple more minutes showing the atrocity of the fight but instead we only got a 20-second clip of Ashihana’s monologues. Honestly, the pacing is really getting out of hand now, it somehow just worked earlier but not for me this episode for some reason. Anyway, Narumi and Shirogane, or rather Eleonore, have fianlly reunited but it isn’t the merry-like reunion as many of us would’ve ideally wanted. Apparently, Narumi’s been told that Shirogane is the ‘real’ Francine by some other old folk. Again, the transition of this scene was so very rushed that it really didn’t resound to me as much as I’d preferred it to but I’m still highly interested to see how it goes from here on. Hopefully, the pacing of the show will slow down now too but alas that probably won’t happen. Seems like little Masaru is still on the run, looking forward to seeing when the story centres around him soon. An odd thing I found about this episode was regarding the hair colour of Narumi by the way. First up after the surgery, he had a mix of Silver-ish and black hair but during the meeting with the retired Shirogane it was full Sliver and yet after these events, chronologically speaking, it turned back to full black. What happened there, I wonder. Another interesting bit I caught was the template that the fake Doll Francine was holding, coincidentally(not!) it was a good luck message from a Saiga! Damn, things are really getting interesting plot-wise here! |
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| More character deaths. The irony, so the four automatas were worshiping an imposter for 100 years or so. and despite all the fuzz about them their death came so easily, i wish we seen more about them. Unfortunately, this could have been a great anime, even for someone who didn't read the manga, it's clearly very rushed. Too bad that the shiroganes died without any sympathy from US or me at least. I really wished to see more from Fatima, Lucile, The professor and the others who i don't even remember their names. I hope they slow down things from now on. |
_MezzoJan 17, 2019 9:14 AM
| Incredible episode!!! That's how an anime should be done!!!! 10/10 from me. One of the best shows so far and definately going in my top 10 favourites. I'm so gonna binge watch this after finish its airing. |
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| Oh so that's why this will run for 36 eps cu'z of those train wrecks , shirogane died for nothing, shit why didn't Lucelle used her fake Francine to order those automata's to kill each other......The fight sucks. |
| I feel like all of this should be very impactful but I can't bring myself to care about any of it. All these characters that I know nothing about are dying left and right and it is a heavy burden on Narumi that I can't empathize with because I've never seen these bonds of his develop. Those four, supposedly, very intimidating, dolls have been teasted for the entirety of last season and now when they finally show up they're dying like flies. Also Narumi's power-up was underwhelming to say the least. I think this series is gravely hurt by how rushed it is, both by the skipped chunk of the manga and how alert the pacing is. And that's a huge shame because I like the aesthetic of the show and some of the characters, and I can see the huge potential that is being wasted so far. |
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| Tbh I didn't like this episode. Nonsense, bad pacing and very bad conclusion of this arc. So disappointing, all these deaths for nothing, at least they should have kept Lucille in the show. Although it's understandable the emotional outburst of Narumi seemed rather artificial and ridiculous to me I even had to laugh. Obviously they skipped, rushed and simply overdone it. However, it's still quite enjoyable and I hope the story gets better from now on. |
| This an adaption of a manga. If it were 1 to 1 it wouldn't be an anime, it'd be a motion manga. Adaptions don't have to follow the source material, and few actually do. |
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| That new old guy seems pretty suspicious. He created spy nanobots... maybe he created the disease nanobots too... |
| Damn, Narumi got himself a harem for the moment lol Honestly Fatima > Ming Xia > Eleanore Also, it's pretty much certain Eleanor is Francine |
| Such an emotional episodes. Narumi's upgrades were awesome, the mismatched eyes, the limbs and the gray hair makes him look like a badass Shirogane. That Kiss though, he deserved it. I was saddened by the reunion he had with Eleanore, I wish they didn't meet again like that. I think he remembered a little though, since he left. I wonder where did Masaru go? |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| Well, that was quite the twist. On a side note, I sure do miss the Bump of Chicken OP. :( Zura_Orokamono said: I feel like all of this should be very impactful but I can't bring myself to care about any of it. All these characters that I know nothing about are dying left and right and it is a heavy burden on Narumi that I can't empathize with because I've never seen these bonds of his develop. Those four, supposedly, very intimidating, dolls have been teasted for the entirety of last season and now when they finally show up they're dying like flies. Also Narumi's power-up was underwhelming to say the least. I think this series is gravely hurt by how rushed it is, both by the skipped chunk of the manga and how alert the pacing is. And that's a huge shame because I like the aesthetic of the show and some of the characters, and I can see the huge potential that is being wasted so far. This about sums it up, unfortunately. |
| The breakneck pace of this anime makes a lot of characters deaths mean nothing because we barely know them, this show probably needs another 100 episodes to really give the manga true justice because that thing is long as shit lol |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| WAIT...WHAT??? The obvious parts were that Narumi and Co. were tricked by the Doll that is "Francine"...but the transition after is just a jumbled mess, literally taken out of context. For now, speculating that now Narumi will recover from this situation is that through some magical plot progression that this series will eventually recover from. |
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Tsunshine-Chris said: This an adaption of a manga. If it were 1 to 1 it wouldn't be an anime, it'd be a motion manga. Adaptions don't have to follow the source material, and few actually do. True, but most manga adaptations don't skip eight whole volumes of material. That's just bad no matter how you slice it. |
| I'm torn between enjoying the face value worth of this show and feeling like I've missed like 3 season's worth of content in the last 4 or 5 episodes. This is Swiss Cheese the animation. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
