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Nov 23, 2015 5:39 PM
#1
When I was a kid and watched Digimon, I realised it was Sora x Taichi and Mimi x Joe ... But now there is love triangle with Sora , Taichi and Yamato ... And Joe got a girlfriend and Izumi is liking Mimi lol my dream as a child i falling apart. |
Nov 23, 2015 6:19 PM
#2
Shipping wars in fandoms often give me a sour taste in my mouth. It ruined the Naruto fandom for me and I really don't want to see that happen with Digimon so I'd rather stay out of it...but I also like the idea of anyone with anyone so I'm really indifferent to debates and such. Plus shipping on its own is fun since it can engage my involvement in the show as long as it doesn't skew my perception of the characters. As a kid I liked Taichi with Sora but also with Mimi. Now I think I like Taichi x Mimi the most still but I also enjoy Mimi with Yamato, Taichi with Yamato, and Sora with Yamato. I know Jyou x Mimi was popular but I just couldn't get into it...and I didn't even know Koushiro x Mimi existed until recently. But after watching these first four episodes I actually ship Koushiro with her as well. :D I love Mimi so much I'll pair her with anyone...I should look into Sora x Mimi next... I like shipping because I like to explore the dynamics of each individual relationship between the characters, and then expanding upon on it and speculating what a romantic involvement between them might be like. But I don't think I'll be crushed with whatever pairings this show does/doesn't decide to flesh out. I don't really like the idea of Taichi with Meiko though because I don't really like new characters being added just for the sake of being love interests (even outside of anime, I hated when shows like Grey's Anatomy or something pulled that BS). Plus I just hate the trope with the whole bold, confident hero in a relationship with a shy, timid girl who needs saving. So I think that's one area where I'll be disappointed if Digimon adds romance, just because I find that type of dynamic cliche and cheesy. |
Nov 23, 2015 6:25 PM
#3
I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. |
Nov 23, 2015 7:04 PM
#4
I liked Izzy and Mimi so I'm all for that pairing so the development here made me happy. Taiora felt like it was going to become canon in the English dub, but it ended up Sorato so I'm hoping since this is the original Japanese they might show us more in detail how they became canon so I can finally after so many years be less salty over it. xD |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Nov 23, 2015 7:24 PM
#5
Roloko said: I liked Izzy and Mimi so I'm all for that pairing so the development here made me happy. Taiora felt like it was going to become canon in the English dub, but it ended up Sorato so I'm hoping since this is the original Japanese they might show us more in detail how they became canon so I can finally after so many years be less salty over it. xD They just don't seem right. I mean . In season 01 there are so many hints about Taichi x Sora. As you said, I also feel really salty, really salty. |
Nov 23, 2015 8:35 PM
#6
Nov 23, 2015 8:54 PM
#7
Koumi is my OTP, so I enjoyed what we got. That aside, the pairing of Koumi seemed popular in Japan at one point. They're the only characters to get a CD drama focusing on that because of the fans of the pairing back then. Koushirou's love letter drama. Of course we never found out who it was for, as the answer was ambiguous, but everyone thought Mimi, except for Hikari. There's also ep 10 of Adventure. They're also the only characters of the Adventure continuity to have swapped partners where each partner was trying to get each child to understand the other. I personally thought they were going to hook them up in the future. Oh well. The Koumi junk was still super cute. When it comes to Digimon, I like a LOT of pairings... I'll make a list (on a break)... |
Nov 23, 2015 8:56 PM
#8
I never really focused on shippings in Digimon... then again I was 4-5 years old when I started watching Digimon. Although rewatching it and knowing that since 2001, people should know that Yamato will end up with Sora from 02 ending. Koushiro and Mimi ship is kind of odd at first, but then I remembered the moment they had after Devimon separated all 7 of those kids. I only think that their only moments are in that episode. Then it was all Mimi and Joe with Orgemon around Dark Masters arc. Taichi and Sora was kind of obvious too in 01, the reasons why the author pulled out Yamato x Sora is beyond me. For Hikari, she has always been idolized by lots of people but Takeru. One of the people who liked Hikari was Daisuke, but I don't think that ship would go on. So maybe Hikari x Takeru. |
Nov 23, 2015 9:04 PM
#9
Ok, here are my favorite Adventure/Adventure 02 pairings...brace yourselves. ^^' Taichi x Sora Yamato x Sora Koushirou x Mimi (Ultimate fav pairing period) Jou x Mimi (Pretty much the only Jou pair I do like) Michael x Mimi Ryou x Mimi (I sorta like this one because of the games...she does flirt with him) Yamato x Mimi (One-sided; I like Yamato > Mimi) Koushirou x Miyako (My favorite Miyako pairing) Ken x Miyako (I just find it incredibly cute; also my fav Ken pairing) Iori x Miyako (I like it one-sided; Iori with a crush on Miyako) Daisuke x Hikari Koushirou x Hikari (I like this pairing angsty and one-sided and blame the Adventure love-letter drama; Hikari > Koushirou) Takeru x Hikari (I kinda like this pairing very very angsty) Ken x Hikari (I like this pairing one-sided; Hikari > Ken) Takeru x Ken (I like this angsty and one-sided more so; Takeru > Ken) Takeru x Koushirou (Same as above, I really love this one one-sided lol; Takeru > Koushirou) Takeru x Taichi (Same as above lol; Takeru > Taichi) Yamato x Jun (In an ironic sense where it's Yamato > Jun after she gets over him) Shuu x Jun Yamato x Chizuru (Chizuru is Miyako's older sister; the one with the short hair) |
ssjup81Nov 23, 2015 9:07 PM
Nov 23, 2015 9:35 PM
#10
In Tri they are in highschool. Didnt Matt and Sora start dating in middle school ? LoL thats some weird shit. Yea director is kinda stupid for making all point in Taichi x Sora. It's not that I dislike Matt x Sora, but there were never nothing that links them. |
Nov 24, 2015 4:45 AM
#11
