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Jul 2, 2021 5:01 PM
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I’ve never watched a BL before, but this seems to have that kind of tone from the start. Is this a Boy’s Love show?
Jul 2, 2021 5:03 PM
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No, it's just bishie/fujo bait.

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Jul 2, 2021 5:09 PM
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GasLit said:
I’ve never watched a BL before, but this seems to have that kind of tone from the start. Is this a Boy’s Love show?
it's not specified ore hinted anywhere plus there's not even romance really going on with this show , so no ( even if you got those type of vibes , there probably wouldn't be anything besides ships so no need to worry )
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Jul 2, 2021 5:09 PM
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No it’s not BL it MIGHT have some light shounen ai but you can call it bromance or whatever if it was BL it would be in the tags smh LOOK at the tags
Jul 2, 2021 5:12 PM
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If you’ve never watched BL before then how did it give you that tone? Is it because the male characters are attractive? It’s not BL btw.
Jul 2, 2021 5:18 PM
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there's definitively subtext btwn vanitas and noe but as of now in the manga it has remained so, and vani has a female love interest (who is a very interesting chara on her own and also important to the main plot) rightnow although who knows howthat will go. the mangaka doesnt shy away from maling complicated emotional connections bewteen charas and using subtext, so a big joke between manga fans is that everybody is bi in her mangas xD (the girls too!!)
Jul 2, 2021 5:20 PM
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The characters do be moving sus
Jul 2, 2021 5:41 PM
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This is not a BL show, it's just that main protagonists have a good dynamic, they are friends.
Jul 2, 2021 6:19 PM
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No!..and no ..the genre of this series no BL and as a manga reader there’s no BL..
Jul 2, 2021 6:23 PM
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AyaTeyama said:
It's not a BL. Vanitas has a female romantic interest. Noé kind of has one too. I think we have aswered this question a million times already
. Agree✨Lol.also you guys can see the tags of the series there’s no BL! And vanitas and noe have female interest pretty clear .... lol why did you guys see this as a ship? When this two character trying to kill each other
Jul 2, 2021 6:39 PM

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armin26 said:
you guys can see the tags of the series there’s no BL!

They are probably referring to bait instead of the genre itself, and not everyone trusts those tags.
Jul 2, 2021 6:47 PM

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No, both characters has a female romantic interest.





Jul 2, 2021 7:37 PM
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nyaaaaaaaaaa15 said:
armin26 said:
you guys can see the tags of the series there’s no BL!

They are probably referring to bait instead of the genre itself, and not everyone trusts those tags.
i.. omg i wish kind of stuff didn't happen in this series..i cant..
Jul 2, 2021 7:50 PM
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Nope, their relationship is just like that, other characters tease Noé for it. The anime plays it up a bit too.
Jul 2, 2021 9:03 PM

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Nope, there's a straight romance in it, the two MCs just tease each other. while the two MCs have a legit female love interest.
Jul 2, 2021 9:19 PM
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GasLit said:
I’ve never watched a BL before, but this seems to have that kind of tone from the start. Is this a Boy’s Love show?


Vanitas will fall in love with a girl later and she loves him back, so nope it's not BL. Mind checking the tags?
Jul 2, 2021 9:28 PM
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I swear people will see two attractive male characters and start freaking out over it being BL, like they're afraid that two men might kiss or something
Jul 3, 2021 2:16 AM
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I swear it's getting as bad as SAO, just because he's surrounded by many females, they automatically assume it's a harem when it's not coz they never check genre tags (Tho this series' art is that good that one who hasn't heard/read the manga before picked up some misleading vibes. I know I did)
Jul 3, 2021 2:46 AM
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ey, to all of you saying dominique is noé's love interest... yes, she's pretty much in love with him, but noé is pretty oblivious and although considers her a best friend we still don't know if it's romantic on his part or not. so don't make assumptions, the same way you don't want people to assume vannoe.
Jul 3, 2021 3:17 AM

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Altair_Nair said:
ey, to all of you saying dominique is noé's love interest... yes, she's pretty much in love with him, but noé is pretty oblivious and although considers her a best friend we still don't know if it's romantic on his part or not. so don't make assumptions, the same way you don't want people to assume vannoe.
I'm pretty sure Noe also loves Domi, but unfortunately Noe is someone that isn't heedful, some scenes in the manga also indicate that Jun hints Domi is Noe's love interest, but for Vanitas x Jeanne
Jul 3, 2021 3:18 AM
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No? A bit fujo bait like bungou stray dogs but not as much as sk8


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Jul 3, 2021 8:08 AM
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wtf no that's totally not it I've read the manga so I know and no.
Jul 3, 2021 8:49 AM
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Oh sweetie no. Not at all! no fan service like that. I read the manga , at some scenes and dialogue in the early chapters I thought ‘maybe’ but as I kept reading it’s just how the characters are & you will understand why. However so far there is no gay relationships yet and the anime is most definitely not BL.
Jul 3, 2021 3:19 PM
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Fellas is it gay to have friends?
Jul 3, 2021 4:02 PM

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Altair_Nair said:
there's definitively subtext btwn vanitas and noe but as of now in the manga it has remained so, and vani has a female love interest (who is a very interesting chara on her own and also important to the main plot) rightnow although who knows howthat will go. the mangaka doesnt shy away from maling complicated emotional connections bewteen charas and using subtext, so a big joke between manga fans is that everybody is bi in her mangas xD (the girls too!!)

