Apparently,Disillusioned Adventurers Will Save the World (light novel)
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Jan 18, 2023 2:02 AM
#1
I was really hype for this anime since i read the light novel and it was really good one. But then the first episode drop and it's disappointingly bad, all the backstory feel so flat and force. Even though the back story is crucial and the anime absolutely butchered it. But i kinda ignore it and keep watching, then episode 2 drop, the animation is again, flat and sometimes just still images during fighting scenes, it was awful. Even though the third episode didn't do as bad as second episode did with it's animation. It's still kinda disappointing. Even though for me this series is probably among few 'good' fantasy LN. |
Jan 18, 2023 2:10 AM
#2
Considering your opinion on LNs I'm not going to take you seriously |
Jan 18, 2023 2:15 AM
#3
I'm gonna be honest. When I first saw the studio and staff, I was quite positive, that it will be a complete garbage. Yet was still positively surprised. Writing is kinda subpar and some characters are just idiots, but animation, especially character designs is actually very good. |
Jan 18, 2023 2:23 AM
#4
From my pov, I'm so disappointed in everything I've seen so far, i could've dropped this 3rd ep but it was the best one out of the 3 and it was SOMEWHAT decent although for general anime standards that's simply not good at all. |
Jan 18, 2023 6:35 AM
#5
What did you even expect a collaboration between Geek Toys and a hentai studio lmao This is pretty much a one man show by the Director tho, pretty much all the scenes with actual animation is by him |
Jan 18, 2023 7:58 AM
#7
this new generation is weak af... just cause it's not a ridiculous strobe of flashing lights doesn't mean it's bad animation. |
Jan 18, 2023 4:22 PM
#9
I feel like the second episode was better on the whole but otherwise I agree. It would be nice if it gained its footing as it goes but so much of the internal conflict being able to trust others and reckon with their own flaws seems to be missing. |
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Jan 18, 2023 7:32 PM
#10
Ehhhh, its pretty low budget. Feels like powerpoint at times. Sound mixing is uneven as well, the narrator can be quite loud for example. ED is nice and catchy though. Added to my playlist and it made me curious about the show. Then I looked at the quality and nope. |
Jan 19, 2023 7:09 PM
#12
RabbitBeardy said: I was really hype for this anime since i read the light novel and it was really good one. But then the first episode drop and it's disappointingly bad, all the backstory feel so flat and force. Even though the back story is crucial and the anime absolutely butchered it. But i kinda ignore it and keep watching, then episode 2 drop, the animation is again, flat and sometimes just still images during fighting scenes, it was awful. Even though the third episode didn't do as bad as second episode did with it's animation. It's still kinda disappointing. Even though for me this series is probably among few 'good' fantasy LN. I agree that so far, the anime is pretty disappointing but I don't have a problem with the animation. I can tolerate bad animation but I thought the pacing is pretty wacky. I don't know about the light novel since I don't read it so I don't know if the anime butchered it or not. |
Jan 19, 2023 7:59 PM
#13
Why would anyone expect good animation from Geek Toys and Seven? |
Jan 24, 2023 10:06 AM
#14
I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. |
Jan 24, 2023 1:35 PM
#15
Im not the type of guy who cares about animation, it could barley have any animation and i would still enjoy it, the only thing that would stop me from enjoying a series is either if the characters is unlikable and/or if i don't have somewhat of an interest in the story, so basically what i mean is, it's fine for me. |
Jan 24, 2023 4:40 PM
#16
Just watched episode 3 and the part where the guy walks past Curran into the shop and it's supposed to be this cool slow motion scene... except whoever worked on it doesn't know shit about animating slow motion... or even people apparently... so the guy just sort of floats with his arm out for a few seconds and then jiggles up and down a bit? |
Jan 24, 2023 4:55 PM
#17
Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. watch them walk down the stairs in the labrynth literally 3 mins in, that's probably the worst animation I have ever seen |
Jan 24, 2023 5:17 PM
#18
I was kinda enjoying this but the animation in ep 4 was straight up abysmal. Multiple re used shots, a solid minute of people standing with their mouths agape and that ridiculously bad walking scene at the end to top it all off. I'll keep watching but wow that was bad |
Jan 24, 2023 5:36 PM
#19
how is this disappointing? I'm laughing my ass off at the walking animations. |
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Jan 24, 2023 6:49 PM
#20
