My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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Aug 21, 2020 7:03 AM
#101
Fantastic episode, those 2 friends of Zaimokuza are actually fucking great. That rap battle had me dead lmao, Tamanawa was actually really good holy shit Hachiman was right in the next episode preview he got some bars. After realizing that he surely lost Yui just wants to spend some time with Yukino again, bless you Yui I am sure you will find someone else. I can't wait for next episode. |
Aug 21, 2020 7:06 AM
#102
Tamanawa and Sore Aru girl is back! The rap is fun at first but became cringe afterward. Stop it. Also how they teasing Yui is nice. Yui is cute. Hachiman Yukino moment... "Our desires are the same", that's deep. |
Aug 21, 2020 7:16 AM
#103
NakolHira said: Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine) Hikigaya doesn't have a problem with people lying, as evidenced by his forgiveness for Yukinoshita when she lied about the information that she was there at the start of his lonerdom, the car crash that started it all. He accepts that he lies too but what he dislikes is lying to himself -- which in it's own doesn't fit his definition of the "real" or "genuine" thing he talks about, but his hatred of self-deception is a personal trait of his. For his definition of genuine, he explicitly states that he doesn't want friendship or love, but complete understanding of the people around him, he wants to share a relationship where he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Arguably Yui is the closest to his definition of genuine because she is the most perceptive when it comes to Hikigaya; in the genuine scene, she completely understood Hikigaya to the point where he was surprised when he doesn't want to be understood while Yukinoshita ran away because she doesn't know what he meant. There's a lot of instances too where Hikigaya is in the downs, Yui tries to cheer him up while Yukinoshita is too focused on work though she kinda learns how to be considerate of him as the series progresses. Though in reality, Hikigaya does have a relative bias towards Yukinoshita lol. But eh, it's entirely subjective and open to interpretation. That's the beauty of Oregairu after all. |
ToraiSAug 21, 2020 7:20 AM
Aug 21, 2020 7:43 AM
#104
ToraiS said: first of all, Yukinoshita didn’t lie. She didn’t get off the car to see who was there. Her family handled the situation, and they tried to keep Yukino out of it. When Yukino said "I don’t know you" she didn’t lie,she actually had no idea who the victim was, but she didn’t tell the truth.The first time she realised Hachiman was the victim was after their introduction, way after Yukino telling "I didn’t know you " NakolHira said: Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine) Hikigaya doesn't have a problem with people lying, as evidenced by his forgiveness for Yukinoshita when she lied about the information that she was there at the start of his lonerdom, the car crash that started it all. He accepts that he lies too but what he dislikes is lying to himself -- which in it's own doesn't fit his definition of the "real" or "genuine" thing he talks about, but his hatred of self-deception is a personal trait of his. For his definition of genuine, he explicitly states that he doesn't want friendship or love, but complete understanding of the people around him, he wants to share a relationship where he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Arguably Yui is the closest to his definition of genuine because she is the most perceptive when it comes to Hikigaya; in the genuine scene, she completely understood Hikigaya to the point where he was surprised when he doesn't want to be understood while Yukinoshita ran away because she doesn't know what he meant. There's a lot of instances too where Hikigaya is in the downs, Yui tries to cheer him up while Yukinoshita is too focused on work though she kinda learns how to be considerate of him as the series progresses. But eh, it's entirely subjective and open to interpretation. That's the beauty of Oregairu after all. And for your second part, your definition of Genuine, I at least agree with it. There’s more, Hikigaya once said "It’s like my partner would accompany me to seabed if I want it’s that level of trust" Hiratsuka Sensei at the last chapter concludes with "If your feelings for a girl involves jealousy, love, trust, hatred and everything, then probably just saying I love you isn’t enough. Probably that's what genuine means" And I disagree with Yuigahama being close to Hachiman's genuine. >she completely understood Hachiman in the genuine scene Yuigahama disagrees. She herself tried her best to explain what Hachiman meant to Yukino, and failed, and said "I don’t understand". >he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Yes, but what Yui said in the genuine scene? " if you don’t talk to us how are we supposed to understand? " see again Yuigahama herself disagrees with genuine. Lol she directly said she doesn’t want something genuine, because she herself doesn’t understand a bit what he meant by genuine. And finally, "cheering him when he is down" is indeed a good thing. But it has nothing to with Hachiman's genuine. Rather, Hachiman almost everytime believes he is in wrong. Yuigahama just cheers him up, but she fails to give a Solution when he hits the wall. Hachiman's genuine thing also involves this, that his partner wouldn’t hesitate to oppose him when he is in wrong. Does Yui ever tried to right Hachiman's wrapped character? Answer is "BIG NO". She rather chooses to side him when he is making mistakes (*See after the SCP election*, Yui sides with Hachiman to maintain the status quo, against Yukino who believed their friendship was strong enough that one election wouldn’t change the shape of it.The result is Hachiman finally finding his way from Sensei, leading him to genuine scene, thus correcting his mistakes) |
