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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Dang, Goku's instinct power is insane even against Kefla after she powered up all the way. I have to admit, she actually looks pretty cool now with spiked blonde hair in her fusion form. Jiren also finished meditating. About time! Kefla's fight against Goku lived up to what I had expected overall. THAT MUSIC. |
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| Oh boy that Kamehameha part. Kefla got fucking bodied. And thank god for that. |
| Nice hype episode. Loved it |
| wow thats like the best dodge plus kamehameha follow up ever lol Goku is freaking bad ass on ultra instinct state |
| How pleasant it was to see those two horrible characters being eliminated. Bye bye Kefla, you will not be missed at all. |
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| they are foreshadowing that Vegeta will achieve ultra instinct state too and i hope that really happens |
| Rewatching this episode, directing is so great. I can even feel some Osamu Dezaki (like that point blank kamehameha triple shot) in here... and the fact that allr ecent episodes end in picturesque fashion. I love that DBS directors are borrowing from the legend... to be the best you must learn from the best... |
| Awesome episode! Loved that Kamehameha. So glad Kefla is FINALLY out! |
| Kefla literally represented everything wrong with db so far (just power up after power up) and to see Goku deal with her with such elegance was amazing. Plus they were FUCKING annoying so thank god they're out. The whole part leading to her getting eliminated was cool af. The way Goku was dodging everything reminded me of good ol' Frogger lmao |
| Holy shit!! The Kamehameha part was soooo cool. The way goku just slid over that energy wave from Kefla was epic asf!! The animation and art were amazingly clean and the directing was superb. Was grinning like an idiot. That was hype |
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| Damn, the Kamehameha part was a delight to the eyes! xD Such elegance to eliminate Kefla... No words! Now U6 is on the verge of being erased :O And it seems that U2 will make the stupidest decision of their lives in the next ep... Too bad :P |
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| Not as well done as Jiren vs Goku, but not disappointingly bad as some other fights either. Loved the point blank Kamehameha! 👌👌 |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| kale and caulifla got eliminated ? and nothing of value was lost. next episode looks annoying asf btw. |
| Have a mixed feeling about this episode. First of all, I love the fighting scenes, close up Kamahameha, and seeing Kefla having no chance against UI Goku (not counting stamina issue). But still Kefla got even more powerups. Piccolo even implied her power is stronger than UI Goku when he fought Jiren. Also, they are saying Goku's attacks are not strong because he has to think before attacks? The ability to move (attack) without thinking would only make the user lands more hits, not increase in raw power. |
UImoetardNov 18, 2017 7:15 PM
| Absolutely love that the final kamehameha wasn't meant to beam struggle Kefla, and instead took her out by avoiding and evading until he had the opening he needed to take her out without needing to overpower her. Completely overwhelmed her in both strategy and technique. I like Kefla, but seeing her go out in that way is so satisfying. |
The10tailedwolf said: I'm pretty certain Piccolo was implying that Goku's current power while fighting Kefla, is even stronger than when he was fighting Jiren in UI. (I.e. Goku is growing accustom to UI, and is likely to become even stronger... and not that her power surrpasses Goku's -__-) Piccolo was obviously talking about the energy blast that Kefla was charging. "This power... it might even surpass Son's earlier level!" |
isekai said: they are foreshadowing that Vegeta will achieve ultra instinct state too and i hope that really happens I wish nothing but the best for Vegeta! He tried so hard! T-T |
| goku riding on the ki wave then hitting the kamehameha was satistying af it was as good as the brolly kamehameha |
  "When the time is yours, the future is waiting, The person you become, and the people you're creating." |
| That episode was really good. Kefla vs UI Goku actually exceeded my expectations. That Kamehameha was really nice to watch. To think all of that happen in under 4 minutes. So it's safe to say that Universe 6 is getting eliminated sometime soon. Why is Ribrainne still there? |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| That was actually pretty awesome. With the context of the story aside, the actual fight and the animation was really well done. What the hell Toei? XD The final sequence with the Kamehameha was amazing. |
