| Clearly is overrated. People are praising this anime only because of its awesome visuals. |
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| It's an advertisement for a mobile game take it for what it is, eye and ear candy. If your looking for actual substance go watch Heike Monogatari or Blue Period |
| I agree with u totally, is both the untapped potential that i dropped it :c |
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| I don't get your criticism. How can character development happen in just 3 episodes? It takes much longer than this. The first couple of episodes was just focused on the introduction of the characters. If we don't get to know them, then there would be no point in development. Sure, the first impression I got from them was incredibly weak. They all seem one dimensional but I still hope there would be a change of pace in their personalities in the upcoming episodes. And with Cosette aka Destiny being almost robot-like, I don't see how there would be any development for her but there is some potential for Takt I guess. But then again, if one character's development may not happen, then I don't see how it will happen for the other. And Anna just seems like a filler character. 4Tad said: I agree with u totally, is both the untapped potential that i dropped it :c Did it even had any potential to begin with? The concept of Monsters banning music already sounds stupid enough. |
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| Definitely too early for that criticism. You probably just like stories that focus way more on characters and psychological content, with less plot points and a minor setting. It's been 3 episodes and we're just getting acquainted with the characters and premise. That's all there is to the show right now. Nothing else. There is no room for "character development", we don't know the characters neither do we care about them. We don't know the setting and the plot. We know little about everything and the episodes are just introducing them piece by piece. The characters also didn't know a lot. It wouldn't make sense for Takt and Anna to cry and ruminate about what happened to Cosette when it just happened now and they didn't even know what Destiny was and if she was still Cosette. If these feelings are going to be explored deeper, it would be in the next episode or throughout the show. A writer has to balance plot and characters, this is natural. It doesn't make sense to create drama over information that neither the readers/watchers nor the characters have a understanding of. That being said, if this is a 12/13 episode show, the pacing might be too slow, and either it will take off very fast soon, or it will have a poor continuation most likely. We'll see. |
| Agreed. I also kinda feel like it's a big show-off of studios skills. They are great, everybody know that, but it's like they gave everything in the actions animation and barely anything on the storyboard or on characters (they are really bland and boring). And like I join others thinking the second episode should have been the first one |
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SSL443 said: The biggest disappointment for me, though, was how horribly they underutilize the premise of the show. Hey, combat via music, sounds like a cool if not totally original concept. But the fight scenes are nothing more than generic video game cutscene swill, except the MC is waving a baton in the background like a clown. That's my biggest complain too. The whole thing is literally based on music, they go on and on about it in every episode, and yet they don't actually use music to fight, not even sound waves or anything remotely related to music. Wasted potential. |
Sheklon said: It's been 3 episodes and we're just getting acquainted with the characters and premise. That's all there is to the show right now. Nothing else. There is no room for "character development", we don't know the characters neither do we care about them. official_brown said: You don’t really see many anime that has character development 3 episodes in, even if you did put that excuse in your thread. Character development refers primarily to fleshing out of things like traits, personality, motivations, and relationships. It also encompass character progression, or character arcs, but it isn't limited to these latter concepts. In this show, this development has been either lacking, superficial, or unoriginal. Anna's character is a good example of the former. Her scenes keep hitting the same beat over and over again, depicting her as the put-upon older sister and the voice of reason in the group. The problem is, the repetition becomes so excessive by the third episode that she has become one-dimensional. Supporting characters will generally lack the same development as a protagonist, but in that case she should simply get less screen time. As it is, the anime belabors the point with regards to her character. Takt and Cosette (including Destiny) aren't much better. Everything we know about them can be summarized in a few sentences, but we've already had three episodes of this slog. Maybe things will improve from here on out, but it doesn't change the fact that the opening of this anime was