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| I'm glad that sweet-tooth Heine and usurpated Hiruko found peace. |
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Fenlix said: Am I the only one disappointed with Shide? He behaved like a bland and uninteresting antagonist in the last two episodes, was he always that generic? Also, his motivation is literally garbage. Honestly these last episodes has been the worst part of the serie in my opinion, I just dropped the score from 8 to 7 because of them. I guess it's because they were more "shounen-ish" I find that the purpose of shide fits very well with the narcissistic personality of the character and the theme of the manga. The theme of the manga is the acceptance of the loss of what is dear to us and the different ways to be confronted with it. Example : Shinpei who must stop running away from painful ordeals such as the death of Ushio or his parents by his ability to step back and must accept to make painful choices (which he will do as the series progresses by taking more and more initiatives). Except that Shide instead of accepting that his dream is not achievable to see the end of the world (because of the fact that Hiruko can't give birth anymore), by egoistic and narcissistic desire, he will try to realize it in a diverting way (which will lead him to his loss). We started with two characters who were in denial except that one evolved and the other remained in denial quite to put the whole world in danger of extinction. Just because it's cliché doesn't make it a bad villain. Don't just stop at the form. |
| Great episode. Ushio and Shinpei/Ryuunosuke's fight against Shide was memorable. After his defeat, Haine and the group finally managed to change everything and return to where it all began. One more episode and I already miss this series. |
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| Wow What an Amazing Final Battle between Shinpei vs Shide. It's been really a long long 3 days. Holy Damn it comes back full circle, so that's how Shinpei got the eye the first time but also now? even though Hiruko in the past already dead? how Shinpei got the eye again then? if that so Ushio should be alive because they already killed Hiruko in the past, therefore no more Evil Haine that become Shiori that kill Ushio right? God damn this time travel shit confusing me. My Brain.... This is one of those Anime that will give you more experience when you rewatching it again. |
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luskinea said: meu amigo... nem dá pra descrever Ninguém aqui entendeu o que você disse. |
| This definitely felt like a final episode, but thankfully it’s not lol. The final battle with Shide was really cool, Ryuunosuke and Shinpei working together to stall time for kiddie Ushio, I loved when Shide pulled out the Arisaka with a Bayonet attachment lol, and the final moment when Shinpei went for the shotgun and he took the shot with Ushio behind him was amazing, Shide finally being defeated was satisfyingly as well, the unbeatable final boss is no more. And then we’re flashed back to the past where Haine originally fused with Hiruko, to which Ushio erases the beached whale which deletes the fetus Hiruko, which was a little sad but I don’t feel that bad lol. Then we see a heartfelt goodbye from Shadow Ushio before she remakes the timeline, and then we’re back where the show started, in Hizuru’s booba lol. Getting to see what all has changed in this timeline will have to wait till next episode, but I am really happy just knowing Hizuru is alive in this one lol. And since this saga finally ends next episode, I’ll say it’s been an amazing show. I miss when it was a horror mystery in the first half but this action packed thriller of a 2nd half has been great as well, it’s been a fantastic show all the way through. |
Yumekua said: I find that the purpose of shide fits very well with the narcissistic personality of the character and the theme of the manga. The theme of the manga is the acceptance of the loss of what is dear to us and the different ways to be confronted with it. Example : Shinpei who must stop running away from painful ordeals such as the death of Ushio or his parents by his ability to step back and must accept to make painful choices (which he will do as the series progresses by taking more and more initiatives). Except that Shide instead of accepting that his dream is not achievable to see the end of the world (because of the fact that Hiruko can't give birth anymore), by egoistic and narcissistic desire, he will try to realize it in a diverting way (which will lead him to his loss). We started with two characters who were in denial except that one evolved and the other remained in denial quite to put the whole world in danger of extinction. Just because it's cliché doesn't make it a bad villain. Don't just stop at the form. I don't think Shinpei is "running away" from painful ordeals such as the death of Ushio or his parents, I think that is exaggerating it. You can see back in ep1 he was hurt but at the same time you can see that he accepted that they were gone albeit being sad and hurt at the same time, he wasn't running away and he doesn't linger too much on it and instead focuses on the mystery of what's happening on the island. Although Shinpei is partly indecisive he usually make quick decisions and quickly sticks to his choices or plans. It is precisely because he seems emotionally detached that he has not come to terms with their loss. However unlike a subaru (for example), shinpei does not leak in a conventional way but by a leak from the front, trying not to confront these painful moments, preferring to think or act on other things, and trying to attach himself emotionally as little as possible by his aspect of "emotional