Watashi no Shiawase na Kekkon 2nd Season Episode 3 Discussion

@patkarunungan I don't think she has regressed but more so isn't progressing as much as I would like. She is legit kissing the feet o a person who has no interest in her and is outright shitting on her. What I don't like about this even if it was in the LN is that you are having the main character go through the same character arc again. That is just bad writing and makes me seem like the writer doesn't understand drama and character progression. Miyo doesn't have to be a "girlboss" but she can t least tell this lady to fuck right off.

Also that rationale and reasoning for why Furyu is a super bitch for no reason because Miyo isn't from a well off family is fucking stupid as hell. "Here work as a servant so I can show power over you and control you." That's legit just emotional abuse. You ain't humbling no one but are going on a power trip.Miyo hasn't been made immune if she is apologizing and going along with this bullshit. I like this show and you're just being a fan but let's not defense extremely poor writing.

@MasterHavik



That's literally what I said and we both agree. What I had in mind are some people who thought she regressed.




Unlike when she started, she believes she can handle her. She is not doing this out of helplessness.




I was also worried about this. But when I read it as well as watched it, how Miyo reacts to this arc compared to when she was in the Saimori estate is night-and-day different. This is why I've learned to appreciate what this arc is supposed to do in the grand scheme of things.



I admit I don't consider myself a good judge on the specifics of good writing or not. But Miyo has great 'character progression' and since this season will be rushing the story — it will cover volumes 3 to 6 — this will be clearer at the end of the season.

I can see that you've only seen Episode 3 when you made this reply. People are already seeing progress by Episode 5, and I'm sure they will love Miyo's progress in Episode 6, let alone at the end of the season when she had to....



You're contradicting yourself. That is the definition of being a girlboss or at least someone with a strong personality.

It's challenging for Miyo to display such behaviour due to her weak personality. The good news is that she eventually did. Just watch the following episodes.



What are you talking about? Compared to peasants, the Saimori family is well off, which is why Fuyu was expecting someone like Kaya who is so spoiled.

You may be thinking that the Saimori family relative to the Kudou family is not as prestigious. That we can both agree.



Again, Fuyu was assuming that she is dealing with someone full of pride. Hence, she felt justified with her actions. This is why I said that her stated purpose is to 'humble' this person. But she did not know that Miyo is not the prideful person she thought she was. Miyo had so much shit in the Saimori household. As such, whatever ordeal Fuyu tried to inflict doesn't hold candle to the abuse she had experienced.

I can agree with you that Fuyu's actions have gone beyond humbling the other person. It's bordering on emotional abuse, and perhaps emotional abuse itself.



I disagree. When I wrote she was immune, I was thinking of her soul not being crushed by the ordeal. Also, whatever physical tasks she is subjected to in the Kudou villa is not as difficult compared to what Miyo was subjected to in the Saimori household. In that context, I say that in a sense, Miyo has become immune to the ordeal. The anime has not made this point clear, but it's clear in the LN.

I can agree with you that Miyo's habit of apologising and 'going along with this bullshit' is something that she better leave behind.



I am defending this show from people who did not understand the point of this arc. Perhaps this point needs to be tatooed in their dicks. If the old Miyo felt helpless and hopeless when she was treated as a servant by the Saimori family, the Miyo in this arc is doing this gladly. Contrary to Fuyu's expectation that Miyo's soul will be crushed, she gladly went through it thereby winning the admiration of the servants in the Kudou household.

Now, both of us may not agree with Miyo reprising the role of a servant. I agree it's not needed had her personality been strong enough not to go along with it.

The point is, and this should be incontrovertible, there is a contrast between Miyo back then and Miyo now.

@patkarunungan Line by line. Overall thank you for the kind respond.

Anyone saying she is regressing don't know what they're talking about.

I get that but you gotta have some self respect for yourself.

I'll wait until I get to the recent episode to see if that is how I feel. I want to see if that opinion holds.

Yeah, I'll be catching up before the Super bowl. I'm currently watching the newest episode of Medalist and then I'll blow through the next two episodes to be fully caught up. I was behind on this one as since I'm finishing a Masters I can't pick up a ton of anime.

No that isn't what a girlboss is. Having a backbone doesn't make you a girlboss. Fujiko form Lupin is a girl boss from the start she makes clear she won't be push around and she can take care of herself. What I want from Miyo isn't to slap her and curse her out but to say, "Yeah....I'm not doing that." She can even say, "Respectfully ma'am I came here to enjoy my time in my lover's home and his family. I'm not here to do any work." She can simply say no thank you. I'm not contradicting myself here but a simple no does wonders here. That would show progress that she isn't a pushover. I'm happy to see this is being address and she isn't that. I'm not expecting her to be Fujiko or Ada Wong but an Ashley from Re4 Remake or a Sherry from RE6 isn't asking for much. You can write soft spoken women who are still strong emotional so they aren't being shove around. I'm just being fan of active main characters who are not relying on others who are strong rather it be mentally and physically.

OH right that is what I meant. I know her family isn't poor but she is legit treated like a commoner like Rei from I'm in Love with a Female Villianess anime was. I know it's the time period as wealth status and nobility were big during that time.

This doesn't help either but in the English dub she legit tells her son, "Hey when you bring her around here next time have more control of her." Look, I know it is the time period but the show and has established and made clear that Lord Kudo doesn't see Miyo as an object. She isn't a pet for her to speak like that is just awful. All the credit to Fuyu's VA in the dub as she did a good job playing her but holy shit that is so scummy and to play happy music and to see him smiling is just awful as she legit just compared your lady to a pet.

I don't know the discourse of season 1 of Miyo in season 1 but to me I got all of that was something for her to overcome as they were her enemy to defeat. I didn't knock Miyo here as she was legit dealing with a lot of abuse. Like season 1 did a good job taking the angle of the abuse story. I get what you're saying is that she is gladly accepting but a better way to show growth here is for her to politely decline and kill her with kindness. Like she was able to get slap for simply enjoying cleaning. That isn't right. I don't see the difference but an awful trying the evil mother angle but forgot to write the part Miyo checks her ass to where she learns maybe she is being too stuck up. We shouldn't have scenes of her being called into her room just to be retarded for simply existing. I look forward to the future episodes to see if this is address.

1. Thank you for you response. I don't know some of the characters you mentioned but I get the main point. I know Fujiko.


2. The English subtitles had her saying to Kiyoka, "Next time, when you bring her here, I want to see her more confident." I am appalled at that line from the English VA.



To be fair, it's an anime original line to compensate for the omissions.

I remember in the LN after the exorcism, Fuyu asked Miyo,
I can't remember Miyo's reply but she was quite humble and respectful.


3. In a way, what you want and what the anime Fuyu want is the same: for Miyo to be confident and grow a backbone.