RabbitBeardy said: This is like "Trapped in a Dating Sim", shit animation/shit studio but the story (while not being perfect) is something new and different. People gave Mobusekai a chance so they should give this show a shot to impress us too.I was really hype for this anime since i read the light novel and it was really good one. But then the first episode drop and it's disappointingly bad, all the backstory feel so flat and force. Even though the back story is crucial and the anime absolutely butchered it. But i kinda ignore it and keep watching, then episode 2 drop, the animation is again, flat and sometimes just still images during fighting scenes, it was awful. Even though the third episode didn't do as bad as second episode did with it's animation. It's still kinda disappointing. Even though for me this series is probably among few 'good' fantasy LN. |
Jan 24, 2023 7:13 PM
#21
Hey, look, the anime that made by the so-called "greatest anime studio in the world" GEEKTOYS contains some bad animations? What a surprise! billybub said: I was kinda enjoying this but the animation in ep 4 was straight up abysmal. Multiple re used shots, a solid minute of people standing with their mouths agape and that ridiculously bad walking scene at the end to top it all off. I'll keep watching but wow that was bad Why are you so surprised when GEEKTOYS has done more bad stuffs than good ones? Lol |
MahiaErebeaNegiJan 24, 2023 7:36 PM
Jan 24, 2023 8:28 PM
#22
dakuda330 said: Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. watch them walk down the stairs in the labrynth literally 3 mins in, that's probably the worst animation I have ever seen OK. Every series has its drawbacks, it is normal. |
Jan 24, 2023 8:33 PM
#23
Memores said: dakuda330 said: Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. watch them walk down the stairs in the labrynth literally 3 mins in, that's probably the worst animation I have ever seen OK. Every series has its drawbacks, it is normal. look bud, I watch almost anything. animation Is almost never a complaint of mine, but this show had literally nothing going for it, it's a chore to watch, the story is done terribly, the animation is done terribly, defending this show is just as bad as defending "the detective is already dead". it's below mid. |
Jan 24, 2023 10:17 PM
#24
dakuda330 said: Memores said: dakuda330 said: Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. watch them walk down the stairs in the labrynth literally 3 mins in, that's probably the worst animation I have ever seen OK. Every series has its drawbacks, it is normal. look bud, I watch almost anything. animation Is almost never a complaint of mine, but this show had literally nothing going for it, it's a chore to watch, the story is done terribly, the animation is done terribly, defending this show is just as bad as defending "the detective is already dead". it's below mid. I understand. If you don't like it, then don't watch it. It is simple. |
Jan 25, 2023 3:58 AM
#25
I was able to tolerate the animation being less than stellar until episode 4, but it's getting to Biscuit Hammer levels at this point. |
Jan 25, 2023 6:07 AM
#26
MahiaErebeaNegi said: Hey, look, the anime that made by the so-called "greatest anime studio in the world" GEEKTOYS contains some bad animations? What a surprise! billybub said: I was kinda enjoying this but the animation in ep 4 was straight up abysmal. Multiple re used shots, a solid minute of people standing with their mouths agape and that ridiculously bad walking scene at the end to top it all off. I'll keep watching but wow that was bad Why are you so surprised when GEEKTOYS has done more bad stuffs than good ones? Lol Honestly never heard of GEEKTOYS let alone watched anything by them prior to this. But I guess shitty animation is their MO |
Jan 25, 2023 7:43 AM
#27
billybub said: Honestly never heard of GEEKTOYS let alone watched anything by them prior to this. But I guess shitty animation is their MO Can't blame you for not knowing them since it was pretty much a no name studio that only recently raises it's popularity thanks to DAL IV (The only anime with consistently good quality they've done so far, and even then it's a little bit chunky in some scenes lol). |
MahiaErebeaNegiJan 25, 2023 7:57 AM
Jan 25, 2023 1:21 PM
#28
yes, the animation is dragged sometimes and done with lazy motions. The story in anime looks meh tbh, I am about to drop it for now. |
Jan 25, 2023 2:24 PM
#29
Dublis91 said: I have like zero conplaints with the animation Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. If you don't care about it or like the show despite of it, that's perfect, but I really have to ask: how can you not see anything wrong with it? Since episode 1 the quality is less than average, and I'm not speaking only about animation, composition and perspective are way off on many occasions. |
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Jan 25, 2023 2:51 PM
#30
It's a shame because I like the characters, but the production really isn't good at all. I think it's likely something's gone wrong at the studio making this. |
Jan 25, 2023 8:32 PM
#31
joexmdq said: Dublis91 said: I have like zero conplaints with the animation Memores said: I don't see anything bad in animation of this series. I like it. If you don't care about it or like the show despite of it, that's perfect, but I really have to ask: how can you not see anything wrong with it? Since episode 1 the quality is less than average, and I'm not speaking only about animation, composition and perspective are way off on many occasions. I know it. In the fourth episode there was problem with characters movements when they went down the stairs, I noticed it. Despite all these shortcomings, I enjoy the series and intend to watch it. |