distance" aspect (except when his back is against the wall). This is exactly what he explains at the end of episode 14, he prefers not to act, to act from a distance or to look for ways to get around the problem than to cut the crap (contrary to Ushio's personality) for fear of failing or regretting the consequences of his choices. We can see it for example with his romance with Ushio. Instead of confessing his love for Ushio (before her death) for fear of losing the potential intimate relationship he had with her, he will prefer to leave for Tokyo to keep his semblance of relationship with her which could have become a brother-sister relationship (knowing that he would not have confessed his love if he had stayed with her) And he regretted it for a long time with the death of the latter, not to have confessed it. It's towards the end of the series that we understand that he has evolved (Hizuru's death being the trigger that will nail his change of emotional trajectory that he started to take at the end of episode 14). Instead of letting the others act in the first lines and avoid any critical moment by preparing many plans as he did before, he takes unconscious iniatives of the same acabits as Ushio (even faster than her when he tries to follow shide in the world of hiruko) and lets express his emotions much more. Anyway it's not an interpretation or exaggeration, I'm just repeating what shinpei literally says in his speech at the end of episode 14. I advise you to watch the series again, because you may have missed a lot of other stuff that will help you understand the bigger picture. |
YumekuaSep 25, 2022 3:39 PM
| Final boss time with Shide. This battle is straight outta the matrix when Shinpei is dodging Shide's bullets. It was absolutely insane. What a wild ride this has been. Can't wait for the finale episode to this wonderful anime. |
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| finally!! (hopefully!!) shide is gone!! i teared up a bit, haine disappearing honestly was really sad. i wonder if we will get to see her 'reincarnated' in the next episode kinda just spewing some of my thoughts here (pls no one actually respond/answer me lol) - when they went back to the past and ushio just deleted the whale, i was feeling like that's gotta be creating some kind of paradox or something. judging from the ending scene, it seems we've gone back to the beginning of the show. is shinpei really gonna come back to the present (from when he was on the ferry headed toward the island) and everything will be the same (well i guess haine/hiruko & shide wouldn't exist, everyone who died would still be alive) ? i guess his parents will be alive? and ryuu as well? but if ushio didn't die then why is he headed back to the island? why would hizuru be on the ferry as well, didn't she only come because of shadow ushio's recording? maybe they're coming back to see their family members/friends? hmmm. the more i think, the more things i realize will be different, and the more questions i have lol. am looking forward to the ending!!!! please don't disappoint!!!! |
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Fenlix said: Ventus_S said: Yep , this is gonna be the anime of the year hands down. I dont think any other anime of this year can beats it. Made in Abyss S2 is great, but not Summertime Render great. This is such a touching and satisfying ending. Yeah...I don't think so. Chainsaw-man and Mob psycho 100 season 3 are totally going to destroy this anime. Actually, I also liked shadow house s2 slighly more. But it's still top 5 of this year so far. Ppl keep praising Chainsaw man like they did for Spy Family before the anime even aired I dont want to get my expectation up again and only to be disappointed. Spy Family is such an average show and ppl been praising it like the best thing ever. I've seen better comedy in the genre. I've seen more touching familial love shows too. Spy Family is just average on both aspects. Anyway I'm just going to keep my expectation low before I watch Chainsaw man. Might be another bluff again. |
samsince04 said: Ventus_S said: Made in Abyss is great and absolutely should not be in the same discussion as Summertime meandering. Anime of the year? You're having a laugh, surely.Yep , this is gonna be the anime of the year hands down. I dont think any other anime of this year can beats it. Made in Abyss S2 is great, but not Summertime Render great. This is such a touching and satisfying ending. That's your opinion too. There are some great moments for sure , and music is top notch, but the shading/ coloring of season 2 has been pretty out of tone compare to the original manga . A lot of scenes that's supposed to convey horror has been lightened up so much cuz of the bright color shading , including the village itself. There are some key moments like the introduction of Eluko and Belaf Norohate form that has been addressed so lightly I feel nothing out of it, especially the part where Riku ripped the black goo off from Eluko without hesitation. Also if you think of the plot thoroughly you'd feel like this entire premise is kinda like a waste of time. Basically the whole premise is Nanachi goofing off, Riku goofing off, Reg fucked up everything by shooting a hole out of the village and cause all this mess. All the actual story had happened hundreds of years ago . Meanwhile Summer Time render has not a single moment that's wasted thought-out the entire story and every moments are crucial and foreshadowing of later plots. It has done return on death part and loop part better than Rezero even. |
Ventus_SSep 25, 2022 7:59 PM
