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Feb 26, 2017 9:01 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Kouka!!! in anime form is so hot! as expected!
Also her seiyuu... its kugimiya rie as well wasnt it?
All in all awesome episode!
Feb 26, 2017 9:01 AM
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Yeah, it's time for the episode with the Umibouzu/Kouka backstory. Episode starts off with Umibouzu taking to Mutsu in the past. It's easy to forget that Mustu's a Yato... at least for me. Meanwhile we have Umibouzu vs. Utsuro in present time. Well, we don't necessarily get to see much of the fight since this is more of a flashback-heavy episode. I like how the flashback dialogues merges in with the fight. And Umibouzu being sarcastic as ever is great. Hah, I totally forgot about that Umibouzu erection gag! But damn, Umibouzu just punched off Utsuro's arm, but it's regenerating as usual.

This is the first time we get to properly see and hear Kagura and Kamui's mom. Kinda have mixed feelings about Kugimiya Rie being Kouka's seiyuu since I hear too much Kagura when she talks, but whatever, I guess that's the point. Lol at Umibouzu talking about his orochi. Though I'm not sure if Umibouzu can be considered the strongest thing in the universe, he sure is the most desperate in picking up girls. But the two’s relationship is really nice, and funny too. With Kouka being away from her planet’s Altana source, her health is starting to deteriorate.

2 and a half chapters adapted (Chapters 578, 579 and half of 580), much, much less than it's average 4 chapters per episode pacing. I guess that's expected since the two chapters were quite dialogue heavy. Though I prefer it when Gintama's more faster paced since it keeps my attention more and has me on the edge of my seat, since this is a flashback episode, I guess it's good that Gintama used this as a breather episode.



5/5
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Feb 26, 2017 10:38 AM
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@GoldenDevilGamer how was the animation in this episode?
Feb 26, 2017 10:56 AM
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Kagura-chan said:
@GoldenDevilGamer how was the animation in this episode?
During the Utsuro vs. Umibouzu fight, it looked great for most of the time. I think one or two frames of Utsuro looked a bit off, but there not that noticeable. During the backstory, the art was really pretty, especially during the key moments.
Feb 26, 2017 11:49 AM
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That young young Mutsu tho.

I kinda feel for the budged as they had to re used old actors for both the mom and younger Umibozu. Would have been nicer if they were some other VA's.

Other then that pretty good flashback episode for more info on this family.
Feb 26, 2017 11:59 AM
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That young young Mutsu tho.

I kinda feel for the budged as they had to re used old actors for both the mom and younger Umibozu. Would have been nicer if they were some other VA's.

Other then that pretty good flashback episode for more info on this family.


I don't think it's because of the budget, much...
Feb 26, 2017 12:07 PM
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Ramkec said:
I kinda feel for the budged as they had to re used old actors for both the mom and younger Umibozu. Would have been nicer if they were some other VA's.


There's a reason for why Kouka sounds similar to Kagura, it's not because of budget issues.

Anyway, I loved the flashback bit with Umibozu and Kouka, they are easily one of my favorite couples in anime <3

Everything from now till the end are my favorite part of the entire series so I hope anime-onlys enjoy the ride.
Feb 26, 2017 12:24 PM
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That was a really nice episode.

Finally the story behind Kagura's family and I loved it. Unmibozu is awesome, funny how he crunches his balls every time. XD
Loved the relationship between Umibozu and Kouka who is quite a fine looking woman. :3 Was really nice to see how they grew closer and eventually got married. I like the fact that they cast Rie Kugimiya as Kouka, helps relate to Kagura's speech pattern really well.

So I guess Kouka literally meant that staying away from her planet would cause health issues. Though I don't get why she alone suffers from this, Is it because of their clan's adaptation to the planet or whatever? I don't exactly get how the Kouka's life became interlinked with the Altana to the point she is unable to survive without it. I guess it'll be explained next episode.

