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Apr 13, 2019 4:59 PM
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Best episode so far. The hype was so real that I was screaming at my screen the entire time.

That combined attack was fucking beautiful.
Apr 14, 2019 12:18 AM
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No more words. This episode was phenomenal. The attack’s ost too omggg

A lot of people were scared that Star Twinkle would be the same as Mahou because the writers are the same but no. Star twinkle is here to prove you wrong. (i liked mahou but others said so)

Bakenyan is getting even more suspicious, I seriously feel like he has good intentions but I can’t explain why he would take the Aries pen with himself. Again, if he is doing this in order to, for example, save his planet then I understand.

EDIT: Watched the entire episode. The music cured my depression. Asami and Yuuki are a top notch duo.
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Apr 14, 2019 11:38 AM
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Bakenyan is getting even more suspicious, I seriously feel like he has good intentions but I can’t explain why he would take the Aries pen with himself. Again, if he is doing this in order to, for example, save his planet then I understand.
I get the impression that Bakenyan is the most OP of them all. He didn't get buffed in episode 10 unlike the other 3, which is interesting.
Apr 14, 2019 11:55 AM
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I get the impression that Bakenyan is the most OP of them all. He didn't get buffed in episode 10 unlike the other 3, which is interesting.


It’s either that or what I said. I’m still hoping that he would turn out to be a good guy and that he could be related to you-know-who.
Apr 14, 2019 4:26 PM
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really good ep.

the rocket had a carry mode, just like Dragon Ball capsules.
didnt saw that coming and expected other things from the episode.

very unique season, i dont recall clrearly if another season has precures running/hiding away from authority in this serious tone the episode had.

Bakenyan does indeed seem suspicious, he inmediatley refused to be used as a Notrigger.
yet he is smart not leaving the other pen in precure hands, to avoid suspicions from his partners by not fighting at all, asuming he is indeed a good guy.

and by the last guy with a cam/next ep preview/titlename, seems Madoka explaining things to her dad is gonna be delayed.
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Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls
Apr 15, 2019 5:45 AM
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On Madoka's dad, for all the mental stress that he's giving to his daughter.. I have no sympathy when the notrigger crapped on him with that punch.

They seem to have a group attack now. :)
Apr 15, 2019 5:45 AM
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Yuri-Crusader said:
Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls


You can always watch Kirakira precure if almost zero violence is what you want.
Apr 15, 2019 5:58 AM
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Aldnox said:
aria__chan said:
Bakenyan is getting even more suspicious, I seriously feel like he has good intentions but I can’t explain why he would take the Aries pen with himself. Again, if he is doing this in order to, for example, save his planet then I understand.
I get the impression that Bakenyan is the most OP of them all. He didn't get buffed in episode 10 unlike the other 3, which is interesting.


He's calm and seems harmless. Characters like these are often more than what they seem to be.
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Liddo-kun said:
Yuri-Crusader said:
Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls


You can always watch Kirakira precure if almost zero violence is what you want.


Oh ty for the tip =) ,removed it from my list because of this one,but if its less violent i gladly give it a chance

It went from comical and silly to dark and brutal, and there for i don't like the violence in this, it gives me a uneasy felling and i don't want to have that when i watch this type of anime .But you cant like everything in life so it is what it is =)


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Yuri-Crusader said:
Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls


... what is violent about this I ask? This is a show for kids where we just scratch the edge of violence. This is Precure, Precure is not just love and sunshines and that's what makes it unique.
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aria__chan said:
Yuri-Crusader said:
Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls


... what is violent about this I ask? This is a show for kids where we just scratch the edge of violence. This is Precure, Precure is not just love and sunshines and that's what makes it unique.
I think he talking about the previous episode where the villains defeated the precure when he refers to violence
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aria__chan said:
Yuri-Crusader said:
Dropped violent garbage ,its not appropriate for all ages

And is that it? Violence don't you have anything more? It feels like it already repeating it self and going to continue down that road

Well i have better anime to watch, and I'm done with this. 1/10 for torture the cute girls


... what is violent about this I ask? This is a show for kids where we just scratch the edge of violence. This is Precure, Precure is not just love and sunshines and that's what makes it unique.


