| Imagine if Muv Luv and Muv Luv Alternative was made with budget and love as other great LN/VN adaption? Look at Steins;Gate, Clannad, 86, and the other beautiful anime that have been made with care, love, and budget. If Muv Luv had the same level of those anime this would easily be top 3 or even surpass Fullmetal Alchemist brotherhood finally. I know everyone feels the same but I just can not understand how Age gave the green light to this anime. It is so pathetically sad and under represents the VN. If anything it did harm because anyone watching the first few episodes wont even bother buying the VN anymore. Gosh what a huge mistake. |
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Incognimous said: Also it would never get into the Top 3 because it lacks mass appeal. MAL ratings were never really about quality but more of a popularity contest. Are you saying you don't think VNDB and ErogameScape are like popularity contests? |
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| @Incognimous Then what makes VNDB different from MAL, in your opinion? How did Alternative become the #1 visual novel if it "lacks mass appeal?" |
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Incognimous said: In order to make it work as an anime only experience for new viewers they would have had to very extensively rewrite it I don't see why they would have to rewrite a lot. Just trim things down to a single route and tweak the pacing for 25 minute episodes. That much is standard fare for any visual novel adaptation. The issue here is probably just risk. A proper adaptation would require at least two seasons, and probably three. Muv-luv Extra and Unlimited could be compressed into 12 episodes each, but Alternative would really need 48 episodes to do it proper justice. Committing to a task that large is a huge financial risk, which evidently was calculated to be not worth it. After all, there's already several Muv-luv universe anime out there, all of which got mediocre reception. So this time they went for the minimal amount of brand recognition with an anime that is worthless by itself but makes for decent marketing material for the rest of the franchise. The creators must know that absolutely no one will be satisfied by this kind of adaptation. Leaving you unsatisfied is the point... so you'll buy the game. Unfortunately, that just isn't going to work for a massive potential audience. It's a disservice to humanity that this story will remain exclusive to a medium that only a few will experience. |
| Yes they could, oh I don't know, GO WITH THE ORIGINAL TIME LINE FROM THE BEGINNING ALA EXTRA/UNLIMITED. Alternative is just spoiler central from the beginning because it is essentially Groundhog Day for Takeru. Death to Anime. 🙏 |
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| Who said it wasn't made with love? You literally assume things based on what the upper authorities have decided, that is that it's only going to be an alternative adaptation and that it's gonna be 24 episodes max. This is something that the developer "Age" themself have greenlit The ones who've made the show are the staff which includes animators, directors, etc. who have in my opinion done their best with the budget and episodes restriction they're given. It's not a good adaptation but it still feels very much like Muv Luv and most anime onlys aren't confused as to what's happening and are enjoying it |
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FireFistYK said: Who said it wasn't made with love? You literally assume things based on what the upper authorities have decided, that is that it's only going to be an alternative adaptation and that it's gonna be 24 episodes max. This is something that the developer "Age" themself have greenlit The ones who've made the show are the staff which includes animators, directors, etc. who have in my opinion done their best with the budget and episodes restriction they're given. It's not a good adaptation but it still feels very much like Muv Luv and most anime onlys aren't confused as to what's happening and are enjoying it sure thing buddy. whatrever helps you sleep at night. |
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Hyuse said: FireFistYK said: Who said it wasn't made with love? You literally assume things based on what the upper authorities have decided, that is that it's only going to be an alternative adaptation and that it's gonna be 24 episodes max. This is something that the developer "Age" themself have greenlit The ones who've made the show are the staff which includes animators, directors, etc. who have in my opinion done their best with the budget and episodes restriction they're given. It's not a good adaptation but it still feels very much like Muv Luv and most anime onlys aren't confused as to what's happening and are enjoying it sure thing buddy. whatrever helps you sleep at night. Lol, at least try to prove me wrong before trying to start up a conversation/discussion |
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FireFistYK said: Who said it wasn't made with love? You literally assume things based on what the upper authorities have decided, that is that it's only going to be an alternative adaptation and that it's gonna be 24 episodes max. This is something that the developer "Age" themself have greenlit The ones who've made the show are the staff which includes animators, directors, etc. who have in my opinion done their best with the budget and episodes restriction they're given. It's not a good adaptation but it still feels very much like Muv Luv and most anime onlys aren't confused as to what's happening and are enjoying it Lol, this is 2021 and we're given early 2000's FSN Deen quality 2D animation. And this is with THREE studios. Where did you get 24? Mal states 12. There's no further annoucement so none of us know if there is even another season, which may be be unlikely given how poor this is doing. Death to Anime. |