Jan 27, 2023 10:03 AM
#32
Yo. Did any of you peep episode 4 and the shot where the Survivors were descending a flight of stairs? The way Nick and Zem's legs were animated has to be the most unnatural thing I've ever seen. Their feet weren't even aligned with the steps! Usually, I'm bad at noticing goofs in animation, but this series makes it pretty easy. Lol Guess I'll switch over to the source material. |
Jan 27, 2023 1:43 PM
#33
forget the animation how about how they fucked up the story! the first episode they speed run main guys story making nowhere near as sad feeling as the manga did. also episode two they cut out all the character building while in the dungeon. episode three they don't show nearly how close to death dragon girl was and all the great details behind her surviving.......this show is an ultimate let down, everyone I got to try it cause I told them it should be good cause the manga is good has dropped the show. this show and evolution fruit have been the big disappointments which is saying something cause both while yes mediocre anime and manga. they have a charm about them that makes me like them so much more. but S2 evolution fruit and Ningen here suck ass. |
Jan 30, 2023 7:34 PM
#34
My god that walking animation is hilarious. I think Ex-Arm might've had better walking animation. Don't get me wrong I don't hate this show, but it really stuck out like a sore thumb here. Wtf is going on here though? Date-a-Live IV was done not that long ago by this studio. Are these new covid issues really effecting everything this much? |
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Jan 31, 2023 4:17 AM
#35
HarryBallsagne said: Nope, GEEKTOYS was ALWAYS this bad. DAL IV (And DAB to an extend) was just simply lucky enough to be keep things consistently. Almost every single anime they worked on are almost as bad if not worse than this: My god that walking animation is hilarious. I think Ex-Arm might've had better walking animation. Don't get me wrong I don't hate this show, but it really stuck out like a sore thumb here. Wtf is going on here though? Date-a-Live IV was done not that long ago by this studio. Are these new covid issues really effecting everything this much? |
MahiaErebeaNegiJan 31, 2023 4:27 AM
Mar 21, 2023 12:10 PM
#36
dakuda330 said: Comments like yours are so miserable, somehow it encourages me to defend this show even if I didnt watch it. I have bad news for you snowflake, people dont really give a f about what you want. look bud, I watch almost anything. animation Is almost never a complaint of mine, but this show had literally nothing going for it, it's a chore to watch, the story is done terribly, the animation is done terribly, defending this show is just as bad as defending "the detective is already dead". it's below mid. |
Mar 22, 2023 4:48 PM
#37
MahiaErebeaNegi said: DAL had external producers put more resources into it so 100% they would bank on it being well received otherwise they would have a reputation as worse as marvey jack. Since DAL IV and DAB were "successes", it gave them more bargaining power to adapt more ln series.HarryBallsagne said: Nope, GEEKTOYS was ALWAYS this bad. DAL IV (And DAB to an extend) was just simply lucky enough to be keep things consistently. Almost every single anime they worked on are almost as bad if not worse than this: My god that walking animation is hilarious. I think Ex-Arm might've had better walking animation. Don't get me wrong I don't hate this show, but it really stuck out like a sore thumb here. Wtf is going on here though? Date-a-Live IV was done not that long ago by this studio. Are these new covid issues really effecting everything this much? But the studio for the most part is ridiculously small and new The DAL franchise like basically any kadokawa produce light novel franchise is in turmoil itself. Publishers generally don't care for smaller ln series as long as they find as studio willing to do it |
Mar 22, 2023 7:55 PM
#38
RabbitBeardy said: where are you read light novels?I was really hype for this anime since i read the light novel and it was really good one. But then the first episode drop and it's disappointingly bad, all the backstory feel so flat and force. Even though the back story is crucial and the anime absolutely butchered it. But i kinda ignore it and keep watching, then episode 2 drop, the animation is again, flat and sometimes just still images during fighting scenes, it was awful. Even though the third episode didn't do as bad as second episode did with it's animation. It's still kinda disappointing. Even though for me this series is probably among few 'good' fantasy LN. |
Mar 26, 2023 11:43 PM
#39
I don't get it. The animation quality in this show was distractingly bad at times. I come here to see what studio made it, and I have never heard of GeekToys. I see what else they have made, and I am surprised that I have seen several of them. None of their other shows were this bad. What gives? |
Mar 27, 2023 9:17 AM
#40
shaolintech said: You seriously thought Plunderer aren't bad? LolNone of their other shows were this bad. |
Mar 28, 2023 6:23 PM
#41
