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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- The secret is out, who is the Outer Moka, why does the Rosario react to Tsukune, and finally the end of the Dream world. |
--ALEX--Sep 6, 2010 12:25 AM
alexcampos said: The secret is out, who is the Outer Moka, why does the Rosario react to Tsukune, and finally the end of the Dream world. A very amazing chapter, now I can't wait for the next chapter :P The things that have been revealed and the situation got really excited for what will happen in the future chapters. |
| Oh ... Shit ... That was sad ... Really sad ... x_x |
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| I don't know what to think, ever since I began to read R+V, it quickly became one of my favorite manga and Moka (primarily outer Moka) instantly became my favorite anime/manga character. I don't just mean my favorite R+V character, I mean my ALL TIME favorite character EVER!!! I always thought that the worst thing that could happen to your favorite character is for him or her to die, but this is pretty high up there. Outer Moka is a fake being, almost like a program or an illusion, even though we still have inner Moka, it's not the same, outer Moka was the main character, she was a big reason why so many of us like R+V. It's going to be very interesting how the manga moves on from this, especially Tsukune, he literally seems like he can't go on, the person he has deeply loved all this time is not real, and even though he might have some feelings for inner Moka, it's not as strong as it is for outer Moka. |
| hm,,, this will be a heartbreak and action,, wondering how long this manga will be,, like season 1 10vol or more,, i hope for more |
| i am going to be the i the one with the biggest manga pocket collgection url=http://myanimelist.net/animelist/enerjak&sclick=1]  [/url] |
| Great chapter, i feel so sad for Moka who got through this. It's going to be tough for Tsukune too. I really wonder how the situation will evolve, with the incoming fight with the Miu family and the meeting between the two sisters. With chapter like this one, the manga keeps improving. |
| wow this is so shocking nice one ikeda but sad T_T the outer moka is a fake personality i didnt think of that route T_T but thinking back its true that if there is a split personality there is a original personality and the other personality/s are all just a defense mechanism to protect the heart of the original and another think a stuff that that stayed on me is that what the old fart said about kurumu i hope her powers progresses much better i am kind of interested because of what he said i thought of it before that the dream arc wouldnt end in this chapter but seeing they are going out and the battle is breaking i thought the arc ended then tsukune at the end want to see what happens i think he will meet outer moka next chapter |
| Saddest chapter of teh manga.. >: |
 When the rosario on her chest is taken off, Moka's vampire inner self awakes.  |
renjikuchiki1 said: this chapter is better then the rest of the second series put together... so much emotion.... its because this is the highlight of the season |
girlsdeadmonster said: i mean she had to come from some were and she is kind of a reflection of the inner moka's honest self since she is a tsundere This is what I've thought about for a long time, a split personality is usually just just an alter ego which has its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with it's surroundings. However, outer Moka always seemed to be the dominant personality, it always seemed that inner Moka was the aggressive side which was "sealed", but the fact is that it's the other way around. Maybe Outer Moka really is the honest self of inner Moka, and maybe at the end the two will MIX and form into one single person. Either way, at the moment it's very sad, I treat Outer and Inner Moka like two different people, I rarely see them as the same, and it's going to be weird from now on. |
| OMG -----------Tsukune -----------You -----------Spineless -----------Piece -----------of -----------shit Overreacting turd. GRRR |
| A good chapter, I quite enjoyed it. Tsukune really is pretty pure, he just totally gives up on life after finding the love of his life is a fake person. LOL |
| Great chapter. Finally some questions answered. I guess the two personalities will merge now though I wanted Tsukune to win over Inner Moka on his own (by protecting her or some other heroic shit) and not due to feelings of outer merging with inner. Great thing Tsukune stayed behind (he'll come back in the middle of a fight when all other hopes are lost). This manga should have been monthly. Its too hard to wait for a whole month after getting just 34 pages. |
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| Really liked this chapter. It's sad to see outer Moka referred to so simply as a fake personality, but it's not totally unexpected (still bummed though). I've been really pleased with how interesting the manga has been getting lately. Hope it keeps up. |
| ^^ Well I get your sarcasm, but the revelation was still a bit of a surprise since the majority of people thought outer Moka was Akasha. However to find out she was "MAN-MADE" is completely different as compared to a Split personality. A split personality is created by the person's sub-conscious, we all thought Inner Moka had created outer Moka in order to seal her vampiric powers, if that had been the case, then we could say that Outer Moka is "NOT FAKE", but an "alter ego" a more humble, girlish side of her personality, even though she may not be 100% real, but she's definitely NOT FAKE, she's a "part" of the real Moka. HOWEVER, now we find out that Akasha pretty much MADE outer Moka with the rosario, in other words outer Moka might not have anything to do with inner Moka, that means: She's NOT a split personality She's NOT Human or Vampire She's NOT a physical being that could exist in the real world. To me this is a BIG revelation and a BIG importance to how this series moves on, whether or not it seemed obvious that she was a fake, absolutely nobody treated outer Moka like a being that was "man-made", before this revelation. |