Aug 21, 2020 7:51 AM
#105
Well.. I'm not too sure I enjoy the plot too much of this season.. This anime overall became too much of planning and organizing some school events.. Which isn't that interesting, to be honest.. Organizational work, yeah.. Even if it's important, anime about that is.. Well, author chose his topics, I guess.. "Aru~" lol ;P We're starting rapping?.. Well.. That's one way to make planning entertaining, I guess.. Well, at least some comedy is being added here and there.. So it's not too boring to get through part we've already seen times and times again of organizing.. This time it's led by comedy.. I guess, it's nice to see different work group who does things lightly like this, as opposed to how things went on festival, for example.. Or how long it took with the arc where Iroha planned with the other school.. A different approach this time is nice.. I'm not too sure about Yui's feelings towards Yukino.. She at the same time loves her, but would want for her to understand Yui's "wish"?.. Or not understand, but name it for Yui?.. And what is that wish?.. Shipper on the deck?.. |
Aug 21, 2020 7:53 AM
#106
tazotaku said: I have a feeling that this anime will have an unhappy ending! tazotaku said: Yeah, don't worry about that, you'll be satisfied.I have a feeling that this anime will have an unhappy ending! |
Aug 21, 2020 7:56 AM
#107
ToraiS said: What a nice way of saying you don't want Hachiman and Yukino to end up together. Just brilliance.NakolHira said: Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine) Hikigaya doesn't have a problem with people lying, as evidenced by his forgiveness for Yukinoshita when she lied about the information that she was there at the start of his lonerdom, the car crash that started it all. He accepts that he lies too but what he dislikes is lying to himself -- which in it's own doesn't fit his definition of the "real" or "genuine" thing he talks about, but his hatred of self-deception is a personal trait of his. For his definition of genuine, he explicitly states that he doesn't want friendship or love, but complete understanding of the people around him, he wants to share a relationship where he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Arguably Yui is the closest to his definition of genuine because she is the most perceptive when it comes to Hikigaya; in the genuine scene, she completely understood Hikigaya to the point where he was surprised when he doesn't want to be understood while Yukinoshita ran away because she doesn't know what he meant. There's a lot of instances too where Hikigaya is in the downs, Yui tries to cheer him up while Yukinoshita is too focused on work though she kinda learns how to be considerate of him as the series progresses. Though in reality, Hikigaya does have a relative bias towards Yukinoshita lol. But eh, it's entirely subjective and open to interpretation. That's the beauty of Oregairu after all. |
A_G_NAug 21, 2020 8:16 AM
Aug 21, 2020 7:58 AM
#108
This episode was hilarious! That dude with the hand movements is so funny, hachiman challenged him to a rap battle and it was awesome, I couldn't stop laughing. We FINALLY got our first "Yahallo" of this season and a bit of drama at the end. Great episode! |
Aug 21, 2020 8:06 AM
#109
Gendolfas said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. Well.. I'm not too sure I enjoy the plot too much of this season.. This anime overall became too much of planning and organizing some school events.. Which isn't that interesting, to be honest.. Organizational work, yeah.. Even if it's important, anime about that is.. Well, author chose his topics, I guess.. "Aru~" lol ;P We're starting rapping?.. Well.. That's one way to make planning entertaining, I guess.. Well, at least some comedy is being added here and there.. So it's not too boring to get through part we've already seen times and times again of organizing.. This time it's led by comedy.. I guess, it's nice to see different work group who does things lightly like this, as opposed to how things went on festival, for example.. Or how long it took with the arc where Iroha planned with the other school.. A different approach this time is nice.. I'm not too sure about Yui's feelings towards Yukino.. She at the same time loves her, but would want for her to understand Yui's "wish"?.. Or not understand, but name it for Yui?.. And what is that wish?.. Shipper on the deck?.. |
Aug 21, 2020 8:16 AM
#110