I also always thought Taichi and Sora would end up together and remember being really shocked by the epilogue. Watching Tri now I see they're building a clear love triangle... Yamato seems to be going for Sora while Taichi is awkward as always. Shomix said: Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. Same! I think Sora really liked Taichi but maybe he never made his feelings clear to her. I remember in the first movie they had a misunderstanding and now in this new series he's being awkward around her too (not inviting her to soccer until the last minute, etc). Taichi, get your act together!!! Stand up and ask her out! ziggy_Z said: Indeed, Taiora is OTP. I pray that Toei retcon the 02 epilogue. I don't know what the chances of this are but I look forward to seeing what happens!! |
Nov 24, 2015 7:00 AM
#12
Takari for me. |
Nov 24, 2015 8:00 AM
#13
lol love pairing is shit gay pairing iz da best Taito and Taketo 4 win |
Nov 24, 2015 9:31 AM
#14
I think they will continue with Yamato x Sora on this one shy black haired girl is clearly being set up to have a crush on Taichi and be his canon pair |
Nov 24, 2015 11:20 AM
#15
Digimon shipping is a weird one for me if only because the fandom screwed it up over the years (possibly more-so than Pokémon's fandom, weirdly enough). Don't get me wrong, when it's done in good fun, it is fun, and I enjoy it, but the cage fights with the main group is more of a turn-off than the Ash Ketchum shippings. I still have pairings I like, but there's also ones where I just don't care for and if they work, then they work, good for them. I have very few I have actual disdain towards. (Myotismon/Gatomon is one that makes me flip like what) When it comes to Digimon, my OTP is Wizardmon/Gatomon (if it's not obvious enough), and is the first thing I think of when I think of Digimon pairings--even though romance is such an alien feeling for Digimon which is why I have a personal head-canon Wizardmon's not a true Digimon to begin with--one-sided's better than nothing. I know it may never become canon what with Wizardmon being dead and gone, and it most likely never was to begin with, but there was just something so interesting about their relationship, and it's sad it wasn't touched upon as much, especially since Wizardmon was only in a few episodes, and that was it. So for all these years, there's been that little part of me that's been secretly hoping for his return if only so we could get more scenes of the two together and really get to see what their friendship was like. (Sort of got my wish with the Xros Wars manga.) For the main cast, I like Taiora, and I still do to this day, but I've come to accept it's not canon, and I'm coming around to Sorato to balance it out. I'm still a bit peeved that it was too subtle in the series, and thus why it came as a shock to me when they ended up together. (If she had ended up with Joe, I wouldn't have ever complained for an instant back in the day, because I remember their interactions more-so than her's with Matt.) That's why I'm a little hopeful Tri touches on this a little bit, and it kind of did in the beginning, but if that's as far as it'll go, that's fine by me. Takari was another one I've loved from childhood, but these days, I've been becoming a little hesitant and having been wondering whether-or-not it's actually a good pairing. The two are very close friends, and I don't think it'll ever be more than that. I don't know, maybe Tri will throw that bone, but as of now, I have to take a step back from it and think of other options. While I'm not a full supporter of Dakari, I think with enough time and maturity, the two could get on the same level as she is with T.K.--and hey, Davis and T.K. are basically best buds in 02 anyway. Whereas the Tai/Matt/Sora love triangle pretty much has a conclusion, the T.K./Davis/Kari love triangle is still up in the air, and I think that's good. As for Koumi, I've come to admire it in recent years. I don't remember ever thinking Mimi could've ended up with anyone in the group, but Izzy and Joe were some of the more common pairings at the time (that I remember running into--Matt/Mimi would poke its head in every now and then). To see Izzy developing feelings for Mimi in Tri, though, is adorable, and I'm all for it, even though it may never come to fruition. For all I know, this could be a phase similar to Davis' crush with Kari, it's just not as boisterous, and I can't see Izzy going around screaming "SHE'S MY GIRL!" at all--nor do I want to. |
Nov 24, 2015 3:18 PM
#16
Lil-Bird said: Yes, this. I hate when people take shipping super seriously. I remember writing a fic years ago which was about Takeru and Hikari being a pair, but we're only together because of its being expected of them, but you find out that neither are happy with the relationship but too blind to see it. Both also have likings towards other people. I didn't get far and some readers liked it, but rabid Takari fans flamed it and lied and reported it to get it taken down even though the rule I'd supposedly broken hadn't been broken at all.Digimon shipping is a weird one for me if only because the fandom screwed it up over the years (possibly more-so than Pokémon's fandom, weirdly enough). Don't get me wrong, when it's done in good fun, it is fun, and I enjoy it As for Koumi, I've come to admire it in recent years. I don't remember ever thinking Mimi could've ended up with anyone in the group, but Izzy and Joe were some of the more common pairings at the time (that I remember running into--Matt/Mimi would poke its head in every now and then). To see Izzy developing feelings for Mimi in Tri, though, is adorable, and I'm all for it, even though it may never come to fruition. For all I know, this could be a phase similar to Davis' crush with Kari, it's just not as boisterous, and I can't see Izzy going around screaming "SHE'S MY GIRL!" at all--nor do I want to. That was only for the dub. Daisuke was never like that. His crush was relatively normal for a kid his age. This is another reason why I dropped 02's dub. |
Nov 24, 2015 4:09 PM
#17
What I don't get is didn't Matt and Sora hook up in middle school ? Why put love triangle now when they are in highschool ... |
Nov 24, 2015 6:47 PM
#18
Sora and Yamato never married in the season. The Sora´s child looks similar to Yamato and Yamato´s child looks similar to Sora´s child. That´s it! All is possible. Nobody said that Sora and Yamato were dating in middle school. There was only one moment when you could thought their were a couple. I think it was after the concert from Yamato in 02. I always hoped for Yamato x Sora but now I´m not so sure about that because Taichi is grown up well. I hope their would be a chance for Taichi x Sora. If Taichi and Yamato are really best friends it would be better Sora married another guy. Meiko meight have been interestet in Taichi but I hope that they never are a couple. I wish Taichi a strong, beautiful and nice woman like Mimi. Izzy and Mimi are obvious in love. I always paied for Hikari x Takeru and I´m so sad that they are still friends. However how many couples came together as a teenager and get married with them. It´s only ther first love?! Come on. It´s not realistic. |
