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Apr 23, 2023 9:31 AM
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Ionliosite2 said:
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Ufotable staff said itself that this is the best animation that they produced. And the staff has much better knowledge regarding this topic than you have.
So you simple proved that that you know nothing about animation.

KnY is the top currently.


Please, if you are so sure they said that, please link me the interview or whatever where they said that. And even if it was true, and Kimetsu was the top of Ufotable it still wouldn't be the top of the last 10 years alone.
It is certainly doesn't prove that it's in the top, but it proves that anything you said is certainly not true, because you couldn't even recognize this. Therefore anything you say, for example, how it is not the top, is not true, because you don't have the knowledge.
https://in.ign.com/demon-slayer/179739/news/demon-slayer-producer-promises-animation-will-reach-new-heights-in-upcoming-season

It is a fact that KnY is the top currently. The old shows are not in the competition, because of the old technology. For example, yes, FMAB or FLCL had a good animation, but it cannot compete with the newest animations. So automatically like everything disqualified that is older than 4-5 years old.

Even if there was something outstanding animation-wise, like Zaregoto in 2019 when KnY S1 aired too. You could still see the difference in animation.
Apr 23, 2023 9:40 AM

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ktg said:
It is a fact that KnY is the top currently. The old shows are not in the competition, because of the old technology. For example, yes, FMAB or FLCL had a good animation, but it cannot compete with the newest animations. So automatically like everything disqualified that is older than 4-5 years old.

Even if there was something outstanding animation-wise, like Zaregoto in 2019 when KnY S1 aired too. You could still see the difference in animation.


Ok, the part where you say that old animation cannot compete with current animation is like a big joke, FLCL is better animated than literally everything Ufotable has done up to and including Unlimited Blade Works, Ghost in the Shell is filled with extremely detailed and intricate animations with multiple techniques that almost nothing has replicated since, Akira has more fluid action scenes filled with extremely detailed scenaries than anything you have mentioned. The idea that "old = bad" is something only someone who doesn't know about the technical aspects about animation would say, because from what I get here, you think flashy digital effects are all that makes up good animation, which is completely wrong.
Apr 23, 2023 5:00 PM

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i watched one episode of it. it looks great, but its not mob 2 or mushoku tensei.

and if we include movies akira and redline are so above it its not even comparable.
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Apr 24, 2023 12:27 AM
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Ionliosite2 said:
ktg said:
It is a fact that KnY is the top currently. The old shows are not in the competition, because of the old technology. For example, yes, FMAB or FLCL had a good animation, but it cannot compete with the newest animations. So automatically like everything disqualified that is older than 4-5 years old.

Even if there was something outstanding animation-wise, like Zaregoto in 2019 when KnY S1 aired too. You could still see the difference in animation.


Ok, the part where you say that old animation cannot compete with current animation is like a big joke, FLCL is better animated than literally everything Ufotable has done up to and including Unlimited Blade Works, Ghost in the Shell is filled with extremely detailed and intricate animations with multiple techniques that almost nothing has replicated since, Akira has more fluid action scenes filled with extremely detailed scenaries than anything you have mentioned. The idea that "old = bad" is something only someone who doesn't know about the technical aspects about animation would say, because from what I get here, you think flashy digital effects are all that makes up good animation, which is completely wrong.
This is pretty hilarious, but before that. I studied 2d and 3d, even studied other parts of filmmaking, but that's not important right now. So, now we clarified that you were lying again, let's talk about your idiocy.

First, I've never said that "old=bad", you have to be pretty stupid to interpret it that way.
Second, you are mixing the animation style and technique which is pretty rookie mistake. To give you an example. No oen replicated Code Geass style, but still, they used the same techniques as other shows. You are talking about styles and not techniques.
Third, even if they didn't replicate something, it's not because they can't. Yes, we can create cars that were produced 70 years ago, but it cannot compete with the new models. It's the same. But even if we say, they can't, that still does not explain why those shows should be better, because we've never seen any show that replicated, for example, Houseki no Kuni, but still, animation-wise it had its mistakes.
Fourth, you think that more techniques equal better shows. While I can show you shows with the traditional 2d technique and Ex-Arm with 2d and 3d techniques. With you logic Ex-Arm should be better, which is pretty stupid. :)