Atavistic said: This episode was cringeworthy to watch, and the show is turning Hachiman into an absolute caricature of himself for the sake of "comedy". It was a nice break from the constant drama I suppose, but this episode is the last straw for me: this season has worn me thin and I just don't care anymore. Not about this prom, not about the romance, not about any of it. It's a real shame, too, as I adored season 2 but I just can't force myself to slog through this melodramatic, childish, cringeworthy mess anymore, even though we aren't far from the end at all. EDIT: Should say I do still respect the quality of the writing of this series in terms of its sheer depth and nuance for the characters, but unfortunately once you lose that emotional connection and stop caring about what's happening, it doesn't matter how objectively well written something is. I've looked up spoilers for the LN ending (I think it sounds pretty shitty, to be honest), so with that I'm done with Oregairu. I think I've just moved on in life from the point where this series resonates with me anymore. Hold the hell up this person has me worried the show will have a bad ending plz no have it end well and not be pretty shitty like the person above said someone please reassure me wothout spoiling 🙏🙏 |
Aug 21, 2020 8:18 AM
#111
civonad said: Its gonna be fine, he's favourite ship or something might not have sailed or something, dont worry, its an happy endingAtavistic said: This episode was cringeworthy to watch, and the show is turning Hachiman into an absolute caricature of himself for the sake of "comedy". It was a nice break from the constant drama I suppose, but this episode is the last straw for me: this season has worn me thin and I just don't care anymore. Not about this prom, not about the romance, not about any of it. It's a real shame, too, as I adored season 2 but I just can't force myself to slog through this melodramatic, childish, cringeworthy mess anymore, even though we aren't far from the end at all. EDIT: Should say I do still respect the quality of the writing of this series in terms of its sheer depth and nuance for the characters, but unfortunately once you lose that emotional connection and stop caring about what's happening, it doesn't matter how objectively well written something is. I've looked up spoilers for the LN ending (I think it sounds pretty shitty, to be honest), so with that I'm done with Oregairu. I think I've just moved on in life from the point where this series resonates with me anymore. Hold the hell up this person has me worried the show will have a bad ending plz no have it end well and not be pretty shitty like the person above said someone please reassure me wothout spoiling 🙏🙏 |
Aug 21, 2020 8:20 AM
#112
Hemantitachi1996 said: The thing is Yui is a completely human character, she's the most human character in the series, the reason LN readers bash her is because her scenes are never cut or she's made to be glorified in the anime, while Yukino's scenes go down the drain as you know in s1 and s2, even Iroha's scenes are almost all adapted. The sheer amount of Yukino cut's might have made readers mad, because best girl doesnt get enough screentime(not this season, this seasons fine). And we see anime watchers saying Yui should end uo with Hachiman bcz she acts nice to him, basically thats why readers bash her, you try to force something to be appealed more, its prob gonna have the oppsite effect of everybody hating her, if you know what I mean.. I personally dont hate yui, I used to like her, but after the cuts and stuff, I'm indiffernet now, I understand her intentions but thats it, but she's no means bad or anything..I read light novel and I know yui is being selfish but you know what oregairu is close to real life situation.. If you see it by yui's POV that's what real life person will do.. I am seeing lot of people bashing her but y'all don't want to understand her character, try to put yourself in her shoes... My favorite one is yukino and I want her and 8man to be together desperately but at the same time I understand yui's behavior if any one of you any point of your life go through what yui's is going you'll understand her character rather than bashing and calling out her.. as much as I want yukino to be with 8man, I just want people to understand why yui's is acting like that, because that's what real life person will do. We like yukino more that does not mean it qualify us to bash yui.. Put yourself in her shoo.. Yeah I know LN reader gonna bash her, I am one of the LN reader but POV matters, I am not gonna go and start ranting about selfish and manipulative behavior i rather understand it through real life perspective.. |
Aug 21, 2020 8:22 AM
#113
