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The Empty Box and Zeroth Maria (light novel)

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Jul 7, 2015 6:55 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So Eusth started posting the final volume!
The battle between Kazuki and Aya is beginning!
I realise how much I've forgotten and maybe it's a mistake to read this without having re-read at least Volumes 5 and 6, but I just can't wait!

Also, the first chapter showed some happy moments (what a lie), and how the Rejecting Classroom would be without Maria. Now I realise how boring it would be. She's like a phantom character most of the time but she is what keeps this story going. The mystery is still on - I honestly have no idea how Kuzuki would manage to bring back Maria and save her. As O/Aya explained, it is kind of, a bit... impossible.

Jul 7, 2015 8:55 AM

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Kazu must "find" a "fragment" of Maria to be able to break out of this endless bittersweet cycle of an fake everyday life.
If my *THEORY* is correct than Kazu himself is the "fragment", which is needed to break out of this cycle, or to be exact, his "wish crushing" ability is what he needs to re-awaken. It's Marias "Fragment" in this never ending classroom.

What I wonder is: who actually created these wish granting boxes?
"O" didn't exist, before Maria got her Box "flawless bliss", just like there was no "savior". So somebody had to grant Maria a wish, so that she could get her box and "O" and the "savior" would start to be a thing.
I'm expecting a plot twist.

Haven't read past chapter 1 yet either (chapter 2-4 + epilogue aren't at Baka-tsuki yet, but hopefully will be in the near future).

Damn, if HakoMari would have ended with this chapter...who knows what I'd do.

Jul 7, 2015 3:51 PM

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BagelProductions said:
What I wonder is: who actually created these wish granting boxes?
"O" didn't exist, before Maria got her Box "flawless bliss", just like there was no "savior". So somebody had to grant Maria a wish, so that she could get her box and "O" and the "savior" would start to be a thing.

I haven't read the 6th volume since last year and I got confused as well.
At least I know I'm not the only one questioning that paradox.
I hope there's an answer for that in the final 3 chapters!

Jul 7, 2015 4:11 PM

BriKun

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O's existence was explained satisfactorily enough in Volume 5 :)

Passage from volume 5: [O is speaking]

Maybe volume 7 will go into more depth about how Maria discovered O :D

Jul 7, 2015 5:40 PM

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Finally saw an update earlier today on this. Wow. It's been almost too long.

Jul 8, 2015 2:26 AM

Bluuuue

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I wanted to wait for all the chapters to be released so I could read them all at once, then I was like "Meh, it's just a chapter". Worst idea ever.

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Jul 8, 2015 4:14 AM

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Bluuuue said:
Worst idea ever.

Indeed T_T

Jul 10, 2015 3:54 PM

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Was able to read the raw with whatever Japanese I can understand and.... It was definitively worth the wait and it's the first ending in a while that makes me feel completely satisfied. Looking forward to read the translation.

Speaking of which...

Jul 11, 2015 10:18 AM

BagelProductions

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KashKY...for no reason at all, just my gut feeling...you made me suspicious of mogi xD

Jul 13, 2015 2:38 AM

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KashKY said:
Was able to read the raw with whatever Japanese I can understand and.... It was definitively worth the wait and it's the first ending in a while that makes me feel completely satisfied. Looking forward to read the translation.

Speaking of which...

I'm scared....

Jul 27, 2015 2:32 AM

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Volume 7 is up, thank you EusthEnoptEron, I'll start reading it next week.

Jul 27, 2015 3:08 AM

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ALL HAIL TRANSLATORS! THANK YOU!

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Jul 27, 2015 6:10 AM

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Wooot!!!

Jul 27, 2015 8:12 AM

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BagelProductions

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I finally finished reading it... Man I was surprised...like the epilogue...
Thanks Eust for having translated this series till the end :)

Jul 27, 2015 9:21 AM

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HaXXspetten

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Finished it as well now~

I think that was about as good as it could have ended, both in terms of story progression but also in atmosphere

All in all... a fantastic ending to an absolute masterpiece of a light novel. Not sure what could possibly top this

Jul 27, 2015 9:47 AM

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That was everything I had been hoping it to be, personally I couldn't have asked for a better conclusion. What a ride.

Thanks to the translators and editors for getting it out so quickly.

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Jul 27, 2015 10:05 AM

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I always said vol 1 was the best. Not anymore

In just one night, I experience the thrill, the excitement, anger, disturbed, I got heart - breaking, and finally, happiness.

