| As far as I understood all FMP's are regular mecha craps, but FMP: Fumoffu is supposed to be something more suitable for my liking, is this correct? If yes, can I watch Fumoffu as a standalone show, or are all of them connected? If they are connected and I'll have to watch through hours of painful mecha bs, does it et least have a happy ending? If they are connected, in what order do I watch them? FMP>FMP 2nd Raid>Fumoffu makes sense title-wise, but judging from the description here, Fumoffu takes place somewhere in the time line of the original FMP, if that's correct then FMP>Fumoffu>2nd Raid makes more sense. Besides all those questions any additional info would be very appreciated. |
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| Correct order is FMP > FMP: Fumoffu > FMP: TSR. Just watch the first series so you know the cahracters and how things ended up like this. The first 6 episodes of FMP have quite a few funny moments too boot. Also I know you hate mecha action but TSR is tight as fuck, if you don't like the twins hand to hand fighting scenes just wow. Also actually develops a few characters really well. |
| So I must watch the original FMP (which is crap, yes?) and then I can watch Fumoffu and skip 2nd Raid, is this correct? You didn't say if I'll even like Fumoffu though, cause I heard somewhere or from someone that I might/will like it, but I'm not sure. I think I'll go make the exactly same thread on AN, it has a higher population. |
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| Can i,personally,watch FMP and FMP :TSR without watching Fumoffu though? xD Groove,Fumoffu has some kind of strange comedy,as i heard and I was told to stay away from it,but i dont know much about your taste to figure if you will like it :x But probably you will do,hehe :P |
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Suiseiseki_85 said: Can i,personally,watch FMP and FMP :TSR without watching Fumoffu though? xD Groove,Fumoffu has some kind of strange comedy,as i heard and I was told to stay away from it,but i dont know much about your taste to figure if you will like it :x But probably you will do,hehe :P I made an exactly same topic on AN, you better ask this question there, it's simply more active so we will probably get a faster answer there then here. Edit: That is, after you vote on my poll :devil:. There are like 10 people who're active in this forum, yet only 3 voters. Vote even if you don't read it, so I'll know where I stand. |
GrooveFeb 13, 2008 10:08 AM
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| I hate mechs too but i loved FMP all three seasons. The first two are particularly funny though and TSR gets more serious (there are still some funny moments too). Fumoffu had some really hilarious episodes, and some were a little more strange than funny. Prolly one of the funniest anime episodes i have seen was the extra OVA about Tessa's 'normal' day. As for a ending, it is more like a semi-ending cause they plan to continue the story but yeah, its happy. |
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| Fumoffu is hilarious I don't know why anyone would want to skip that, same with TSR :\ |
| Anyway now that I have time to actually construct a halfway decent response I'll do so now. I feel that FMP along with Code Geass is the best mecha shows to show to people who don't like mecha. I never felt the mecha action in FMP ever dominated it as much as say any Gundam show. I mean ignoring the mecha episodes would be like not watching any of the fights in Kaze no Stigma/Shana and just watching everything else. FMP is based on a light novel series, now this series like many other ones starts of rather light hearted and with lots of comedy moments. Now as the plot picks up things obviously get serious and this is a pattern nearly every anime follows. The thing is the author of FMP also does side story novels which were also very popular. I'll quote myself from ANN me said: For the remark you said in the spoiler you should be aware that The Second Raid episodes 5-13 were covering the FMP Light Novels Volume 8 and 9. Episodes 1-4 were written by the original author of the FMP novels to fix up something Gonzo did at the end of the previous main series. FMP Light Novels is currently up to Volume 19 IIRC so it's not really left unresolved in the anime since the anime is like only halfway through.... Volumes that are considered part of the main plot are; 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 15, 17 & 19. Volumes that are considered side stories are; 2, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16 & 18. I think you're missing out if you skip TSR, it has great action scenes (mecha and hand to hand/guns) and character development (for Kaname and Sousuke) and the only thing that stopped me from giving it a ten was how the last fight ended. I mean this type of ending is used so much but I didn't expect it from something I had considered a certain 10 for the majority of the series. If you can watch all of Code Geass you can watch all of FMP. Kira_Aso when you watch the first 6-8 episodes of the original FMP if you find them funny I highly recommend you watch Fumoffu. |
