Why are there so many cringe incest shippers?

@Puntosmx Bruh... What the hell are you blabbering on about? @Zarutaku and I were having a civil discussion about the reason why most people find incest in general to be wrong.

Don't get it twisted... I love Oshi no Ko and many other shows that feature incest. It's just that the incest aspect is something that I, and many others dislike. It's still a masterpiece of a show and it's not going to stop me from watching it but don't sit here and act like "turn offs" don't exist. I'm 100% sure there are some cliches that you dislike too so stop coming at others over their own preferences.

@DigiCat I wasn't referring to abortion above, but yes if the couple doesn't want to have a child, it's better to not conceive it, that's obvious.
However, if their love is strong enough to want to have a child and they are aware of the increased risks & possible consequences, then they should be free to do so, because it's their business. Saying that they should be forbidden to create new life, because there's an increased risk of increased suffering, is a form of selective antinatalism, but whether that's also common sense is probably one of the core points in this matter, and my stance is that forbidding the creation of life is a fundamental violation of basic rights.

@JadeHoxen I don't mind if other dislike incest or anything else, unless they start talking condescendingly like the OP of this topic, then it might happen that I retort.

It is not their buisness anymore if they knowingly put a child at risk! Part of being a parent is putting your child's needs before your own, if you aren't capable of taking that responsibility and go into things with the mantality of "well it's my buisness, if i want to do it i should be free to do it" then you are too immature and selfish to even begin to think about becoming a parent!

@DigiCat Maybe we should just ask the children of consensual incest couples if they prefer to be alive or never be born, if the majority answers the latter, then I might change my mind.

@Zarutaku Like i said in one of my previous replies, i never said the pregnancies should be terminated once they are concieved, that doesn't change the fact that to concieve an incest baby in the first place is irresponsible and selfish

To use another example, most kids who were born in abusive enviroments still prefere to be alive than never be born, that doesn't mean they can't acknowledge their parent/s is/are fucked up

In that way, yes, in a perfect world, in which incestous relationships exist, but only perfectly consensual ones, I would agree with you. Sadly in our deeply broken reality, people will cause harm with any justification they can get, the legalization of incestous relationships would give new ground to some of the worst people in your system. People don't live by laws, they only follow the image they project, and in this case, that image is one of incestous tranquility, even though all the grooming and abuse is something that is generally still connected to incest in the minds of the people. There will be some, who see this as the end of civilization and there are going to be those, that abuse this new system, a small minority that will be used as justification for a backlash. All I see in this scenario are angry masses, people that lived in incestous relationships, against the law but happily, who are now the target of hate crimes, even more abused children and a new hot topic for shitty conservatives to scream about. We might one day be able to have this change peacefully, and when that day comes, I will be on your side in this debate, but right now this is a futile cause, and there are other things to fight for.

@DigiCat It's not irresponsible and selfish to create new life if the parents take proper care of the children, but if they neglect or even abuse them that's another story, so your counterexample of abused kids is kind of absurd. If simply having an increased chance of the child suffering more than average is reason enough for a criminalization, that's already a slippery slope of forbidding various types of people to procreate, such as those with genetic deficiencies, women in their 40s and many other types of people like those in extreme poverty. Gladly this slope hasn't been fully entered yet, but for some reason most people aren't consistent in this matter and insist on the arbitrary double standard of only criminalizing inbreeding while allowing all the other "irresponsible and selfish" types of procreation.

Well, your argument against incest in Oshikko revolves all around the real world and its effects on real humans, so you are the one mixing scenarios.

While a good show makes you care about the characters treating drawings like humans is not a good practice.
It is as toxic as people attacking actors on social media or the street because they hated the characters they portrayed.

@Zarutaku What proper care? The parents already failed to give proper care when they knowingly concieved a child who has a high risk of birth defects and will have a lowered immune system

Proper care starts when you decide to have a kid, not once the kid is born

Extream poverty is a completely different story, extream poverty means higher child mortality rate, which means they will do like many have done in the past, procreate as much as possible so as some will survive, that is survival, and yes there might be a crule aspect to it, but to stop it it's not only the kids who need help, it's everyone, this is a case where people need help, criminalizing childbirth in places with abject poverty will only lead to the extinction of those populations

Its pure and cute. It's literally the greatest trope in fiction because you have two people who are partaking in an OBJECTIVELY good and OBJECTIVELY pure form of a relationship while the entire world is trying to stop them.

It is toxic because those characters ARE NOT humans.
They are not alive.
They don't have human rights.
They don't get pregnant.

Anyone who treats a fictional character like a real human needs to sort a few things with the psychiatrist.

Because there are so many blue-pilled normies who think incest is cringe.

Neither, it's you.

use punctuation dude because your sentence sounds like you're ironically denying being omniscient instead of what you're actually trying to say.

I bet you wouldn't have paid incest any mind if it was accepted by the current society, wouldn't you?
I actually don't see what's wrong with incest besides the problems that may arise with reproducing. I also don't find it weird for humans to be attracted to the opposite sex, especially if the second party isn't necessarily a sister but rather a cousin whom you've met for like 6 times in your entire life. That person is basically a stranger. Therefore, I kindly invite you to come up with arguments backing your point.

who said it's mandatory to reproduce? If that's what y'all mean by incest then this show doesn't have any incest, since there's no fucking.
Yes, the same argument will be applied. If they've been divorced since forever and the siblings barely meet then romantic feelings are not unlikely to arise. Besides, just as another dude in here said, the problems that come from reproducing are uncommon for the first generation. And its funny because you said something quite contradictory, "make people blind to that" blind to what? the thing they accept?

@Zarutaku There's something funny about how the anime community, in just 10 years, has gone from being a gathering of people of culture to being a place of people who are literally shocked by imouto shipping.