For anyone who haven't read it yet, just read it. If you want some spoiler, here goes

Hoshino_MariaJul 27, 2015 10:16 AM

Jul 27, 2015 10:31 AM

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I think we all agree that it was epic. The ending was much better than I have expected.

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Jul 27, 2015 11:04 AM

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I'll just quote myself, and I'm sure you guys can now understand how I felt:

So, I just finished reading the whole thing in a sitting, and I'm not going to spoil anything.

I'm satisfied.

For those who do want a harmless spoiler about the volume in general:

By the way, the epilogue made me a fan of Yuuri. What a wonderful manipulative b*tch. :D

Jul 27, 2015 11:35 AM

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HaXXspetten

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*hugs Eusth*

Thanks so much for everything ^.^

Jul 27, 2015 12:55 PM

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BriKun

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EusthEnoptEron said:

By the way, the epilogue made me a fan of Yuuri. What a wonderful manipulative b*tch. :D

That conversation between Iroha and Yuuri was beautiful! :D
It was the best slapsitck in the series by far.

Thanks for translating Hakomari all these years Eusth!

Jul 27, 2015 1:01 PM

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Dammit,what a ride it was.I thought nothing could top vol 1 but this one blew me away.Its definitely one of the best LN's ever.Thanks to the people who worked hard for translating this.

Jul 27, 2015 4:13 PM

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I think I'm gonna cry. It's like an epic journey come to an end or something. Thanks Eusth, thanks Mikage-san, thanks Maria, Kazuki, Daiya, thanks to everyone of this fandom that I have the honor to be a part of.

Jul 27, 2015 7:39 PM

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silmaril

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Dammit Yuuri.

Jul 27, 2015 8:12 PM

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barthos

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Ultimate ending for ultimate masterpiece

Rance X is A GOAT.

Jul 27, 2015 8:18 PM

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Littorio

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holy hell what a journey
i shed so many tears at the epilogue...

Jul 27, 2015 8:26 PM

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Cila

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A fantastic ending to a great series, I feel it fit extremely well thematically.

Jul 27, 2015 8:28 PM

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Stark700

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Whoa, entire volume 7 is out now. This is glorious.

Jul 27, 2015 8:42 PM

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meowbert

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What an amazing ending to what could only be described as a masterpiece. Hands down one of the best series I've read ever western or otherwise. Thanks Eusth for translating this so quickly and so well.

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Jul 27, 2015 11:43 PM

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PornSymphony said:
holy hell what a journey
i shed so many tears at the epilogue...

Same

Jul 28, 2015 3:52 AM

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Hoshino_Maria

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I want a wedding scene illustration, damn, I want one :'(

Jul 28, 2015 4:32 AM

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The ending is great. Although i am happy for Kazuki and Maria... I still want him to end up with Kasumi or Yuuri. :) dammit, multiple ships are hard to maintain... :D

Well atleast, Yanagi Yuuri is still pure. XD

Jul 28, 2015 4:49 AM

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Bang. Bang.
Bang. Bang.

EEE, thank you for this series. Because it's great.

Sweet-bitter, cry making ending. 10/10.

PS Can someone color this: https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/thumb.php?f=Hakomari7_t006.jpg&width=800 ?

Molek123Jul 28, 2015 4:56 AM

Jul 28, 2015 5:36 AM

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Molek123 said:
PS Can someone color this: https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/thumb.php?f=Hakomari7_t006.jpg&width=800 ?

I can't color it, but I made some nice avatars :D

http://i.imgur.com/a0iJqSI.png
http://i.imgur.com/yFISocE.png
http://i.imgur.com/pL2ubvx.png

And some sloppy cutting right here.
http://i.imgur.com/3916eUM.png

TheHollowShrineJul 28, 2015 6:10 AM

Jul 28, 2015 6:25 AM

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First of all huge thanks to Eust.

Just like Eust said, this volume is INSANE.

From start to finish the mixture of dark theme, madness, solitude, warm heart and emotional... everything just FREAKING AWESOME.

And that ending..... Nothing can beat that. So Beautiful.

The Epilogue....lol. Yuuri, can't believe i like her just because of that epilogue xD

Jul 28, 2015 8:56 AM

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TheHollowShrine said:

Molek123 said:
PS Can someone color this: https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/thumb.php?f=Hakomari7_t006.jpg&width=800 ?