drawn out way more than it needed to be. In my experience, its fairly rare for the writing in a show to improve. It happens, but it isn't my default assumption. Second, Takt and Cosette have a superficial relationship. She seems drawn to him because he can play the piano (badly, I might add), despite the fact that he is a dour, moody, and unlikable. This kind of tenuous connection between characters is a mainstay of poor writing, where things get waved away by lofty concepts like destiny. Finally, Takt's background is unoriginal. He has a tragic backstory and has become a troubled soul as a result. The problem is, the show has yet to do anything more with this to give it an original direction. He doesn't appear to have the drive to act as an instigating force for the narrative. Instead, he seems vaguely invested in taking not-Cosette to the Symphonica to maybe "fix" her. This is despite them having a fairly one-sided relationship up until her untimely demise. Clearly, the show is trying to work the angle where Takt is an empty shell following the death of his father, and the events of the story pull him back from the depths of despair. It just has yet to present this premise in a creative or interesting way. A well written story is going to hit the ground running with characters, making it clear what defines and motivates them. Not only the first episode but the very first scene in Sound! Euphonium establishes the central characters and begins the work of setting a foundation for their motivations and personalities right through the end of the series. In the immediately following scenes, the main character is constantly presented with situations and characters that allows the audience to learn about them via their reactions to these circumstances. |
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| People like action, people like music, it's popular and high-rated so people copy others, they forget about everything else. Honestly, the plot makes zero sense, and it isn't "unique", it's just "fight random monsters" with a musical instrument. "D2 very quickly banned all music" lmfaoooo, logic. I could say the same for Soul Eater, Kingdom Hearts, etc. because at its very basis those are both "fight random monsters" anime but with a twist. But with this show, I don't see plot being given to the monsters anytime soon, they'll just exist to exist. |
BunilleOct 20, 2021 3:24 PM
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SSL443 said: Sheklon said: It's been 3 episodes and we're just getting acquainted with the characters and premise. That's all there is to the show right now. Nothing else. There is no room for "character development", we don't know the characters neither do we care about them. official_brown said: You don’t really see many anime that has character development 3 episodes in, even if you did put that excuse in your thread. Character development refers primarily to fleshing out of things like traits, personality, motivations, and relationships. It also encompass character progression, or character arcs, but it isn't limited to these latter concepts. In this show, this development has been either lacking, superficial, or unoriginal. Anna's character is a good example of the former. Her scenes keep hitting the same beat over and over again, depicting her as the put-upon older sister and the voice of reason in the group. The problem is, the repetition becomes so excessive by the third episode that she has become one-dimensional. Supporting characters will generally lack the same development as a protagonist, but in that case she should simply get less screen time. As it is, the anime belabors the point with regards to her character. Takt and Cosette (including Destiny) aren't much better. Everything we know about them can be summarized in a few sentences, but we've already had three episodes of this slog. Maybe things will improve from here on out, but it doesn't change the fact that the opening of this anime was drawn out way more than it needed to be. In my experience, its fairly rare for the writing in a show to improve. It happens, but it isn't my default assumption. Second, Takt and Cosette have a superficial relationship. She seems drawn to him because he can play the piano (badly, I might add), despite the fact that he is a dour, moody, and unlikable. This kind of tenuous connection between characters is a mainstay of poor writing, where things get waved away by lofty concepts like destiny. Finally, Takt's background is unoriginal. He has a tragic backstory and has become a troubled soul as a result. The problem is, the show has yet to do anything more with this to give it an original direction. He doesn't appear to have the drive to act as an instigating force for the narrative. Instead, he seems vaguely invested in taking not-Cosette to the Symphonica to maybe "fix" her. This is despite them having a fairly one-sided relationship up until her untimely demise. Clearly, the show is trying to work the angle where Takt is an empty shell following the death of his father, and the events of the story pull him back from the depths of despair. It just has yet to present this premise in a creative or interesting way. A well written story is going