Westlo said: I mean ignoring the mecha episodes would be like not watching any of the fights in Kaze no Stigma/Shana and just watching everything else. With the only difference that you can't compare regular action to mecha action, but I got your point. I think you're missing out if you skip TSR, it has great action scenes (mecha and hand to hand/guns) and character development (for Kaname and Sousuke) and the only thing that stopped me from giving it a ten was how the last fight ended. I mean this type of ending is used so much but I didn't expect it from something I had considered a certain 10 for the majority of the series. See, you say great action scenes and I assume that a lot of them are mechas and only some are hand2hand/guns, so basically it got a lot of what I'm not interested in. If you can watch all of Code Geass you can watch all of FMP. Yep, I was able to watch all Code Geass! *Have an extremely proud look on his face*. But seriously, Code Geass wasn't entirely bad.. I enjoyed the first episodes and kinda bared with the middle ones.. I think it really became unwatchable from the point when Lulu ordered Yuphie to execute all the Japanese.... Other then that particularly forced event, I can summarize the whole reason of Code Geass crappiness in one pic;  This God damn dumb pussyass Nazi Judenrat son of a bitch mofo ruined this otherwise not so bad series. |
GrooveFeb 14, 2008 7:38 AM
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| C'mon, admit you're looking forward to seeing him die next season like nearly everyone else. Though I have to admit I liked his attitude better after his princess die, he stopped being a Kira clone and actually started to be a bad ass. He's picked up a cape (+10 badass points lol) for season 2 and looks very antagonistic in a few preview screens. With the only difference that you can't compare regular action to mecha action, but I got your point. It's really no problem for me but where do you draw the line though? Bubblegum Crisis mecha or not? The Major from GITS Mecha or not? Refer to the AMV I linked below, the 1:50 minute mark where the two twins get to work. She jumps into a mecha and uses it's machine gun to decimate the soldiers. Now is this scene somehow better if she jumped into a gun turret instead because the gun turret isn't mecha? See, you say great action scenes and I assume that a lot of them are mechas and only some are hand2hand/guns, so basically it got a lot of what I'm not interested in. Off the top 80/20 mecha/non mecha action scenes. Just watch this amv, god those twins rocked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xywXFisfe1I&feature=related Seriously the reason why TSR is held in much higher regard compared to the original Gonzo series is Tighter storyline and no crappy fillerish episodes Massive amounts of character development Action scenes are 50x better KyoAni's animation, i still consider TSR the best animated mecha series to date. Now I feel like rewatching TSR :\ |
WestloFeb 14, 2008 8:00 AM
Westlo said: C'mon, admit you're looking forward to seeing him die next season like nearly everyone else. Honestly? Yes, I might watch the 2nd season just to see Lulu mutilate his sorry ass. I didn't get your Kira comparison, I assume you meant Light right? He's nothing like Light, Light rocked. It's really no problem for me but where do you draw the line though? Bubblegum Crisis mecha or not? The Major from GITS Mecha or not? Never seen Bubblegum Crisis, and only seen GITS original first movie and no, it's in no way mecha. It's one of the first anime movies I've ever seen, and I'm still a huge fan. It's just pure awesomeness. Off the top 80/20 mecha/non mecha action scenes. Just watch this amv, god those twins rocked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xywXFisfe1I&feature=related I'll watch the amv a bit later but 80/20 is definitely not something I'm looking forward to. |
