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Jul 24, 2016 6:55 AM
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Lol, can't take seriously at Roid listening to Walkure's songs.
The fan service was funny, that Makina bed scene haha

I think they really pushed Walkure's performance into a spotlight direction. One thing that caught my attention is Hayate's reaction to Freyja's song though. Also, I think Freyja was about to confess to Hayate..

Jul 24, 2016 7:12 AM
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I loved the concert scene, Hayate telling Freyja that her way of singing has indeed changed and this time he felt the real sky while she was singing and that it was amazing.
Poor Freyja got cockblocked when about to confess lol. Hayate seems more and more aware of her. It was cute how she said that her rune has been pulsing since that moment on her birthday. XD

Bogueface during the concert was priceless, lmao, he was totally flustered by Reina.

Also next ep Freyja and Hayate seem to be talking to Qasim? Hmm, I can't wait to see what that's about.
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Jul 24, 2016 8:04 AM
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My god Makina went above and beyond to show why she's one the best girls. Constant showing of her hot body, and an especially cute singing voice, her solo was great too.

crimilde said:

Bogueface during the concert was priceless, lmao, he was totally flustered by Reina.


That was priceless but at least he has good taste, both Reina and Makina are best girls.


Jul 24, 2016 8:05 AM
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The Concert episode. A lot more fanservice than in some of the others too. That Makina endcard.

So Hayate finally finds out what we've been expecting all along. Let's see if there's more to it than we expect. I'm sure it's not that simple as it seems.

Mirage is so far behind in the love stakes right now that it's going to take a miracle or a "YOU'RE BOTH MY WINGS" ending to prevent Hayate and Freyja ending up together.
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Jul 24, 2016 8:06 AM
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Don't you guys think this is playing out just like frontier. I mean first is more focus on older girl at first, then we have this whole birthday scene which put more focus on the birthday girl. Go check the series out again and tell if I'm not the only one seeing this, because if so mirage definitely will have a comeback maybe even first kiss?
Jul 24, 2016 8:28 AM
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Thats why i said FreyjaxHayate will not happen, this episode pretty much screaming it. Its not about Hayate's father bomb Vindermere, but the fact that Freyja's life is short. And at the beginning of the episode, it was said that Vindermere people's life expectancy can be even shorter than 30 years.

WHATSMORE Hayate still didn't notice the feelings despite the whole birthday episode until the music backstage of this episode and his reaction for the feeling was short!!

I believe Freyja will wish HayatexMirage to be together and be happy at the end of series, She is going to sing for the peoples happiness until her life ends :(
Of course I'm riding the Freyja ship, but sometimes things just won't go like you expected.
Jul 24, 2016 9:14 AM
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Hayate/Freyja is so strong it hurts.

Hayate's dad and his doings was the cherry on top.

Hayate and Freyja are pretty much now bound by UNMEI and UNDERSTANDING.
Jul 24, 2016 1:28 PM
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I didn't expect 2 new songs.
The focus on Hayate/Freyja is too strong. As far i'm concerned, i don't think those two are going to end up together.
The thing about Hayate's father was predictable.
Jul 24, 2016 2:29 PM
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This episode just hilarious, bogue reaction tho is he fall for reirei haha. And finally what we predict is becoming true, hayate dad is the one who throw the bomb in windermiere. I just really curious for the next episode how can freyja meet casim

Anyway freyja/hayate so strong in this episode. I like freyja reaction when mikumo teased her. Still freyja/hayate shipper tho but i just cant take the prediction why always give disadvantage one to freyja. It depends on the writer and just hope he will serve us something good.
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Noticing mirage is kind of disappearing to the background in this episode, probably will make a comeback next episode.

Mikumo character screams out for character development & getting the feeling once it's revealed what she is that will be pretty much for her. There's like 9 episode left and from what will have seen it's been pretty much quite thin. We'll still yet to even seen what her room looks like or why she likes being naked for some reason. Would've prefered a bit of character development to her.
Jul 24, 2016 6:07 PM

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I didn't expect 2 new songs.
The focus on Hayate/Freyja is too strong. As far i'm concerned, i don't think those two are going to end up together.
The thing about Hayate's father was predictable.