to hit the ground running with characters, making it clear what defines and motivates them. Not only the first episode but the very first scene in Sound! Euphonium establishes the central characters and begins the work of setting a foundation for their motivations and personalities right through the end of the series. In the immediately following scenes, the main character is constantly presented with situations and characters that allows the audience to learn about them via their reactions to these circumstances. Lol you're critiquing like it's supposed to be some ground breaking character study when it's a just a high budget advertisement for a game. It's like whining that the He-Man and GI Joe cartoons from the 80's didn't have good character development. Its just eye candy and dumb fun, treat it as such |
| Well, we still got 9 Episodes Let's See what it has to show. Then we can see about that. |
| Dude you got me so butthurt, if you don't like it then don't watch it! lmao, all jokes aside tho I agree with you about the story being disappointing, this show is like 1/4 away from ending I don't really think it will improve. not only the story is disappointing but also the characters the ost is ok but the animation is supposedly impressive and supposedly good like ufotable's animation but this animation doesn't even come close to fate/zero, not even kara no kyokai. the animation is very standard but it's not really impressive. |
billybub said: Lol you're critiquing like it's supposed to be some ground breaking character study when it's a just a high budget advertisement for a game. It's like whining that the He-Man and GI Joe cartoons from the 80's didn't have good character development. Its just eye candy and dumb fun, treat it as such I'm critiquing it like any other piece of media. I know exactly what it is, as well as what it is trying--and failing--to be. That okay with you? Boss? official_brown said: I guess thoughts about characters are subjective. I like all of their personalities. It’s kinda annoying when every character is a ball of energy. I never really care about if characters are “original” or “unoriginal” anymore because usually an anime copies an anime copied an anime, same thing with most shounen/isekai/harem/romance protags. People said the same thing about Vivy when the anime came out, people said that she was boring, but I think she was a good character. I think characters can act boring but be written well. I’m not saying Takt and Cosette are. But It makes sense why Takt is the way he is, I would say his personality is a normal one in the real world. But I get what you mean. Characters/anime tastes are purely subjective. Takt sucks, but let's say for the sake of argument he is likable. Great, so what is the story doing with his character? There are plenty of great movies that explore a character with inner demons, sometimes overcoming them, sometimes succumbing to them. With this anime, it's been a lot of nothing for three episodes. I get it, he's dead inside because his father was killed by a cartoon monster right in front of his eyes. That doesn't make him inherently interesting. There's a difference between copying something and taking inspiration from it. They key is adding something new, or realizing it in an interesting and distinct way. This show has specifically failed to make good on the unique aspects of its premise, which leaves it with nothing to stand on but derivative nonsense. And characters do not need to be high energy to be well written or likeable. Not sure how you got that out of my comment in the first place. |
theGodde said: Such a shame that a show with an awesome premise, awesome animation, and unique musical identity could be let down in arguably the most important area. I would like to think the most important area of an anime themed entirely around music would not be the writing but the uhh.... idk... music? |
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official_brown said: Idk man, I think he is better than most protags so far. It’s more original than others. That’s why I said like characters is subjective. Fine, but what's the point of telling me if you can't articulate why? I don't care about random opinions any more than the next person. |
| Yeah I agree if you think about it, it's not that great. But I didn't come here to think; I went into this with next to no expectations and the result is me having quite a great time. I'm just here for mappa x madhouse and that's good enough for me! But if you're looking for a masterfully-written script, then look elsewhere. If these 3 episodes are adequate enough of an indication of what the rest of the show will be like, then what we're getting is a shallow story with some basic characters. All that said, I'm still personally really enjoying this and am satisfied with what it's giving me: a simply good time. |