I repeat my self

In this episode and the previous, a excessive amount of violence have been handed out towards the females .In my ""opinion"" its a unacceptable amount and its not suitable for children

This is my opinion and how i point my anime

And no is nothing unique about Precure, its a hammered out concept. I watch its predecessor on VHS before you were born





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What a great episode, I'm loving Hikaru more and more after each episode, seeing the girls thank her for being the one who made everyone here become friends was so emotional, great new attack as well!

Props to the Ryoji for trying to keep them hidden, what a nice person, he looked so impressed after seeing the light that came from the attack!

Bakenyan refused to combine with the others due to "difference in power levels", he definitely must be way above the other three lmao. The talk at the end was very interesting as well, I have the feel that his idea is to keep the pens are spread out as possible, getting them all together seems that will create something not wanted for him (my bet is in chaos doesn't matter which side they end up on).
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Great episode! It's actually nice to see the Precure team lose. No matter how many times they are beaten, they will always come out on top, so why even make them invincible? It would be so boring if they always win.

It's like imagine if Spider-Man never lost a fight. He will never grow as a character since you know he always wins.

As for the kids show. Precure has always experimented, especially the older Precures. Especially Heartcatch, Fresh Precure etc where there's actually theme of death especially in Heartcatch. And also, Precure's way of winning and getting through a conflict is but fists and fighting. So don't be surprise if there will times where girls will be beaten up.

Anyways, I enjoyed the episode and plan to watch more for sure!
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I actually finally felt like this was a precure series. Seeing Hikaru suffer and bring herself back up just made this episode a lot better than I thought it'd be.
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Yuri-Crusader said:
aria__chan said:


... what is violent about this I ask? This is a show for kids where we just scratch the edge of violence. This is Precure, Precure is not just love and sunshines and that's what makes it unique.


I repeat my self

In this episode and the previous, a excessive amount of violence have been handed out towards the females .In my ""opinion"" its a unacceptable amount and its not suitable for children

This is my opinion and how i point my anime

And no is nothing unique about Precure, its a hammered out concept. I watch its predecessor on VHS before you were born








You shouldn’t act rude to me ya know I also grew up on Sailor Moon and I’m not a todler you want me to be. 😳 Maybe you should actually consider others’ feelings?

This is nowhere near violence that kids should be scared from, there is no blood, no excessive amount of violence that would cause death. This is still suitable for all ages because Toei wouldn’t be so stupid to put stuff that could scare children in there. Precure wants to stand out as a magical girl anime without ecchi or intimate relationships, it wants to focus on fights and magic.
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aria__chan said:
Yuri-Crusader said:


I repeat my self

In this episode and the previous, a excessive amount of violence have been handed out towards the females .In my ""opinion"" its a unacceptable amount and its not suitable for children

This is my opinion and how i point my anime

And no is nothing unique about Precure, its a hammered out concept. I watch its predecessor on VHS before you were born








You shouldn’t act rude to me ya know I also grew up on Sailor Moon and I’m not a todler you want me to be. 😳 Maybe you should actually consider others’ feelings?

This is nowhere near violence that kids should be scared from, there is no blood, no excessive amount of violence that would cause death. This is still suitable for all ages because Toei wouldn’t be so stupid to put stuff that could scare children in there. Precure wants to stand out as a magical girl anime without ecchi or intimate relationships, it wants to focus on fights and magic.


You are the rude one, you cant accepted that i don't like your favorite anime and keep addressing me and claiming that my observation is wrong

Consider other peoples feelings? Because i don't share you opinion in a forum? How can that be "not consider other peoples feelings"?