Delirium231 said: @Yumekua It felt more like "regret" after losing Ushio and his parents rather than running away. You can see him regret it more during his monologues that is not running away. You can clearly see that he regrets it very badly. He was running away from the problems that he had on the island, and "later regretted" his action after losing Ushio and not being there for her by her side before the tragedy. Again He runs away from a problem, than regrets it afterwards if there is a big mistake. I advise you to watch again the whole speech at the end of episode 14, it doesn't only talk about what he did before ushio's death but also about his actions in the 13 previous episodes. |
BakaDood said: Shides motive was very dumb lol To give birth to a mother on 8 generations is not what will allow the newborn to have a mental stability x) |
Ventus_S said: samsince04 said: Made in Abyss is great and absolutely should not be in the same discussion as Summertime meandering. Anime of the year? You're having a laugh, surely. That's your opinion too. There are some great moments for sure , and music is top notch, but the shading/ coloring of season 2 has been pretty out of tone compare to the original manga . A lot of scenes that's supposed to convey horror has been lightened up so much cuz of the bright color shading , including the village itself. There are some key moments like the introduction of Eluko and Belaf Norohate form that has been addressed so lightly I feel nothing out of it, especially the part where Riku ripped the black goo off from Eluko without hesitation. Also if you think of the plot thoroughly you'd feel like this entire premise is kinda like a waste of time. Basically the whole premise is Nanachi goofing off, Riku goofing off, Reg fucked up everything by shooting a hole out of the village and cause all this mess. All the actual story had happened hundreds of years ago . Meanwhile Summer Time render has not a single moment that's wasted thought-out the entire story and every moments are crucial and foreshadowing of later plots. It has done return on death part and loop part better than Rezero even. Consider deleting lines 5,6, and 7. It just screams of deflection. In the first few lines, some actual criticism from you is taking place but then you decide to make some truly brain-dead statements. The story isn't happening, they're just goofing off, they're not in the most dangerous layer, they are just goofing off. People aren't dying left, front, and center. They're just goofing off. Reg shooting a hole in the village is not how the story started lmao. Maybe that's why Summertime rendering was so boring in the second half, the writers were trying to make "every moment crucial" and in the process, lost the plot. Should've ended while it was still hot. |
  𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶   |
the friendship power kinda ruin it a bit What power of friendship are you talking about? |
| All of this because Shide is afraid of dying. For someone who kills others, Shide sure is one giant pussy. Ushio can produce bullets that can hack and needs 2 minutes to prepare them? Now that feels like an asspull. I'm not going to pretend and say I get it, but I assume everything went back to square one somehow, judging by Shinpei's right eye. Well, next is the last one.  |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
| What a final boss fight that was, Shide didn't fudge around This anime went in such a weird direction but i won't lie i was entertained, Now i wonder why there's still an episode left, maybe the surprises aren't over yet? or just 20 mins to conclude everything but that woudl be pretty boring |
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Yuu_Kanzaki said: All of this because Shide is afraid of dying. For someone who kills others, Shide sure is one giant pussy. Ushio can produce bullets that can hack and needs 2 minutes to prepare them? Now that feels like an asspull. I'm not going to pretend and say I get it, but I assume everything went back to square one somehow, judging by Shinpei's right eye. Well, next is the last one. Ushio is so pretty here. I will miss this series so much... ropiel said: What a final boss fight that was, Shide didn't fudge around This anime went in such a weird direction but i won't lie i was entertained, Now i wonder why there's still an episode left, maybe the surprises aren't over yet? or just 20 mins to conclude everything but that woudl be pretty boring I think in the final episode all remaining mysteries will be explained to us. |
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| Good teamwork, they defeated the last boss. Actually, I would like shinpei to give him more punch in the face. б（＞ε＜）∂ Well, that's sad ending o(TヘTo), even if shadowUshio is a shadow, Shinpei did really love her. ~(>_<~) Ushio somewhat became a god, Open the Steins Gate then went back to change the past, so this can end with lots of the humans who died from the shadows, survived. Looking forward to the final episode. （๑✧∀✧๑） |
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cronoSpirA said: Good teamwork, they defeated the last boss. Actually, I would like shinpei to give him more punch in the face. б（＞ε＜）∂ Well, that's sad ending o(TヘTo), even if shadowUshio is a shadow, Shinpei did really love her. ~(>_<~) Ushio somewhat became a god, Open the Steins Gate then went back to change the past, so this can end with lots of the humans who died from the shadows, survived. Looking forward to the final episode. （๑✧∀✧๑） Yes, according to the manga it is happy end to all. What novel? Zombi4ek said: I love this end so much It isn't the end yet. |
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| The first half of the show was a solid 9/10 AOTY but after it turned into a battle shounen full of asspulls it quickly lowered to a 6/10 for me. A waste of time and I regret watching it. |
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