A_G_N said: Hemantitachi1996 said: The thing is Yui is a completely human character, she's the most human character in the series, the reason LN readers bash her is because her scenes are never cut or she's made to be glorified in the anime, while Yukino's scenes go down the drain as you know in s1 and s2, even Iroha's scenes are almost all adapted. The sheer amount of Yukino cut's might have made readers mad, because best girl doesnt get enough screentime(not this season, this seasons fine). And we see anime watchers saying Yui should end uo with Hachiman bcz she acts nice to him, basically thats why readers bash her, you try to force something to be appealed more, its prob gonna have the oppsite effect of everybody hating her, if you know what I mean.. I personally dont hate yui, I used to like her, but after the cuts and stuff, I'm indiffernet now, I understand her intentions but thats it, but she's no means bad or anything..I read light novel and I know yui is being selfish but you know what oregairu is close to real life situation.. If you see it by yui's POV that's what real life person will do.. I am seeing lot of people bashing her but y'all don't want to understand her character, try to put yourself in her shoes... My favorite one is yukino and I want her and 8man to be together desperately but at the same time I understand yui's behavior if any one of you any point of your life go through what yui's is going you'll understand her character rather than bashing and calling out her.. as much as I want yukino to be with 8man, I just want people to understand why yui's is acting like that, because that's what real life person will do. We like yukino more that does not mean it qualify us to bash yui.. Put yourself in her shoo.. Yeah I know LN reader gonna bash her, I am one of the LN reader but POV matters, I am not gonna go and start ranting about selfish and manipulative behavior i rather understand it through real life perspective.. Bruh ive waited 5 years for hachiman and yukino to finally be together🙏🙏🙏🙏 Also what did u mean by not this season this seasons fine? Because yukino is getting barely any screentime this season. |
Aug 21, 2020 8:23 AM
#114
Aug 21, 2020 8:27 AM
#115
Aug 21, 2020 8:29 AM
#116
Can anyone explain to me why everyone thinks yukino wants to end the service club or their friendships in general? cuz ik she wants hachiman but does she want to end things with yui so she wont get hurt? |
Aug 21, 2020 8:51 AM
#117
NakolHira said: Withholding information is still lying. The excuse that he was supporting Komachi was the truth, but it is only half of the truth. That's why when Yukinoshita confronted Hikigaya in the mall in the SCP election, she was like "I see..." because calling him out because he was lying was hypocrisy because she used that tactic on him first.first of all, Yukinoshita didn’t lie. She didn’t get off the car to see who was there. Her family handled the situation, and they tried to keep Yukino out of it. When Yukino said "I don’t know you" she didn’t lie,she actually had no idea who the victim was, but she didn’t tell the truth.The first time she realised Hachiman was the victim was after their introduction, way after Yukino telling "I didn’t know you " NakolHira said: And for your second part, your definition of Genuine, I at least agree with it. There’s more, Hikigaya once said "It’s like my partner would accompany me to seabed if I want it’s that level of trust" Hiratsuka Sensei at the last chapter concludes with "If your feelings for a girl involves jealousy, love, trust, hatred and everything, then probably just saying I love you isn’t enough. Probably that's what genuine means" And I disagree with Yuigahama being close to Hachiman's genuine. >she completely understood Hachiman in the genuine scene Yuigahama disagrees. She herself tried her best to explain what Hachiman meant to Yukino, and failed, and said "I don’t understand". >he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Yes, but what Yui said in the genuine scene? " if you don’t talk to us how are we supposed to understand? " see again Yuigahama herself disagrees with genuine. Lol she directly said she doesn’t want something genuine, because she herself doesn’t understand a bit what he meant by genuine. Precisely the point that she understood the most because she doesn't understand. The quote, "If you don't talk to us, how are we supposed to understand?" is definite proof that she caught on what Hikigaya was supposed to say. Because Hikigaya's genuine request isn't something logical, you're not supposed to understand it since it's hard to explain it in words alone. It is just simply felt. Which Yukinoshita fails to comprehend an emotional argument, when she is always used to thinking logically so she runs away; while Yui says "...And I probably never will. But, like, I guess I understand that…" Which prompts Hikigaya to think about how Yuigahama could speak so clearly about what he meant. NakolHira said: And finally, "cheering him when he is down" is indeed a good thing. But it has nothing to with Hachiman's genuine. Rather, Hachiman almost everytime believes he is in wrong. Yuigahama just cheers him up, but she fails to give a Solution when he hits the wall. Hachiman's genuine thing also involves this, that his partner wouldn’t hesitate to oppose him when he is in wrong. Does Yui ever tried to right Hachiman's wrapped character? Answer is "BIG NO". She rather chooses to side him when he is making mistakes (*See after the SCP election*, Yui sides with Hachiman to maintain the status quo, against Yukino who believed their friendship was strong enough that one election wouldn’t change the shape of it.The result is Hachiman finally finding his way from Sensei, leading him to genuine scene, thus correcting his mistakes) True that the act of cheering him on isn't really part of the definition of "genuine" but what does count is that Yuigahama clearly can sense when he's down without him saying anything. She isn't a yes-woman all the time though, she