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| No no no, Suzaku = Kira at least until 24+25 + Second Season. How are you fine with Mokoto fighting that tank yet hate mecha action period? I know mecha haters who would consider that scene "mecha". That's what I mean by where do you draw a line... 80/20 was just an off the top figure, I haven't seen the show since it got fansubbed back in 05. That amv seems to be a lot more slanted towards the non mecha fights so i may have got that figure wrong. It's at least 60/40 and at most 80/20. The very first fight scene in that amv is what made me take notice of KyoAni, not Haruhi like the majority of people. But really just watch the first series and go from there, if you give a shit about the characters at all and like to see character development than watch TSR. |
Westlo said: How are you fine with Mokoto fighting that tank yet hate mecha action period? I know mecha haters who would consider that scene "mecha". That's what I mean by where do you draw a line... How is this mecha? The robot is not huge (he's not even in the size of a decent truck), and Mokoto is humanoid.. Perhaps we have different definitions of mecha, or I got a wrong one which is also possible considering my low experience in the subject but for me mecha is; "Big-ass robots being piloted by humans" aka this, this or that. But really just watch the first series and go from there, if you give a shit about the characters at all and like to see character development than watch TSR. Yeah, definitely. I'll watch the first few eps few eps of FMP! if I'll like what I'll see I'll finish it, if not, I'll go and watch fumoffu. Then I'll decide if to watch 2nd Raid or not. |
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| I don't consider GITS mecha but I know some people who do and sure Mokoto is a humanoid but she's not exactly made of skin and bones... Also I'll be very surprised if you don't at least like the first 6-8 episodes of FMP. |
| Hahaha read through the an thread for this, I get the feeling Levon wants to fight you after reading that thread Groove lmao. I can picture him swinging a punch and yelling "THIS IS FOR MECHA!!!!". |
Westlo said: Hahaha read through the an thread for this, I get the feeling Levon wants to fight you after reading that thread Groove lmao. I can picture him swinging a punch and yelling "THIS IS FOR MECHA!!!!". You haven't read the thread Gundam 0080 I get it? You should look for it, I was basically eaten alive for not liking mecha there. The guy has serious issues concerning mecha, it's like even the slightest thing bad said about mecha pisses him off, turning him into berserk warrior spamming "OMG WTF U'RE BIASED MECHAS ARE TANKS!!11!" |
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Groove said: As far as I understood all FMP's are regular mecha craps, but FMP: Fumoffu is supposed to be something more suitable for my liking, is this correct? Sorry to be late the the thread, but here's my oppinion. Fumoffu is stand-alone in the sense that the storyline (or lack thereof) is not directly linked to either the first season (FMP!) or the third (FMP!TSR) so you don't really need to watch the other season's in that respect. There is also little or no "mecha" content in Fumoffu. If you watch it without having seen the first season, though, you miss out on some of the backstory and the early development of the relationship between the two main characters (Sousuke and Chidori). I know you are not a particular fan of "mecha" but you should be aware that FMP! is hardly a typical mecha show. There is a lot of slap-stick and a strong romantic comedy element of the relations between Chidori, Sousuke and a third character named Tessa. So, while Fumoffu is pretty much all comedy, there are still plenty of laughs in the other two seasons. If they are connected and I'll have to watch through hours of painful mecha bs, does it et least have a happy ending? |
mdaubenFeb 16, 2008 8:19 AM
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| Done with FMP!. It was a lot better then I expected it to be, I still like Gunparade better but there was definitely a lot of enjoyment in FMP!. Episodes that rocked; 1,2,3,8,13,14,18. Good episodes; 9,10,19. Decent episodes, 4,5,6,7,20,21,22,23. Not really good episodes; 11,12,24. Bullshit episodes; 15,16,17 (WTF WHO CARED ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT). Notes; Last arc (episodes 21-24) was too long, could have been 2 episodes easily without giving me the "get it over with" feeling. Episodes 15,16,17 should be removed, who cares about giant robots fighting in Afghanistan, seriously... The animation was so-so. Specially the action (both real and mecha), the drawings just didn't move smooth enough and didn't give the overall feel of good action. Mao kicks ass :D |
GrooveMar 25, 2008 9:09 AM