Nov 24, 2015 11:05 PM
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Nov 25, 2015 1:13 AM
#20
TwilightMystery said: Nope, it wasn't. Also, for the dub, the head writer apparently disliked the character of Daisuke, so he would purposely write "Davis" in a bad light and have the other characters put him down. Even "Izzy" did and Koushirou is one of the most polite, well-mannered characters of the show. He took a shot at Davis and he wasn't even there or the topic of discussion. In the episode where Miyako received her second Digimental, she didn't mention Daisuke or Takeru at all when triggering it. In the dub however, she insulted Davis and praised TK. I'm not sure, but I heard the later eps, Nimoy didn't write as much and that eps in general without him writing, Davis was portrayed slightly better.I watched the dub so I can only comment on that, but I never got the feeling Digimon was about romance. Sure, there were moments where characters showed concern for each other but that was mostly out of friendship. Yeah, this pretty much. Even the series director mentioned the importance of both Yamato and Sora to Taichi and stuff and seemed to focus on the friendship thing.It's not like the characters went on dates, Well, in movie 4, the photo of Yamato and Sora was of them on a date, which was why Miyako was complaining about its being an invasion of privacy.got jealous, blushed or any sort of major romantic development. Unless of course the Japanese sub has dialogue that implied this? Maybe someone can elaborate on that. Nah, not really. With the older kids, their stuff's offscreen, although, from the Christmas episode in 02, it seemed like Taichi had a crush on Sora and still does for Tri. For the 02 episode, Taichi's urging Sora to give Yamato her present and the look on his face said a lot, imo. It seemed like he didn't want her to give her present to him. Sora's present was a homemade treat. In Japan, that says a lot. The conversation (in the original) showed that she had no idea how Taichi felt. Agumon then went on to say that Taichi had matured. That's the icing on the cake, imo, that Taichi possibly liked Sora and that Agumon picked up on it.In Tri, at the part where Yamato was asking Sora to attend the concert, Taichi looked like he was trying to avoid both of them after focusing on Sora. Seems odd of him to do if the two aren't together. Moving on to Tri, I'm pleasantly surprised to see a change in romantic development. Izzy and Mimi make a really interesting dynamic. Izzy is the same as always except now he's interested in girls. And Mimi was never much of a tease as she is now but she's certainly still got that ego. Ego? I never would've described her as egotistical. She's more bubbly and friendly than anything else and also likes teasing. This isn't the first time.That aside, back in 1999 and early 2000, there were three CD dramas released. The first one dealt with Taichi and Sora fighting against a Digimon on the Rainbow Bridge, the other was about Sora running a radio show (her seiyuu, Mizutani Yuuko used to do one at the time) and the last one dealt with Jou being approached after a battle to become an "idol" due to fans requesting it. Later, the rep that approached him said that the request wasn't for him, but was for Koushirou and Mimi and maybe Hikari. The second drama cd dealt with Koushirou getting caught writing a love letter and everyone, much to his dismay, trying to figure out who it was for while having him tied and gagged. Everyone figured it was for Mimi...except for Hikari. Mimi does end up insulting her, breaking the fourth wall about how her character wasn't even around since the beginning or whatever it was. Tailmon was offended by Mimi's words and evolved to Angewomon and Palmon evolved to Togemon to fight. With all that going on, Tentomon managed to free Koushirou and he tells him who the letter was for, but it was an ambiguous answer. His laptop beeped and all we heard was the "-san" part of his answer. He uses the san honorific with Sora, Mimi, and Hikari. The third drama dealt with Yamato and Takeru for New Year's. Takeru's New Year's dream. It was so cute. The other track dealt with the Digimon putting on a New Year's show for their partners. This was hilarious, especially Agumon at the end! Anywho, Japanese fans requested something dealing with Koumi, hence the second drama CD. I always figured a Joe and Mimi relationship but he already has someone! That's got me really curious. Realistically, I didn't expect much since Mimi was living overseas due to her father's job.And who is TK's girlfriend? That's another puzzler. He said she was only a friend, but that's always been my head cannon. An older Takeru being popular with girls or girls finding him cute or whatever. lolI have a feeling drama/romance will play a larger portion in Tri especially after seeing Tai act so serious. Generally, it would be the other way around, with Tai being the headstrong one and Matt holding back. Yeah, I'm expecting more drama too. In all honesty, I don't mind it, but I don't feel that romance will be heavy or anything.wildandheart said: There was no reason to state it. The two hooked up in junior high. Also, the child with Sora had a Tsunomon and the kid with Yamato had a Pyokomon. Also, unlike the other characters, they panned from Sora to Yamato (or vice-versa)...they didn't do that with the others.Sora and Yamato never married in the season. The Sora's child looks similar to Yamato and Yamato's child looks similar to Sora's child. That's it! All is possible. Nobody said that Sora and Yamato were dating in middle school. There was only one moment when you could thought their were a couple. I think it was after the concert from Yamato in 02. He had his arm around her later on. Here in Japan, that actually means something and only seen with couples. Girls holding hands or linking arms, it's not seen as strange and assumed they're friends. Guys horsing around with an arm around the shoulder, nothing. A male and female doing these things show they're a couple. There's also movie four where Sora's