lacks the skill to speak her mind like Yukinoshita does but she can definitely reprimand him in her own way. She was the first one to beg him not to self-sacrifice again in the Ebina confession scene. Yuigahama sides with Hikigaya at the student council election but because of different reasons and with different methods but ultimately on the same side. Hikigaya decided to maintain the status quo on his own because he doesn't want to admit that he did something wrong because he believed that the two does not care about him. Even Hayama, a person who is bound to everyone's expectations, tried to emulate Hikigaya's methods by scaring off Orimoto for him, and doing Hikigaya a favor by realizing how mistaken he is. Yuigahama wants to maintain the status quo because the club room is sentimental to her and she doesn't want it to end. Though in the end they assumed wrong and hurt Yukino but that is part and parcel of understanding people which lead to the genuine scene |
Aug 21, 2020 8:53 AM
#118
When 8man started rapping I just ROFLMAO... I could see Eguchi rapping IRL so it wasn't too bad for my mental fortitude. When Yui mentioned that school, what came to mind was that weird president and Orimoto, glad I'm right. And that rap at the end... RIP 8man... |
Aug 21, 2020 8:59 AM
#119
A_G_N said: Nah, you completely misunderstood. I'm all for Yukinoshita and Hachiman. They're the last two pieces in the jigsaw puzzle. But Yuigahama is a character that gets completely misunderstood to the point that mentioning her name gets controversial. Especially with diehard Yukino fans out there. She is a complex character, if not equally as complex as Yukinoshita. People are quick to say that she is manipulative and is a lowkey villain but clearly there is no clear-cut villain in Oregairu well except for Haruno and Yukimom. Even Miura gets humanized.ToraiS said: What a nice way of saying you don't want Hachiman and Yukino to end up together. Just brilliance.NakolHira said: Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine) Hikigaya doesn't have a problem with people lying, as evidenced by his forgiveness for Yukinoshita when she lied about the information that she was there at the start of his lonerdom, the car crash that started it all. He accepts that he lies too but what he dislikes is lying to himself -- which in it's own doesn't fit his definition of the "real" or "genuine" thing he talks about, but his hatred of self-deception is a personal trait of his. For his definition of genuine, he explicitly states that he doesn't want friendship or love, but complete understanding of the people around him, he wants to share a relationship where he can completely understand a person's intentions or goals without any words. Arguably Yui is the closest to his definition of genuine because she is the most perceptive when it comes to Hikigaya; in the genuine scene, she completely understood Hikigaya to the point where he was surprised when he doesn't want to be understood while Yukinoshita ran away because she doesn't know what he meant. There's a lot of instances too where Hikigaya is in the downs, Yui tries to cheer him up while Yukinoshita is too focused on work though she kinda learns how to be considerate of him as the series progresses. Though in reality, Hikigaya does have a relative bias towards Yukinoshita lol. But eh, it's entirely subjective and open to interpretation. That's the beauty of Oregairu after all. |
ToraiSAug 21, 2020 9:02 AM
Aug 21, 2020 9:02 AM
#120
Epic Rap Battles of History has nothing on Hachiman. I found the rap scene very amusing, never thought I'd see the day Hachiman do something as wacky as that. |
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Aug 21, 2020 9:24 AM
#121
civonad said: The thing is, this season can't ahve yukini scenes because evn in the LN, a whole volume was dedicated to Yui, which was ep 5,6,7 and ep 8 will finish vol 13 with bits of Yukino appearing, it was done to sympathise with Yui, in LN it works because we can also hear Hachiman's thoughts about not seeing Yukino, but since anime cant adapt his monologues, all we're left wih is a loooott of Yui interaction, to be fair, vol 13 should've been two episodes at best becauee its mostly filler and yui scenes will be draagged out which will make viewers actually think Yui is better for Hachiman, it happened the whole week after ep 6, we, readers had to change everyone's view to not let that happen, and vol 14 is twice as long and is much more important and has basically no filler, it should've been 6 episodes but, instead we get 4, which is gonna mean, eo 12 will be very rushed, which means, you guessed it, hachiyuki moments will very shortened, their date will basically be shortened. Of course, maybe feel will do something, for now, we can only hope.A_G_N said: Hemantitachi1996 said: I read light novel and I know yui is being selfish but you know what oregairu is close to real life situation.. If you see it by yui's POV that's what real life person will do.. I am seeing lot of people bashing her but y'all don't want to understand her character, try to put yourself in her shoes... My favorite one is yukino and I want her and 8man to be together desperately but at the same time I understand yui's behavior if any one of you any point of your life go through what yui's is going you'll understand her character rather than bashing and calling out her.. as much as I want yukino to be with 8man, I just want people to understand why yui's is acting like that, because that's what real life person will do. We like yukino more that does not mean it qualify us to bash yui.. Put yourself in her shoo.. Yeah I know LN reader gonna bash her, I am one of the LN reader but POV matters, I am not gonna go and start ranting about selfish and manipulative behavior i rather understand it through real life perspective.. Bruh ive waited 5 years for hachiman and yukino to finally be together🙏🙏🙏🙏 Also what did u mean by not this season this seasons fine? Because yukino is getting barely any screentime this season. |