Honestly I don’t mind the animation. It’s the plot it’s all over the place, there’s no character back stories they are all rushed into half a episode for all the characters. They introduce new characters without showing a real connection then move one after one episode. I really liked the idea of this anime. 4 adventurers who lost faith in humanity that go on adventures and learn to trust each other and in the end become close. Instead they are in the same town the whole time. Introduce a bad guy each episode and they overcome it individually or with half the group. There’s no teamwork and no flow. I stopped watching episode 4 and came back and at episode 7 I’m wondering what the heck happened. I’ll eventually finish it for the sake of finishing it. But they completely bombed this one. Harem in the Labyrinth in another world had better storytelling, flow and character development and it’s basically a hentai. |
Apr 19, 2023 6:20 AM
#42
Yeah, when I saw Nick just moving through air without even moving his dagger, while enemies screamed and dropped dead it was obvious that action in anime is no good and I have to look for something else in this anime to make it through. |
Jun 24, 2023 4:36 AM
#43
Maybe i not read novels like RabbitBeardy from 1st post but i am more manga reader. I know this manga version and liked it even if some threads was not good. BUT anime adaptation? This is POOR, LOW BUDGET, given to some APPRENTICES directors and animators to allow them get anime experience. This is my imperssion about this anime. I have hopes after knowing manga but yet again i was dissapointed, even more that after "Tensei Kenja no Isekai Life: Dai-2 no Shokugyou wo Ete, Sekai Saikyou ni Narimashita" That epic scene when heroes goes down on stairs to dungeon help me drop this anime make by amateurs or students-in-learn. |
Feb 20, 2024 4:26 PM
#44
Reply to MahiaErebeaNegi
HarryBallsagne said:
My god that walking animation is hilarious. I think Ex-Arm might've had better walking animation. Don't get me wrong I don't hate this show, but it really stuck out like a sore thumb here. Wtf is going on here though? Date-a-Live IV was done not that long ago by this studio. Are these new covid issues really effecting everything this much?
Nope, GEEKTOYS was ALWAYS this bad. DAL IV (And DAB to an extend) was just simply lucky enough to be keep things consistently. Almost every single anime they worked on are almost as bad if not worse than this: My god that walking animation is hilarious. I think Ex-Arm might've had better walking animation. Don't get me wrong I don't hate this show, but it really stuck out like a sore thumb here. Wtf is going on here though? Date-a-Live IV was done not that long ago by this studio. Are these new covid issues really effecting everything this much?
@MahiaErebeaNegi studio is irrelevant. Dal season 4 onwards is almost entirely funded by hot game studio. This means all dal profits goes to hot game studio, not kadokawa. |
Feb 21, 2024 5:11 AM
#45
Reply to DEMSpirit
@MahiaErebeaNegi studio is irrelevant. Dal season 4 onwards is almost entirely funded by hot game studio. This means all dal profits goes to hot game studio, not kadokawa.
@DEMSpirit And your point.......? It still doesn't change the fact that 85% of GEEKTOYS' anime suffered a lot in terms of quality. |
MahiaErebeaNegiFeb 21, 2024 5:14 AM
Feb 21, 2024 5:27 AM
#46
Reply to MahiaErebeaNegi
@DEMSpirit And your point.......? It still doesn't change the fact that 85% of GEEKTOYS' anime suffered a lot in terms of quality.
@MahiaErebeaNegi geek toys did not produce dal iv onwards and neither did kadokawa. The anime is almost entirely funded by hot game studio. Meaning they deal with providing resources and arranging direction. Aka they own the franchise and all profits go to them. Geek toys is just the studio and kadokawa the publisher. Kadokawa largely treats most of their anime as cheap pv, especially now that oshi no ko is like outgrowing almost everything they have. |
Feb 21, 2024 7:04 AM
#47
Reply to MahiaErebeaNegi
@DEMSpirit And your point.......? It still doesn't change the fact that 85% of GEEKTOYS' anime suffered a lot in terms of quality.
@MahiaErebeaNegi anime production quality is decided by the producers not the studio. There is a reason csm looked amazing and hell's paradise couldn't match it. Cuz mappa funded csm completely and were heavily invested it similiar to jjk. Kadokawa often handles anime poorly and often makes decisions by how much money can the show make for them. They marketed the filler filled konosuba spinoff as anime of the season. They believed konosuba viewers will throw endless amounts of cash at them. Konosuba viewers voted with their wallet and boycotted. As a resulted the spinoff bombed with a 90% bd loss from season 1 and 2. Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series had the new producers not taken over. |
Feb 21, 2024 11:59 AM
#48
People keep talking about GeekToys, but the majority of the animation work here was actually made by Se7en. |
Feb 21, 2024 3:52 PM
#49
Reply to DEMSpirit
@MahiaErebeaNegi anime production quality is decided by the producers not the studio. There is a reason csm looked amazing and hell's paradise couldn't match it. Cuz mappa funded csm completely and were heavily invested it similiar to jjk.
