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Jun 21, 2022 1:19 PM
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I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.
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Jun 21, 2022 1:29 PM
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Blame the people who made it. They condensed like half of the manga in order to make it fit into a movie, which came at the cost of a bunch of exposition and information being left out, not to mention subplots that were just scrapped. The way the movie handled Akira himself always bugged me since he had a lot more screen-time in the manga, but was given a much smaller role in the movie as a deus ex machina basically, yet the movie was still named after him lol.

As you can probably tell, I've never loved the movie although the manga was great.
Jun 21, 2022 1:29 PM
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Same here tbh. I personally thought the movie wasn't bad. To me it was just fine. Story was decent, but the characters barely got any development. And the final few scenes were so damn rushed. At least that's how it felt to me. It was like they ran out of time and had to cram everything in 20 or so minutes. Animation was outstanding, music as well, but that's it. I didn't feel anything while watching the movie. The only reason I gave it a 6 instead of a 5 is due to the production quality alone.
Jun 21, 2022 1:50 PM
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It’s a bad adaption of the manga, but it showed how animation can really be done, it’s still a work of art in that regard, and yeah, it may be difficult to understand, but it’s part of the charm of the movie, and it’s a testament of how incredible is Katsuhiro Otomo. If you want to see a work like Akira that actually have a more satisfying ending and maybe even better action scenes try the 1998 Spriggan movie, supervised by Otomo himself, it’s like Akira but less known and, in my opinion, a bit better. Of course Akira manga is still an incredible work, and visually the anime still holds up today
Jun 21, 2022 1:51 PM
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i think you pretty much got it, the movie is arguably worth the watch due to its significance for the medium and is even enjoyable due to the amazing production values and artistry, but is quite poor in my humble opinion, in regards to most things relating to its writing.

i do think it had some points of interest going for it in regards to the world building and so on, but the story was an incoherent mess in my eyes and i didn't like the cast, or any of the attempts at character arcs for most of them very much either.

on another note OP, don't waste your time on trolls that have made their accounts exactly a minute ago, just a piece of advice.
Jun 21, 2022 1:55 PM
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I'm curious how much info you had before you started the film. I could see how someone going in with only the idea that it's this critically acclaimed, widely loved anime with little else detail or context-- feeling perhaps a little letdown by the narrative merely by having your expectations so built up. However, there is a lot of context I think people should familiarize themselves with to understand the film's cultural impact.

Akira came out in 1988 and it was (and still is) an amazingly animated, beautiful film. It truly stands the test of time and many many animators and filmmakers pay homage to the film, specifically to the iconic "Akira slide". I think the technicality of the animation alone should be impressive to you but that might be something you need to do more research on or just rewatch looking for those animation decisions that make the film so good.

There are also a lot of visual allegories and symbolism in the film that might make the narrative richer to you. However, the film's pacing and story beats don't differ that much from other sci-fi, cyberpunk films. It might* take a few rewatches and some reading maybe to fully appreciate its story, but I think it's worth another try.

Happy viewing!

PS I'd like to admit that it isn't perfectly written/I've never considered it a "masterpiece" but I think its definitely worthy of its praise and significance in the history of animation.***
Jun 21, 2022 1:56 PM
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The movie was ok...but you really should read the Manga for the full enjoyment of Akira.
Jun 21, 2022 1:58 PM
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The movie is definitely worse than the manga.
Jun 21, 2022 2:13 PM
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MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

Your favourites says it all i mean you like simple things it's just not for you
Jun 21, 2022 2:18 PM

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Tefashi said:
MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

Your favourites says it all i mean you like simple things it's just not for you
Based on your favourite it seems like “creativity” is the most important thing for you, I wouldn’t class that as an objectively important quality for a show. It’s not really something that should affect your rating of a show if your rating aren’t completely based off of personal taste. I’d say that Akira fits into that same “Avantgarde” category.
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Jun 21, 2022 2:31 PM
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I was also stumped I thought this movie was quite bad.
Jun 21, 2022 2:51 PM
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the context around Akira is very important to fully appreciate it, but I can accept that it is losing its strength as time passes.
to analyze Akira you must see it from the eyes of a 1980s audience.
it's hype comes from the relevance and avant garde stance not seen in those years:
animation quality, violence/gore, nudity, weird punk story, things that no one had truly seen in an animated film, we were in the years where the purity of Disney had our souls and manga/anime was a dark cult, specially for westerners.