People sometime disagree in forums its noting personal, its not aim at you .I criticize the anime, no one should take that as a insult against its person

You cant decide what i consider to be suitable for children ,this is """my personal opinion"""" its no right or wrong here

And in my opinion that violence have been extremely excessive cruel and dark.It have gone so far it even start to attack civilians that cant fight back or defend them self, her father was beaten so badly that he lost conscious ,that is ""way to much"" and even if her father may have deserved it , its not suitable with this age ratings

Cartoon violence with a big comical tone is more what i consider to be suitable for low age groups. There a lot of magical girl shows ecchi no ecchi and everything in between,i do agree with you its nice to see no ecchi, but its not unique

Please accept that we don't share opinions here , i respect your opinion and that it different from mine. But i don,t agree that is life sometimes, we are not going gain anything by continue arguing. So for the best lets agree that we disagree and leave it as that




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Yuri-Crusader said:
aria__chan said:



You shouldn’t act rude to me ya know I also grew up on Sailor Moon and I’m not a todler you want me to be. 😳 Maybe you should actually consider others’ feelings?

This is nowhere near violence that kids should be scared from, there is no blood, no excessive amount of violence that would cause death. This is still suitable for all ages because Toei wouldn’t be so stupid to put stuff that could scare children in there. Precure wants to stand out as a magical girl anime without ecchi or intimate relationships, it wants to focus on fights and magic.


You are the rude one, you cant accepted that i don't like your favorite anime and keep addressing me and claiming that my observation is wrong

Consider other peoples feelings? Because i don't share you opinion in a forum? How can that be "not consider other peoples feelings"?

People sometime disagree in forums its noting personal, its not aim at you .I criticize the anime, no one should take that as a insult against its person

You cant decide what i consider to be suitable for children ,this is a """my personal opinion"""" its no right or wrong here

And in my opinion that violence have been extremely excessive cruel and dark.It have gone so far it even start to attack civilians that cant fight back or defend them self, her father was beaten so badly that he lost conscious ,that is ""way to much"" and even if her father may have deserved it , its not suitable with this age ratings

Cartoon violence with a big comical tone is more what i consider to be suitable for low age groups. There a lot of magical girl shows ecchi no ecchi and everything in between,i do agree with you its nice to see no ecchi, but its not unique

Please accept that we don't share opinions here , i respect your opinion and that it different from mine. But i don,t agree that is life sometimes, we are not going gain anything by continue arguing. So for the best lets agree that we disagree and leave it as that




i was thinking you were talking about only about how the villains beat up the girls badly in the previous episode
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You are the rude one, you cant accepted that i don't like your favorite anime and keep addressing me and claiming that my observation is wrong

Consider other peoples feelings? Because i don't share you opinion in a forum? How can that be "not consider other peoples feelings"?

People sometime disagree in forums its noting personal, its not aim at you .I criticize the anime, no one should take that as a insult against its person

You cant decide what i consider to be suitable for children ,this is a """my personal opinion"""" its no right or wrong here

And in my opinion that violence have been extremely excessive cruel and dark.It have gone so far it even start to attack civilians that cant fight back or defend them self, her father was beaten so badly that he lost conscious ,that is ""way to much"" and even if her father may have deserved it , its not suitable with this age ratings

Cartoon violence with a big comical tone is more what i consider to be suitable for low age groups. There a lot of magical girl shows ecchi no ecchi and everything in between,i do agree with you its nice to see no ecchi, but its not unique

Please accept that we don't share opinions here , i respect your opinion and that it different from mine. But i don,t agree that is life sometimes, we are not going gain anything by continue arguing. So for the best lets agree that we disagree and leave it as that




i was thinking you were talking about only about how the villains beat up the girls badly in the previous episode


Its the two episode combined that making me dropped this anime.