Thank you for the most informative and honest answer in this thread. It cleared my doubts about this show and why it's not for me.
Jul 3, 2021 5:03 PM

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It's not BL, but it's the kind of anime that attracts the BL community.
Jul 10, 2021 5:37 AM
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Nobita-X said:
Altair_Nair said:
there's definitively subtext btwn vanitas and noe but as of now in the manga it has remained so, and vani has a female love interest (who is a very interesting chara on her own and also important to the main plot) rightnow although who knows howthat will go. the mangaka doesnt shy away from maling complicated emotional connections bewteen charas and using subtext, so a big joke between manga fans is that everybody is bi in her mangas xD (the girls too!!)

Thank you for the most informative and honest answer in this thread. It cleared my doubts about this show and why it's not for me.


I'm glad of having been of help. The fandom here on MAL is a bit... >->

Also to all of you saying this is/isn't fujobait or BL. We don't know yet, bc the manga is still being published. So we only have the objective facts of what's avaiable of the story until now. Will there only be some subtext used to enrich the main charas platonic relationship? Will there be romance between Noé and Dominique? Or Noé and Vanitas? Will Jeanne and Vanitas last? Will Vanitas die or not? Or maybe it'll all end with half the cast dead and the rest single and any feelings will remain one-sided or subtextual, and maybe one or two canon ships between the secondadry charas, as it happened in Pandora Hearts, so people. Patience, and don't make statements you can't assume are true.
Altair_NairJul 10, 2021 5:43 AM
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yes lol this is bl.
Jul 10, 2021 6:15 AM
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Both MC have female interest. It's not BL. More of BL bait.
Jul 10, 2021 8:43 AM
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Nope it's not BL, there are people who ship them but that doesn't make the anime BL
Jan 10, 2022 5:09 PM
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It is not a bl but every char seems a lil fruity
Jan 12, 2022 12:22 AM

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klaynne14 said:
I swear it's getting as bad as SAO, just because he's surrounded by many females, they automatically assume it's a harem when it's not coz they never check genre tags (Tho this series' art is that good that one who hasn't heard/read the manga before picked up some misleading vibes. I know I did)
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GasLit said:
I’ve never watched a BL before, but this seems to have that kind of tone from the start. Is this a Boy’s Love show?


Vanitas will fall in love with a girl later and she loves him back, so nope it's not BL. Mind checking the tags?
-Flaky- said:
No it’s not BL it MIGHT have some light shounen ai but you can call it bromance or whatever if it was BL it would be in the tags smh LOOK at the tags
armin26 said:
No!..and no ..the genre of this series no BL and as a manga reader there’s no BL..


I'ma introduce you all to a little series called Revolutionary Girl Utena, a classic shoujo ai series beloved by the shoujo ai fanbase that made many a child of the 90's realize they were either gay or bisexual (the latter for me).
https://myanimelist.net/anime/440/Shoujo_Kakumei_Utena?q=utena&cat=anime
Look at the tags. Look carefully.

See something missing? Oh, right. A shoujo ai tag, for a classic of the shoujo ai genre/subgenre, because MAL tags cannot be trusted. Heck, even the movie, which straight up has them kissing while naked, was only recently FINALLY tagged with a 'girls love' tag. The 3rd and 5th season of Sailor Moon are also missing Girls Love tags.

Not saying I don't believe you all when you say it isn't shounen ai, but MAL tags are often wrong. Not only that, but the magazine that this particular series is serialized in is geared more at girls and is, with some exceptions, more of a shoujo magazine. Many of the mangaka work with this magazine as opposed to a shoujo mag because shoujo magz have stricter rules and regulations than shounen mags, thus why stuff like Saiyuki, Black Butler, Pandora Hearts, Vanitas, Nabari no Ou, Dance with Devils, Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun, etc. are tagged as shounen when we all know, without a doubt, that they are shoujo. Like 100% shoujo.
Jan 24, 2022 1:30 PM

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I'm glad. For this post, I just started watching episode one and had the same question
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Sep 29, 2023 9:13 PM
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It's not BL, but Vanitas is bisexual. If referring to that interview Vanitas likes both Noe and Jeanne.
Feb 22, 11:37 PM
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Haderline said:
It's not BL, but Vanitas is bisexual. If referring to that interview Vanitas likes both Noe and Jeanne.


this is incorrect. I believe the interview you are talking about is the one where Mochizuki stated she made them to be bosom buddies/ intimate friends. Liking Noe doesn't make him bisexual he would need to be sexually inclined towards Noe which he isn't, they just have a good dynamic. Now compared to Jeanne he has actually stated what he finds attractive about her and they are a canon pair as per Mochizuki in the same interview.

As for PH being called 100% Shoujo that is just wild.
matte_urusaiFeb 22, 11:52 PM

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