The plot is difficult, not perfect, demands a lot of attention for symbolism and subtext, and yes, one can later understand it had its defiencies because the manga was not finished at the time. but it is inspite of all that, that the movie is enjoyable and captured so of us in awe and opened our eyes to a whole new form of Animation, storytelling and seeing mature themes in a cartoon.
as "groundbreaking" seeing Roy Focker truly die in Robotech was for us kids watching then...suddenly Akira came and showed the world things not seen before.

so it's hype, industry respect and fame comes not for being a perfect movie/adaptation but a groundbreaking effort which made excelent use of the available things in the moment.

all that said..to be honest for me it is a great movie with a good balance of character, story, action and awesome visuals...i have never needed it to be a deep art piece and go as deep as the manga goes to be truly awesome entertainment.
Jun 21, 2022 3:01 PM
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Ok so basically akira was made before the manga was finished.The whole appeal is in its insane and very detailed animation. This movie may not have a complete story but for 1988 this was mind blowing. Akira played a major role into popularising anime especially in the west. There’s this remake thing that will come out at some point. Would be incredible if they managed to adapt the whole thing while also having god tier animation. And they better not fuck it up.
Jun 21, 2022 3:16 PM
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Same. I was hyped to watch it because em the art looked cool and dystopian. But it was essentially plotless.
Jun 21, 2022 3:34 PM

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MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

I just witnessed a war happen, but I'll tell you anyways: I say read the mangas to get the full experience as the creator of Akira took part of the making of the film while the mangas we're still in production thus explaining why some parts of the movie aren't explained. I guess that could be a turn off for people and I understand. It can get Batshit at times I'll admit that. The movie is still revolutionary for it's time and is responsible for popularizing anime in the western and inspired other movies like Ghost in the Shell. I also appreciate it for it's art, the aesthetic, characters are developed and likable enough, Tetsuo is a great villain, and it kept me entertained.
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MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

Yeah dude you are totally on the mark, this movie is hella overrated. Once upon a time this movie was all the rage, just like Star Wars back in its day (all though star wars aged a lot better) . . . but honestly Akira doesn't have anything but great (for the 80's) animation & sound. But let's be real, other shows that have nice animation but meh characters, weird pacing and dreadful storyline (like fr, what the heck was happening half of this movie?) are usually slammed by critics and fans alike. A show that comes to mind is Tokyo Ghoul, it had nice animation, great music, so much promise built up within all of S1 . . . but then the story went to hell, and too much character development and storyline got cut out, so it was considered by non-simps a disaster. Let's not even talk about after season 2, where the story left the chat, animation looked like crap, the music got overused and abused, and there were hundreds of irrelevant characters dying that I apparently should have cared about.
But unlike TG, Akira started off chaotic and never had a coherent story, yet gets worshiped.

I understand that the geezers are stuck in the past, and that back to the day Akira was THE anime to go see, but seriously, y'all can't actually think this is a good movie anymore. 5/10, and that's being being generous.
Jun 21, 2022 5:10 PM

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I recommend trying the manga; I read it prior to watching the film and had a much better albeit still not complete understanding of the plot.
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Jun 21, 2022 5:49 PM

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I watched this movie a couple of weeks ago and I also think it's overrated. Their opinions are probably nostalgia biased, like how people say Dragon Ball is the best shonen ever.
The animation was pretty good for its time, but that's all.
Jun 21, 2022 6:54 PM
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oh shit who let the Akame ga Kill fans back on the internet with their "rEAD ThE ManGA" shit, I thought we euthanized all you fuckers because you got too annoying with your incessant whining over why the manga is better. Just saying the director literally wrote the manga, you don't understand what made Akira popular and you probably didn't understand the manga either. Things that appeal to niche audiences like anime did in the 90's do not typically carry high acclaim into the 20-goddamn-20's without some kind of reasoning, knock off your hipster bullshit, y'all sound like those losers who think they're special because they liked a band before it was used in X-popular show, you don't sound cool, you sound annoying.
Jun 21, 2022 7:06 PM
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Yeah I recently watched this as well and thought it was bad. The plot points made no sense and the characters were not enjoyable to watch because of the condensed material. While the premise of the show seemed interesting at first, it didn’t do a good job displaying it. I might give it another try but I will most likely read the manga to see the difference.
Jun 21, 2022 7:41 PM