Focube said: Zura_Orokamono said: I'll just wait and see how the anime team squeezed this in to remaining 12 episodes. 22 episodes and it's really strange there is an episode 14,5 next week O o ? Weird cut! I wasn't the one who said that. 14.5 means it's a recap. |
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Zura_Orokamono said: I feel like all of this should be very impactful but I can't bring myself to care about any of it. All these characters that I know nothing about are dying left and right and it is a heavy burden on Narumi that I can't empathize with because I've never seen these bonds of his develop. Those four, supposedly, very intimidating, dolls have been teasted for the entirety of last season and now when they finally show up they're dying like flies. Also Narumi's power-up was underwhelming to say the least. I think this series is gravely hurt by how rushed it is, both by the skipped chunk of the manga and how alert the pacing is. And that's a huge shame because I like the aesthetic of the show and some of the characters, and I can see the huge potential that is being wasted so far. Exactly this. That was some godawful pacing. I felt nothing, despite Narumi reiterating that he and his comrades had sacrificed all for a fake doll, because where in hell did we actually see that bonding? It all just felt like brief interactions, they seem more like acquaintances. Seriously, who thought this was a great idea? Sure an anime adaptation is for gaining new fans to read the source, but no, not really, this doesn't make me want to invest my time into a 43 volume long manga series. Well although it's not working for me, perhaps there are many others who will pick up the manga. Aside from the skipping of content, I get that Narumi went through a lot, and he's desperate, and mostly just very angry, but he's not even using his head at all. Shirogane really doesn't know anything, why would she, just because she drank the aqua vitae of Francine? She's not really a reincarnation. Idk though, perhaps in the world of Karakuri Circus, it's possible that she can unlock Francine's memories and knowledge. |
Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tsunshine-Chris said: This an adaption of a manga. If it were 1 to 1 it wouldn't be an anime, it'd be a motion manga. Adaptions don't have to follow the source material, and few actually do. True, but most manga adaptations don't skip eight whole volumes of material. That's just bad no matter how you slice it. No. Not true. This is an adaption. It doesn't have to follow the source. |
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| Every week this show never fails to impress me with not just how rushed it is, but with how it keeps skipping huge vital chunks of the plot like it's nothing to the point where it's just impossible to follow. The absolute skip-and-drop record setter right here. |
CGJan 18, 2019 9:37 AM
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Why was those two top automata unable to move while the female one was able to move last episode... plot convenience? bad writing? I’d say both at this point. Narumi constantly getting powerups and everyone worshipping him like every typical shounen protagonist is fucking enjoying Why is everyone getting petrified and dying off? No explanation. I’m glad this arc was over. The writer Akame ga kill’d this up with the amount of senseless, pointless deaths with undeveloped characters and plot induced stupidity that I couldn’t care less about any of them Stop having Narumi run away ffs. It’s stupid plot convenience to extend the story |
| Let's keep this simple. So much happened this episode that it's just crazy. By passing the all for noting that happened (well not really as I think they made a big blow to the Midnight Circus). Let me first say that I think this episode was rushed. The second half anyway. Narumi, going through a series of hair changes, its like DBZ. Also, it looks like has memories are finally coming back. I hope he meets up with Guy soon and has things explained to him. (Guy didn't lose his memories did he?) That old guy been watching everything and I think he's playing Narumi. Since that was a fake Francine created by the real one, what the heck? I guess after 100 years, she learned how to create more of herself. I'm wondering if the real one is out there creating more automata. I'm expecting her to be. I mean, that was 100 years ago after all. |
HUNK1984 said: papsoshea said: An emotional ending, the pacing is really fast now and some moments are struggling to hold emotional weight but still, a good episode, Narumi made the comeback but didn't get the ultimate result he wanted. Hope things between him and Eleanore clear up. Also, can you manga readers get lost? "THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE." Which I did just now. I only mentioned the details for this episode of anime. That's all. No worries. I really appreciated it. Also by the fact that you waited till after arc was finished to give the manga's comparison. We all know that this anime adaption is skipping a lot form the manga so when we see the big jump/ gap that happens in the anime, it's nice to have someone who gives the explanation to us after all is said and done without spoiling things. Thanks |
| Narumi is getting fucked up as the series goes along. I figured Shirogane would be the real Francine, but since it came up immediately I'm now guessing it's a red herring or there's something more to it. |
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Tsunshine-Chris said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: True, but most manga adaptations don't skip eight whole volumes of material. That's just bad no matter how you slice it. No. Not true. This is an adaption. It doesn't have to follow the source. Okay, so we aren't actually reading my comments. Cool, have a nice day. Delete your account. etc. |
| wow so eleonar was or is the reincarnation of the doll..does that mean Narumi is also a reincarnation of the wizard or something |
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| Lol, I don't see why is Fou lying about Eleonore. |
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| Wow, this episode was even crazier than the last one. Can't wait to get to the manga version of this. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Good episode. Narumi and Eleonore finally got reunited but not in a good way. Narumi still suffering from amnesia. |
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| So, apparently Shirogane has the blood of Francine in her, the same way that Yin's blood is in Narumi. Narumi almost killed Shirogane, but some of his memories of her came back at the last minute, and he ran away. |
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| Can't believe that wasn't the real Doll francine Narumi has changed a bit too much, I believe the old narumi wouldn't do that to Eleonore |
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