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Feb 26, 2021 5:21 AM

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God-awful.

Some of you must have peanut size brains if your take is to trash Emma instead of Norman. The series went down the toilet the moment the author decided to humanize the demons and turn Norman into mini Hitler.
Feb 26, 2021 6:00 AM
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Emma really is amazing, she truly makes you understand her when she says that the demons aren’t worth eradicating. Eradicating an entire species should never be the right option, but Norman and Barbara seem to be complete psychopaths. How can they even sink so low as a person
Feb 26, 2021 6:02 AM

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Will_do_it_later said:
the episode was dull and boring, nothing interesting except Norman's flashback, most of which is just recycled material from S1. I waited one freaking week after that tension in the last scene of the previous episode about the "Evil-Blooded demon girl", I thought there would be something more interesting.

and is/will there be any follow-up on the men who attacked the shelter? like seriously they were forgotten quickly and easily, no-one even mentioned them again.

I think I am giving up on this anime and will start reading the manga -_-
The people that attacked the shelter worked with the farms... They said they would give Isabella a chance if their current mission failed, and then once those soldiers died they decided to give her a chance.
Feb 26, 2021 6:02 AM

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This second season has made a lot of comically stupid decisions, but trying to humanise the demons and making Norman out as the bad guy for rightly wanting to eradicate them is the absolute stupidest thing by a long shot. Using Emma as the mouthpiece for this forced humanising of the demons just adds insult to injury by desecrating her character, and it's so easy to hate her now because of that.

Also, don't at all see why Norman is blaming Emma and Ray for him being shipped out, when he's the one who chose to be shipped out rather than going through with their plan to get out of the situation there and then. It's as if the series has forgotten its own continuity to force through this change in plot direction.

Furthermore, if what Norman says about Mujika's blood is true, and she's been alive for at least 700 years, wouldn't it be far too late to do anything about it? Surely enough of the demons would now have that blood so as to make Norman's entire plan useless.
Feb 26, 2021 6:45 AM
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My friend, that Norman cut-off flashback cliffhanger in the end really such a suffer to see. I mean, its literally mean nothing and only served as a filler part of the episode, really. Smh.

Emma really became a centre of those worlds attention by looking how no one can't be able to resist her charm and aggree with it no matter what. Lol. Fine reaction from me, to knewing more about Mujika's past story. She was truly the savior of a poor demons, and the statue figure at those demon temple that lived so long ago to saved the demon from demons hierarchy discrimination. Ironically her power gave such a jealousy, that came from both side, the higher-ups demon, and the human themself that worked toward the noble demons. Even from this current time, by how determined Norman to kill her in order to made his plan still on schedules, no matter shit speech Emma dumped at him. He was already changed, and i pretty sure its cause by the Lambda project, no matter what that was.

So, another betting plot, Emma tried to searching up Mujika and using up her bloods, once again, to saved the demonity. The plan of Emma to eradicated the nobles one sounds good. But, its still leave some holes in everywhere. I wonder if they aggree when Emma came to them. I wonder if her bloods actually useful to the experimental human, though, i still know nothing shit. So, yeah, can't wait for the next episode, including the Norman's backstory at the Lambda research place, i guess.
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Feb 26, 2021 7:02 AM
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Will the anime also skip the seven wall arc? I wonder how they will able to finish the story without seven walls, goldy pond arc
Feb 26, 2021 7:08 AM

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Feb 26, 2021 7:35 AM
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Lol. It's really disappointing now :( I couldn't understand what would happen next.
Feb 26, 2021 7:44 AM

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Ashhk said:
So now they have 5 days to find Sonju and Mujika, it's definitely going to be interesting, but damn the most interesting thing so far is sure how Norman changed, and that end of episode really makes me want to know what is it exactly


IKR! Norman coughs blood and the next thing we see is flashback reminding us how he was gonna get sacrificed. But damn no! Someone is waiting for him in the room Who is it? How did Norman end up in the Lambda testing field. What happened to him there that he's coughing blood and has head splitting migraines. How long will his last. Will he betray Emma and Ray?!

5 days to find Sonju and Mujika. Sonju will eat them upon revelation of their plan? What new threats are Emma and co gonna face to find them? Will that change Emma's perspective about not killing demons? Will they ally with Norman in the end?!