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Holy shit... Those vortex blades look amazingggggggg Vegeta ultra instinct soon? |
| I don't think Vegeta will be able to use UI before the tournament ends, but let's see... I'm still hoping for Vegito to could Ultra Instinct lol, that would definitely be the best way to beat Jiren. |
| I think I'm the only one who will miss Caulifla. I mean, I like the character and it's not her fault that the power levels in this series are shit and not to mention the great idea of how U6's saiyans become SSJ xD |
SkyLETVNov 18, 2017 9:53 PM
| Episode was so fucking hype,great fight and Kefla looked really hot, tomboyish and athletic body, exactly my type :P Moment when Goku used his Kamehameha,tho, one of the most epic moments in this show. Can't wait to see Goku and Vegeta mastering UI completely. U6 has only those 2 Namekians...rip. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| So, is anyone else not liking the pre-opening episode "preview"? Feels like it spoils too much of the episode (or maybe more like the episode's hype?). |
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| Every time Ultra Instinct Goku is here, the episode sure going to be bloody amazing and it was. Ultra instict totally is my favourite transformation now and Goku splendidly beat Kefla. The Kamehameha last sequence was just beyond anything i ever saw in all DB history. |
| And she's out, that was one sick Kamehameha to the face, brutal. hawk222 said: So, is anyone else not liking the pre-opening episode "preview"? Feels like it spoils too much of the episode (or maybe more like the episode's hype?). Didn't they begin doing those short pre-episode previews around the Goku vs Jiren fight? I do agree it kinda spoils the episodes. Glad the saiyan battles are over now the show can focus on other character |
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| I like they way Ultra Instinct Goku acts, it reminds me of the first time he attained Super Saiyan against Frieza - cold, ruthless and arrogant. He knew his opponent stands no chance against his current state. I also somewhat appreciate the fact that by giving him such a personality it would ease the strain on his seiyuu, especially after that dreadful news of Bulma's seiyuu just passing away recently. That aside, that point blank Kamehameha is a delight to see, a great way to eliminate one of the strongest fighters (and cheaters) in the tournament. I was wondering the whole time when are their potara going to expire, turned out it didn't have to. Geez, when Goku and co. use potara, they always split up prematurely, but the same thing didn't happen to Kefla. =.= |
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| The way Goku trashed kefla and the slide kamehame he put in her face was so fucking satisfying lol RIP the sayians women's you won't be missed, also U6 have only 2 fighters on the stage now RIP We got rid of U6 Trash in this episode and next week we have to deal with U2 Trash Sigh ....... Hopefully #18 put that bitch Rbrainne in her place |
Lord_Odous said: I like they way Ultra Instinct Goku acts, it reminds me of the first time he attained Super Saiyan against Frieza - cold, ruthless and arrogant. He knew his opponent stands no chance against his current state. I also somewhat appreciate the fact that by giving him such a personality it would ease the strain on his seiyuu, especially after that dreadful news of Bulma's seiyuu just passing away recently. That aside, that point blank Kamehameha is a delight to see, a great way to eliminate one of the strongest fighters (and cheaters) in the tournament. I was wondering the whole time when are their potara going to expire, turned out it didn't have to. Geez, when Goku and co. use potara, they always split up prematurely, but the same thing didn't happen to Kefla. =.= Well logically she should be weaker than Vegito and going by the fact she didn't defuse even after using every bit of HER power also imply she's weaker than Vegito who the potara couldn't handel his power even though he was no where near full power You will lose brain cells if you try to apply logic to DBS so just accept it and go with it |