A 70 years old car will be slower and less comfortable, it has its strong points, but all in all, it can't compete with the newest top technology, and that is a fact.
Apr 24, 2023 9:51 AM
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TheSongWriter said:
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Well you are partially right.. Tybw is so far one of the best looking animes and we are talking about visuals not the actual animation even so demon slayer never had best animation to begin with it has only few sakuga moments but the CG makes up for it.. Even Tybw has very less sakuga moments due to less availability of staff.. If we are talking about visuals then bleach tybw is par with demon slayer so I can say the compositing is fabulous in bleach and it was the only thing that carried tybw except ep 1,6,7,10(partly) 





i personally think that while the compositing was very good , the effects sometimes felt too on the nose as there were very minimal sakuga action sequences
Demon Slayer has consistently amazing animation in both action and non action sequences
Only time it may feel dull is during the comedic moments but that's more of a problem of the story and dialogue rather than the production
some other anime which i forgot to add are mob Psycho 100 and one punch man S1
Well logically Demon slayer doesnt have too much sakuga moments and in order to show fluid movements in fight CGI is heavily blended.. If I see as a pov then I'd feel Demon slayer has a little better animation and effects while Bleach is just second to it.. But in reality at the end animation doesnt really matter much.. It isnt necessary to insert sakuga every episode i can just enjoy visuals and compositing.. I think thats what Bleach lacks.. Demon slayer particulalrly doesnt have consistent animation but heavy CGI slacking off some frames to blend in 2D making it look like actual  2D animation 
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You must not have watched many anime then. Like, I think Bleach looks great, but it's not particularly unique in that regard. Also the CGI during the Yamamoto and Yhwach fight knocked it down a few tiers in my opinion.
Apr 25, 2023 4:22 AM
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hellphoenix2005 said:
TheSongWriter said:

i personally think that while the compositing was very good , the effects sometimes felt too on the nose as there were very minimal sakuga action sequences
Demon Slayer has consistently amazing animation in both action and non action sequences
Only time it may feel dull is during the comedic moments but that's more of a problem of the story and dialogue rather than the production
some other anime which i forgot to add are mob Psycho 100 and one punch man S1
Well logically Demon slayer doesnt have too much sakuga moments and in order to show fluid movements in fight CGI is heavily blended.. If I see as a pov then I'd feel Demon slayer has a little better animation and effects while Bleach is just second to it.. But in reality at the end animation doesnt really matter much.. It isnt necessary to insert sakuga every episode i can just enjoy visuals and compositing.. I think thats what Bleach lacks.. Demon slayer particulalrly doesnt have consistent animation but heavy CGI slacking off some frames to blend in 2D making it look like actual  2D animation 

demon Slayer does have sakuga moments (a lot of them)

you're gonna have to rewatch the show if you think otherwise
Apr 25, 2023 8:31 AM
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TheMaXIM said:
Idk bout you, but i believe as far as i watched, Bleach TYBW is the best looking anime of all time, being followed by Mob Psycho and Jujutsu Kaisen (We don't care about Anime Movies, we're talking about anime series here). Don't mind that I'm a huge huge bleach fan and it's one of my childhood favorite animes, I'm being critic here. Hbu? What do you think is the best looking anime?
TheMaXIM said:
Idk bout you, but i believe as far as i watched, Bleach TYBW is the best looking anime of all time, being followed by Mob Psycho and Jujutsu Kaisen (We don't care about Anime Movies, we're talking about anime series here). Don't mind that I'm a huge huge bleach fan and it's one of my childhood favorite animes, I'm being critic here. Hbu? What do you think is the best looking anime?

C'mon bruh u have fate anime in your list and u saying bleach is the best looking anime.....
Fate ubw negs bleach in animation quality
Apr 27, 2023 2:02 AM
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TheSongWriter said:
hellphoenix2005 said:
Well logically Demon slayer doesnt have too much sakuga moments and in order to show fluid movements in fight CGI is heavily blended.. If I see as a pov then I'd feel Demon slayer has a little better animation and effects while Bleach is just second to it.. But in reality at the end animation doesnt really matter much.. It isnt necessary to insert sakuga every episode i can just enjoy visuals and compositing.. I think thats what Bleach lacks.. Demon slayer particulalrly doesnt have consistent animation but heavy CGI slacking off some frames to blend in 2D making it look like actual  2D animation 

demon Slayer does have sakuga moments (a lot of them)

you're gonna have to rewatch the show if you think otherwise
Hmm you are wrong.. May I suggest a video tho if you can find any flaws you can still ask me.. I can enlighten you with the knowledge..
I remember watching why Demon slayer season two is badly animated but since Aniplex had striked on his video he was forced to take it down but I can still provide a video of how Ufotable works 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQD6VbQtego
Apr 27, 2023 4:57 PM
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Another ignorant OP who hasnt done enough research about animation. how many naimes did you watch, if we talk about animation not fights sequence, bleach was not even the best in the fall season, CSM and bocchi animation were way superior, when it comes to fight scenes, recently just DS2 and MST have better animation , shit like summertime rendering and wonder egg have better animation too. 

IF we are gonna talk about popular shonen , even in 10 years nothing will come close to the perfection that OPM 1 WAS. nephew nowadays have the worst opinions.
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Yes, one of. I'd rather watch a goatshounen like Bleach than some overrated elitist stuff.

May 1, 2023 8:38 AM
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Definitely one of the best
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