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Jul 12, 2015 3:39 AM

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Not double-posting isn't hard.
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Imeon said:
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Close scouting of local villages. They've been here for a whole month.

Plus the above ^^^^^


Record their talking and let AI computers do the decoding.


You have program those with the actual language then if you don't knew the language then how can you program then to translate.
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I don't know about you guys, but Duran reminded me of Fate Zero Rider. Especially during the scene where he leads his army during the night battle. It's like Broskandar vs Gilgamesh again.
Jul 12, 2015 6:18 AM
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Jul 12, 2015 8:01 AM

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did you think their scout team has too many sergeants ?
Jul 12, 2015 8:38 AM

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There's something satisfying about hitting those sword-wielding guys with DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM.

But on a more serious note, these two episodes convinced me to start reading the manga. Loving both the anime and manga so far.
Jul 12, 2015 12:10 PM
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So this one was interesting and funny at times. I'm liking this series so far, don't think I'm gonna drop it

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Jul 12, 2015 1:41 PM

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The answer to being obliterated is to keep charging in apparently...I liked the differences between the strategies of the two forces. Obviously one is vastly superior thus far. Still has a good balance of comedy between to keep it light at times.
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UnlimitdLazyWrks said:
The answer to being obliterated is to keep charging in apparently...I liked the differences between the strategies of the two forces. Obviously one is vastly superior thus far. Still has a good balance of comedy between to keep it light at times.


Pickett's Charge...
Jul 12, 2015 6:49 PM

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So like, let's see:

- The US is EEEEVIIIILLL.

- The Empire(which we can compare to the Roman Empire and on a larger & simpler scale, medieval Europe) is EVIIILLL.

- The JSDF are simply defenders.

- MC is a hardcore otaku which will probably save his haremmettes that from the BAD people within their own land.

Of course, this was expected to be a power fantasy and one if not after the 1st episode, then at least after this one, one would be a fool to think otherwise. No problem there. Plenty of us enjoy these after all, if perhaps in varying genres.

But what I do find a problem and downright pathetic is that it seems like it's gonna try to tackle topics such a show shouldn't touch with a 10 feet pole. War's not pretty, killing's not pretty and GATE ain't a comedy, nor is it making a parody out of it, it's actually taking itself seriously.. We're just 2 eps in so it might be too early to confirm this but so far, the JSDF' are kind of getting white washed. 120.000 dead and not a single body shown . Okay.

As for looking at it from a purely entertaining standpoint. Is a one sided battle really that fun to watch when it's not played for laughs?
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Well, probably its because is a anime? Its impossible one animation have the same heave stuff for the original source, and Gate its one off those with a lot of corpses censored( and the most gore still will come later).

I agree with you, but unfortunately, its rare a anime airs on late night, where could be made without censorship....
Jul 12, 2015 7:31 PM

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Well, probably its because is a anime? Its impossible one animation have the same heave stuff for the original source, and Gate its one off those with a lot of corpses censored( and the most gore still will come later).

I agree with you, but unfortunately, its rare a anime airs on late night, where could be made without censorship....


Well, that would be a reasonable excuse for it but sadly, not even completely scorched bodies that wouldn't need to show anything needing to be censored are shown. Even the characters don't react at all seeing that so many died. They may be soldiers and the ones they killed may be the enemy, but it's rather hard not to get at least some reaction from all that killing unless they'd all be hardcore veterans, which I doubt.

It's more of a problem that the show's making zero effort to show that killing 120k soldiers really isn't a pretty sight, even if there was no other way around it. A necessary evil should be shown as one, not white washed.

Of course, since it's just the 2nd ep, I'll eat my words if GATE proves me that it actually aware of that later on.
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Well, probably its because is a anime? Its impossible one animation have the same heave stuff for the original source, and Gate its one off those with a lot of corpses censored( and the most gore still will come later).

I agree with you, but unfortunately, its rare a anime airs on late night, where could be made without censorship....


Well, that would be a reasonable excuse for it but sadly, not even completely scorched bodies that wouldn't need to show anything needing to be censored are shown. Even the characters don't react at all seeing that so many died. They may be soldiers and the ones they killed may be the enemy, but it's rather hard not to get at least some reaction from all that killing unless they'd all be hardcore veterans, which I doubt.