This episode really started the intriguing factor again. Hopefully its rating in MAL will increase too (maybe).
Feb 26, 2021 8:45 AM
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Welp

Norman became Norman Yeager

And Emma became Armin

And i am a Yeagerist

I really want to slap her in the face
Feb 26, 2021 9:13 AM

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the7thfloor said:
But anyway, the obvious issue with Emma here is that, as others have mentioned, she has no plan. Unlike in the manga

I wonder why CloverWorks is allowing anime Emma to fight without a plan.

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KaiserVonGogureo said:

Ah but there is stuff added, a bunch of useless filler!


I can only think of 2 new scenes: The demon talking with Mother, and the sick demon child.
Was there anything else?

The majority of episode 4, which I thought was better than any episode that followed.
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Feb 26, 2021 9:25 AM

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A question..
Manga spoiler
Feb 26, 2021 9:33 AM
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Norman and Emma are thinking of two different ideas and now there is a deal. Whoever succeeds gets to put their plan to action. Emma must find Sonju and Mujika withing 5 days or else Norman will kill all the demons. Norman and his team are having seizures from Lambda and do not have a lot of time. Its only before a matter of time, Norman is going to trick Emma and put his plan into action. He will trick her for the second time.
Feb 26, 2021 10:26 AM
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At this point, the story's just all over the place... :(
Feb 26, 2021 11:11 AM

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Silverfrostbite said:
I am so confused rn
Is Norman bad or is Mujika bad and why did Norman cough up blood?!


Norman is coughing up blood because he was experimented on at 'Lambda'.

Mujika was labelled "Evil-blooded" by the Demon King and royalty because they wanted to eliminate her.It was propaganda.
Feb 26, 2021 11:29 AM

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absortio said:
A question..
Manga spoiler


FULL MANGA SPOILERS

Feb 26, 2021 11:42 AM
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This set up a lot im guessing. For me this next episode with Norman's pov post shipping HAS to be great for the sake of the season.i also kind of find it funny that my new favorite scene of the season was the flashback of s1. Hearing that music made me so sad, this season really just does not hit like s1 did
Feb 26, 2021 11:45 AM

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Norman's gonna die lmao. how the hell is not killing the demons going to help the 'farm food' lol. And wowee Grace Field was the location of the portal the entire time
Feb 26, 2021 12:00 PM

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Emma: "I want to save all kids".

Norman: "Okay just kill the demons".

Emma: "I don't wanna kill the demons".

Norman: "Okay I'll just back out".

Emma: "I don't want that".



Yeh ... Her character never was anything special for me, but I'm starting to hate her now
Feb 26, 2021 12:04 PM
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i liked emma in season 1 but shes just so naive especialy this episode it realy pissed me off how emma was like maybe we and demons can hug it out, this reminds me of whats going on in aot right now eren is rational(in this case norman) and armin(this case emma) is all well maybe we can havve peace, like they forgot the shit that happened i hope normans plans suceed same with eren, but it probaly wontbecause of some bs reasoning
Feb 26, 2021 12:14 PM

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hakaihisaki said:
KaiserVonGogureo said:

Ah but there is stuff added, a bunch of useless filler!


I can only think of 2 new scenes: The demon talking with Mother, and the sick demon child.
Was there anything else?


How could you forget the fish scene my friend, or how about that entire montage of the kids in the bunker, or that totally useless scene in the anime of finding the writings on the wall that was NEVER mentioned again, or that oh so needed scene of the idiot duo of Thoma and the other guy begging to go outside
Feb 26, 2021 12:16 PM
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Holo-san said:
I swear... the IQ of Emma and Ray dipped in the two digits in this season. Emma litterally not thinking of anything but "uh.. but friends" (actually, what friends? what kids? what demon family? we haven't seen you interact with any demon so far except Mujika and Sonju), without thinking of ways to save her siblings first and Ray accepting everything she says because "she's Emma, that's what she does".
I would accept this friendly behaviour if they actually showed us any positive interaction between Emma and the demons, but all they gave us are just shots of Emma and company walking in the market of god knows what city. What the hell are the director and manga author smoking right now? powdered wasabi? Did they forget that they actually needed some more character development to explain this stupid choice that Emma took?
exactly if they can just let norman do his thing kill those demons, they could live happily ever after but no they have to make a whole bs reason to not let him do it and besides those 2 demon kids who were sick what ws the whole point of outting them in the story, i hoped emma and ray would befriend them or such but no this serie is going to shit, just like aot, eren is thinking rational and armin is like we can just hug it out its like they forget all the bloodshed
Feb 26, 2021 12:17 PM