Devil_Slayer said: Lord_Odous said: I like they way Ultra Instinct Goku acts, it reminds me of the first time he attained Super Saiyan against Frieza - cold, ruthless and arrogant. He knew his opponent stands no chance against his current state. I also somewhat appreciate the fact that by giving him such a personality it would ease the strain on his seiyuu, especially after that dreadful news of Bulma's seiyuu just passing away recently. That aside, that point blank Kamehameha is a delight to see, a great way to eliminate one of the strongest fighters (and cheaters) in the tournament. I was wondering the whole time when are their potara going to expire, turned out it didn't have to. Geez, when Goku and co. use potara, they always split up prematurely, but the same thing didn't happen to Kefla. =.= Well logically she should be weaker than Vegito and going by the fact she didn't defuse even after using every bit of HER power also imply she's weaker than Vegito who the potara couldn't handel his power even though he was no where near full power You will lose brain cells if you try to apply logic to DBS so just accept it and go with it Haha I agree using brain cells to watch DBS is not the right way to enjoy it, after all, the only purpose of watching it is just relax and see how powerful everyone can get. Saying Kefla is inferior to Vegito, however, is debatable. While it's true that we can argue that SSB Vegito defused when they faced Zamasu was due to the overwhelming SSB power. But Kefla would've pretty much be closer to that overwhelming power state when she unleashed those wild lasers around. Well, at current point, the writers can write anything they want lol. |
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Lord_Odous said: Devil_Slayer said: Well logically she should be weaker than Vegito and going by the fact she didn't defuse even after using every bit of HER power also imply she's weaker than Vegito who the potara couldn't handel his power even though he was no where near full power You will lose brain cells if you try to apply logic to DBS so just accept it and go with it Haha I agree using brain cells to watch DBS is not the right way to enjoy it, after all, the only purpose of watching it is just relax and see how powerful everyone can get. Saying Kefla is inferior to Vegito, however, is debatable. While it's true that we can argue that SSB Vegito defused when they faced Zamasu was due to the overwhelming SSB power. But Kefla would've pretty much be closer to that overwhelming power state when she unleashed those wild lasers around. Well, at current point, the writers can write anything they want lol. See what i said ? i said Logically Vegito should be stronger than her simply due to the fact she was throwing hands with SSB Goku, going by how potara work even Base Vgeito is stronger than SSB Goku so he stomp Kefla and i am not counting his power up from SSJ to SSB She turned into SSJ and according to official data book SSJ2 is ssj*2 < which is BS yet again Still the writers may intended for her to be stronger than vegito because they can write whatever they want at this point i am not denying the possibility really |
Devil_Slayer said: Lord_Odous said: Haha I agree using brain cells to watch DBS is not the right way to enjoy it, after all, the only purpose of watching it is just relax and see how powerful everyone can get. Saying Kefla is inferior to Vegito, however, is debatable. While it's true that we can argue that SSB Vegito defused when they faced Zamasu was due to the overwhelming SSB power. But Kefla would've pretty much be closer to that overwhelming power state when she unleashed those wild lasers around. Well, at current point, the writers can write anything they want lol. See what i said ? i said Logically Vegito should be stronger than her simply due to the fact she was throwing hands with SSB Goku, going by how potara work even Base Vgeito is stronger than SSB Goku so he stomp Kefla and i am not counting his power up from SSJ to SSB She turned into SSJ and according to official data book SSJ2 is ssj*2 < which is BS yet again Still the writers may intended for her to be stronger than vegito because they can write whatever they want at this point i am not denying the possibility really Here's the thing. Power levels are totally irrelevant at this point. If it's still relevant, fighting in base form or SSJ1/SSJ2 is literally suicide because of how weak they are, compared to SSJGod and SSB. Then Kefla did the Berserk-but-somehow-tamed mode from Kale and Caulifla's SSJ2, so it's difficult to pinpoint in what state exactly Kefla is. Whatever the case is, trying to measure power levels is something impossible to do at DBS's current state. |
