Love and Lies
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Mm, Lilina and Neji did kiss after all in bed. No interruptions and tbh, that got lewd. I wonder how Misaki feels about this Between all the drama, Misaki and Neji are still building into their relationship. |
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| I guess the hit the hardest part in their relationship, Lilina and Neji that is and the others seems to realise what's happening as well. Now the question is what will happen next which choice will the characters make since the outcome could have a lot of consequences for them and the rest of their lives. I have to say that it was nice hearing the story of the government workers that are watching over them. They can relate to the characters even if they acted cold at first it's clear that they are trying their best in their own way. |
| Omg omg the first scene was 2lewd4me *w* |
| It's a cruel thing loving someone...the feelings of everyone are intensifying and becoming overwhelming! Who knew Motoi had such a similar circumstance to Nejima and man what a sad story plus the fact that he has to work with the women he still loves...harsh |
| I shall rule over the realms of anime and manga! Mwahhahahahaha!!! |
| I'd watch that Romeo and Juliet play for sure. I'm still team Ririna, but it was kind of hard not to root for Misaki this episode. Plus her making the little X with her fingers is adorable. |
| Just a prank bro - Silver hair |
| Silver hair guy is a good guy. He has a cruel story and actually tries to lead him to not make the same mistake. Poor Lilina, she's so confused over her feelings now. The last sequence was pretty awesome, nice shots. |
| I'd hate if a law like this ever happens IRL No matter how much Ririna and Neji get along and how great they are together, at the end of the day, they were forced to be this way and it's really not fair that Misaki has to watch all of this happen Man I feel bad for her in this whole situation.....And don't get me started on the Silver Haired guy TwT |
| Neji was an idiot believing in Motoi. Well, it got lewd and he did regret it. Lilina's emotions got intensified and Misaki is having problems on her own. Motoi past story was sad and he is woking with the same girl that he loved. He is probably cheering for Neji now since he can relate to his situation. How cruel. |
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| Nice episode overall. Motoi's backstory is heart-wrenching, I wonder if they both got married separatly. Also what was that with the letter ? If you can send a letter, why not answer the phone haha ? Well nice episode overall, we got some lewd action too :) |
"I’m not going there to die; I’m going to find out if I’m really alive."  |
| Poor Misaki... I am rooting for her.. |
Oh my god Misaki is getting naughty . . . i eat this stuff up! I swear that gave me the chills~! |
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| Honestly what are they doing here ? Racing to Yukari's heart or Ping pong ? Blue Flag to Takasaki. |
| Gahhh, I'm in love with this anime. It's such a sad story and I really empathise with all of the characters. I still think Mikasi is his real government match, and that they're being used to test the government system, in an aim to prove that he will always be drawn back to his assigned partner (or smth like that). I don't think he was meant to fall for Ririni at all. I really like both girls, and honestly I just want them to live happily ever after as a polyamourous trio. ALSO OMG, Nisaka's blush when Neji catches his eye :3 I also loveeeed the scene where Neji reads Ririna's letter. It hit me in the feels. |
| 'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga |
| Good episode. Loved the Neji x Ririna kissing, so good. :3 Soundtrack was excellent this episode, I love the usage. White haired dude is a nice guy, it was really nice of him to tell Yukari to not go down the same path as him. His backstory was sad and based of the visuals it does seem like his red haired colleague was the one he loved. I do feel sad for Misaki and her position, that final scene was quite poignant. :( |
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| i mean having them watch that sex ed video while giving instructions and then directing them to bedrooms was creepy already, actually filming them would have been waaaaaaaay over the line. Nejima you gotta get your shit together fam Ririna and Misaki are still very likeable characters, I'd want both of them as my gf tbh |
| Neji was truly an idiot for believing in Motoi. Motoi was in a similar situation as well. Looks like he's working with the woman he still loves. He's a swell guy. After Neji kissed Ririna, she decided to ban herself from him. She's confused with her feelings for him. |
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| It truly is a cruel thing loving someone. |
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| Oh wow, these relationships are getting even more complicated now. Not that it's surprising. This is getting better and better in my opinion. Great episode. |
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| Another great episode! I wish i had ririna-chan. |
Stark700 said: Mm, Lilina and Neji did kiss after all in bed. No interruptions and tbh, that got lewd. They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). I'm kinda torn here, don't really understand why they are even making those changes.. yes, it seems subtle enough yet in the long run those are really big things when dealing with character developement.. I mean, even Neji's conversation with Yajima after that was left as it was in the manga and didn't make sense as it implied he didn't do anything. Dunno what they are aiming for here. On the other hand, Misaki's ending monologue was anime original too and it literally torn me to pieces (kudos to HanaKana's VA). And Motoi-Ichijou relationship scene was also adapted well. The pacing was a bit fast this time but can't really say the episode was bad, quite the opposite. And they even finally sort out the soundtrack thing. It's just those little details that are hurting this series here and there, little but very important details. |