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IMCALLEDCOOL said:
Emma really is amazing, she truly makes you understand her when she says that the demons aren’t worth eradicating. Eradicating an entire species should never be the right option, but Norman and Barbara seem to be complete psychopaths. How can they even sink so low as a person


She made me understand one thing, that she's a dumbass
Feb 26, 2021 1:18 PM

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k0rvus said:
Will_do_it_later said:
the episode was dull and boring, nothing interesting except Norman's flashback, most of which is just recycled material from S1. I waited one freaking week after that tension in the last scene of the previous episode about the "Evil-Blooded demon girl", I thought there would be something more interesting.

and is/will there be any follow-up on the men who attacked the shelter? like seriously they were forgotten quickly and easily, no-one even mentioned them again.

I think I am giving up on this anime and will start reading the manga -_-
The people that attacked the shelter worked with the farms... They said they would give Isabella a chance if their current mission failed, and then once those soldiers died they decided to give her a chance.



but it really didn't make any sense, because it is supposed that the human and demon worlds are separated many many years ago, and there are so many demon pursuers and soldiers, why would they send human soldiers instead. nvm me, I'm just ranting here lol
Feb 26, 2021 2:03 PM
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Non-manga watcher here but everything that made the first season great (the dread, the tension, the curiosity about the outside world) is absent from season 2.

None of the motivations make sense, Emma (who I liked in S1) is infuriating.
Feb 26, 2021 3:31 PM
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If I were an anime only, the show would be probably still very enjoyable and exciting but knowing that they cut out so many important charcacters is disappointing.
Feb 26, 2021 4:19 PM
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I can't endure Emma's ideology. So so dumb. Why make the protagonist so annoying?

Anyway this confirms it for me, I really hate the direction this story is going in.

Only thing that I have to say it improved is the episodes are at least entertaining enough to watch and and not a slog like the first 4 episodes. Some things happening, even if the pacing is terrible, the direction the story is going in is unlikable and the plot literally moved forward just because of a plot device that appeared out of nowhere (the drug) instead of building up to it (they will probably compensate for this by flashbacks right?), but hey, it's least there's something to watch in the episodes at the moment.
Feb 26, 2021 4:23 PM
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KaiserVonGogureo said:
IMCALLEDCOOL said:
Emma really is amazing, she truly makes you understand her when she says that the demons aren’t worth eradicating. Eradicating an entire species should never be the right option, but Norman and Barbara seem to be complete psychopaths. How can they even sink so low as a person


She made me understand one thing, that she's a dumbass


Exactly. So dumb and naive. Very annoying and irritating to listen to her talk in such idealistic manner. The problem is it's clear this ideology is impossible to be put in practice. At one point everyone will realize that it's kill or killed and just move on. I mean this is the only approach that makes sense. Imagine if this anime ends up with Demons and humans living in peace? I mean I know it's somewhat obvious the author doesn't know how to put the story in a good direction but he can't be this dumb to end such story like this.

This is mostly just to drag the plot and nothing else.
Feb 26, 2021 4:24 PM
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This second season has made a lot of comically stupid decisions, but trying to humanise the demons and making Norman out as the bad guy for rightly wanting to eradicate them is the absolute stupidest thing by a long shot. Using Emma as the mouthpiece for this forced humanising of the demons just adds insult to injury by desecrating her character, and it's so easy to hate her now because of that.


not "the 2nd season" the manga
Feb 26, 2021 4:26 PM

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God that was pure fucking trash. Emma is a such a god awful character. Compared to all the other humans in this world, she is such a privileged piece of shit. Yeah I'm sure you enjoyed your cushy life in the nicest farm in entire world and then met some real dandy demons who just happened to be the key that allow her moronic ideals to maybe become a reality. Meanwhile kids in other shitty farms are being treated as less than cattle/and or getting experimented on like the kids that are with Norman. The author is really trying to insult my intelligence with this one. Fucking abomination.
Feb 26, 2021 6:08 PM
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wait, we have 4 episodes left.... why are we starting a flashback now?
Feb 26, 2021 6:17 PM
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DatRandomDude said:
wait, we have 4 episodes left.... why are we starting a flashback now?