I mean, him nuking Windermere is predictable, but I didn't predict he actually nuked the NUNS base which lead to the independence winning...
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Im all for team mirage but i really just hope he picks somebody. No ova no movies please. Also he really needs to step his game up at least alto was kissing both girls every few episodes hayate barley blushed one episode.
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I'm going for Hayate x Freyja If it ends up Hayate x Mirage just don't give a bullshit ending to freyja like singing until she's 30! Wtf and don't give Mirage a bullshit ending either if Freyja wins that's just messed up if one of the girls win don't give the other a BULLSHIT ending 😉
Jul 25, 2016 12:18 AM

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TYxTxYT said:
NobodyKnow said:
I didn't expect 2 new songs.
The focus on Hayate/Freyja is too strong. As far i'm concerned, i don't think those two are going to end up together.
The thing about Hayate's father was predictable.


I mean, him nuking Windermere is predictable, but I didn't predict he actually nuked the NUNS base which lead to the independence winning...


Oh wow I missed that part. That changes stuff, and now I get why Whatshisname was so against Arad hanging around Hayate because he is the son of "that man".

Then again I guess Roid is very well aware of this fact but hiding it to stir the people towards war again and releasing that video without showing what exactly was bombed. And the NUNS are not saying anything because they're ashamed that they basically had a traitor among them?

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Jul 25, 2016 1:21 AM

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Yep, this pretty much confirmed me that Freya is about to lose the game. That's grade a kawamori cockblocking there. And the viewers are supposed to feel sorry and root for Mirage till some sort of breakthrough happens and when Freya finally gets the chance to say her feelings Hayate's answer to Freya will be something like "sorry you are like sister to me" or something.



The reveal about Hayate's father makes sense however I think there's more to it. NUNs being silent smells of conspiracy going on.

Farabeuf said:


Mirage is so far behind in the love stakes right now that it's going to take a miracle or a "YOU'RE BOTH MY WINGS" ending to prevent Hayate and Freyja ending up together.




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Fai said:
Yep, this pretty much confirmed me that Freya is about to lose the game. That's grade a kawamori cockblocking there. And the viewers are supposed to feel sorry and root for Mirage till some sort of breakthrough happens and when Freya finally gets the chance to say her feelings Hayate's answer to Freya will be something like "sorry you are like sister to me" or something.



The reveal about Hayate's father makes sense however I think there's more to it. NUNs being silent smells of conspiracy going on.

Farabeuf said:


Mirage is so far behind in the love stakes right now that it's going to take a miracle or a "YOU'RE BOTH MY WINGS" ending to prevent Hayate and Freyja ending up together.






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Jul 25, 2016 2:11 AM

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The triangle feels identical to the one in SDF Macross where one pairing is continuously teased and gets fanservice, while other is focused on angst, till the one with angst wins.

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Walkure assaulting my eyes and ears with TOO MUCH DICKULTURE!!! :D

Anyway prepare to abandon the freya ship for good and board the mirage SHIP! :D We all know that they'll never end up together Its against macross tradition and come on the girl is going to live for about 30 years.
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Jul 25, 2016 5:54 AM

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Holy fucking shit
Jul 25, 2016 5:54 AM
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I just Can't shake the feeling that freyja will die whichever end they go with. The deathflag is strong with her, we can't go an episode without the writers reminding us this is her faith. Unless they pull some bullshit excuse like she's special or the power of love saved her.
Jul 25, 2016 5:58 AM
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lol at Lloyd. BEst scene ever
Jul 25, 2016 5:59 AM
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bastek66 said:
Holy fucking shit


MDE, Var, jets... Bewbs beat all
Jul 25, 2016 6:10 AM
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Looks like most of everyone including me predicted that hayate's father is nuking windermean planet is true. Then, I can assume that freyja's home got burned because of that? Just an assumption.

hahaha bogue is funny character in this episode.

I am also curious too what was qasim discuss with both freyja and hayate at the end of episode.