The Utsuro vs Umibozu scenes were also really awesome, can't wait to see that fight pickup as well. Young Mutsu was great too. :P
Feb 26, 2017 12:37 PM
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Ahh the ghibli-esque musical box ost is killing me inside.

Feb 26, 2017 1:07 PM

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How lovely was Umibouzu's flashback :3 However, Kouka was really serious when she had said that she couldn't leave the ruined planet... And Kamui's actual behaviour is related to that. Next episode will clarify pretty much everything with Kagura's family situation.
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Feb 26, 2017 1:38 PM
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I was surprised to see young Mutsu again! I really liked how smoothly the episode flowed between Umibouzu telling Mutsu the story, the actual flashbacks, and the fight with Utsuro.

I was dying when Umibouzu started crushing his balls, that's some real dedication. XD

Also, the love story between Umibouzu and Kouka was so sweet!
Feb 26, 2017 1:40 PM

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Great episode as usual.Kouka is indeed hot.I was kinda surprised when I heard Kagura's VA but I assume there's a reason behind that.Can't wait for next episode more background for Kamui.

Boner jokes were hilarious and Kouka throwing random Kitchen utensils to her husband and son aswell.That..sounded kinda inconvenient.
Feb 26, 2017 1:45 PM
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After multiple amazing action packed episode, this was such a calm, but still amazing episode. Just in 15 minutes, Sorachi wrote a better love story than most other animes whose main focus in romance, and he did that while making multiple dick jokes too. Sorachi, you are a legend.

So, before everything else, I have to say that the child Mutsu is absolutely adorable. I always loved Mutsu, but the way she talks and her expressions as a child made me love her even more. She is both amazingly cute and cool at the same time.

Kouka. We only get to know her in this episode, yet she is already a great character, a better female character than almost any other female character I've seen in other animes. She is interesting, beautiful and badass. Also, as far as I understood, she was stronger than Umibozu and she had a similar ability to Utsuro, which makes her the second strongest character in the series. That is amazing. I got sad when I saw that she was dying at the end, even though I knew clearly that she would die at the end. Her relationship with the baldy was brilliant. Also, the Orochi = Dick jokes were amazing.

Kamui blames Umibozu for his mothers death huh? Well, I guess he is kind of right. She wouldn't have died if he hadn't taken her from her planet. I mean, it is obviously not Umibozu's fault, it was Kouka's own choice after all, but I can still see where Kamui is coming from. He is a momma's boy after all.

Utsuro was terrifying as ever. Everytime he moves or says something, I feel like he is going to murder someone or something (which he does attempt most of the time). Such a great villain. But I don't want him to lose against Umibozu (which I don't think will happen anyway), I want his downfall to be against Gintoki. Yet at the same time, I don't want Umibozu to die here.

So the flashback continues next week? Interesting. I am guessing we will see how and why Kamui and Umibozu fought now. Can't wait.

Even though it was sad that the episode had zero Gintoki, it was still a brilliant episode.
Feb 26, 2017 1:45 PM

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Great backstory and it's not the end either.

Wishing for Kamui & Kagura to also join the fight. Umibozu cannot die.
Feb 26, 2017 2:02 PM

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Gintama continues to show me why I love it so much!

Such a beautiful episode. The romance was heartwarming and getting to see Kamui happy with his father, mother, and his new born sister was sweet :) Only to end the episode with tragedy :'(

The OST fit perfectly for a desolate planet romance :)
Feb 26, 2017 2:09 PM

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MrMik1995 said:
Germs_N_Spices said:


I don't think it's because of the budget, much...


Maybe budget is the reason,you know considering how most of the budget is spent on Voice Actors but it works cause



I say this cause its the climax of the season, the animation cannot be complained, there're a bunch of new OSTs, not to mention Gintama already has a gigantic cast of seiyuu for its numerous characters. It's hard to imagine they'll skimp in this particular time and place.
Feb 26, 2017 2:11 PM

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Great episode.
Awesome to finally see Kouka. She is absolutely stunning & beautiful.
LOL Umibouzu hitting on her. Wonderful flashback.