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| You should like Fumoffu a lot and you should at least be able to appreciate what TSR does. |
| Since this is sorta mecha thread anyway, has anyone seen Infinite Ryvius? Is it worth downloading? |
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| IR is probably the best example I've seen of developing a large cast in 26 episodes. I'm sure a few characters will piss you off but they're suppose to. There is a few scenes that might make you blink and something I found out this year made me go WTF.. anyway the mecha isn't the focus of the show, it's definitely the characters, check it out. |
| Hmm.. I don't know why but your description does not sound that tempting :D. I'll try to check it out sooner or later though.. Which one did you watch, KAA or a4e? I think I'll be getting KAA. |
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| I think it was baka-anime but this is like back in 2003. |
| I know all that, that's why I said KAA or a4e. What you forgot to point out, is that even though they're both dvd-rippers, KAA's rips are usually much better in pretty much everything (video, audio, timing). |
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| Finished FMP Fumoffu!. Great stuff :D, I don't think it can go as a standalone though, you really need to know the characters backgrounds and personalities from the first FMP! in order to really enjoy Fumoffu!, since it throws all the cast without any introduction building on the fact that we already know who's who and what's going on. I wish it had more of Tessa and Mao though :D |
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| PONY The rugby team episode was pretty hilarious. Mao's drill instructor manual ftw lol |
DazarGaidinApr 12, 2008 11:41 AM
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ChandraNalaar said: At least FMP1 had GARoun, and TSR was almost as epic as Code Geass. I hated Garoun.. he just never died, and there wasn't much about him, he was evil for the sake of being evil. He also was the one who triggered most of the mecha action which didn't help. Besides, if you didn't see Sousuke flirting, yakuza members running around in Bonta-kun (? go figure) suits and Chidori's yukata fanservice, you didn't watch FMP! :D I also heard/read that in the manga, Kurz and Mao have sex, damned animators, they never know which parts to animate.. |
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ChandraNalaar said: Well, FMP1 was LOL GONZO. And I've never been a fan of pure fanservice shows to begin with, which Fumoffu practically defines. Fumoffu was "pure fanservice"??? Its been a while since I watched it, but I can't off the top of my head remeber much of any real "fanservice" in Fumoffu (other than the disintegrating clothes episode). As I remember, it was mostly non-stop, over the to, slap-stick comedy. Hardly a "pure" fanservice show IMO. |
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ChandraNalaar said: Fanservice does not solely apply to T&A, mate. I am quite aware of that, thank you, but I still stand by my original statement. Unless you consider *anything* except straigt up plot and character development to be fanservice, I still don't see Fummofu as a "pure fanserive" show. It's just that it's quite hard for me not to take a Gundam-esque show seriously.... well, except Code Geass. That's fine if you don't care for it becuase its not serious, but "not serious" isn't the same thing as "fanserivice" in my book. <shrug> |
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| I agree with mdauben, Fumoffu wasn't about fanservice. Even the said event of Chidori wearing yukata did not come as a fanservice but as part of the plot. p.s. Tessa kicks major ass, ditz are almost as hot as tsundere. |
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| You know kurz was gonna hit that. He even told ya so "One of these days im gonna make you claw at my back!" lol I havent read the manga yet but now i am tempted too. The scene where he was wishing for a camera in the sub....mao was really hot :P THere wasnt a lot of fanservice in fumoffu, but to be fair there was a spa episode (HILARIOUS) and even worse the 'chemical agent' episode that somehow destroyed clothing but nothing else :P |
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| Continuation of the mecha semi-ot. Eureka Seven, worth getting? |
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Groove said: Continuation of the mecha semi-ot. Eureka Seven, worth getting? It's like softcore NGE. |
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| Absolutely horrifying description :scared:. |
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