Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 3 Discussion

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Sure, it is interesting how different cultures develop in different places. Maybe it is the type of places I've worked in. But, from my experience, Germany is so similar to the UK in culture that there is hardly any difference at all. Japan, on the other hand........

But I'm also only talking from experience so it could be that I have under represented the number of couples that get together at work in the UK. I certainly wouldn't be trying to date my boss, that would be hell! No more sick days!!

haha, exactly that. I mean if someone falls for their boss, who am I to step inbetween them. And yes, I agree, Japan work culture is different than europes and (US) american. Maybe this is also a reason why it's interesting to explore it through Manga/Anime like that.
(Even though it might be overexaggerated sometimes, the direction is always pretty similar; with those "Black companies", extreme overworking time and suicide through work, etc)

Yes, we don't even have those 'black companies' in the UK, well they don't call them that anyway, sure the government wouldn't mind. Agreed, since I have started watching anime and reading manga it has made me really interested in Japanese products and the lifestyle, and made me want to visit.

Apr 20, 2021 9:18 AM

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Erm. Women aren’t a prize lol. She can choose whoever the fuck she wants to go home with. Real turn-off? Was she trying to turn you on? Failing to see what does another woman’s actions have to do with your turn-ons/offs.

Maybe i should have explained better, she had arguments with her family and didn't want to go home, so she'd flirt outrageously with guys in our friendship group and then go home with one & did this repeatedly. It was her lack of self respect, the fact she was willing to offer her body up for a place to stay (I don't know the exact details at her home, but i think her parents were strict and she wanted to party, drink, do drugs and sleep around etc) is something that puts some guys, including me, off a woman. I know omen aren't a prize to be won, but it's the back and forth of dating i mean is exciting.

@Gab5 @Subenu I've known many couples get together from the workplace in the UK, although dating a senior is usually frowned upon (unless there's a wedding and then everyone suddenly seems fine).

Yes, as I was saying to @Subenu, I wonder if my experience isn't the norm. Definitely, dating the boss is frowned upon, on both sides. I don't think there is a problem, the main issue for me would be to have to come home and be dealing with the same issues and stresses as your partner. Depending on the job, it could even create a strain, if their work issues didn't align with each other. I wouldn't want to come home and find myself working with my girlfriend! It would feel as if you couldn't get away from work and work talk.

Yoshida, being a caring person, would probably be suited to dating a subordinate worker, not so sure how he would cope with his boss!!

As for the other stuff, depending on what people are looking for, people that end up with lots of different partners will probably put others off. Anyone who does that usually doesn't stick to the same area for very long in any case. Apart from any health issues, I suppose most people are best suited to partners who have a similar level of experience as them. In a serious relationship, no one wants to be number 15 in their 1st or 2nd relationship. The more people someone has been with, the more baggage they bring with them and a less experienced person probably isn't able to cope with that. Sayu would find it difficult to meet a partner that would be able to handle the fact that she's already been with 10 different guys at that age. Even if it isn't for the turn on/turn off reason, that person would probably lack confidence with her and would feel inadequate. In a lot of ways, someone like Yoshida would be perfect for her. Understanding, caring and who has a backbone.

Apr 20, 2021 9:20 AM

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Gab5 said:

Subenu said:

Gab5 said:

Subenu said:

Gab5 said:

Yes, I suppose. I know a couple of people but one of those couples got together after one of them left the company they both worked for. In fact, she thought it was a requirement to leave and they didn't want to work together. In the UK, a lot of people meet in bars and clubs, do many people in Japan meet by that kind of socialising? Interesting, watching anime, to see the difference. I don't think Uk or USA has the same issues with communication and misunderstanding or using honorifics, but dating workmates is less common. It does make a lot of sense. Since lockdown, no one is meeting anyone!!

At least in Europe, or more specificially Germany it's not that uncommon, I'd say. But I can't really back that up with numbers, just with personal experiences in my environment.

Sure, it is interesting how different cultures develop in different places. Maybe it is the type of places I've worked in. But, from my experience, Germany is so similar to the UK in culture that there is hardly any difference at all. Japan, on the other hand........