Kadokawa often handles anime poorly and often makes decisions by how much money can the show make for them. They marketed the filler filled konosuba spinoff as anime of the season. They believed konosuba viewers will throw endless amounts of cash at them. Konosuba viewers voted with their wallet and boycotted. As a resulted the spinoff bombed with a 90% bd loss from season 1 and 2.
Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series had the new producers not taken over.
Kadokawa often handles anime poorly and often makes decisions by how much money can the show make for them. They marketed the filler filled konosuba spinoff as anime of the season. They believed konosuba viewers will throw endless amounts of cash at them. Konosuba viewers voted with their wallet and boycotted. As a resulted the spinoff bombed with a 90% bd loss from season 1 and 2.
Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series had the new producers not taken over.
@DEMSpirit Translation: GEEKTOYS did absolutely nothing wrong and everything was Kadokawa's faults for GEEKTOYS' several failures in their projects. Not saying Kadokawa was completely innocent but I failed to see how the studio don't have any blame to take considering their history up until DMDP was mediocre at best (There's a reason why some people called them D-tier studio). Is it really that hard for people to acknowledge that maybe, JUST MAYBE, their favorite studio is not really the greatest anime studio ever exists that can absolutely do everything justice as they believes the studio are? DEMSpirit said: Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series Half correct, but you also have to remember that DAL III was in production and released around the time when J.C Staff took way too many projects and overworked their animators to no end with questionable production schedule (Does this sounds familiar to you?). Remember the whole OPM 2 and Index III fiasco? |
MahiaErebeaNegiFeb 21, 2024 3:59 PM
Feb 21, 2024 5:34 PM
#50
Reply to MahiaErebeaNegi
@DEMSpirit Translation: GEEKTOYS did absolutely nothing wrong and everything was Kadokawa's faults for GEEKTOYS' several failures in their projects.
Not saying Kadokawa was completely innocent but I failed to see how the studio don't have any blame to take considering their history up until DMDP was mediocre at best (There's a reason why some people called them D-tier studio).
Is it really that hard for people to acknowledge that maybe, JUST MAYBE, their favorite studio is not really the greatest anime studio ever exists that can absolutely do everything justice as they believes the studio are?
Half correct, but you also have to remember that DAL III was in production and released around the time when J.C Staff took way too many projects and overworked their animators to no end with questionable production schedule (Does this sounds familiar to you?). Remember the whole OPM 2 and Index III fiasco?
Not saying Kadokawa was completely innocent but I failed to see how the studio don't have any blame to take considering their history up until DMDP was mediocre at best (There's a reason why some people called them D-tier studio).
Is it really that hard for people to acknowledge that maybe, JUST MAYBE, their favorite studio is not really the greatest anime studio ever exists that can absolutely do everything justice as they believes the studio are?
DEMSpirit said:
Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series
Kadokawa was the main producer for dal iii and reason it had animation issues and they tried to cram vol 12 as a way to end the series
Half correct, but you also have to remember that DAL III was in production and released around the time when J.C Staff took way too many projects and overworked their animators to no end with questionable production schedule (Does this sounds familiar to you?). Remember the whole OPM 2 and Index III fiasco?
@MahiaErebeaNegi whoever funds the anime gets executive decisions, related profits, etc. It is 100% kadokawa or one of its subsidiaries (dengeki, fantasia, mf bunko) fault. The director, studio etc is just the fall guy. The producers wanted a studio quick and willing to under budget the production. Hot game studio took over the production committee after dal iii finished. Judt check wikipedia or the iv or v official website. Since they fund the entirety of the anime, they now get all the profits. Dal made geek toys famous so they could get more talent, offers, contracts. But dmdp, ningen, liar liar etc obviously don't have the same high end producers. Kadokawa no longer lists dal on their reports not because dal isn't profitable (it clearly is to go on that long) but because they have effectively lost most of the rights to the franchise. Similarly saekano, primary producer was aniplex, not kadokawa. Therefore it had high end production values and was a box office hit. Kadokawa has mishandled a lot of their properties. Konosuba spinoff bombed hard because kadokawa thought japanese fans would blindly throw 40k yen at 12 filler episodes just because they had megumin. They sold under 1k discs which lost them massive amounts of money. Now kadokawa has to re-release konosuba s1, 2, movie discs and old figures. |
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