arm was linked with Yamato's. The photo was of them on a date. There's also the CD dramas that take place after 02, like the Valentine one (takes place February 2003) where Yamato publicly shouted to Sora that he loved her..If Taichi and Yamato are really best friends it would be better Sora married another guy. Why should she? Back in the Christmas ep, she obviously had no idea that Taichi possibly liked her. I heard that the dub screwed that up. In the original, it was obvious she didn't and I doubt Yamato did either.Meiko meight have been interestet in Taichi but I hope that they never are a couple. I didn't even think much about it.However how many couples came together as a teenager and get married with them. It's only ther first love?! Come on. It's not realistic. My aunt and uncle. Known each other since middle school, couple since high school. In their late 50s now. My own parents met at the age of 19...if that counts...That aside, it's common in Japanese stories. Getting down to it, seems to be an ideal in fiction in general. Look at Cory and Topanga from Boy Meets World, for example. As far as Japanese stuff goes, I wonder if it's more common here since kids spend so much darn time in school together. |
ssjup81Nov 25, 2015 1:44 AM
Nov 25, 2015 2:20 AM
#21
As a kid, i ship Tachi with Mimi so hard but that'll never happen :< but after seeing this tri, im starting to ship Izzy x Mimi as well they're so cute Sorato is canon in 02 Shomix said: What I don't get is didn't Matt and Sora hook up in middle school ? Why put love triangle now when they are in highschool ... definitely this. |
Nov 25, 2015 6:12 AM
#22
Lil-Bird said: Digimon shipping is a weird one for me if only because the fandom screwed it up over the years (possibly more-so than Pokémon's fandom, weirdly enough). Don't get me wrong, when it's done in good fun, it is fun, and I enjoy it, but the cage fights with the main group is more of a turn-off than the Ash Ketchum shippings. I still have pairings I like, but there's also ones where I just don't care for and if they work, then they work, good for them. I have very few I have actual disdain towards. (Myotismon/Gatomon is one that makes me flip like what) When it comes to Digimon, my OTP is Wizardmon/Gatomon (if it's not obvious enough), and is the first thing I think of when I think of Digimon pairings--even though romance is such an alien feeling for Digimon which is why I have a personal head-canon Wizardmon's not a true Digimon to begin with--one-sided's better than nothing. I know it may never become canon what with Wizardmon being dead and gone, and it most likely never was to begin with, but there was just something so interesting about their relationship, and it's sad it wasn't touched upon as much, especially since Wizardmon was only in a few episodes, and that was it. So for all these years, there's been that little part of me that's been secretly hoping for his return if only so we could get more scenes of the two together and really get to see what their friendship was like. (Sort of got my wish with the Xros Wars manga.) For the main cast, I like Taiora, and I still do to this day, but I've come to accept it's not canon, and I'm coming around to Sorato to balance it out. I'm still a bit peeved that it was too subtle in the series, and thus why it came as a shock to me when they ended up together. (If she had ended up with Joe, I wouldn't have ever complained for an instant back in the day, because I remember their interactions more-so than her's with Matt.) That's why I'm a little hopeful Tri touches on this a little bit, and it kind of did in the beginning, but if that's as far as it'll go, that's fine by me. Takari was another one I've loved from childhood, but these days, I've been becoming a little hesitant and having been wondering whether-or-not it's actually a good pairing. The two are very close friends, and I don't think it'll ever be more than that. I don't know, maybe Tri will throw that bone, but as of now, I have to take a step back from it and think of other options. While I'm not a full supporter of Dakari, I think with enough time and maturity, the two could get on the same level as she is with T.K.--and hey, Davis and T.K. are basically best buds in 02 anyway. Whereas the Tai/Matt/Sora love triangle pretty much has a conclusion, the T.K./Davis/Kari love triangle is still up in the air, and I think that's good. As for Koumi, I've come to admire it in recent years. I don't remember ever thinking Mimi could've ended up with anyone in the group, but Izzy and Joe were some of the more common pairings at the time (that I remember running into--Matt/Mimi would poke its head in every now and then). To see Izzy developing feelings for Mimi in Tri, though, is adorable, and I'm all for it, even though it may never come to fruition. For all I know, this could be a phase similar to Davis' crush with Kari, it's just not as boisterous, and I can't see Izzy going around screaming "SHE'S MY GIRL!" at all--nor do I want to. I agree, shipping of Adv fandom is more annoying than Pokemon's Satoshi shipping fandom. That's why I prefer non-Adventure Digimon bcos less annoying shipping |
Nov 25, 2015 3:08 PM
#23
TwilightMystery said: Ah, never mind then. lol. Yeah, you're right.ssjup81 said: That's true, however I was only referring to season 1 where there was no romantic development. From what I hear, a lot of people started shipping from the first season. Well, in movie 4, the photo of Yamato and Sora was of them on a date, which was why Miyako was complaining about its being an invasion of privacy. 