If something happens that i don't like or seen as unacceptable in a anime , i demand the anime correct it self to my liking ,if it fails do so like this, it going to be consequences

And after the attack on her father it passed a line and that it cant go back from, its her ""father"" and he was ""beaten"" to the ground so ""brutally"" that he ""fainted"" for all age that is by my opinion not acceptable

That is to much i was extremely shocked and disgusted by then scene ,and after the previous episode i can now drop the anime accordingly to my rules

This is just my opinion no one needs to agree or judge their anime my way, but i think the violence was to much, and im NOT going to back down from that claim
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elior1 said:
Yuri-Crusader said:


You are the rude one, you cant accepted that i don't like your favorite anime and keep addressing me and claiming that my observation is wrong

Consider other peoples feelings? Because i don't share you opinion in a forum? How can that be "not consider other peoples feelings"?

People sometime disagree in forums its noting personal, its not aim at you .I criticize the anime, no one should take that as a insult against its person

You cant decide what i consider to be suitable for children ,this is a """my personal opinion"""" its no right or wrong here

And in my opinion that violence have been extremely excessive cruel and dark.It have gone so far it even start to attack civilians that cant fight back or defend them self, her father was beaten so badly that he lost conscious ,that is ""way to much"" and even if her father may have deserved it , its not suitable with this age ratings

Cartoon violence with a big comical tone is more what i consider to be suitable for low age groups. There a lot of magical girl shows ecchi no ecchi and everything in between,i do agree with you its nice to see no ecchi, but its not unique

Please accept that we don't share opinions here , i respect your opinion and that it different from mine. But i don,t agree that is life sometimes, we are not going gain anything by continue arguing. So for the best lets agree that we disagree and leave it as that




i was thinking you were talking about only about how the villains beat up the girls badly in the previous episode


The fact that Kappard simply throws Hikaru away on the previous episode instead of punch or kick her is a sign that the amount of violence is under control. The very first precure, Futari wa Precure is more violent than this and the battles there are almost like Dragonball Z where the girls are actually physically kicked HARD by the villain.

Maybe you grew up watching shows censored by 4 kids and Saban so you can't handle the violence?

I have been watching precure for years. And I think the series that would suit your taste of non-violence is Kirakira, and maybe Splash Star as well.
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Really nice episode.

I can see imagination is more important that only a word.

Now I can see villians more interesting. I mean. They remind me about Sailor senshis and Sailor animamates for Sailor Moon. They planets were destroyed and the follow Galaxia because a promise. Maybe Precure villians will be similar. One of them mention someone stole his planet.

Talking about Hikaru was an interesting character in this episode. Feeling guilty about the star pen, trying to make a good thing after the mistake she did and finally the team work, motivation, a little of imagination and the new attack. Like it, basically.
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Yuri-Crusader said:
elior1 said:
i was thinking you were talking about only about how the villains beat up the girls badly in the previous episode


Its the two episode combined that making me dropped this anime.

If something happens that i don't like or seen as unacceptable in a anime , i demand the anime correct it self to my liking ,if it fails do so like this, it going to be consequences

And after the attack on her father it passed a line and that it cant go back from, its her ""father"" and he was ""beaten"" to the ground so ""brutally"" that he ""fainted"" for all age that is by my opinion not acceptable

That is to much i was extremely shocked and disgusted by then scene ,and after the previous episode i can now drop the anime accordingly to my rules

This is just my opinion no one needs to agree or judge their anime my way, but i think the violence was to much, and im NOT going to back down from that claim
i was not trying to change your opinion i just wanted to know
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i was thinking you were talking about only about how the villains beat up the girls badly in the previous episode


The fact that Kappard simply throws Hikaru away on the previous episode instead of punch or kick her is a sign that the amount of violence is under control. The very first precure, Futari wa Precure is more violent than this and the battles there are almost like Dragonball Z where the girls are actually physically kicked HARD by the villain.

Maybe you grew up watching shows censored by 4 kids and Saban so you can't handle the violence?

I have been watching precure for years. And I think the series that would suit your taste of non-violence is Kirakira, and maybe Splash Star as well.
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i watched all of the precures seasons. splash star final battle was the only one that was dragon ball z type in my opinion
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elior1 said:
Liddo-kun said:


The fact that Kappard simply throws Hikaru away on the previous episode instead of punch or kick her is a sign that the amount of violence is under control. The very first precure, Futari wa Precure is more violent than this and the battles there are almost like Dragonball Z where the girls are actually physically kicked HARD by the villain.