--ALEX--Sep 7, 2010 9:03 PM
| Tsukune you weak hearted dumb ass. Seriously putting everyone else in danger because you feel like having a mental break down. Also Outer Moka and Inner Moka communicate with each other all the time and when one is out the inner self at that time always knows whats going on, so really even if she is a fake personality it's not like Inner Moka doesn't feel the same way the Outer Moka feels about a lot of things. Also even if she is a fake she's still alive and she has feelings that developed after she was made that couldn't of been predetermined feelings. So Tsukune's releationship with her is still real. |
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| Interesting to know about Moka's personality. |
| I don't like flashbacks...or flashback-like flashbacks. |
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| It was very obvious...the most sad part is what will happen to the outer Moka later on. I hope Tsukune pull through, can't wait for the next chapter. |
| Really can't wait for the next chapter! A fight between 2 families and the future of Moka. BTW, Tsukune already knew the 2 characters inside Moka and it seems the inside Moka also like him and he reacted in someway ? Guess the 2 Moka-s will merge into 1,so there'll be no problem ? can't wait or guess anything better .. |
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| Great chapter, we now know about Moka´s personality. |
| Wow, I never expected outer Moka to be fake. |
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| lol i cant believe tsukune does not know about this fake personality -_-, it was obvious that pink-hair moka is just somekind of alter ego -_- he thought that she has somekind of schizma :d, well anyway now i know why she has this rosario ;p |
| well tsukune's lost all will to live, whose the next main character? |
the only way to stop a gamer from playing is either: beat them, or wait until they get bored (though 2% percent suffer seizures  |
kage-bunshin said: well tsukune's lost all will to live, whose the next main character? Gin??? |
alexcampos said: kage-bunshin said: well tsukune's lost all will to live, whose the next main character? Gin??? If this is the case, End this manga now please. |
Sucrose said: alexcampos said: kage-bunshin said: well tsukune's lost all will to live, whose the next main character? Gin??? If this is the case, End this manga now please. Well, that was a joke, but I'm sure the mangaka will come up with a solution to this great problem. |
alexcampos said: Sucrose said: alexcampos said: kage-bunshin said: well tsukune's lost all will to live, whose the next main character? Gin??? If this is the case, End this manga now please. Well, that was a joke, but I'm sure the mangaka will come up with a solution to this great problem. He might be a pervert but don't underestimate his badassery. |
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| I'm new. So I haven't read the previous threads, but just curious, am I the only person who realized that Tsukune Shinso level too? Tsukune received a blood transfusion from Moka, whom received a blood transfusion from Akasha (Shinso)! Making him a Shinso as well. I knew that there was more to his powers than just ghoulness.. my prediction is; probably in the midst of darkness, tsukune will awaken his Shinso powers (assuming shinso powers are awakened by strong feelings), he'll awaken Alucard (hes blood is also linked to Alucard), and thus we have another boss. :DD Or Moka's soul or something related to that will save him.. |
NeahWalker said: I'm new. So I haven't read the previous threads, but just curious, am I the only person who realized that Tsukune Shinso level too? Tsukune received a blood transfusion from Moka, whom received a blood transfusion from Akasha (Shinso)! Making him a Shinso as well. I knew that there was more to his powers than just ghoulness.. my prediction is; probably in the midst of darkness, tsukune will awaken his Shinso powers (assuming shinso powers are awakened by strong feelings), he'll awaken Alucard (hes blood is also linked to Alucard), and thus we have another boss. :DD Or Moka's soul or something related to that will save him.. nice idea!:P i was thinking of that too. I think the little moka in the dream thing will safe him:P i just think it will.... anyway i think moka inner/outer will be one and maybe we see tsukune and moka finally kiss.... but i think they get interrupted again:P I also guess this is the last season.... if they make another one i think the story takes too long, but that could be because they are still develop the manga:P (I'm impatient:P) |
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| Before this arc started, I loved R+V, it was definitely getting a 9 or a 10. Now, it's probably one of the top mangas/LN I've read. It is so interesting, these new revelations that is, and now I'm so curious as to what will happen next. Now I'm addicted to this manga, thankfully I don't have to wait a month before reading the next chapter. |
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