| Meh, bedroom scene was handled whole universe better in manga. Mich666 said: They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). I'm kinda torn here, don't really understand why they are even making those changes.. I'm afraid it's spoiling ending of the manga, though I really hope that it's only my overthinking. |
rsc-plAug 14, 2017 3:12 PM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Mich666 said: Stark700 said: Mm, Lilina and Neji did kiss after all in bed. No interruptions and tbh, that got lewd. They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). . He did kiss her, but they didnt show it until later (in chapter 118 or close to that one you see a flashback of it) This Sh*t is making me go crazy, usually in Harems you get a best gurl and root for her, usually there will be other cool girl, but not as cool as your favorite, but this show is making me root for both (still thinking Misaki is going down) Misaki's predicament is something very human, she is not bad (not for now seems so... cannot tell because this scene is anime original), but she is the one suffering more in all this, while Neji is all bitchy and cannot take a choice. |
AredrosAug 14, 2017 2:56 PM
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Mich666 said: Stark700 said: Mm, Lilina and Neji did kiss after all in bed. No interruptions and tbh, that got lewd. They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). I'm kinda torn here, don't really understand why they are even making those changes.. yes, it seems subtle enough yet in the long run those are really big things when dealing with character developement.. I mean, even Neji's conversation with Yajima after that was left as it was in the manga and didn't make sense as it implied he didn't do anything. Dunno what they are aiming for here. On the other hand, Misaki's ending monologue was anime original too and it literally torn me to pieces (kudos to HanaKana's VA). And Motoi-Ichijou relationship scene was also adapted well. The pacing was a bit fast this time but can't really say the episode was bad, quite the opposite. And they even finally sort out the soundtrack thing. It's just those little details that are hurting this series here and there, little but very important details. He did in tankoubon ver. you can see on chapter 12 RAW (Tankoubon ver.) |
rsc-pl said: I'm afraid it's spoiling ending of the manga, though really hope that it's only my overthinking. Can assure you I'm only refering chapters adapted by current episode here. Rickiri said: He did in tankoubon ver. you can see on chapter 12 RAW (Tankoubon ver.) There is only fade-to-black leading to cliffhanger in the Mangabox version of the manga afaik (chapter 55 I believe), is this somehow different in printed version of this scene? (I mean, in manga, if we don't see the kiss explicitly, we can be pretty sure it never happened). Edit: Nevermind, found it. http://imgur.com/a/pNtzS The thing is, all those extra chapters still feels as fanservice to me as originally it wasn't there in Mangabox release and were added only added after tankobons went out (apparently the ending scene I was mentioning was part of those extras too). Aka they are meant to be read only after you know whole manga. It's nice the anime is adding this bits too but you can say they are spoiling some things very early and possibly undermining some impact in the end. |
Mich666Aug 14, 2017 3:17 PM
| See guys? I knew he wouldn't go all the way and that the rumors were a lie. The system may be questionable but not THAT questionable. |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Mich666 said: rsc-pl said: I'm afraid it's spoiling ending of the manga, though I really hope that it's only my overthinking. Can assure you I'm only refering chapters adapted by current episode here. That's not what I meant ;) I'm afraid that they know already how this manga is gonna end and they are spoiling it already (I'm up to date with newest chapters). And I hope that it's only my overthinking. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
rsc-pl said: That's not what I meant ;) I'm afraid that they know already how this manga is gonna end and they are spoiling it already (I'm up to date with newest chapters). And I hope that it's only my overthinking. Yeah, have the same feeling here. And even in previous episodes there were some hints that needlessly spoiled further developement. |
Mich666 said: Stark700 said: Mm, Lilina and Neji did kiss after all in bed. No interruptions and tbh, that got lewd. They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). I'm kinda torn here, don't really understand why they are even making those changes.. yes, it seems subtle enough yet in the long run those are really big things when dealing with character developement.. I mean, even Neji's conversation with Yajima after that was left as it was in the manga and didn't make sense as it implied he didn't do anything. Dunno what they are aiming for here. On the other hand, Misaki's ending monologue was anime original too and it literally torn me to pieces (kudos to HanaKana's VA). And Motoi-Ichijou relationship scene was also adapted well. The pacing was a bit fast this time but can't really say the episode was bad, quite the opposite. And they even finally sort out the soundtrack thing. It's just those little details that are hurting this series here and there, little but very important details. They actually did it is just it wasn't translated.I think it was chapter 54 or 55 it was choped and not fully translated. |
elior1 said: Mich666 said: i say lets wait and see if their early spoilers will ruin things in the long run or not since right now we only guessingYeah, have the same feeling here. And even in previous episodes there were some hints that needlessly spoiled further developement. Maybe the manga and anime will have different endings. |
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| Holy fuck, this was such a good episode. I feel for Misaki. I hope she takes the opportunity. |
