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| It's just me or those episodes (all of them until now) are a bit (or more than just a bit) rushed?? They just don't catch the feeling well... The ep 1 was +/- good, the ep 2 rushed as hell, the 3rd one was rushed to the point of "confusion" (1 min a guy wanted to kill the girl, 5 mins later: let's be together forever because of things that will be poorly explained), and this one, 4th, rushed as well!! Don't they understand when an ep has poor storytelling? KingGarland said: Gilgameshuu said: Why is this so cringe and generic? They are trying to adapt a 300 chapter story within 52 episodes, that's an average of about 6 chapters per episode when a good average is 2.5-3 chapters for a Shonen. Also the story was made over 20 years ago when the story telling conventions were fresher and more common. That, young Sir, is a very poor excuse! If they need more eps to make it right just divide the show or add more eps. What they are doing to the show is "ruining" it! EDIT: Hatul said: I really want to like this show, but it's really not good Episodes 1 and 2 were rushed, but passable. Episode 3 had bad characterization, directing and editing.. And here once again we have a newly introduced character with a 600 year old grudge, having a change of heart in a matter of seconds thanks to some platitudes from Yoh. In retrospect all 4 episodes so far feel very formulaic as well. I haven't read the manga, but this show really makes you appreciate the liberties the older version took with adapting the story and the vastly superior directing it had. Watching the first episodes of both back to back, is like night and day. This version seems to be enslaved to the manga but isn't clever enough to make sensible changes to adapt to the new medium and its episode count. OH! And That! |
r_justoApr 23, 2021 8:37 AM
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
| Seeing Anna cry makes me sad, she cares for Yoh a lot. Somehow I did not expect Ryu to get infatuated with Anna, is that going to be a running joke or something? Really liked how Yoh turned the tables on Tokagerou by letting the latter posses him. |
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| Well it has been a long while since last time I read the manga so I can't remember every details from the manga, but even then I could tell this and the previous episodes was quite rushed compared to the manga. I'm still not exactly sure if 52 episodes is really enough to adapt whole 300 chapters into the anime. yellowheartren said: As for the "big issue": oh, yeah, a fictional what, 17yo having a crush on an also fictional 13yo, wow, such pedo indeed! Also totally not a real life everyday thing, these days even more so than 20 years ago... and of course, definitely infinitely worse than being engaged and living together alone at the age of 13, how dare he, bad bad Ryuu! <insert eyeroll here> I'm only curious what will the anime-only feel at the end of the anime when |
MahiaErebeaNegiApr 23, 2021 9:08 AM
Lelouch0202 said: Seeing Anna cry makes me sad, she cares for Yoh a lot. Somehow I did not expect Ryu to get infatuated with Anna, is that going to be a running joke or something? Really liked how Yoh turned the tables on Tokagerou by letting the latter posses him. Ryu's interest in underage girls is, yeah. At least in the manga, it was a running background joke, but it also makes him obsessed with Lyserg later on, because he mistook him for a loli at first meeting. Yet the feeling doesn't go away when he finds out he was a dude, so.... yeah, Ryu is weird, and that side of him definitely plays a character role in a lot of areas. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| > Weird hair Anna's insults have no bounds. Poor Ryu. He got rejected by just two words. Out of all the cast now, I find her the most entertaining to watch, at least from this episode. Yoh had to deal with another freak again. Heh, he just can't catch a break. |
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| the pacing is still really not bad so I think it's safe to say after 4 episodes that this is gonna be really good, anna is so pretty in this animation aaaaa and i forgot most of the plot so just relieving it makes me so happy, love that ryuu got his ghost partner and I'm really sad amidamaru had to destroy the sword he's beloved friend made him |
| This is an absolutely mess of an adaptation. Everything is going SO fast that i dont even get to feel anything about anyone. 4/10 |
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| Nice episode. Got to see Ryu more even though it wasn't exactly him. Looking forward to the next one. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
KingGarland said: Gilgameshuu said: Why is this so cringe and generic? They are trying to adapt a 300 chapter story within 52 episodes, that's an average of about 6 chapters per episode when a good average is 2.5-3 chapters for a Shonen. Also the story was made over 20 years ago when the story telling conventions were fresher and more common. this lol how do you expect something that came out more than 20 years ago to not be generic, when another 5 thousand anime were created in between :D |
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| Anna is so cute. Ryu got shot down quickly. LOL What a great friend Mosuke was to Amidamaru. Tokageroh, what a messed up dude. Glad that Yoh was able to make him understand his regret after all. |