02 and the movies are the main areas where we saw slight romance as you mentioned. Only with Sora and Yamato, though. Can't think of any other characters right off. In movie 2, the Sora possibly liking Taichi stuff wasn't supposed to have originally been there and that someone had obviously missed the memo. Also for movie 2, it was obvious that Taichi didn't feel anything romantically for Sora. He was annoyed regarding her the entire film.1. In 02, Matt and Sora went on dates and Sora even baked home-made sweets for him. Yup.2. In the movies, Joe sent Mimi a heart-shaped gift which I think was for Valentines. Neither of these events are seen in Tri. It seems like Sora isn't with Matt. In fact it looks like she is still on the fence about liking Matt or Tai because of how Kari and Mimi teased her at the restaurant. And this is despite the fact that she's gone on a date with Matt in 02 and baked him home-made sweets, none of which she did for Tai. I'll give you that, with the teasing by Mimi and Hikari, but at the same time, the film was focusing on Taichi. There's nothing to say they aren't together, even though it's a bit ambiguous. Like I mentioned earlier, during the scene when Yamato was asking Sora to attend his concert with his new band, Taichi stared at Sora and kept going until Sora noticed him. They're his friends. Why would he avoid both of them as it seems that's what he was doing? If Yamato and Sora are a couple and Taichi likes Sora, then it would make sense for him to avoid the pair whenever they're alone together as it probably makes him feel awkward., but probably has no problem with being alone with one or the other or if in a group setting.Also, it wouldn't make sense for Tai to message Sora (Matt's apparent girlfriend) to come to his soccer game instead of her own boyfriend's concert. But they're also friends. That aside, I think Taichi realized this given how he was slightly hesitating while sending the message.In addition, Joe clearly has no interest in Mimi since he has a girlfriend. So that scene in the movie of him sending her a heart-shaped gift was totally ignored. Yup, because it (Valentine) wasn't originally there, unfortunately.Tri seems to be focusing more on a direct continuation of season 1 rather than 02 and the movies so I can't say how much of what happened in 02 happened in Tri as well. Well, to be fair, it's still the first part of the series. We just have to wait and see how it goes.Ego? I never would've described her as egotistical. She's more bubbly and friendly than anything else and also likes teasing. This isn't the first time. Perhaps ego wasn't the right word for the situation. However, in the first season she always did give off the idea that she was spoiled and thinking to highly of herself. Remember that episode where she took advantage of the Gekomon and acted like a tyrannical Queen? I know she came out of that mind-set but when she teased Izzy it reminded me of her old persona at the time. |
Nov 25, 2015 3:15 PM
#24
I'm still rooting for Taichi and Mimi... And those of you who say that this pairing is impossible~ Joe having a girlfriend was also impossible. |
Nov 25, 2015 4:52 PM
#25
ssjup81 said: Nope, it wasn't. Also, for the dub, the head writer apparently disliked the character of Daisuke, so he would purposely write "Davis" in a bad light and have the other characters put him down. Even "Izzy" did and Koushirou is one of the most polite, well-mannered characters of the show. He took a shot at Davis and he wasn't even there or the topic of discussion. In the episode where Miyako received her second Digimental, she didn't mention Daisuke or Takeru at all when triggering it. In the dub however, she insulted Davis and praised TK. I'm not sure, but I heard the later eps, Nimoy didn't write as much and that eps in general without him writing, Davis was portrayed slightly better. Ah, this explains why Daisuke/Davis is a much better character in the subbed version of the show |
Nov 25, 2015 5:02 PM
#26
Well if they intended to continue from 02 , Matt and Sora would be in a relationship and they would put Tai with Meiko without creating love triangle. But they didn't. Maybe because it's celebration we might see Tai x sora , Matt x meiko ( he saved her from that digimon , maybe she falls in love just like Sora did in 02), I guess Izzy x Mimi ( but i would prefer Joe) ... But Hikari and Takeru are just perfect for eachother. |
Nov 25, 2015 5:06 PM
#27
ssjup81 said: TwilightMystery said: Nope, it wasn't. Also, for the dub, the head writer apparently disliked the character of Daisuke, so he would purposely write "Davis" in a bad light and have the other characters put him down. Even "Izzy" did and Koushirou is one of the most polite, well-mannered characters of the show. He took a shot at Davis and he wasn't even there or the topic of discussion. In the episode where Miyako received her second Digimental, she didn't mention Daisuke or Takeru at all when triggering it. In the dub however, she insulted Davis and praised TK. I'm not sure, but I heard the later eps, Nimoy didn't write as much and that eps in general without him writing, Davis was portrayed slightly better.I watched the dub so I can only comment on that, but I never got the feeling Digimon was about romance. Sure, there were moments where characters showed concern for each other but that was mostly out of friendship. Yeah, this pretty much. Even the series director mentioned the importance of both Yamato and Sora to Taichi and stuff and seemed to focus on the friendship thing.It's not like the characters went on dates, Well, in movie 4, the photo of Yamato and Sora was of them on a date, which was why Miyako was complaining about its being an invasion of privacy.got jealous, blushed or any sort of major romantic development. Unless of course the Japanese sub has dialogue that implied this? Maybe someone can elaborate on that. Nah, not really. With the older kids, their stuff's offscreen, although, from the Christmas episode in 02, it seemed like Taichi had a crush on Sora and still does for Tri. For the 02 episode, Taichi's urging Sora to give Yamato her present and the look on his face said a lot, imo. It seemed like he didn't want her to give her present to him. Sora's present was a homemade treat. In Japan, that says a lot. The conversation (in the original) showed that she had no idea how Taichi felt. Agumon then went on to say that Taichi had matured. That's the icing on the cake, imo, that Taichi possibly liked Sora and that Agumon picked up on it.In Tri, at the part where Yamato was asking Sora to attend the concert, Taichi looked like he was trying to avoid both of them after focusing on Sora. Seems odd of him to do if the two aren't together. Moving on to Tri, I'm pleasantly surprised to see a change in romantic development. Izzy and Mimi make a really interesting dynamic. Izzy is the same as always except now he's interested in girls. And Mimi was never much of a tease as she is now but she's certainly still got that ego. Ego? I never would've described her as egotistical. She's more bubbly and friendly than anything else and also likes teasing. This isn't the first time.That aside, back in 1999 and early 2000, there were three CD dramas released. The first one dealt with Taichi and Sora fighting against a Digimon on the Rainbow Bridge, the other was about Sora running a radio show (her seiyuu, Mizutani Yuuko used to do one at the time) and the last