Aug 21, 2020 10:08 AM
#122
A_G_N said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. Hm.. Could be as an option, I think.. But also.. Why Yui kept sacrificing herself in earlier episodes then?.. And now she switches and suddenly all in wanting to get Hachiman?.. I honestly don't understand what Yui thinks at all.. Well, maybe we'll learn in time, because now there are a lot of ambiguous scenes about her, and resolving things and showing it on screen, voicing things, how they truly are would be nice.. But also kinda can understand, if author will just decide to leave everything in the mist in the end.. |
Aug 21, 2020 10:10 AM
#123
Aug 21, 2020 10:11 AM
#124
A_G_N said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. That pretty much sums up White Album 2. |
Aug 21, 2020 10:21 AM
#125
Aug 21, 2020 11:24 AM
#126
Aug 21, 2020 12:18 PM
#127
A_G_N said: civonad said: The thing is, this season can't ahve yukini scenes because evn in the LN, a whole volume was dedicated to Yui, which was ep 5,6,7 and ep 8 will finish vol 13 with bits of Yukino appearing, it was done to sympathise with Yui, in LN it works because we can also hear Hachiman's thoughts about not seeing Yukino, but since anime cant adapt his monologues, all we're left wih is a loooott of Yui interaction, to be fair, vol 13 should've been two episodes at best becauee its mostly filler and yui scenes will be draagged out which will make viewers actually think Yui is better for Hachiman, it happened the whole week after ep 6, we, readers had to change everyone's view to not let that happen, and vol 14 is twice as long and is much more important and has basically no filler, it should've been 6 episodes but, instead we get 4, which is gonna mean, eo 12 will be very rushed, which means, you guessed it, hachiyuki moments will very shortened, their date will basically be shortened. Of course, maybe feel will do something, for now, we can only hope.A_G_N said: Hemantitachi1996 said: The thing is Yui is a completely human character, she's the most human character in the series, the reason LN readers bash her is because her scenes are never cut or she's made to be glorified in the anime, while Yukino's scenes go down the drain as you know in s1 and s2, even Iroha's scenes are almost all adapted. The sheer amount of Yukino cut's might have made readers mad, because best girl doesnt get enough screentime(not this season, this seasons fine). And we see anime watchers saying Yui should end uo with Hachiman bcz she acts nice to him, basically thats why readers bash her, you try to force something to be appealed more, its prob gonna have the oppsite effect of everybody hating her, if you know what I mean.. I personally dont hate yui, I used to like her, but after the cuts and stuff, I'm indiffernet now, I understand her intentions but thats it, but she's no means bad or anything..I read light novel and I know yui is being selfish but you know what oregairu is close to real life situation.. If you see it by yui's POV that's what real life person will do.. I am seeing lot of people bashing her but y'all don't want to understand her character, try to put yourself in her shoes... My favorite one is yukino and I want her and 8man to be together desperately but at the same time I understand yui's behavior if any one of you any point of your life go through what yui's is going you'll understand her character rather than bashing and calling out her.. as much as I want yukino to be with 8man, I just want people to understand why yui's is acting like that, because that's what real life person will do. We like yukino more that does not mean it qualify us to bash yui.. Put yourself in her shoo.. Yeah I know LN reader gonna bash her, I am one of the LN reader but POV matters, I am not gonna go and start ranting about selfish and manipulative behavior i rather understand it through real life perspective.. Bruh ive waited 5 years for hachiman and yukino to finally be together🙏🙏🙏🙏 Also what did u mean by not this season this seasons fine? Because yukino is getting barely any screentime this season. Man im just dying to have my wish of hachiman snd yukino to be endgame and jm not an LN reader so i dont have and want spoilers and i xan only hope |
Aug 21, 2020 12:20 PM
#128
Well, looks who's back, that "Sore Aru" girl from Hikki's past. Not liking that rap, so, I skim it. |
Aug 21, 2020 12:28 PM
#129
thank god hands movement guy is back he is hilarious. Rap battle was sick. Yukino drinking max because she misses Hachiman was super cute. Things are getting pretty awkward not gonna lie (〃 ̄ω ̄〃ゞ |