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| To be fair to the anime's pacing, the manga often found itself getting way too slow a lot of the time. Especially early on where most of it was bogged down by a lot of extra fluff. While I do feel this anime is going a little faster than necessary, this episode had no business being seven chapters long in the manga. |
katie_potaty said: Am I the only one who doesn't really like Shaman King so far? Reading everyone else's comments makes me think that. I just think that literally nothing has happened so far and it's episode 4 already... the plot isn't really going anywhere and we still know as much about the characters as we did in ep 1. Think I'm gonna say adios to Shaman King. Might pick it up again when there's more eps Kids nowdays can't Appreciate the build up... This is sad. |
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davidyodo24 said: katie_potaty said: Am I the only one who doesn't really like Shaman King so far? Reading everyone else's comments makes me think that. I just think that literally nothing has happened so far and it's episode 4 already... the plot isn't really going anywhere and we still know as much about the characters as we did in ep 1. Think I'm gonna say adios to Shaman King. Might pick it up again when there's more eps Kids nowdays can't Appreciate the build up... This is sad. Right? What anime have they been watching to think "nothing has happened" thus far? It's clearly setting up characters one by one and more is brewing. I don't understand how someone can think this. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| My god that scene when Tokageroh inside Yoh, it hits my feeling... That was an good scene. Looks like bunch of people can't appreciate the build up and not enjoying the story... Only want action meaningless fight, am i right? Lmao |
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CrimsonCW said: Right? What anime have they been watching to think "nothing has happened" thus far? It's clearly setting up characters one by one and more is brewing. I don't understand how someone can think this. Idk man, i look it up that guy have watched more anime than me. I'm surprised. My guess is he didn't really like the concept but forcing himself to watched it, so probably not really focus because the interest isn't really there. So all the story just didn't stick in. |
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davidyodo24 said: katie_potaty said: Am I the only one who doesn't really like Shaman King so far? Reading everyone else's comments makes me think that. I just think that literally nothing has happened so far and it's episode 4 already... the plot isn't really going anywhere and we still know as much about the characters as we did in ep 1. Think I'm gonna say adios to Shaman King. Might pick it up again when there's more eps Kids nowdays can't Appreciate the build up... This is sad. I'm not a kid... also I just prefer something that can hook me within the first few eps |
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katie_potaty said: I'm not a kid... also I just prefer something that can hook me within the first few eps Yeah "Literally nothing happened" Idk about that one... You sure Watching the right Episode? lol |
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| Another great episode cant wait for next week. |
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SouthRzVa said: CrimsonCW said: It was always creepy, that's the point. I'm glad they didn't puss out for the sake of being PC like they did with Chocolove's lips. Remember back when people could distinguish fiction from reality and it was just funny? Yeah, I miss that time. I mean, if you find pedo comedy funny, that's on you. I'm not one to judge. It's a matter of tastes regarding media in the end. It might sound unbelievable, but Anna is 13 and Ryu is 17, they are both minors. Is it still creepy? Yes, but that's part of the joke. You're watching a Japanese cartoon with Japanese cultural influences. Creepy perverts are common in Japanese comedy in general. It might not be your thing, but you can't expect Japan to have the same views on comedy as the west. Just gotta deal with it. |
Shenic said: SouthRzVa said: I mean, if you find pedo comedy funny, that's on you. I'm not one to judge. It's a matter of tastes regarding media in the end. It might sound unbelievable, but Anna is 13 and Ryu is 17, they are both minors. Is it still creepy? Yes, but that's part of the joke. You're watching a Japanese cartoon with Japanese cultural influences. Creepy perverts are common in Japanese comedy in general. It might not be your thing, but you can't expect Japan to have the same views on comedy as the west. Just gotta deal with it. Mate, it was just a comment referring to a less-than-a-minute long scene I found curious. I'm honestly more concerned about this show's handle of pacing rather than Ryu's interest in banging 13 yo girls. |
katie_potaty said: I'm not a kid... also I just prefer something that can hook me within the first few eps A lot is going to happen next episode. If it's not interesting to you then, then it's probably just not your style. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| Ryu got "murdered" by a little girl. :D I think this episode was the best paced one so far. It did not feel like they crammed a bunch of chapters into one episode this time. I also laughed a lot during this one; very funny moments. Ryu's so dumb but he is growing on me :D "YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BESTO PUREESU!" lmao And Anna crying over Yoh was adorable; she really DOES love him. yaaaaay xD Manta: WOW! Yoh-kun predicted Toge's reaction! Anna (about to end the world) NO. HE. DID. NOT. @katie_potaty I recommend the older version if you want to know more about the characters. I am watching both versions and it works well. |