one dealt with Jou being approached after a battle to become an "idol" due to fans requesting it. Later, the rep that approached him said that the request wasn't for him, but was for Koushirou and Mimi and maybe Hikari. The second drama cd dealt with Koushirou getting caught writing a love letter and everyone, much to his dismay, trying to figure out who it was for while having him tied and gagged. Everyone figured it was for Mimi...except for Hikari. Mimi does end up insulting her, breaking the fourth wall about how her character wasn't even around since the beginning or whatever it was. Tailmon was offended by Mimi's words and evolved to Angewomon and Palmon evolved to Togemon to fight. With all that going on, Tentomon managed to free Koushirou and he tells him who the letter was for, but it was an ambiguous answer. His laptop beeped and all we heard was the "-san" part of his answer. He uses the san honorific with Sora, Mimi, and Hikari. The third drama dealt with Yamato and Takeru for New Year's. Takeru's New Year's dream. It was so cute. The other track dealt with the Digimon putting on a New Year's show for their partners. This was hilarious, especially Agumon at the end! Anywho, Japanese fans requested something dealing with Koumi, hence the second drama CD. I always figured a Joe and Mimi relationship but he already has someone! That's got me really curious. Realistically, I didn't expect much since Mimi was living overseas due to her father's job.And who is TK's girlfriend? That's another puzzler. He said she was only a friend, but that's always been my head cannon. An older Takeru being popular with girls or girls finding him cute or whatever. lolI have a feeling drama/romance will play a larger portion in Tri especially after seeing Tai act so serious. Generally, it would be the other way around, with Tai being the headstrong one and Matt holding back. Yeah, I'm expecting more drama too. In all honesty, I don't mind it, but I don't feel that romance will be heavy or anything.wildandheart said: There was no reason to state it. The two hooked up in junior high. Also, the child with Sora had a Tsunomon and the kid with Yamato had a Pyokomon. Also, unlike the other characters, they panned from Sora to Yamato (or vice-versa)...they didn't do that with the others.Sora and Yamato never married in the season. The Sora's child looks similar to Yamato and Yamato's child looks similar to Sora's child. That's it! All is possible. Nobody said that Sora and Yamato were dating in middle school. There was only one moment when you could thought their were a couple. I think it was after the concert from Yamato in 02. He had his arm around her later on. Here in Japan, that actually means something and only seen with couples. Girls holding hands or linking arms, it's not seen as strange and assumed they're friends. Guys horsing around with an arm around the shoulder, nothing. A male and female doing these things show they're a couple. There's also movie four where Sora's arm was linked with Yamato's. The photo was of them on a date. There's also the CD dramas that take place after 02, like the Valentine one (takes place February 2003) where Yamato publicly shouted to Sora that he loved her..If Taichi and Yamato are really best friends it would be better Sora married another guy. Why should she? Back in the Christmas ep, she obviously had no idea that Taichi possibly liked her. I heard that the dub screwed that up. In the original, it was obvious she didn't and I doubt Yamato did either.Meiko meight have been interestet in Taichi but I hope that they never are a couple. I didn't even think much about it.However how many couples came together as a teenager and get married with them. It's only ther first love?! Come on. It's not realistic. My aunt and uncle. Known each other since middle school, couple since high school. In their late 50s now. My own parents met at the age of 19...if that counts...That aside, it's common in Japanese stories. Getting down to it, seems to be an ideal in fiction in general. Look at Cory and Topanga from Boy Meets World, for example. As far as Japanese stuff goes, I wonder if it's more common here since kids spend so much darn time in school together. It´s definitivly not common in Japan to marry the frist love usually they break up soon maybe not in the anime but in real life. There is not clearly point to fix the idea with Yamato and Sora. I konw there are a lot of clues but we can´t know it for sure. |
wildandheartNov 25, 2015 5:20 PM
Nov 28, 2015 3:22 PM
#28
My fave pairings are: Tai x Sora TK x Kari Izzy x Mimi |
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Nov 28, 2015 5:56 PM
#29
I always shipped TK and Kari. They are so cute together XD And Matt x Sora was always strange to me. That episode when Tai says that she should give her present to Matt and gets all sad was heartbreaking, I was rooting for them :v So, hoping for Tai x Sora o/ Izzy x Mimi is really cute! I like either Izzy x Mimi or Joe x Mimi, but since Joe now has a girlfriend.. |
Nov 28, 2015 8:34 PM
#30
I have always shipped Tai x Sora. It was fun seeing Tai all flustered during Bokura no War Game because of their small fight but it was heartbreaking seeing him giving up Sora for his best friend. God I hate NTR! TK apparently also has a girlfriend in Tri. I wonder how it'll work out. I have always shipped him with Kari but I'm not so sure anymore. |
Nov 28, 2015 10:15 PM
#31
TwilightMystery said: Tenshi_Shura said: At first that's what I thought as well but I'm hoping the anime is just trying to trick us into thinking TK has a girlfriend. After all, TK did say she was just a friend to Kari. Maybe our ship is still possible!I have always shipped Tai x Sora. It was fun seeing Tai all flustered during Bokura no War Game because of their small fight but it was heartbreaking seeing him giving up Sora for his best friend. God I hate NTR! TK apparently also has a girlfriend in Tri. I wonder how it'll work out. I have always shipped him with Kari but I'm not so sure anymore. He apparently must have multiple friends who are girls, he called up a second person on his cell about the concert before the credits rolled. Kari's got a lot of competition. |
Dec 5, 2015 2:36 PM
#32
Oh man I just watched this a few weeks ago and jeezus was it full os shipteases not that I'm complaining (*´ч ` *)♡ Seems like the only solid way overdue pairing right is Kari/TK. I have a feeling no real relationships will actually be established at this point (in comparison to the nightmarish Adventure 02) considering how whipped Matt and Tai are for Sora/Izzy and Joe for Mimi (ฅ・ิω・ิฅ) And also that bit of Matt/Tai on the side (・ڡ・)♡ |