Umibouzu vs Utsuro is getting crazy.
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Feb 26, 2017 2:27 PM

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I didn't expect Kugimiya to play Kagura's mother as well, but it worked really good.

And really? People complain that Umibozu didn't have another voice actor? Why the hell would they even change Hayami? It's not that Umibozu is a child here. He makes his voice younger and it works. I don't see why people even considered the change here.
Feb 26, 2017 2:41 PM

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...How did she die if she's eternal just like him?
Feb 26, 2017 2:44 PM

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...How did she die if she's eternal just like him?


Don't ask for spoilers if you don't actually want to be spoiled.
Feb 26, 2017 2:47 PM

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From what I understood she couldn't live on another planet for a long time.
I loved the part when he was fighting the orochi from his pants,lol.
He gets a boner when he is in danger.
Feb 26, 2017 2:47 PM

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Germs_N_Spices said:
Cbr_Star said:
...How did she die if she's eternal just like him?


Don't ask for spoilers if you don't actually want to be spoiled.


Ahh it's explained later then? It just seemed like a huge plot hole to me.
Feb 26, 2017 2:50 PM

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Cbr_Star said:
Germs_N_Spices said:


Don't ask for spoilers if you don't actually want to be spoiled.


Ahh it's explained later then? It just seemed like a huge plot hole to me.


It ain't a plothole at all, and actually you can probably figure out with the info you have from anime by now, but its explained by the next episode anyhow.
Feb 26, 2017 3:20 PM

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Anime-only watcher here and I kinda get where this is actually going. Now that was shockingly unbelievable.

Sorachi is the best mangaka ever lived. Hands down.

10/5
Feb 26, 2017 3:29 PM

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I remember reading the chapter with Umibouzu and Kouka... Did they cut out one of the lines that I liked? D:

More Kamui always good though, looking forward to next ep. :D
Feb 26, 2017 3:32 PM

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I feel like it's been a century since last episode xD, more action with the problematic Yato family, Kamui knew what happened all along and now so does Kagura...

Lol Kouka was a dangerous wife xD
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"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Feb 26, 2017 3:42 PM

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Its cool that he gave Kamui a better reason cause I thought the 'obsessed with fighting' is all there will be to him. Give the Gorilla a banana.
Kugimiya's really cool and some wackass shittalked her in the forums the other day


Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself.

That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes!



Feb 26, 2017 4:02 PM

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Kouka is stunning! Umibozu is a lucky man.

Umibozu vs Utsuro section was hype! I'm looking forward to seeing more next episode.

Umibozu is a pro at picking up women.
Feb 26, 2017 4:27 PM

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Heartwarming and sad episode! Sorachi only got one episode and he pretty much wrote a better love story than most of those cheesy shoujos. LOL! but Somehow sorachis romances always ends up tragically.

Utsuro vs Umi is intense! but LOL! Utsuro's head on assasinating him while Umi is more concerned with his balls! not sure if thats the proper way of clashing with a Super villain like Utsuro! Umi's reaction to his fight is always damn hilarious! Reminds me of his fight with Hosen when he had to take a dump. XD

KANKOU, KOUKA, KAMUI & KAGURA! ALL their name starts with a K!

I REALLY LOVE THIS MONSTER FAMILY SO MUCH!
Young blushy Umi is so adorable! and I get where kagura's vulgar attitude comes from (well aside from gin).


"Why don't we forget about this Orochi and go take out the Orochi in my pants"
still is the best gintama pick up line!

Kamui's calm facade was just like his mom and its obvious that he has mother complex. I can see why he hates his father. Ever since the yoshiwara arc I always thought that there is a reason why he turned out to be a blood thirsty beast!
Speaking of mommy, she sure is a real babe!
I'm also quite surprise to hear Rie's voice, I expected a bit more seductive low pitched but a mature kagura voice is not bad at all
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Feb 26, 2017 6:18 PM

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Sweet backstory with Kouka and Kankou
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Feb 26, 2017 7:05 PM

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Kouka is not only beautiful but also badass and classy af!
I love how strong all the Gintama girls are, and the guys are just complete fumbling idiots around them. Seeing Umibozu trying to court Kouka was just such an accurate depiction of guys trying to woo girls they like irl, I swear.