I hope to see battle next week with song of course. =)
Jul 25, 2016 8:55 AM

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This episode contains the kind of shit that would make a prepubescent boy's balls drop.
Jul 25, 2016 9:07 AM

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I'm totally shipping Reina x Bogue.
Jul 25, 2016 11:44 AM
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Holy fucking shit


That's some big deculture...
Jul 25, 2016 2:00 PM
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A concert themed episode; it’s nice to see the girls appearing as the real Valkyries, though only for a short time. Then some cute moment with Freyja, and the confession interrupted like seen in most anime.

Maybe Hayate's dad was being controlled by the Var when he dropped the dimensional bomb on Windermere. Or everything was caused by that shady Epsilon Foundation, its so obvious they have some secret agenda.
Jul 25, 2016 2:41 PM
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Dickculture!!!!!!!!Looks like every guy is going gaga for them Walkure girls even them Windermeres. So, now that it was reveled as to what Hayate's dad did, will Freyja have achnge of mins and probabaly join up with her fellow Winderemeres?
Jul 25, 2016 4:15 PM

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Was a ok episode. I guess they had to use the fanservice card somewhere and the episode does that with half of the time which I'm kinda happy?

I guessed that Hayate's dad was the one who dropped the bomb but siding with the windermere? That was odd, lol. Perhaps Hayate is half-windermer???

Recent episode/ hayate and freyja development have been a huge burn to Mirage. That's funny.

17 episode in and now, we're getting good stuff. Kind of a late bloomer, this show is.
Jul 25, 2016 5:33 PM

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Hayate hasn't seen his mom in two years? This year I saw my mom for the first time in seven years, wonder how Frey-Frey would take that.

Wait. "Why can they [Earthlings] live so much longer than the other humanoid races?" What, the cat people and fish people also have short lifespans? But then there's an elderly fish people couple. Mistranslation?
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Jul 25, 2016 10:34 PM
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The most ridiculous thing about this episode was them putting a virus through the entire galactic network. Just let that sink in for a moment.
Jul 26, 2016 3:54 AM

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ep so hilarious kekekekekek
Jul 26, 2016 4:50 AM

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im sure the father of Hayate wanted to just destroy the NUNS/UN base on Windermere planet for the sake of Windermenians but unfortunately he miscalculated the effects that will kill a lot of Windermernians too
Jul 26, 2016 7:47 AM
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I'm totally shipping Reina x Bogue.


Well, Bogue better start learning how to throw the creds around, or else Reina is gonna stick to Ms. Fluffy Fluffy Makina!! Course, an utterly CUNNING PLAN by Satelight and Kawamori to release the BD (with the omake that features Makina modeling what the group REALLY WEARS on stage) just before this episode that features MORE Makina goodness... both creds AND nosebleeds a flowing!! :)
Jul 26, 2016 7:49 AM

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Aww, Bogue, just admit that you like that titty. B))
Jul 26, 2016 10:01 AM

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I love new songs, can't wait for the release <3
Jul 26, 2016 10:53 AM

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Farabeuf said:
Fai said:
Yep, this pretty much confirmed me that Freya is about to lose the game. That's grade a kawamori cockblocking there. And the viewers are supposed to feel sorry and root for Mirage till some sort of breakthrough happens and when Freya finally gets the chance to say her feelings Hayate's answer to Freya will be something like "sorry you are like sister to me" or something.



The reveal about Hayate's father makes sense however I think there's more to it. NUNs being silent smells of conspiracy going on.







Phh. I personally just consider Frontier movies canon. They have more consistent plot and less cliche final.

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I'm totally shipping Reina x Bogue.


Blashemer. Makina x Reina. Don't you dare to break an official couple for any stupid ships.

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Speaking of the pairing, I think it would be pretty terrible for Frejya to get with Hayate. That life span thing is quite the burden to put on his mind. I mean by all accounts Hayate is teenager while Frejya is a middle aged woman. She will die before he is even middle aged, which is quite the ordeal to go through. I suppose if he can handle that they can proceed but I don't think he can.