Aug 21, 2020 12:33 PM
#130
dasprn said: Exception though is, Hachiman's not gonna stand idle while this happens...A_G_N said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. That pretty much sums up White Album 2. |
Aug 21, 2020 12:38 PM
#131
Gendolfas said: Sacrificing? She was helpless, she can't do anything because she knows Hachiman loves Yukino, and she can't do anything, she's just clinging onto Hachiman with desperation now, by using all her tactics, being with him all the season, fake sleeping on his shoulder. But fortunately, Hachiman only loves Yukino. Yui's just sad, she hasn't no way in meaans stopped chasing after Hachiman though but as she says the end ha salready been decided(Hachiman's feelings). But with the new relevation of Yukino giving up on Hachiman for Yui makes Yui think she has a chance now. We'll see what haopens with that in the later epsiodes.A_G_N said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. Hm.. Could be as an option, I think.. But also.. Why Yui kept sacrificing herself in earlier episodes then?.. And now she switches and suddenly all in wanting to get Hachiman?.. I honestly don't understand what Yui thinks at all.. Well, maybe we'll learn in time, because now there are a lot of ambiguous scenes about her, and resolving things and showing it on screen, voicing things, how they truly are would be nice.. But also kinda can understand, if author will just decide to leave everything in the mist in the end.. |
Aug 21, 2020 12:45 PM
#132
A_G_N said: Gendolfas said: Sacrificing? She was helpless, she can't do anything because she knows Hachiman loves Yukino, and she can't do anything, she's just clinging onto Hachiman with desperation now, by using all her tactics, being with him all the season, fake sleeping on his shoulder. But fortunately, Hachiman only loves Yukino. Yui's just sad, she hasn't no way in meaans stopped chasing after Hachiman though but as she says the end ha salready been decided(Hachiman's feelings). But with the new relevation of Yukino giving up on Hachiman for Yui makes Yui think she has a chance now. We'll see what haopens with that in the later epsiodes.A_G_N said: Yui's wish is to be friends with Yukino while also having Hachiman as a BF, so she says that Yukino's wish won't be granted. And Yukino says that she also wishes Yui's wish to be granted because she cares about Yui more. Plus with the Codependency shit, Yukino doesnt believe her realtionship with Hachiman will be good, all this made her give up on Hachiman as a sacrifice. Hm.. Could be as an option, I think.. But also.. Why Yui kept sacrificing herself in earlier episodes then?.. And now she switches and suddenly all in wanting to get Hachiman?.. I honestly don't understand what Yui thinks at all.. Well, maybe we'll learn in time, because now there are a lot of ambiguous scenes about her, and resolving things and showing it on screen, voicing things, how they truly are would be nice.. But also kinda can understand, if author will just decide to leave everything in the mist in the end.. This shit is giving me mad anxiety gonna be sad af if yukino and hachiman dont end up together in a happy ending |
Aug 21, 2020 12:48 PM
#133
A_G_N said: Sacrificing? She was helpless, she can't do anything because she knows Hachiman loves Yukino, and she can't do anything, she's just clinging onto Hachiman with desperation now, by using all her tactics, being with him all the season, fake sleeping on his shoulder. But fortunately, Hachiman only loves Yukino. Yui's just sad, she hasn't no way in meaans stopped chasing after Hachiman though but as she says the end ha salready been decided(Hachiman's feelings). But with the new relevation of Yukino giving up on Hachiman for Yui makes Yui think she has a chance now. We'll see what haopens with that in the later epsiodes. We have different interpretation of Yui, I'd say.. I don't want to be convinced by your interpretation, and don't want to push my own.. I'll just wait and see, how things go, I guess, for now.. |
Aug 21, 2020 1:21 PM
#134
lol, ffs, what the hell was that rap? I suck at handling cringe and that was mega cringe. Watching it with hands in front of my face, and it just kept going lol.... I liked that little scene with Yui and Yukino |
Aug 21, 2020 1:30 PM
#135
After reading all the opposing comments and explanations I can say that nothing seems clear yet... |
Aug 21, 2020 1:50 PM
#136
Gendolfas said: That's fine, I just wanted to clear your doubts since I read the LN, if you feel like there's something hard, just go ask on redďit or something, stuff is hard to interpret this season anyway..A_G_N said: Sacrificing? She was helpless, she can't do anything because she knows Hachiman loves Yukino, and she can't do anything, she's just clinging onto Hachiman with desperation now, by using all her tactics, being with him all the season, fake sleeping on his shoulder. But fortunately, Hachiman only loves Yukino. Yui's just sad, she hasn't no way in meaans stopped chasing after Hachiman though but as she says the end ha salready been decided(Hachiman's feelings). But with the new relevation of Yukino giving up on Hachiman for Yui makes Yui think she has a chance now. We'll see what haopens with that in the later epsiodes. We have different interpretation of Yui, I'd say.. I don't want to be convinced by your interpretation, and don't want to push my own.. I'll just wait and see, how things go, I guess, for now.. |