Dec 6, 2015 10:03 PM
#33
Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. |
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Dec 7, 2015 6:08 AM
#34
YamoNoOkami said: The series director said that Yamato X Sora was planned from the beginning. Still don't get why people just won't accept that they married.Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. |
Dec 7, 2015 6:13 AM
#35
ssjup81 said: YamoNoOkami said: The series director said that Yamato X Sora was planned from the beginning. Still don't get why people just won't accept that they married.Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. Because there was more interaction between Tai and Sora in adventure than Matt and Sora, because of that you can easily say they had more chemistry since you know, you've seen them more together than we see Sora with Matt...I dont really believe the director planned Matt and Sora together since the beginning when it makes 0 sense. this is exactly the same with Naruto when kishimoto said he planned Naruto and Hinata together since the beginning yet there wasn't any serious moments between these two in the story lol |
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Dec 7, 2015 7:56 AM
#36
ssjup81 said: YamoNoOkami said: The series director said that Yamato X Sora was planned from the beginning. Still don't get why people just won't accept that they married.Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. Mostly because we were treated with a handful of interactions between Tai and Sora more that we assumed and was so certain that they would end up together but alas, the NTR has intervened. |
Dec 7, 2015 10:49 AM
#37
Dec 7, 2015 8:49 PM
#38
badwolf45f said: Well, yeah as it was established that Taichi and Sora had known each other since their Hikarigaoka days and were in the same class back then as well. The problem, though as far as 02 goes is that we rarely, if ever, saw the older kids interacting casually with one another since it focused on action and stuff.ssjup81 said: YamoNoOkami said: Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. Because there was more interaction between Tai and Sora in adventure than Matt and Sora, because of that you can easily say they had more chemistry since you know, you've seen them more together than we see Sora with Matt...I dont really believe the director planned Matt and Sora together since the beginning when it makes 0 sense. this is exactly the same with Naruto when kishimoto said he planned Naruto and Hinata together since the beginning yet there wasn't any serious moments between these two in the story lol Yamato and Sora are friends. Their relationship formed offscreen. We don't know how they were, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they fell for one another. If 02 had been treated as more of a Slice of life series, I'm sure it probably would've been focused on at some point, but just wasn't that type of series and their relationship had nothing of importance to add to the overall plot I guess. |
Dec 9, 2015 3:31 PM
#39
badwolf45f said: ssjup81 said: YamoNoOkami said: Shomix said: I didn't watch season 2, because i always thought its about some other kids. But now people are saying how Yamato x Sora married and stuff after season 2 eded in some epilogue. Damn I really like Taichi x Sora , i felt like Sora really did like Taichi. But well. We will see what happens next. In epilogue of S2 they show everyone grown up and having children but they didn't stayed clearly who is with who with one exception of two characters who are only from S2. True S2 does lean allot toward Sora x Yamato so people just assumed so. All characters from S1 are present in S2 but only Takeru and Hikari stay as main characters, also S2 is nowhere near as good as S1. Back in a topic in a way I ship all parings, true my favorite ones are those around Taichi (Taichi x Sora/Mimi/Hikari) and also Lilimon, I just like her so much that I ship her with everyone. Well I hope they just give us lots of shipping material and leave it at that so we can continue to ship all parings. Because there was more interaction between Tai and Sora in adventure than Matt and Sora, because of that you can easily say they had more chemistry since you know, you've seen them more together than we see Sora with Matt...I dont really believe the director planned Matt and Sora together since the beginning when it makes 0 sense. this is exactly the same with Naruto when kishimoto said he planned Naruto and Hinata together since the beginning yet there wasn't any serious momen ts between these two in the story lol I kind of remeber diferent As i remember Kishimoto said in a interview he actually decided it midway through the story |
Reymon698Dec 9, 2015 3:36 PM
no |
Dec 9, 2015 6:39 PM
#40
TwilightMystery said: Again, even the Digimon movie implied Tai and Sora had romantic feelings between them. Once again, I watched the dub version so maybe the dialogue is different in Japanese. The director of the film, Mamoru Hosoda, didn't realize Tai/Sora wasn't supposed to be a thing, so the implications are in both versions of the film stemming from them having a fight over her birthday present, but the tease was more blatant in the English dub. It's possible Sora may have misinterpreted the e-mail a little due to the heart emoticon accidentally put at the end of Tai's name, likewise in the dub with "Love, Tai" instead of "From, Tai" (although the dub added more to the message like "a few raindrops between friends", like pfft, so cheesy but I love it), but she could've written it off as Tai being an idiot like always (an idiot with a big heart at that). At the end of the credits in the original version, she had sent him an e-mail apologizing and thanking him for the present, and there's a photo of her happily wearing the hair clip. |
Dec 10, 2015 7:28 AM
#41
Well from the original epilogue the only confirmed pairing we do know will be most defiantly confirmed are Sora with Yamato abd Ken with Miyako. all the others were never stated so who knows. Tai with sora is officially out of the equation i think in the end of this series he might end up with this new girl. as for the rest i really did not notice much..T.k and kari are the only pair i ever really shipped and i do hope they end up together in the end. The think with Izzy and Mimi was very unexpected .... to say the least..thinking back i actually prefer her to end up with Joe...i always tought they had the best chemistry but if it does not work out i am fine with it.... i really hope they still end up together tough. |