But I'm also only talking from experience so it could be that I have under represented the number of couples that get together at work in the UK. I certainly wouldn't be trying to date my boss, that would be hell! No more sick days!!

haha, exactly that. I mean if someone falls for their boss, who am I to step inbetween them. And yes, I agree, Japan work culture is different than europes and (US) american. Maybe this is also a reason why it's interesting to explore it through Manga/Anime like that.
(Even though it might be overexaggerated sometimes, the direction is always pretty similar; with those "Black companies", extreme overworking time and suicide through work, etc)

Yes, we don't even have those 'black companies' in the UK, well they don't call them that anyway, sure the government wouldn't mind. Agreed, since I have started watching anime and reading manga it has made me really interested in Japanese products and the lifestyle, and made me want to visit.

I can recommend it, it's a beautiful country with really nice people (not everyone,
ofc. but the people were generally really friendly and inviting).
Favorite places were Kyoto and Osaka :)

Even though it was ~ ten years ago (the year when the fukushima incident happened).

Apr 20, 2021 9:24 AM

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Subenu said:

Gab5 said:

Subenu said:

Gab5 said:

Subenu said:

Gab5 said:

Yes, I suppose. I know a couple of people but one of those couples got together after one of them left the company they both worked for. In fact, she thought it was a requirement to leave and they didn't want to work together. In the UK, a lot of people meet in bars and clubs, do many people in Japan meet by that kind of socialising? Interesting, watching anime, to see the difference. I don't think Uk or USA has the same issues with communication and misunderstanding or using honorifics, but dating workmates is less common. It does make a lot of sense. Since lockdown, no one is meeting anyone!!

At least in Europe, or more specificially Germany it's not that uncommon, I'd say. But I can't really back that up with numbers, just with personal experiences in my environment.

Sure, it is interesting how different cultures develop in different places. Maybe it is the type of places I've worked in. But, from my experience, Germany is so similar to the UK in culture that there is hardly any difference at all. Japan, on the other hand........

But I'm also only talking from experience so it could be that I have under represented the number of couples that get together at work in the UK. I certainly wouldn't be trying to date my boss, that would be hell! No more sick days!!

haha, exactly that. I mean if someone falls for their boss, who am I to step inbetween them. And yes, I agree, Japan work culture is different than europes and (US) american. Maybe this is also a reason why it's interesting to explore it through Manga/Anime like that.
(Even though it might be overexaggerated sometimes, the direction is always pretty similar; with those "Black companies", extreme overworking time and suicide through work, etc)

Yes, we don't even have those 'black companies' in the UK, well they don't call them that anyway, sure the government wouldn't mind. Agreed, since I have started watching anime and reading manga it has made me really interested in Japanese products and the lifestyle, and made me want to visit.

I can recommend it, it's a beautiful country with really nice people (not everyone,
ofc. but the people were generally really friendly and inviting).
Favorite places were Kyoto and Osaka :)

Even though it was ~ ten years ago (the year when the fukushima incident happened).

Yes, I remember that, it was awful.

for sure, it is one of the only places on my list that I still really want to go (times have changed after all) so I'm definitely going to try my best to get there. Have to work out the cherry blossom seasons for the various parts of the country!!

Apr 20, 2021 9:26 AM

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@Gab5 I wish you the best and hope you'll have the chance to do so and enjoy a very good time there! :)

Apr 20, 2021 9:30 AM

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Subenu said:
@Gab5 I wish you the best and hope you'll have the chance to do so and enjoy a very good time there! :)

Thanks! I will report back when I return!!

Apr 20, 2021 9:31 AM

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I went the year before Fukushima blew - only to Tokyo and the surrounding districts but loved every minute of it.

From the plastic food models, to the cosplay girls, Sega & Taito Arcades, Karaoke, and timing it so we were there for the cherry blossom festival in the main park.

Everyone was so polite & helpful.