I've heard from a good source that we are getting more flashbacks about fishing, I believe their fishing adventures is actually more interesting than the rest of the plot.
Feb 26, 2021 7:16 PM
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A lot can happen in a year. Norman obviously changed. If Norman is experiencing seizure, then it means he was also experimented just like the others? Or it's because of other problem, maybe because he's too overworked or something.

Feb 26, 2021 7:33 PM

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Sorry but seeing Barbara going hysterical each episode is starting to become comical at this point. Girl, I'm aware you went through hell at Lambda but you don't have to remind it to me every time you get screen time.

Well, I'm still kinda disappointed with how little menacing this Norman looks but other than that, it was a good episode. The clashing POVs between pacifist Emma and Ere... uh, Norman were established quite satisfactorily and now with the revelation of Norman not having much time left, I wonder if he will really go against his sister's promise and start killing demons while she and Ray are gone.

This said, it also seems that next episode we will be having Norman's POV at Lambda after leaving Grace Field so I'm particularly looking forward to that. Concluding the episode with "Isabella's Lullaby" was a really pleasant surprise, by the way.
Feb 26, 2021 9:10 PM
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ik that ppl are hating on this show, but i kinda liked this episode yk, i mean sre the manga is good, but the anime isnt as bad as people are saying. i like the anticipation of the show and so far im loving it idc what anyone says. anyone agree with moi?
Feb 26, 2021 9:11 PM
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Sorry but seeing Barbara going hysterical each episode is starting to become comical at this point. Girl, I'm aware you went through hell at Lambda but you don't have to remind it to me every time you get screen time.

Well, I'm still kinda disappointed with how little menacing this Norman looks but other than that, it was a good episode. The clashing POVs between pacifist Emma and Ere... uh, Norman were established quite satisfactorily and now with the revelation of Norman not having much time left, I wonder if he will really go against his sister's promise and start killing demons while she and Ray are gone.

This said, it also seems that next episode we will be having Norman's POV at Lambda after leaving Grace Field so I'm particularly looking forward to that. Concluding the episode with "Isabella's Lullaby" was a really pleasant surprise, by the way.


i did actually like barbara's bit, her VA did great too. it just shows how much they hate the demons ig
Feb 26, 2021 11:00 PM
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Jesus christ I can't stand emma anymore shes a grade A dumbass. This whole season is a disappointment
Feb 27, 2021 1:13 AM
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People you have to remember. 80% of anime is nothing more that over glorified super expensive advertisement for either manga or light novels.
The promised neverland manga is over and worse it ending with rather meh sales and reception.
The clearance for the second season of the show probably happened behind the scenes around the time the first show was airing and the manga's popularity AND ITS POTENTIAL was at its highest. Meaning that the contract was already made and set in stone before the manga's fall into mediocrity.
Now that the show is actually here now to air its possible that they're just trying to rush to an anime only ending and write this show off as a failure.

(especially considering how popular horimiya and wonder egg priority, 2 other shows airing at the same time TPL season 2 is airing , is they might want to transfer resources from the TPL project to either of those two projects in an attempt to actually make something worthwhile.
Feb 27, 2021 1:43 AM

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Emma: ''We have to do this!!''
Everyone: '' Yes our Queen!''

This is getting kinda dumb in my opinion, only who is keeping this above water is Norman in this moment.
Feb 27, 2021 2:29 AM
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Everyone is calling Emma naïve and a bitch (jesus christ people) but even if Emma had the "kill all demons" mindset, how would a bunch of kids accomplish that? The pacifist route she's going for is much less ambitious and, you know, actually attainable for literal children. I don't know how the manga ends but this demon erradication that everyone is advocating for would need a lot of aging up for everyone and collaboration with the existing humans. Norman's plan just doesn't seem feasible as he and his gang are now.