Dec 10, 2015 3:13 PM
#42
Lil-Bird said: Also in the original it felt very one-sided. Taichi was annoyed over Sora's anger at him for the whole film.TwilightMystery said: Again, even the Digimon movie implied Tai and Sora had romantic feelings between them. Once again, I watched the dub version so maybe the dialogue is different in Japanese. The director of the film, Mamoru Hosoda, didn't realize Tai/Sora wasn't supposed to be a thing, so the implications are in both versions of the film stemming from them having a fight over her birthday present, but the tease was more blatant in the English dub. It's possible Sora may have misinterpreted the e-mail a little due to the heart emoticon accidentally put at the end of Tai's name, likewise in the dub with "Love, Tai" instead of "From, Tai" (although the dub added more to the message like "a few raindrops between friends", like pfft, so cheesy but I love it), but she could've written it off as Tai being an idiot like always (an idiot with a big heart at that). At the end of the credits in the original version, she had sent him an e-mail apologizing and thanking him for the present, and there's a photo of her happily wearing the hair clip. |
Dec 10, 2015 3:20 PM
#43
TwilightMystery said: I think there was more to it, though and I also chalk it up to a friend saving a friend. He blamed himself for Sora's capture because he was playing around too much. He'd been friends with Sora for years and the longest. I don't feel that was a "hint" towards the ship in a romantic sense as I feel if you replaced her with....any of the others, he still would've reacted the same to some extent because he would've blamed himself. He owned up and took responsibility.Reymon698 said: In terms of 01, there was much more to imply TaixSora. Especially during that episode where Datamon captured Sora and Tai saved her from him. [I kind of remeber diferent As i remember Kishimoto said in a interview he actually decided it midway through the story Again, even the Digimon movie implied Tai and Sora had romantic feelings between them. Once again, I watched the dub version so maybe the dialogue is different in Japanese. The scene was cute and a good Taichi and Sora moment, and despite my being a big Taiora fan at that time, I never saw it as a romantic hint, but a friendship hint. |
Dec 10, 2015 3:25 PM
#44
TwilightMystery said: Yup. Seems people have to venture to the Adventure novelization and CD dramas for that.ssjup81 said: I agree, but I guess my point was that that was the closest thing to romance that we ever got out of Tai x Sora (atleast in the dub). And also, at the very least it proves there was more Tai and Sora interaction than Sora and Matt even if the interaction was out of friendly obligationThe scene was cute and a good Taichi and Sora moment, and despite my being a big Taiora fan at that time, I never saw it as a romantic hint, but a friendship hint. |
Dec 13, 2015 11:00 PM
#45
I don't get to into shipping I have some I like but as long as it ends decent and not with random couples such as The World God Only Knows (still hate that ending), I'm fine. For me I've always been a Taichi x Mimi fan, which is much better then love triangle rubbish. |
Dec 14, 2015 7:15 PM
#46
One thing that this first movie did not answer is WHETHER MATT AND SORA WERE A COUPLE OR NOT!!!!!!!!! COME ON!!!!!! You should have started with those two to see if they were together or not and then go from there with the shipping stuff!!!!! |
Dec 17, 2015 5:56 AM
#47
ooo333 said: One thing that this first movie did not answer is WHETHER MATT AND SORA WERE A COUPLE OR NOT!!!!!!!!! COME ON!!!!!! You should have started with those two to see if they were together or not and then go from there with the shipping stuff!!!!! So the beginning with Matt inviting Sora to his concert and Tai trying to walk away to not interrupt them didn't count? |
Dec 19, 2015 5:21 AM
#49
TwilightMystery said: Lil-Bird said: I don't think it counts. No guarantee they are together but it does mean they have feelings for each other. ooo333 said: One thing that this first movie did not answer is WHETHER MATT AND SORA WERE A COUPLE OR NOT!!!!!!!!! COME ON!!!!!! You should have started with those two to see if they were together or not and then go from there with the shipping stuff!!!!! So the beginning with Matt inviting Sora to his concert and Tai trying to walk away to not interrupt them didn't count? Mimi and Kari wouldn't tease Sora about choosing between Tai and Matt during their trip to the restaurant if Sora was already with Matt. It wouldn't make much sense to do so. And if it was a joke then it was in bad taste. If we do find out that Sora and Matt are in fact together in the next movie then I'm calling this film out for it's misleading script. I agree. If the second movie shows us that Matt and Sora were together from the start then I say it's a terrible tactic on the script writers to tease Taiora fans. |
Dec 19, 2015 11:40 AM
#50
Sorato: Am I honestly the only one that loves Sora and Yamato's relationship? Seriously, since childhood, I was always the one that thought Yamato and Sora were perfect and wasn't surprised that they got married in the end. I also loved them more than any other digimon pair if it wasn't for the drama CD about Sora and the girls being kidnapped by an evil digimon ( I dont remember who) and Yamato disguised as a FREAKING delivery man and distracted the digimon and also screamed "aishiteru" to Sora, which was a BIG deal since married couples in Japan can go through years of marriage without saying that and he said it after 2 MONTHS of dating. Koumi: About Koumi, Its cute, It gives me cavities, It's my favorite Koushiro pairing and I have been waiting for years that Koushiro would like Mimi, and it looks like it came true :) Ps: also, I'm worried of what will happen in the second movie because the preview says that Koushiro tries to stop Mimi who was trying to fight an Ogremon(?) and something surprising happens?) Takari: I bet 90000000¥ that Takeru has fallen for Hikari, like what their Seiyuus said, Hikari teases him while she doesn't know herself. Focus (Takeru) and Reflection (Hikari) those songs clearly are stating about eachother and about how they feel about eachother. Also bike stopping cliche! |
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