Apr 20, 2021 9:49 AM

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this episode made me cry so automatic 5/5

Apr 20, 2021 10:38 AM

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penrhos said:
I went the year before Fukushima blew - only to Tokyo and the surrounding districts but loved every minute of it.

From the plastic food models, to the cosplay girls, Sega & Taito Arcades, Karaoke, and timing it so we were there for the cherry blossom festival in the main park.

Everyone was so polite & helpful.

Tokyo was also pretty awesome, Akihabara was a very delightful experience with everything. Had even a Maid help me out cutely with some kind of machine (you know those grab-n-drop thingies) where I won a mug. <3
Was there for 22 days and visited lots of places. Even had a week of typhoon? (you know those non-stop-raining-days) when walking through Kyoto and visited the golden temple the day after it got sunny again, was a bliss :3

Apr 20, 2021 10:50 AM

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Criticiza said:
Well that was uncomfortable but much needed for character development I'd say. We see her past and understand what she's feeling and having gone through with that.

Yes, thank you! At least one person here isn't thinking with his dick and isn't a pedophile. I mean, getting off of a girl forced into sexual labor as favor is just sick. Despite the depressing scene at the start, this episode does very well how Hoshino always felt.. she's doesn't enjoy the sexual favor but simply likes the idea that she can return a favor, that feeling of being needed pushed her down a slippery slope.. and it was so wholesome that the MC handled her fear and issues at the end. This episodes did very in handling the elephant in the room, it took me on an emotional rollercoaster.. the dialogue from the three characters were all amazing. Now I just wish that this anime fandom isn't filled with pedophiles, judging from the posts I've swiped passed so far. The love rectangle that's about to ensue is something I'm looking forward to cuz it seems his office kouhai also has thrown in the gauntlet. Although I'd prefer it'd be a love triangle since I can't stand the bitch that is his boss, with her boobs only her somewhat redeeming factor. All in all, it's been a while I've watched a rom-com slice of life that makes me depressed as much as it makes me happy and hopeful. 9/10

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Apr 20, 2021 10:55 AM

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TokidoRalte said:

Criticiza said:
Well that was uncomfortable but much needed for character development I'd say. We see her past and understand what she's feeling and having gone through with that.

Yes, thank you! At least one person here isn't thinking with his dick and isn't a pedophile. I mean, getting off of a girl forced into sexual labor as favor is just sick. Despite the depressing scene at the start, this episode does very well how Hoshino always felt.. she's doesn't enjoy the sexual favor but simply likes the idea that she can return a favor, that feeling of being needed pushed her down a slippery slope.. and it was so wholesome that the MC handled her fear and issues at the end. This episodes did very in handling the elephant in the room, it took me on an emotional rollercoaster.. the dialogue from the three characters were all amazing. Now I just wish the anime fandom isn't filled with pedophiles, judging from the posts I've swiped passed so far. The love rectangle that's about to ensue is something I'm looking forward to cuz it seems his office kouhai also has thrown in the gauntlet. Although I'd prefer it'd be a love triangle since I can't stand the bitch that is his boss, with her boobs only her somewhat redeeming factor. All in all, it's been a while I've watched a rom-com slice of life that makes me depressed as much as it makes me happy and hopeful. 9/10

Worst thing was I read the manga and was prepared to be slightly uncomfortable since it’s an anime but they somehow made it more unnerving, like those long exposé shots were not needed at all showing her body off, especially considering her age and detracted from the actual dialogue, feel like they could have circumvented that some way or another by focusing on their faces but instead they did that. Like the first scene helped in understanding Sayu with her dead eyes in what’s supposed to be something that’s filled with happiness but the shots of her in her underwear did not add to the story at all, since we got like 3 minutes of it straight. Once or twice would have been okay but clearly moderation wasn’t used lol. I still enjoyed the episode from a narrative standpoint though.

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Apr 20, 2021 11:03 AM

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@Criticiza
I agree, I didn't mind it that much, and would have preferred it to just show their whole bodies during the scene. But It might also have to do with making it more ... mhh.. how to sa it. ingrain the scene with more "action" instead of just them standing there and maybe switching from one to the other?!