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nelliecatalina said: How pleasant it was to see those two horrible characters being eliminated. Bye bye Kefla, you will not be missed at all. Yep i m happy now these 2 are gone , these 2 was more annoying then u2 |
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Lord_Odous said: Devil_Slayer said: See what i said ? i said Logically Vegito should be stronger than her simply due to the fact she was throwing hands with SSB Goku, going by how potara work even Base Vgeito is stronger than SSB Goku so he stomp Kefla and i am not counting his power up from SSJ to SSB She turned into SSJ and according to official data book SSJ2 is ssj*2 < which is BS yet again Still the writers may intended for her to be stronger than vegito because they can write whatever they want at this point i am not denying the possibility really Here's the thing. Power levels are totally irrelevant at this point. If it's still relevant, fighting in base form or SSJ1/SSJ2 is literally suicide because of how weak they are, compared to SSJGod and SSB. Then Kefla did the Berserk-but-somehow-tamed mode from Kale and Caulifla's SSJ2, so it's difficult to pinpoint in what state exactly Kefla is. Whatever the case is, trying to measure power levels is something impossible to do at DBS's current state. Of course they are not relevant anymore, just look Kale vs SSB Goku, They made Kale stomp Goku simply to make it look like the time Broly was trashing Goku in the movie as fan service for his fans, heck Kale whole character is Broly fan service After she control it and power up even more SSG Goku mange to kick her around It just like you said DBS is all about laying back and see everyone beating the shit out of each other in cool way ~ |
SkyLETV said: I think I'm the only one who will miss Caulifla. I mean, I like the character and it's not her fault that the power levels in this series are shit and not to mention the great idea of how U6's saiyans become SSJ xD No you're not alone.. hell I'd pretty much take U6 over U7 at this point. But the Goku FBs would throw a fit.. Just ask Gohan. (and Vegeta) But in the end, it doesn't really matter who gets deleted next or at all.. Because we know that this will all be undone in the end. |
Rukodaime said: If the only thing you need to break potara fusion is breaking the potara, Goku should just have broken the potara from the start :) Overwall, nice fight. Was not expecting this dodge with the Kamehameha. Actually, I was expecting the transposition. But, well, it was better this way ! Next week... Universe 2... Please get rid of them already... Pretty sure they just added that effect to ring them out, maybe he hit so hard they defused ? lel |
| holy shit that was superhype, that kamehameha charging while running and dodging is very cool i wish kefla reach ssj3 like gotenks before getting defeated tho, too bad |
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| I'm pretty sure this episode is at least in the top 5 episodes of DBS. I really loved the choreography of the fight. I was expecting Goku to use his feet to shoot an energy blast to evade Kefla's attack, but that sliding kamehameha was even better! I'm so glad one of the most annoying characters is out. Now just eliminate Ribrianne, and it's all good. Also, it's so cool that we actually get an explanation during the fight from Whis. So Ultra Instinct has two parts: Defensive, and offensive. Defensive is much easier to attain. This is logical, since it's much easier to dodge just using instinct. You just evade, that's it. While if you want to hit someone, you'd probably try to hit vital organs, or be effective in some other way, which results in thinking. We see blue "heat", which could be defensive, and the red "heat" we saw like 2 months ago on the picture where Goku's shirt is torn was probably his attack UI. Also there was a theory that Goku is possessed by something/someone using his form. Apparently this theory is false, since this time he even talked in his form. 26 fighters and 17 mins left. Also, RIP Bulma's actress :( |
SkyLETV said: I think I'm the only one who will miss Caulifla. I mean, I like the character and it's not her fault that the power levels in this series are shit and not to mention the great idea of how U6's saiyans become SSJ xD You are not alone. I liked the two girls ... |
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| Overall to be honest Kefla was far more enjoyable than Mr.0 personality jiren who have nothing going on for him beside being "stronk" < manga at least fix this if they introduce them as being able to go SSJ2 and SSJ3 from the very beginning i would like them far more |
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