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OppaiSugoi said: FireFistYK said: Who said it wasn't made with love? You literally assume things based on what the upper authorities have decided, that is that it's only going to be an alternative adaptation and that it's gonna be 24 episodes max. This is something that the developer "Age" themself have greenlit The ones who've made the show are the staff which includes animators, directors, etc. who have in my opinion done their best with the budget and episodes restriction they're given. It's not a good adaptation but it still feels very much like Muv Luv and most anime onlys aren't confused as to what's happening and are enjoying it Lol, this is 2021 and we're given early 2000's FSN Deen quality 2D animation. And this is with THREE studios. Where did you get 24? Mal states 12. There's no further annoucement so none of us know if there is even another season, which may be be unlikely given how poor this is doing. Death to Anime. The animation is hardly F/SN Deen quality but we all have our own opinions With the current pacing, they will probably end at so it's pretty much guaranteed to be a split cour. One of the staff members also accidentally shared a picture with "episode 17 script" in the background so that's that. 3 studios doesn't mean it's 3 full staffed studios either and Age only wanted this as a quick cash grab before their new Muv Luv games |
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dailybread said: FireFistYK said: The animation is hardly F/SN Deen quality but we all have our own opinions With the current pacing, they will probably end at so it's pretty much guaranteed to be a split cour. One of the staff members also accidentally shared a picture with "episode 17 script" in the background so that's that. 3 studios doesn't mean it's 3 full staffed studios either and Age only wanted this as a quick cash grab before their new Muv Luv games What makes you think this will have a 2nd cour? They had no problem ending TE midway through. One of the staff members accidentally shared a picture with "episode 17 script" in the background |
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dailybread said: FireFistYK said: One of the staff members accidentally shared a picture with "episode 17 script" in the background Not accidentally. You thought they'd have a script of the whole episode lying around in their desktop? They are just fucking with you. Sure, let's wait and see |
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dailybread said: Just reminding you that they've pulled this same exact thing with KimiNozo but sure. Let's wait and see. Yes I'm very much aware of that, they teased it at the end of Akane Maniax. I really don't think that they're not gonna fully adapt it, but as you said let's wait and see |
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dailybread said: FireFistYK said: Yes I'm very much aware of that, they teased it at the end of Akane Maniax. I really don't think that they're not gonna fully adapt it, but as you said let's wait and see No? I'm talking about kiminozo localization script "accidentally" being in the background of a photonmelodies(was it photonmelodies?) post on muvluv's twitter. No kiminozo for us obviously. Ah you meant that, my bad i thought you were referring to when they ended Akane Maniax with the start of Muv Luv (hence teasing an upcoming muv luv anime) |
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dailybread said: No? I'm talking about kiminozo localization script "accidentally" being in the background of a photonmelodies(was it photonmelodies?) post on muvluv's twitter. No kiminozo for us obviously. A translation was explicitly confirmed, multiple times. It's not a leak. https://hardcoregamer.com/news/visual-novel-kimi-ga-nozomu-eien-coming-west/215560 https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1319927555806277632 |
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dailybread said: Lucifrost said: A translation was explicitly confirmed, multiple times. It's not a leak. https://hardcoregamer.com/news/visual-novel-kimi-ga-nozomu-eien-coming-west/215560 https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1319927555806277632 https://hardcoregamer.com/news/visual-novel-kimi-ga-nozomu-eien-coming-west/215560 This is when evan was first recruited into alternative localization project. At this point, it wasn't even confirmed at all. hence all the polls about which should get localized next. TDA obviously got chosen despite the popular vote screaming at kiminozo. https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1319927555806277632 This is in october. The "leak" is in July. https://twitter.com/enjoievan/status/1288506588982939650 And now the only way you can find the script is by looking for it at evan's bin kiminozo official TL is considered dead/vaporware, its been at least a year with no status updates. I went ahead and MTL'd. |
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dailybread said: OppaiSugoi said: kiminozo official TL is considered dead/vaporware, its been at least a year with no status updates. I went ahead and MTL'd. There was a status update. Evan left the TL team with the script. yeah thats what I consider the project being dead. |
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| if you want a good muv luv anime, just go to sleep and dream about it, the way things are today it's impossible and not because the VN is hard to adapt, it's just that people in the biz don't wanna do it, it's too time consuming and it doesn't guarantee big cash. And I don't think it'll be top 3 on MAL, at the end of the day, it's just a sci fi sentimental harem with some robots and the ending is trash. I get why the fans are hyping it and loving it but you usual watcher won't be impressed |
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Catalano said: the ending is trash. I wouldn't call it trash, just a bit disappointing and rushed, i expected at least 1 more chapter. Catalano said: it's just a sci fi sentimental harem You could say the same about Steins;Gate but look at how popular it is. |
Fax001sNov 24, 2021 8:31 AM
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| the budget meme again, the truth is there is an animator shortage crisis going on due to overproduction of anime this past decades, you can have all the budget you want but if you cannot find any new talented animators enough to animate all the anime out there this days then its useless thats why im fine if this goes all full 3DCG show instead of seeing poor drawings and poor 2D animation quality |
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