But why they focused on showing her alluring boy-parts, which we've probably been all already aware of, is still questionable. Since the scene was so dialogue heavy, they might not have known how to do it otherwise, dunno?! xD

Apr 20, 2021 11:04 AM

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Subenu said:
@Criticiza
I agree, I didn't mind it that much, and would have preferred it to just show their whole bodies during the scene. But It might also have to do with making it more ... mhh.. how to sa it. ingrain the scene with more "action" instead of just them standing there and maybe switching from one to the other?!

But why they focused on showing her alluring boy-parts, which we've probably been all already aware of, is still questionable. Since the scene was so dialogue heavy, they might not have known how to do it otherwise, dunno?! xD

For sure! They can’t really do a bakemonogatari and throw random jerky movements with odd camera angles but they could have at least change it up a bit, it’s more irksome than anything as it didn’t take away much from the plot but it didn’t add to it either

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Apr 20, 2021 11:06 AM

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Criticiza said:

Subenu said:
@Criticiza
I agree, I didn't mind it that much, and would have preferred it to just show their whole bodies during the scene. But It might also have to do with making it more ... mhh.. how to sa it. ingrain the scene with more "action" instead of just them standing there and maybe switching from one to the other?!

But why they focused on showing her alluring boy-parts, which we've probably been all already aware of, is still questionable. Since the scene was so dialogue heavy, they might not have known how to do it otherwise, dunno?! xD

For sure! They can’t really do a bakemonogatari and throw random jerky movements with odd camera angles but they could have at least change it up a bit, it’s more irksome than anything as it didn’t take away much from the plot but it didn’t add to it either

Exactly. It' s kinda just there to be there :D

Apr 20, 2021 11:11 AM

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I love Yoshida his logic hits place and doesn't feel unreal for me which makes it believable and true to his character setting, also hope Sayu get some decent development.

Apr 20, 2021 11:19 AM

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Gab5 said:

As for Mishima, Yoshida doesn't have any feelings for her, at all, if his dense behaviour is anything to go by, seriously, how dense is this guy? Do people in Japan chase their bosses the way they do in this show? Yoshida loves Gotou (still unfairly judged by most) and Mishima is chasing Yoshida. I think I've only seen one work colleague going out with their boss, seems to be commonplace in Japan if this show is anything to go by. Asking your boss to see a movie with you, just because you did your job?

I guess Japan isn't as uptight about supervisors and subordinates dating as the USA and presumably Western European countries are. Even in the US, about 16% of couples met their spouse at work. It's pretty natural given how much time adults spend at the job and the fact that after college people's social lives generally decrease drastically.

Right? these Americans and their ignorant standard to everything.. inviting your colleagues to karaoke and movie is meant as a good practise and showing gratification. We build bonds and connections through activities like dinners, sushi shops etc. that way we get to learn more about the person & sometimes even unlikely relationship are cultivated through them.. the western standard of asking out a person for a coffee & deciding then & there if you like them and later having sex at their apartment isn't some malpractice Japan as a society normally functions. And it's not just in anime either that we still confess our love to each others. I'm dating one of my best female friend and we gradually built on those trips at the cafe and movies and the beach with other classmates.. I never thought she'd be the ONE. So, long story short.. you're watching a romance anime about nihon people.. 君

Apr 20, 2021 12:02 PM

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This episode was so good.
The first few moments the past trauma, the lifeless and feeling less eyes of sayu. Then the transition of the episode till the end with yoshida supporting. comforting her and giving sayu the feeling of being needed for who she is not for her body and how she is positively affecting his life too, made me forget about everything at the start of the episode, made it even more wholesome and enjoyable. Seeing the emotional development between these two is a refreshing sight for sure. Loved it
Hope to see more :)

Apr 20, 2021 1:32 PM

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The first scene was so unnecessary imo.. it only creates controversy

Apr 20, 2021 2:55 PM

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so Sayuu was really a slut is confirmed :/ i just can't like her unless her reason to leave her home is convincing

Apr 20, 2021 3:00 PM

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Damn, Saya was jealous seeing Yuzuha embrace Yoshida like that...