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I don't understand its appeal either. I found it pretty boring. then again I guess all this popularity and love it gets comes mostly from when it first released. not sure about now but people Alive back then might've found it impressive or something.
Jun 21, 2022 8:49 PM

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Now that high quality media isnt so rare,u wont feel much,but at the time it came out,it twisted the world of media.
Jun 21, 2022 9:27 PM
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LOL ITS YOU AGAIN. Look nothing you said is factually true, it took an identical direction to the manga, its the exact same director who drew everything in the manga, kid. The manga just extends the plot cause durrr its not a 2 hour movie. Anything you like is inferior to Akira. flat out, bottom line. Akira resonated with Japan and the entire world, but not YOU? Its the most well animated piece in the history of anime and to this day nothing has come close except Ghost in the Shell.
Jun 21, 2022 9:33 PM
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Fyshra said:
oh shit who let the Akame ga Kill fans back on the internet with their "rEAD ThE ManGA" shit, I thought we euthanized all you fuckers because you got too annoying with your incessant whining over why the manga is better. Just saying the director literally wrote the manga, you don't understand what made Akira popular and you probably didn't understand the manga either. Things that appeal to niche audiences like anime did in the 90's do not typically carry high acclaim into the 20-goddamn-20's without some kind of reasoning, knock off your hipster bullshit, y'all sound like those losers who think they're special because they liked a band before it was used in X-popular show, you don't sound cool, you sound annoying.

If it doesnt appeal to the Japanese its not good anime. Akira defined the Japanese psyche, and your favorite anime did not. Quit it with your anime elitism, manga dwarfs anime and is always the canon. Anime is all filler.
Jun 21, 2022 9:40 PM
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everyone's watching for the bike shot.
Jun 21, 2022 10:26 PM

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Just saying the director literally wrote the manga

And? The movie diverged from the source material many times regardless when it came to certain storylines and characters for obvious reasons like the story needing to be cut short, and the fact that Otomo hadn't finished the manga yet.

That doesn't change what I said about the manga though - it is vastly superior since it includes the entire story that the movie wasn't able to adapt fully, and it gives better development for its characters.
Jun 21, 2022 11:34 PM
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while I think Akira is an amazing film in its own right it requires you pay special attention to it to get any sense of what is going on, not really a put it on a half watch it half scroll my phone kinda movie. on top of that the movie had to cut down a 6 volume manga into 124 minutes, what equates to roughly 1 volume per 20 mins or your average length anime episode so some things were always gonna be glossed over. one of the big reasons I think it has the reputation it does in the west is due to
1. the film was many peoples first exposure to the existence of anime in the west as well as being a giant technological spectacle in terms of pushing the limits of animation & budget at the time for an animated movie 2.besides being a big introduction to anime in the west it was also a landmark movie in the cyberpunk genre as well as being responsible for the creation of the japanese cyberpunk sub-genre
3.I think what also helped the franchise as a whole is the fact that Akira was one of the first manga to be translated over to English in its entirety start to finish, being done so by marvel under their epic comics imprint from 88 to 96, starting just before the films US release in 1989
Jun 21, 2022 11:54 PM
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Stellar animation, great action, cool characters, fast pacing
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I didn't like it that much either.
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MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

its budget was unreasonably high for the time. so everyone forced themselves to watch it.
it couldn't be called bad so ppl assumed it was the best thing ever. (cough most ghibli films cough)

and bonus point, it was the political trap of "this is about when japan got bombed so if you don't like it, you're literally Hitler" which doesn't make any sense but it is still being done today. (cough 86 cough cough)

and has good animation which as we know by experience , if a thing has good animation, it's really hard to make the rest bad enough that ppl realize it's actually bad. (cough cough kny cough)

hope it helped.
Jun 22, 2022 1:41 AM
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LMAOOO I just recently finished it like 2 days ago but my pet peeve is this. I liked it a LOTTT but there’s a lot of information left out that is very clear tbh and the ending has got to be one of THE most confusing endings of all time bc it’s up to us to interpret what happened when we barely got any information about Akira to interpret anything but I still enjoyed it throughly though. and I’ll watch it again bc the animation is just phenomenal๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐ŸคŒ๐Ÿฝ
Jun 22, 2022 2:15 AM