ChiibiApr 24, 2021 9:01 PM
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| For those that dislike the Talk no Jutsu The reason why Yoh trusted his body to Tokagero: -He was the result of the harsh times, thats why he was a bandit -He has a strong will to survive, thats why he ate the body of his dead mother(he was starving at the time), the anime didnt show this important info -He loved his mother(as the episode showed) Knowing all this, Yoh was confident that Tokagero was a good person that was forced to do bad things Unfortunately the pace of the anime is creating a bad reputation of Shaman King, when it really shouldn't. I hope this helped. |
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HikarusukeV3 said: For those that dislike the Talk no Jutsu The reason why Yoh trusted his body to Tokagero: -He was the result of the harsh times, thats why he was a bandit -He has a strong will to survive, thats why he ate the body of his dead mother(he was starving at the time), the anime didnt show this important info -He loved his mother(as the episode showed) Knowing all this, Yoh was confident that Tokagero was a good person that was forced to do bad things Unfortunately the pace of the anime is creating a bad reputation of Shaman King, when it really shouldn't. I hope this helped. It conveyed it all that just fine to me; I think these people just aren't paying attention, to be honest. It has nothing to do with the pacing. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| Ryuu's hair just can't get a break lol |
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| First time watcher The slice in Ryu's pompadour looks like a love heart. Just let Anna do her job, Yoh. |
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| Anna is such an enjoyable character. It's cool how Ryu returned but as expected, he didn't win. I thought it was pretty good. It wasn't my favorite of the series so far but it was enjoyable |
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Fortress_Maximus said: First time watcher The slice in Ryu's pompadour looks like a love heart. Just let Anna do her job, Yoh. Oh, it's gonna get a lot more weird than just that. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| I love the manga, but after this episode It's safe to say that this adaptation is really rushed to the point I feel like all the scenes are lacking emotion. Of course, I'm going to watch it until the last episode and I believe it will get better in later arcs, but my impression so far is: awfully fast pace. |
| Fire episode as usual. Faithful adaptation and Lizard man’s backstory was really emotional. Good dude, just some serious trauma |
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| Shows like these are the reason I am staying away from anime more and more as time goes by. I HATE the super fast pacing and the low episode counts in anime nowadays... Scenes are lacking emotion and things are not getting explained very well. I still watch the good (and long) ones with slow to normal pacing. But fast paced is not for me. I prefer live action TV shows in the west a lot more recently. A lot of long and complete shows with good pacing. |
| I'm surprised at the people commenting that this "isn't a battle shounen", because this adaptation of SK is exactly like a battle shounen: tournament-style battles between various teams/people who take down opponents, take their armor/spirits/weapons, and move forward. So far the tournament part hasn't been that emphasized, but there have been confrontations with the purpose of taking down opponents. Can't say this episode managed to keep my interest, and it was weird to see Anna break down so easily when her character's all about maintaining a strong front even when she feels weak. Not to mention how in the previous episode she was all about trusting Yoh even when he put himself in danger. So far, this show doesn't really have a "heart". |
TakafumiNaito said: Anna feels many things I'm sure, but I'd say weak is never one of them ^^'. Thank you for taking the time to explain. I guess "weak" wasn't a good word, more like "helpless", like she can't be as strong as she thinks she should, or do as much as she thinks she should. I think the direction in that scene was the bad part, because we didn't get a focus on Anna. When she broke down, both her and Manta were in the shot and the shot itself was pretty uninteresting, compared to what it could have been if we got a lingering closeup of her with voiceover saying how worried she was — especially since she had a deeper understanding of things than Manta. |
| Cool fight scene, can't wait for the next bits, going to get even better. |
It will be certified bruh moment.... tell me that at least this is explained by the plot. winddevil1 said: KingGarland said: They are trying to adapt a 300 chapter story within 52 episodes, that's an average of about 6 chapters per episode when a good average is 2.5-3 chapters for a Shonen. Also the story was made over 20 years ago when the story telling conventions were fresher and more common. this lol how do you expect something that came out more than 20 years ago to not be generic, when another 5 thousand anime were created in between :D Well, Dragon Quest was able to capture that nostalgia feel without being dragged by now generic cliches and tropes. |
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