Saya was lonely when Yoshida wasnt there all day and Yoshida was so worried about her when she wasn't at their home !!

They both expressed their selves this time and so I think now they are on better terms now.

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Man, I felt so bad for Sayu in that first scene :( I want that girl to be happy!
And my respect for Yoshida keeps growing and growing!

Apr 20, 2021 4:25 PM

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I think the show so far has an interesting premise and I was not sure what to expect this episode.

that first scene was literally terrible. I would have been totally cool without it. I get why it is there, but it was super uncomfortable.

The rest of the episode was fine. I like the good emotional breakthrough at the end, but I didn't like the extended fan service shots of a teenage girl. It is gross. We don't need it. It is clear that Sayu has slept with other adults. but we don't need to see her body sexualised to get the point.

That is my biggest complaint I have with the anime. The prolonged fanservice of Sayu. I hope that calms down from here on out.

Clearly she has a thing for our MC, but I think it is a juvenile trauma response rather than feelings that should be acted on. I hope we get to see her heal and our MC date an adult.

Apr 20, 2021 8:52 PM

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i'd be fucking her every damn day lol

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I legitimately thought I downloaded the wrong show in the beginning.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.

Apr 21, 2021 1:03 AM

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whole episode was cringe

Apr 21, 2021 1:35 AM

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From this episode. It’s safe to say this is going to turn into a relationship, maybe a time skip.

Apr 21, 2021 5:06 AM

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Those early scenes were... hard to watch.. I've seen this part in the manga and while it was sad to read it didnt give me this kind of... depressing feeling.. maybe cause the manga didnt have Sayu's eyes dead while the anime made her look like a sex doll. Anyways I got a feeling we might be getting a full adaptation from the novel part, I only read the manga so I only know so much, Im really curious as to what happened to her, why or what is she running away from to the point of her using her body as a bargaining tool.

Apr 21, 2021 5:55 AM

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Biasa saja , namun backsound di saat Sayu menangis tidak benar-benar sedih ... bahkan saya tidak terharu sekalipun

(3/5) aku harap besok lebih dari ini

Apr 21, 2021 7:50 AM

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Haven't seen the manga for so long, I forgot how wholesome this can be despite being controversial ^.^

Yoshida is very cool MC, one of the top tiers :)

(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥

Apr 21, 2021 8:07 AM

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What an Heart warming episode

Apr 21, 2021 8:37 AM

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Well, that was surely a huge wise words, woman. It was surely impact much to them both!

I see the fanservices really extreme through these episode. I can see why some people get mad, i obviously shock at first when seeing it in these episode true content. Lol, what a wack. But man, ngl, my eyes got watery when seeing how tough Yoshida facing the heavy seduction from that dang girl. The end actually really wholesome and i hope its stay to be like that. Because, you know, the wholesomeness will be gone if something wild turned out between them, and i don't really approve that kind of route happen in the first place. Like i said before, and the next episode sounds to be going to what i like. The rest is shall be reveal Sayu family matter, which i initially thought will be reveal this time. But, its not. Its just kinda emphasize the relations between those two, in one room. I think its a good direction. Even though i can aggree that the fanservices really unnecessary, with those shots. But as a degenerate like me, its still fine to the finest, no big complain from me, only a little shock, at least for now. So, i am really looking forward to see more surprise from these one, really. That's it all for now.

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Apr 21, 2021 11:43 AM

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probably the best ep of the season so far, also the mal degeneracy is leaking

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I got a warning before the anime starts, that this episode contains an adult element. Ma, that's right. as I thought they had sex in the beginning. I was really tempted by it, even though it's not a hentai genre but it really arouses my lust. Sayu really sleeps with any ugly Bastard, even so Sayu has a blank stare at anyone sex partner, That expression was like that of a girl who was addicted to sex. Even though it was just for a while but I really enjoyed it, yeah give me more Sayu.