Thank you for this. :)

Do you have some Yuuri Yanagi? :D

Jul 28, 2015 9:01 AM

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testamentKAISER said:
Do you have some Yuuri Yanagi? :D

There don't exist a lot of pictures of Yuuri, but I think this one's pretty nice:
http://i.imgur.com/idoeGZd.jpg

Jul 28, 2015 9:04 AM

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Godamnit!!!

That last volume is fucking awesome! Kazuki actually killed everyone like he said he would. We finally learn the story behind Aya Otonashi. Kazuki changed Maria and got her to give up her endless pursuit of another box. The burden of solitude made Kazuki lose himself. Damn this last volume had everything. And the epilogue is just beautiful. Definitely the best part of the volume.

And now we say goodbye to Maria, Kazuki, Daiya, Kirino, Usui, Mogi, Iroha, Yuuri, and O. This has been such a great ride. I'm definitely going to reread this again and again in the near future.

Jul 28, 2015 9:06 AM

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The last novel was fantastic, I loved it all.
Yesterday I was simply lucky to find that HakoMari's 7th volume had been finished translating on BakaTsuki by chance, just that one day I was thinking "Hm, maybe it's already done..." and it said that the PDF was finished on 7/27 so I was pretty happy about that

Got home from work at like 1 am and figured I'd read a couple pages before I go to sleep but I just got hooked on reading it, didn't finish until around 4 am

The epilogue was great and Maria's part made me cry too

I really want an anime adaptation really badly :c

Are you from Japan? Cause I'm trying to get in Japanties.

Jul 28, 2015 9:14 AM

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EusthEnoptEron said:

testamentKAISER said:
Do you have some Yuuri Yanagi? :D

There don't exist a lot of pictures of Yuuri, but I think this one's pretty nice:
http://i.imgur.com/idoeGZd.jpg

Omg! Yuuri and Kasumi!?!?! Wow.....
Thank you!

Jul 28, 2015 9:18 AM

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Wth, eusth replied to me...?

Hmmmm,
Maybe HanaKana is waiting at my apartment, cooking some delicious food for me. XD

(Thank you again for the translations. :D )

Jul 28, 2015 9:30 AM

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A great conclusion to the series.
Without a doubt my favorite light novel.
I prey for an adaption but doubt any studio can pull it off.
I honestly don't know what to do now that its finally over.....

Jul 28, 2015 9:34 AM

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So, I barely ever post here but I guess I'll make an exception for this.

Reading this volume was simply an incredible ride. I laughed, I cried, I was angered and filled with joy.

I was amazed at how minor details from volume 1 were brought into the story such as the peppermint smell.

Lastly, I think there is one sentence that describes Maria better than any in the chapter "1st time" of volume 1. "but I am not strong." this is immediately followed by a short description that perfectly shows up how she was going to act at the end of volume 7.

Hakomari was a meticulously crafted story that was captivating from start to finish and, because of that, I can easily say that it has become one of my favorite works of fiction ever.

Jul 28, 2015 9:52 AM

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I'll spare me all the words and just say I'm grateful for having been able to read this.
I couldn't have ever wished for a story(and an ending) more perfect than this.

Jul 28, 2015 10:29 AM

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finished read it few hours ago, feels like my long wait for the translations really worth it. if i can rate this 11 i'll definitely give that, for this is literally the best story i've read ever. thanks Eust for translating this :)

Jul 28, 2015 11:11 AM

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Boom! HakoMari went up from 9.15 to 9.16!
I can't wait to see it on first place. After such a satisfactory ending...

Jul 28, 2015 11:19 AM

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TheHollowShrine said:
Boom! HakoMari went up from 9.15 to 9.16!
I can't wait to see it on first place. After such a satisfactory ending...

Inb4 it starts getting downvoted by trolls.But seriously though,it needs more people to read it.

Jul 28, 2015 11:21 AM

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HaXXspetten

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laidellent said:

TheHollowShrine said:
Boom! HakoMari went up from 9.15 to 9.16!
I can't wait to see it on first place. After such a satisfactory ending...

Inb4 it starts getting downvoted by trolls.But seriously though,it needs more people to read it.

I don't think it has enough readers to manage to surpass Berserk but I could definitely see it getting 9.20 or so in a few months

Jul 28, 2015 1:40 PM

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That was amazing ride from volume 1 to the ending of the series. Really glad I read this. Thank you to the translator. It been my favorite and now finally finished it.

Jul 28, 2015 5:27 PM

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Bluuuue

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Me at Kazuki's epilogue

BluuuueJul 28, 2015 5:30 PM

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