Aug 21, 2020 1:51 PM
#137
GakutoDeathGlare said: Man, 5hat was supposed to be cringey, that's why it was funny, man everyone totally missed that. Tamanawa was always expressing through Hand signs, so Hachiman just went full blown hand sign rap to communicate with him..lol, ffs, what the hell was that rap? I suck at handling cringe and that was mega cringe. Watching it with hands in front of my face, and it just kept going lol.... I liked that little scene with Yui and Yukino |
Aug 21, 2020 1:55 PM
#138
Tamanawa's rhymes were indeed wicked. Although Hachiman did his best, his lines could not hold a candle to Tamanawa's. At least Hachiman now has more people to make his plan a (non)reality. In addition to more precious Yui moments and insights into Hachiman's view of Iroha. |
Aug 21, 2020 1:57 PM
#139
A_G_N said: Well, yeah, I did find it a little funny, but the cringe far outweighed it IMO. It just came out of nowhere as well lol....GakutoDeathGlare said: Man, 5hat was supposed to be cringey, that's why it was funny, man everyone totally missed that. Tamanawa was always expressing through Hand signs, so Hachiman just went full blown hand sign rap to communicate with him..lol, ffs, what the hell was that rap? I suck at handling cringe and that was mega cringe. Watching it with hands in front of my face, and it just kept going lol.... I liked that little scene with Yui and Yukino |
Aug 21, 2020 2:08 PM
#140
Yukino wishes Yui and Hachiman to end together, because she doesn't understands her own feelings, so she's running away. But Yui knows that Hachiman acutally is in love Yukinoi, so she want Hachiman to decide which one to choose. Yukino is sure that if she leaves Yui and Hachiman will be together, however Hachiman won't accept that and start doing this prom thing |
Aug 21, 2020 2:38 PM
#141
I did not expect a rap battle so that caught me off guard, but damn was it enjoyable xD |
Aug 21, 2020 3:34 PM
#142
Aug 21, 2020 4:29 PM
#143
A_G_N said: tazotaku said: A_G_N said: Jealousy.. she interupted the Hachiyuki moment by appearing in front of them directly. I have a feeling that this anime will have an unhappy ending! tazotaku said: Yeah, don't worry about that, you'll be satisfied.A_G_N said: Jealousy.. she interupted the Hachiyuki moment by appearing in front of them directly. I have a feeling that this anime will have an unhappy ending! Thank You! You comforted me a lot! |
Aug 21, 2020 6:31 PM
#144
A_G_N said: GakutoDeathGlare said: Man, 5hat was supposed to be cringey, that's why it was funny, man everyone totally missed that. Tamanawa was always expressing through Hand signs, so Hachiman just went full blown hand sign rap to communicate with him..lol, ffs, what the hell was that rap? I suck at handling cringe and that was mega cringe. Watching it with hands in front of my face, and it just kept going lol.... I liked that little scene with Yui and Yukino AGN comfort me please without spoiling. I just want yukino and hachiman to end up together |
Aug 21, 2020 6:36 PM
#145
Aug 21, 2020 7:48 PM
#146
so this is what peak 2nd hand embarrassment feels like outside of the unexpected rap battle,the final bit hit some good notes though i feel like this prom is gonna be the whole show with the main cast still struggling to put their feelings together like they showed |
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Aug 21, 2020 8:29 PM
#147
It was a 5/5 episode easily. A lot of laughs and we could see more plans to complete the fake/dummy prom. Thanks for adding the game club members and that rap battle xD I was waiting for that moment. I always enjoy that Yuki-Hachi moments, seems like the conversations flow easily between those two. That hug between Yui and Yukino was really heartwarming (not gonna lie, I dropped a tear). Can't wait for the next episode |
Aug 21, 2020 9:22 PM
#148
Tamanawa & Orimoto, Kaori is Obnoxiously, Notoriously annoying!! for god sakes can they just shut the f**k-up! RAPPING was pricelessly hilarious! 5/5. |
Aug 21, 2020 10:24 PM
#149
civonad said: Everything is fine.. Do not worry my child.A_G_N said: GakutoDeathGlare said: lol, ffs, what the hell was that rap? I suck at handling cringe and that was mega cringe. Watching it with hands in front of my face, and it just kept going lol.... I liked that little scene with Yui and Yukino AGN comfort me please without spoiling. I just want yukino and hachiman to end up together |
Aug 21, 2020 10:27 PM
#150
jv_nicolini said: You're off on Yui's wish, but the episodes will clear it out, hopefully. If you want me to clarify I can, some viewers got it, some didn't. It's not a spoiler anyway. And it'll prob help understnad next ep betterYukino wishes Yui and Hachiman to end together, because she doesn't understands her own feelings, so she's running away. But Yui knows that Hachiman acutally is in love Yukinoi, so she want Hachiman to decide which one to choose. Yukino is sure that if she leaves Yui and Hachiman will be together, however Hachiman won't accept that and start doing this prom thing |
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