That blank stare is not the expression of someone who is addicted to sex, that was the expression of someone blankly and unfeelingly letting someone have sex with their body while emotionally utterly disengaged.

They actually used MULTIPLE indicators to ensure that people get this is a scene where she has sex because she feels she has to let him.

He moans, she doesn't.
He's moving, she isn't.
He's interacting with her, she's not responding.
He asks "Does it feel good" and her response is a halfhearted "Yeah" (actually an agreeable noise rather than even a word).
He has a climax, she doesn't.
He's satisfied and goes to sleep, she just lies there staring at the ceiling.

If you ever have sex like that with a girl and you're thinking: "Wow, she's staring blankly, she must be totally into it!"...it's probably your first time, and you're probably raping someone.

This. Very well said.

The weebs who complain about having a sex scene in this anime or how it makes it a hentai and stuff like that, I get a feeling that they don't even know the meaning behind the scenes they are watching.

Apr 21, 2021 1:29 PM

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Yoshida character design looks similar to Tomozaki from Jaku-chara

edit: wait, it's the same studio

Or Sakurai from Uzaki wa Asobitai, or Saitama from One Punch Man before going bald

Apr 21, 2021 1:32 PM

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Ken_Chen said:

This. Very well said.

The weebs who complain about having a sex scene in this anime or how it makes it a hentai and stuff like that, I get a feeling that they don't even know the meaning behind the scenes they are watching.

I, as a "weeb" myself, completely agree with this statement xD

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MoonDragon72 said:
I was expecting a really dumb unfunny comedic misunderstanding when Yoshida showed up at the park to get Sayu, but thank god there wasn't. I'm tired of seeing those in anime.

Considering that Sayu is a teenager, it makes sense that she would do something stupid like stay with men who are most likely much older than her and let them have sex with her. Let this be a lesson to the teenagers watching, don't do shit like that. I feel really bad for her too as that has given her a warped perspective of relationships.

The scene between her and Yoshida at the end was good as well but there's one big problem: STOP WITH THE CLOSE UPS OF SAYU'S BODY!!! I mean, Jesus Christ! We're trying to have an emotional moment here, I don't need to see her ass right now!

Other than that, this series has really surprised me and I'm enjoying it so far. Really looking forward to seeing what happens next.

Also, to any incels that are offended by this, go fuck yourselves.

Real shit man, you hit the nail on the head

Seeing your all capped reaction to the closeup shots of Sayu in her underwear, that means the anime did its job.

Now imagine being in Yoshida's shoes, trying to think logically while having a half naked girl in front of you asking you to have sex with her.

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Ken_Chen said:

Blue_Maroon said:

Real shit man, you hit the nail on the head

Seeing your all capped reaction to the closeup shots of Sayu in her underwear, that means the anime did its job.

Now imagine being in Yoshida's shoes, trying to think logically while having a half naked girl in front of you asking you to have sex with her.

This is actually a really good point. Thanks.
But not only this, I'd maybe add and say that you have to 'concentrate' on the stuff she says about this serious topic/moment with this distraction. (which correlates with your point, imo)

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-Stray said:
Those early scenes were... hard to watch.. I've seen this part in the manga and while it was sad to read it didnt give me this kind of... depressing feeling.. maybe cause the manga didnt have Sayu's eyes dead while the anime made her look like a sex doll. Anyways I got a feeling we might be getting a full adaptation from the novel part, I only read the manga so I only know so much, Im really curious as to what happened to her, why or what is she running away from to the point of her using her body as a bargaining tool.

I was surprised by that first scene too, even after catching up with the manga.

I was expecting that scene to be in the middle of the episode when she had her flashback like the manga. But they just threw it in the beginning, and like you said, the way they showed her dead eyes got to me again even after reading past that part in the manga.

For those who don't know, the manga showed that flashback differently, starting with the guy asking her if it's really ok, and she said yes while trembling, then cut to them having sex while interlacing with present day Sayu holding her head remembering this.

Apr 21, 2021 1:43 PM

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