The line, "Why don't we get some coffee?" has never sounded so funny XD

I also love how she could kick her husband's ass and how Umibozu admits that the strongest creature of all is indeed the legendary wife!!

So I'm guessing Kouka literally cannot live anywhere but Kouan- her body can't survive on earth...which means she left her home planet knowing what was going to happen, but she still wanted to be with Umibozu against all odds.
My feels train sense is tingling ;-;

Also, young Umibozu was ridiculously handsome...he kinda looks like Hijikata with timeskip Gintoki's hair lmao- he and Kouka make a really gorgeous couple XD
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Feb 26, 2017 7:05 PM

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umibozu pick up line god
Feb 26, 2017 7:20 PM
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About time Kouka appears. She has been referenced so many times yet we finally see her face. Not dissapointed of course.
Feb 26, 2017 8:27 PM
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Best couple of mother and daughter.
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Feb 26, 2017 8:51 PM
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and utsuro using ichigo sword
Feb 26, 2017 10:21 PM

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So sad this season is just 12 episodes, considering how FUCKING AWESOME it's been so far. If previous seasons deserved the 10/10 in my opinion, this one just got into 11/10 levels.

BTW, I'd never forget about this moment :')

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Feb 27, 2017 2:11 AM

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Easily the best episode of this new season.
Feb 27, 2017 2:25 AM

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that was fucking epic and sad
Feb 27, 2017 7:59 AM

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The flashback and Kouka's debut was the best thing this episode, the fight scene was great as well. Kanko, Vegeta, Goku; the strongest men.... next to their wives.
Feb 27, 2017 9:50 AM

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OMG kouka's past ...this was such a good episode..... everything is piecing up pretty nicely
Feb 27, 2017 11:00 AM

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I was shocked though... Young Umibozu is hot af lol)
Feb 27, 2017 11:53 AM
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Not really understanding the v/a "issues". Why wouldn't younger Umibozu sound like current Umibozu..only younger? To this day, I'm mistaken for my father on the phone due to our voice similarities. Many twins sound exactly the same, so it's prety natural for Kagura to sound like Kouka. Even then, she did a great job sounding like a different char, it was very Gura-san-esque.
Feb 27, 2017 2:10 PM

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OUCH! It is kind of ironic, how crushing his own manhood makes Umibozu even more manly... Still, the glimpse into his backstory was intriguing.
Feb 27, 2017 11:20 PM

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Those boner jokes really got me. It made me chuckle even though I was having a bad day. Kouka and Umibozu's backstory in this episode is really good and it's sad to know how it will end out to be.
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Feb 28, 2017 2:10 AM

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Kankou & Kouka is my favorite couple in anime history. Amazing, sad and very different romantic relationship. I love Gintama's backstories.
Feb 28, 2017 4:03 AM
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although, I still love Gintama and its still my all time fav series

I am dissapointed with this outcome.
I liked this idea of Kamui being completely evil and Umibozu trying to reform him. This made it very unique to most anime we see. When this ended up being revenge story, it ended kinda generic.
Feb 28, 2017 12:17 PM

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Sad yet funny episode. Trying to hold my tears...just know it's going to hit harder next episode with Kamui
Mar 1, 2017 3:11 AM
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I honestly did not expect Kugimiya Rie would voice Kouka. All in all great backstory and the comedy as usual, is great.
Mar 2, 2017 12:20 PM

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What a rollercoaster of emotions! Great episode to watch on my birthday!

At times I was hyped, at times I was laughing heaps, towards the end tears were falling and at the end I was shocked by the sudden twist.

Umibouzu is too damn good! Younger him is protagonist material.
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Another hell week of waiting.
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