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i didn't like this movie at all.
it just isn't something for me.
near the end, i had no idea what was going on either and u was just bored for the majority of it
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i didn't like this movie at all.
it just isn't something for me.
near the end, i had no idea what was going on either and u was just bored for the majority of it
Just about summarizes one piece.
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You don't understand because there's none. Also fuck Kanye West thay rotten bastard-y beyotchnippah.
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Jun 22, 2022 4:02 AM
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I agree with everything you said I also don't think the animation looks very impressive I thought something about it looked awkward idk but I share all your sentiments. I thought it was good but not that good lol
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MR-GOD said:
I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

this is literally the main problem people have criticising anime: people don't agree on what parts of a show make it 'good' in the first place. many value aesthetics, or music, or emotional response over character writing, for example, and there's no reason to say these are invalid reasons to enjoy media. (personally, i am just a sucker for characters who are written in a way that makes them feel truly human.)

with that in mind, in my view the akira film really isn't that well written—at least, it's abundantly clear to me that the writing isn't what makes it so widely acclaimed. most of the characters are very forgettable aside from a couple good character designs inherited from the manga, but none have a depth or personality worth feeling invested in. the movie doesn't bring much to the table besides audiovisual catastrophe.

for me, akira was the equivalent of saying 'because we animate with a great deal of ambition, because we express things on a large scale, and because the manga has provided us with plenty of great designs, this film is worth watching.'

but ultimately i didn't particularly enjoy it, precisely because it didn't feel like there was much there besides excellent animation, solid worldbuilding and a good soundtrack. so it's a bit of an 'each to their own' thing, i think.
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This needed to be an anime with 12 episodes as opposed to a movie. I read the manga before watching the film and I can say that the manga is better(though both endings sucked). There was just a lot of backstory that was cut out in the movie and some things were better handled in the manga.


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fekkucu said:

Read my edited post you genius I made it much better to respond to your nonsense. And no matter how much you want to deny it your ratings show you are an edgelord.

huh? my highest ratings are a mixed bag, but probably the most consistent theme is yuri, what's so edgelord about that XD

to address your edited post,
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You are so full of yourself you don't even understand my point and change my words according to your whim, I said ""t does not have enough time to develop a lot of characters" whereas you make it as if I said "it doesn't have time to develop the characters" "There is a shit load of difference in meaning.

i am full of myself? holy shit i had no idea, ty for the insight :3 actually, i find a great deal of pleasure in being myself and trying to understand myself, so of course i'm deeply self-interested. people who desperately deny that they are make me worried.

anyway, i didn't mean to misrepresent you, i thought it was obvious as fuck that i was paraphrasing. anyone could literally just move their eyeballs up a little and see the exact words you used if they wanted to, so if i could be bothered to quote you directly, i would have. i just mistakenly didn't assume you'd make a fuss about it.

however, i can admit i misinterpreted what you were trying to say. tbh, the idea that akira as a film has good character writing — meaning, as far as i understand it, characters who make interesting characters practically regardless of context — was just kinda unbelievable to me, so i gave you the benefit of the doubt that that wasn't what you meant. especially since you were saying you were "accepting it's flaws" (paraphrasing) after all, failing to do the near-impossible (develop the majority of a massive cast) within a very limited runtime isn't really a flaw, lol.

in any case, my stated perspective stands that akira really doesn't give it's characters much in the way of depth or subtle character writing whatsoever. it's an action film with great worldbuilding, but the characters are very forgettable, especially if you only watch the film. i can't think of a single time i felt the characters had meaningfully complex motivations and character traits beneath those which were simply necessary to drive the story. if you think otherwise, we can agree to disagree, but i think my criticism remains a meaningful one.

Sure there are movies develop "most" of their characters but their cast it never as big as Akira's

yeah, i wasn't talking about this. i was talking about quality of character depth/character writing, you were talking about quantity of characters with depth.