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| As for me, I like the anime. The story development is great and interesting. Why I said the story development is great because: When in 1st episode, we just suddenly watch Takt playing grand piano in the middle of the town, D2 came, Takt and Destiny fight them. After that, Anna came to pick them up. Takt and Anna keep calling Takt's musicart as "Cosette" instead of "Destiny". Why and how does this happen? How Takt have musicart? Why they call Destiny, "Cosette". So, they explain it in episode 2. When in episode 3, they explain why the 3 MC go in journey to the New York, it is because of Destiny's abnormality. Well for me the story is building up just nice and it is getting interesting every time we watch it. Well, at the end this is just my opinion it is up to you if you want you watch it or not. One thing I want to say is, just don't complain about something just it doesn't suit your taste, if you don't like it don't watch it but it will be nice if you keep watching it so we all will know what happens next. Ps: I respect your opinion and this is just my opinion replying to yours ( ╹▽╹ ) Pss: I think many people will disagree with me (٥↼_↼) |
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theGodde said: SchizoidRonin said: writing is the foundation for every show. Even if the hook is music, that doesn't change the fact that the writing is essential - more essential even than the premise itselfI would like to think the most important area of an anime themed entirely around music would not be the writing but the uhh.... idk... music? That's a nice opinion you have there. |
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theGodde said: sorry but the way you say it looks like you don't like the show so... Sorry for misunderstandingSyHaqi said: you haven't said anything I disagree with fundamentally aside from Ps: I respect your opinion and this is just my opinion replying to yours ( ╹▽╹ ) Pss: I think many people will disagree with me (٥↼_↼) SyHaqi said: I'm not complaining but pointing out flaws with the show. I don't think I said anywhere that I hate this show. I actually like it a lot - especially the premise. But that hasn't prevented me from seeing flaws with the writing. One thing I want to say is, just don't complain about something just it doesn't suit your taste |
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theGodde said: writing is the foundation for every show. Even if the hook is music, that doesn't change the fact that the writing is essential - more essential even than the premise itself I just find it interesting that you think writing is THE foundation of a medium called Anime. You know... short for animation |
My taste is trash. So is yours. |
| I thought I saw this name somewhere before. You are also the dude who criticised 86. I might have to take your word with this as being a disappointment, though 1 agreement isn't enough I'd say. I can only have a look through before I feedback. Someone else said this was kinda bad too so idk what to see, but I will get there. |
| I agree with you that writing makes up a portion of anime. I don't agree with your opinion that is the SOLE foundation of the medium. theGodde said: animation is simply a medium for communicating stories with artificially created - animated - production. It being anime doesn't invalidate the fact that a show without a story (or an incredibly poor one) will be bad no matter what medium it's produced in Lack of comprehension of an art medium such as animation or music isn't justification of writing it off as a objectively bad. Sorry mate. Maybe just try reading some stories you like? |
BorderlineSchizoOct 20, 2021 7:07 PM
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theGodde said: I never said it was the SOLE foundation. This is a result of your inability to provide actual arguments to back up your own point of view - instead having to resort to making blanket statements about me having a lack of comprehension. Well actually that's exactly what you said, multiple times and that was my point. That it's not the foundation. The foundation of a house consists of multiple areas that each take a part of the load. Here's some examples: theGodde said: Such a shame that a show with an awesome premise, awesome animation, and unique musical identity could be let down in arguably the most important area. writing is the foundation for every show. Even if the hook is music, that doesn't change the fact that the writing is essential - more essential even than the premise itself You care to elaborate on why good writing being the most important foundation for tv and movies of all mediums is subjective and not an objective statement that can be proved or disproved? Not only did you say it you said it was an objective statement lol. This is why I don't need to provide any "argument" because my point was made. Especially after you backpedaled and made your initial post and argument invalid. You said that the show is bad even though you also stated that it was a "show with an awesome premise, awesome animation, and unique musical identity". Clearly contradicting yourself in your last point of saying there are multiple facets that make a show good and invalidating your entire point you were trying to make in the initial post. So now you see my point of view and even adhere too it in your most recent comment. You seem to be interested solely in arguments and I'm not. So have a nice day. |
BorderlineSchizoOct 20, 2021 7:33 PM
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