Everything else that is said about the pacing and all that, I agree with.
Feb 27, 2021 3:37 AM

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Honestly a better episode this season and that's purely based on the build-up and the less rushed feeling I got from the episode. Still not feeling the direction the Anime wants to go, especially with the whole "Kill or not kill the demons" debate. If I am honest, I am with Norman on this, cause not wanting to kill the demons cause they got friends and family as well just doesn't bode well with me, after they have used humans for food.

That demon in the basement was a nice surprise and to see that Norman and his supporters are all suffering from the experiments they have undergone... Barbara's va did an amazing job again.
Feb 27, 2021 6:01 AM

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This episode felt pretty tense and both Emma and Norman clashed between each other about their plans. Emma wants to go down the route of not wanting to annihilating all demons while Norman's plan is to eradicate them all.

Both made some good and rather weak arguments, but in the end, they came to a compromise of Emma and Ray going to find Sonju and Mujika within 5 days. However, Norman's true intentions remain the same, as the scene with his crew showed. Seeing a large demon corpse did surprise me, though.

Sadly, it looks like Norman doesn't have much time left as he coughed up a lot of blood. We also got shown his departure from Grace Field House again, so hopefully this time we'll be able to see what truly happened to him after he left the house.

Once again, it helps that I'm an anime-only so I did enjoy this episode for what it is.
Feb 27, 2021 6:24 AM

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A honestly good episode this time around, I hope the remaining few to come can keep the same level of quality so that I don't have to read the manga. Stories I've seen in animated form are never the same without the soundtrack even if they tell more of the story.


Edit: Wow at the episode scores, I have honestly never seen this type of spread before!
Feb 27, 2021 6:38 AM
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Man, things are getting better and better right now!

I don't know if the first five episodes disappointed me so much that I ended up holding on to any good aspect of the show, but I am really enjoying all the drama around the dilemma of vendetta vs. compromise.

I feared that Emma would become dangerously dumb due to her radical empathy, but she actually has a strategy! She told Norman: let's attack the farms, let's aim the rich and powerful demons, those who actually hurt humans, but please spare the civilians!

By doing so, our dearest Miss Geneva Conventions is not putting aside the plan to save the children, nor going against Norman's and Ray's realistic mindset that "everyone always acts on their own self-interest". She's trying to stick with the plan more effectively without turning even more demons against them. Although her heart speaks louder, she is also using her head! She is, as said Bertrand Russell, being "inspired by love and guided by knowledge."

Now I understand why they rushed the anime so much: to focus on the drama! Was it a good bet? Probably not. So far, I can't tell for sure. But still, it's definately worth watching!
Feb 27, 2021 6:43 AM
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Oh boy I really don't like Emma naive thinking in this episode....
Idk why i feel like this decision would lead to somebody death in the future for sure...

Surprisingly i feel like this episode is really good especially with the end scene...

And we go back to the scene where Norman Left Grace Field...
Who is that??? ( Are this scene from the Manga or not?)
God damn the cliffhanger 😡
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Garbage anime. Can't stand the "ITS WRONG TO KILL DEMONS" thing. Noo not muh demons i would rather die than killing them all! Trash story.
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Feb 27, 2021 6:47 AM
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This feels like some kind of fanfiction with how bad the pacing is. How does Norman appear out of nowhere? How the fuck does he develop the demon-killing drug or whatever? How does he know so much of Mujika? Why does Emma develop such fucking affection for demons?

Man, I'm gonna predict they'll make a Last of Us II type of bullshit flashback as to why we should care about demons so much.

This isn't quite at the God of Highschool Pacing, but it's bad. At least God of Highschool had some epic fights to keep us entertained. This just feels me with disappointment.


If they go back with flashback, I'm fine with that...
I like my non linear storytelling...
Feb 27, 2021 7:12 AM
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it is perfectly natural to want to eradicate a race of fairytale monsters that treats your entire race as nothing more than cattle. it's eat or be eaten the literal natural order of things. this bitch ass emma isn't even morally in the right. stuck in the wrong show.
Feb 27, 2021 7:52 AM

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The production quality of this show is good,no really.I could actually see how good this would've been hadn't they rushed it.I am still in favour of the overall plot.Quite sad this was rushed but I guess there was no point in making another season,since manga finished already.They just tried to wrap up the story so that we can atleast have a ending.Although I wished it'd been otherwise
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