Maybe you grew up watching shows censored by 4 kids and Saban so you can't handle the violence?

I have been watching precure for years. And I think the series that would suit your taste of non-violence is Kirakira, and maybe Splash Star as well.
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i watched all of the precures seasons. splash star final battle was the only one that was dragon ball z type in my opinion


I never said Splash Star is dragonball z, I said Futari Wa is the one similar to Dragonball Z.

In fact, I recommended Splash Star to those who don't want too much violence. :)
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i watched all of the precures seasons. splash star final battle was the only one that was dragon ball z type in my opinion


I never said Splash Star is dragonball z, I said Futari Wa is the one similar to Dragonball Z.

In fact, I recommended Splash Star to those who don't want too much violence. :)
actully in my opinion only the final battle of splash star with guyan had violence too much
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Civil debate is perfectly okay but please don't result to personal attacks and insults. C'mon.
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And the amount of violence that are at a masochist level are not suitable for all ages in my meaning .Even i that have consumed a large portions of media all the way back to the 80s, was shocked and disgusted by this show
I have no idea what the hell you were watching in the 80s if you think this is "masochist level" of violence.
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And the amount of violence that are at a masochist level are not suitable for all ages in my meaning .Even i that have consumed a large portions of media all the way back to the 80s, was shocked and disgusted by this show
I have no idea what the hell you were watching in the 80s if you think this is "masochist level" of violence.


When did i claim that that media i consumed in my childhood was appropriate? That was a part of the problem back then , and to see a cartoon in 2019 have around the same amount of violence as the old one is not ok and that shocked me

I had nightmares as a child because of shit like that, and I'm not going to stop criticize when i think somethings is wrong or not suitable for children. Even if that make the precure fanboys very upset

And one can wonder what the fuck is the problem here, i think its to much!! Nothing is going to change ""my opinion"" don't care about the crying .You can all have ""your opinion"" and love this show, but i DON'T and that is something you have to accept, if you don't like it ""don't read my posts""

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I don't know why violence is even being discussed on this. It was pretty standard Mahou Shoujo stuff.

I've seen worse on Precure series itself, hahaha.

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This thread... OK it's time to go back to discussing the episode.
I wonder what will happen with Madoka's dad :thinking: Tho we didn't see him in the preview iirc.
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This thread... OK it's time to go back to discussing the episode.
I wonder what will happen with Madoka's dad :thinking: Tho we didn't see him in the preview iirc.


Maybe he end up in the hospital? I think that guy is a creep and the less I see him in this show, the better the show becomes.
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Thread cleaned. Again.

Please keep personal arguments out of the forums. They don't add anything to the dicsussion.

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Very good episode, Madoka's dad will know everything about the precure I guess, I hope he will be comprehensive and will not scold her.
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wow that ep was insane too, another good fight, the villains have alos something to fight for
the southern cross attack was great
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Bakenyan is the most interesting villain at the moment. There's something mysterious about that guy.

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So far Star Twinkle continues to top itself each episode and I'm so on board with that. I liked the use of lighting throughout this episode conveying Hikaru's distressed state over last episode's near defeat.

Apparently this episode was directed by Iwai Takao, who's been directing episodes for the precure franchise since the very beginning with Futari Wa Episode 3.
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Poor Hikaru. She blamed herself of what happened. But she finally got her confidence back after the girls praised her and said she's the reason why they are together.

The Cures obtained the Twinkle Stick and performed their first group attack, the Southern Cross Shot for the first time.

Hikaru also got her Taurus Star Color Pen back. However, Bakenyan took the other pen. He's behaving very suspiciously all the time.

Ryo also learned the truth about Lala, Fuwa, and Puruns. Fortunately, that information didn't seem to shock him that much.

However, Madoka's father is now even more suspecious about the whole situation.

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