Do you understand now or you are just too much of a simple person with limited capacity?

does it make you meaningfully happy that you're the kind of person to become aggressive at others online for your own mildly-sadistic temporary reprieve? does it make you happy that you want me to make a mistake, say something obviously wrong and stupid, and let you bask in the glory of having won the argument for all to see?

i only responded to you because you were being high and mighty in the first place, but i don't think i've ever belittled you in a way intended to hurt your feelings or something. i just wanted you to realise how it makes you look bad when you put yourself above others in a manner that betrays how your thought processes function — like "naturally if you watch simple shows you wont understand my refined taste" etc (paraphrasing, i know you didn't literally say those exact words lmfao)

like, i try really hard to make sure everyone knows i'm arrogant and self-obsessed, so that they know i don't harbour resentment for them even in my arrogance. so you could at least put in some effort to be less obvious that you do, right?
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i dont get how people cant at least value the animation. just look at the background. how there is so much going on in some scenes. remember this is all hand drawn. the movie is aesthetically a masterpiece. it deserves the hype it gets. it inspired animators and mangakas for years to come. its not “nostalgia”, it holds up great today. in my opinion this is as good as it gets when it comes to natural hand drawn animation. nothing comes close to be honest. that alone makes it a masterpiece. the plot might not be completely clear, but thats why the manga exists. like others said, otomo directed it when the manga was partially done so its not even possible to have a complete story. you just have to take it for what it is. but calling it overrated is blasphemy in the anime world because this is one of the pioneers in popularizing anime. anime wouldnt be where it is today if it wasnt for movies like akira. the impact it had, the animation, and the music are all enough to make it a masterpiece. for plot, pick up the manga. i personally dont think it should have been a movie, it would have benefitted more as a series, but otomo probably understood that akira would get more exposure as a movie, and thats why he made it a movie. thats also why he made the movie while the manga was unfinished because thats what brought more fans into the medium at the time. some shows get praised for art style, so lets keep that energy consistent. why judge a fish based on its ability to climb a tree.
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Same .Great animation but I don't understand the ending not that I hate this anime....
Jun 23, 2022 3:43 PM
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well its important to frame the movie correctly, its am 80s movie and thus we are much more critical of media especially Japanese storytelling. it was a remarkably well animated movie with such great ambiance and style,its still very dramatic and dynamic but of course its core plot is shallow but that was never really the draw of akira
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There are some positives , like aesthetic value , but yeah , i was expecting more too
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Not that I didn’t like the movie,but I was definitely expecting more from something so praised about in the community, but who knows I might just need to rewatch again
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Tefashi said:
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I have just finished this film and I really don't understand why it's so critically acclaimed. I understand that it took a completely different direction to the manga, and it is very obvious. There were a multitude of characters that served no purpose being there (Kaori, Kei, Ryu) and others who should have had way more explanation like Akira. This film may have been ahead of it's time in terms of animation and sound quality, but it is absurdly uninformative about what is actually happening throughout. It also feels like it just ends.. and that's it. It doesn't explain at all what happened, and just leaves you to assume. The powers that characters had were never given any reason either, they just "awakened" and were suddenly able to do whatever.

I'm just looking to see what anyone else thinks makes this film worth it's reputation.

Your favourites says it all i mean you like simple things it's just not for you


bro you think you better just cuz you watch outdated shows lmao
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EggMann said:
Tefashi said:

Your favourites says it all i mean you like simple things it's just not for you


bro you think you better just cuz you watch outdated shows lmao


Before talking check my favourites they are not outdated please watch more anime
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EggMann said:


bro you think you better just cuz you watch outdated shows lmao


Before talking check my favourites they are not outdated please watch more anime


nobody watching dem shows no more brother plus i got a life i ain't watching anime all day
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You answered your own question. It was way ahead of its time in animation. It also helped that it was dark and gritty in an era where that wasn’t really the norm. Akira hasn’t aged well, but the appeal for it is due to the impact it left on the medium and the legacy it’s left behind.
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EggMann said:
Tefashi said:


Before talking check my favourites they are not outdated please watch more anime


nobody watching dem shows no more brother plus i got a life i ain't watching anime all day

Neither me i have a ps5 and I play a lot
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Tefashi said:


Before talking check my favourites they are not outdated please watch more anime


nobody watching dem shows no more brother plus i got a life i ain't watching anime all day


Me neither i have a ps5 and i play a lot
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I think that nowadays, for people who didn't see the movie before, the appeal is mainly the animation and the setting. In the beginning it looked like I'd give it an 8/10 but I gave it a 6/10 in the end, I might put it even lower later on.

The animation and setting were great, the music was good but the characters were as bland as an average isekai protagonist's design and the story was- what was the story?

Also, what's the purpose of the promotional poster? It makes it look like the movie is about a cyberpunk biker gangster.
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