Anyway, what is the Windermerian end game here? It sounds like they want to find away to live longer or something.
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Speaking of the pairing, I think it would be pretty terrible for Frejya to get with Hayate. That life span thing is quite the burden to put on his mind. I mean by all accounts Hayate is teenager while Frejya is a middle aged woman. She will die before he is even middle aged, which is quite the ordeal to go through. I suppose if he can handle that they can proceed but I don't think he can.

Anyway, what is the Windermerian end game here? It sounds like they want to find away to live longer or something.


well since it looks like Roid is trying to use the Protoculture research to extend the windermerian's life span, maybe Freyja's 30 year lifespan isnt even going to be an issue. Maybe they actually will end up finding a way to expand that so Freyja doesn't die... I mean that's really the main goal of Roid.
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My Dickulture! I'll subscribe to that also! hahaha LOLZ!
Freyja sang the ED1 was great!
Damn old geezers! ruined the very intimate moment between Hayate & Freyja!
It's inevitable about the reveal of Hayate's father dropping the dimensional bomb.
4/5.


Jul 27, 2016 8:47 AM

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welll... songs and reveal in this episode.. sums it all up
Jul 27, 2016 1:34 PM

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I liked tihs chapter a lot! Probably because I'm more into idols than battles, but it was hilarous, funny and pikapika <3 and finally more HayaxFrey escenes, yay!
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Maaaan, why can't they just hand this to Freyja and Hayate because she literally can't live as long. >_>
Jul 28, 2016 8:25 AM

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notanicywarmth said:
I'm totally shipping Reina x Bogue.

Blashemer. Makina x Reina. Don't you dare to break an official couple for any stupid ships.
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Sorry not sorry!
*will totally ship it, write fanfiction, convert others into shipping it*
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loved it ^^

it's very obvious that pairing is heading toward fre X hayate since episode 1.. and who are still in denial saying that its macross tradition, just don't want to face it..

No matter how is the ending is gonna be, it doesn't change the fact that fre & Hayate have feeling for each other..

And the one who started all of this WAS Hayate... he was the one who stalked Freyja (if you don't notice, watch the anime all over again from ep 1)

Anyway, here is a beautiful fanart about Freyja as an adult (around her 20s I think) ^^

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56795657
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Damn, what a fantastic episode!
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loved it ^^

it's very obvious that pairing is heading toward fre X hayate since episode 1.. and who are still in denial saying that its macross tradition, just don't want to face it..

No matter how is the ending is gonna be, it doesn't change the fact that fre & Hayate have feeling for each other..

And the one who started all of this WAS Hayate... he was the one who stalked Freyja (if you don't notice, watch the anime all over again from ep 1)

Anyway, here is a beautiful fanart about Freyja as an adult (around her 20s I think) ^^

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56795657


My thoughts exactly even if Freyja did die at the end ( which lets hope it doesn't happen ) or Hayate chose Mirage because of the "Macross Traidition" It doesn't change the fact that a beautiful bond grew between with Freyja and that he showed more love towards her then he ever showed Mirage.

Love the artwork btw it would be great if that was Freyja and the child she had with Hayate ^^
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lol at Lloyd. BEst scene ever

Lol if Roid & Bogue convert to idol otaku.
Bogue spamming microtransactions to not-cheap Reirei, nice ploy from Arad.
Ship building & songs were awesome this episode.
Fan service Makina actually has a good voice.
Some Hayate's dad (expected) & Mikumo (amnesiac orphan?) development were interesting. Big question remain why he dropped the bomb, and where does Mikumo's lost past lead us?
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Wild Speculation Time!

What if... what causing the Windermerian's life span to be short is an over exposure to some kind of radiation associated with all that Protoculture/Temple thing and maybe Hayate' dad got a glimpse of a research or classified documents and wanted to destroy the cause of all that but misjudged the consequences....

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Poor Freyja got cockblocked when about to confess lol. Hayate seems more and more aware of her. It was cute how she said that her rune has been pulsing since that moment on her birthday. XD

Bogueface during the concert was priceless, lmao, he was totally flustered by Reina.

Also next ep Freyja and Hayate seem to be talking to Qasim? Hmm, I can't wait to see what that's about.
+1

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Holy fucking shit
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