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mislavXDDD said: Actually, you can find the chapter fully translated on MangaFox (at least in the app Manga Rock using MangaFox as source)Mich666 said: They didn't kiss in the manga though, he saw her tears => he wasn't able to do it (and she was only mad that he pushed her to the bed). I'm kinda torn here, don't really understand why they are even making those changes.. yes, it seems subtle enough yet in the long run those are really big things when dealing with character developement.. I mean, even Neji's conversation with Yajima after that was left as it was in the manga and didn't make sense as it implied he didn't do anything. Dunno what they are aiming for here. On the other hand, Misaki's ending monologue was anime original too and it literally torn me to pieces (kudos to HanaKana's VA). And Motoi-Ichijou relationship scene was also adapted well. The pacing was a bit fast this time but can't really say the episode was bad, quite the opposite. And they even finally sort out the soundtrack thing. It's just those little details that are hurting this series here and there, little but very important details. They actually did it is just it wasn't translated.I think it was chapter 54 or 55 it was choped and not fully translated. |
| Poor Misaki. Poor Motoi. Poor Lilina. |
| Can we see some Misaki and Neji Development?? Like come on! I feel so bad for Misaki. I bet she has some sort of sickness and only has a few years to live, that's why she's so secretive all of the time. Ririna is cute, but I hate it when someone comes in between two people that are already in love. #TeamMisaki |
| Well, that episode actually wasn't that bad. Sadly, because it wasn't that bad, I missed out on my comedy unlike last week's episode. |
| I found myself really immersed in Matoi's past story and would love to see any further continuation of it as the season progresses. Even if those 2 are just side characters they do have a small impact on the story and it would definitely be nice to see some kind of romance there, even if it's contradicting to the work they do. You go for it Matoi. |
| Seems Ririna is finally sorting out her feelings based on the letter she sent to Nejima. I do hope Ririna overcomes her confused feelings. Feel bad for Misaki, she knows she's doing wrong by loving Nejima. I hope she gets a good ending. |
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| Heads up to all the Lili/Ririna fans... she's not gonna show up for a while! I'm happy this is staying faithful to the manga they could of easily f it up but they haven't yet... expect idk what's going on with the Nisaka thing ... I probably just don't remember those parts |
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| Omg so he's going to be with Ririna? What about Misaki 😭😭! !! |
| Poor misaki :/ I'm scared this will end up somewhat like nisekoi, with main childhood girl losing to new "cuter" girl. But a man can hope |
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| White Haired Dude wasn't so bad after all. No one is really bad or needlessly evil. which I greatly appreciate. It's nice not hating anyone when watching a show. For a second I was annoyed with how Misaki didn't tell Ririna what she was feeling, but that's not really her responsibility. Besides, Ririna was the one who kept pushing Yukari and Misaki to remain intimate with each other. I'm still shipping Yukari x Ririna, though. 5/5 |
aikaflipAug 19, 2017 8:20 AM
| Well, it's starting to get a lot more interesting in the aftermath of the "lecture" at the Ministry, not least because Nejima's naivety in believing Motoi seems to have really damaged his relationship with Ririna, at least in the short-term (because, as Misaki said, it's clear that Ririna loves Nejima, at the very least). It'll be interesting to see what Misaki does now that Ririna has developed feelings for Nejima and now that she's taking a step back from their relationship for a while; the ending suggests that she's gonna start acting a lot more selfishly, so it'll be interesting to see where that goes. Also, it's interesting that Motoi and the red-haired Ministry girl have a very similar story to Nejima's right now, although I wonder what else Nejima will do after Motoi's advice; after all, he was advised to be honest with his feelings, so what he does from here on out is going to be a real test of who he truly loves out of Misaki and Ririna. |
UrbanJahts said: Heads up to all the Lili/Ririna fans... she's not gonna show up for a while! I'm happy this is staying faithful to the manga they could of easily f it up but they haven't yet... expect idk what's going on with the Nisaka thing ... I probably just don't remember those parts what do you mean she's not going to show up for a while?? ps; #teammisaki |
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hikiru said: what do you mean she's not going to show up for a while?? ps; #teammisaki Because it's time for our Goddess, Misaki to take the spotlight. Ririna won't show up until Romeo and Juliet's performance at the school festival. |
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Mich666 said: There is only fade-to-black leading to cliffhanger in the Mangabox version of the manga afaik (chapter 55 I believe), is this somehow different in printed version of this scene? (I mean, in manga, if we don't see the kiss explicitly, we can be pretty sure it never happened). Edit: Nevermind, found it. http://imgur.com/a/pNtzS The thing is, all those extra chapters still feels as fanservice to me as originally it wasn't there in Mangabox release and were added only added after tankobons went out (apparently the ending scene I was mentioning was part of those extras too). Aka they are meant to be read only after you know whole manga. It's nice the anime is adding this bits too but you can say they are spoiling some things very early and possibly undermining some impact in the end. I thought it was pretty clear that Neji did it since Lilina said "Why did you do that?". aikaflip said: White Haired Dude wasn't so bad after all. No one is really bad or needlessly evil. which I greatly appreciate. It's nice not hating anyone when watching a show. For a second I was annoyed with how Misaki didn't tell Ririna what she was feeling, but that's not really her responsibility. Besides, Ririna was the one who kept pushing Yuusuke and Misaki to remain intimate with each other. I'm still shipping Yuusuke x Ririna, though. 5/5 Yuusuke? you mean Nejima? Yuusuke is Nisaka first name. |
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