It's more of a problem that the show's making zero effort to show that killing 120k soldiers really isn't a pretty sight, even if there was no other way around it. A necessary evil should be shown as one, not white washed.

Of course, since it's just the 2nd ep, I'll eat my words if GATE proves me that it actually aware of that later on.

You want to see shocked reactions? Okay well is there a spoiler tag?
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MgMasterOfRivia said:
Kyruga said:
Well, probably its because is a anime? Its impossible one animation have the same heave stuff for the original source, and Gate its one off those with a lot of corpses censored( and the most gore still will come later).

I agree with you, but unfortunately, its rare a anime airs on late night, where could be made without censorship....


Well, that would be a reasonable excuse for it but sadly, not even completely scorched bodies that wouldn't need to show anything needing to be censored are shown. Even the characters don't react at all seeing that so many died. They may be soldiers and the ones they killed may be the enemy, but it's rather hard not to get at least some reaction from all that killing unless they'd all be hardcore veterans, which I doubt.

It's more of a problem that the show's making zero effort to show that killing 120k soldiers really isn't a pretty sight, even if there was no other way around it. A necessary evil should be shown as one, not white washed.

Of course, since it's just the 2nd ep, I'll eat my words if GATE proves me that it actually aware of that later on.


You literally see one guy losing two of his limbs. It's just toned down.

It got the feeling they will make 1-2 semi-gory scenes per episode, like in EP1 with Itami killing the soldier and civilian getting his stomach gut, and in EP2 the guy who loses his limbs.

There is a possibility that THAT introduction scene that should happen next episode, will be cut for Blu-Rays. It wouldn't surprise me at least.
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This episode was epically bad-ass! Those Japanese military are hardcore OP with their weapons. 100,000 died without losing one!? Crazily awesome! And what's that, a female character will be introduced next episode? Cant wait!
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Grey-Zone said:
MgMasterOfRivia said:


Well, that would be a reasonable excuse for it but sadly, not even completely scorched bodies that wouldn't need to show anything needing to be censored are shown. Even the characters don't react at all seeing that so many died. They may be soldiers and the ones they killed may be the enemy, but it's rather hard not to get at least some reaction from all that killing unless they'd all be hardcore veterans, which I doubt.

It's more of a problem that the show's making zero effort to show that killing 120k soldiers really isn't a pretty sight, even if there was no other way around it. A necessary evil should be shown as one, not white washed.

Of course, since it's just the 2nd ep, I'll eat my words if GATE proves me that it actually aware of that later on.


You literally see one guy losing two of his limbs. It's just toned down.

It got the feeling they will make 1-2 semi-gory scenes per episode, like in EP1 with Itami killing the soldier and civilian getting his stomach gut, and in EP2 the guy who loses his limbs.

There is a possibility that THAT introduction scene that should happen next episode, will be cut for Blu-Rays. It wouldn't surprise me at least.
I'm planning to buy the bluray just for the gore.
Jul 13, 2015 9:12 AM

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Definitely more political maneuvering than they showed in the manga at the beginning, specifically on the Empire's side.
Makes me ridiculously excited when I remember that the JSDF aren't even using the latest weaponry, and are still boring holes through shields and armor. That and the fact that it's suppose to be 10,000 vs 200,000 odds, and they still beat the crap out of the AOE armies.

Still, the toned down blood and gore took a bit of the fun out of the show. The one commander who managed not to get shot when everything around him was getting mowed down was pretty ridiculous, especially since he was the ONLY one out of the entire army who actually managed to get an attack in. You'd think they would just head-shot him as a safety measure, no?

Considering how they only just found Tuka, it felt like they were going to drag things on a bit, but since Rory shows up next week, I can't be sure....
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Jul 13, 2015 9:43 AM

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I think this starts to get interesting at episode 3 as we start seeing the main characters from the other world acting. So far it's been senseless war.
Jul 13, 2015 12:17 PM

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Great episode, the difference of power during the war is well done, and the part with his waifu was hilarious :).
Jul 13, 2015 12:18 PM

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I didn't expect this to be this good.
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in4 rape scenes become abduction scenes, not that i wouldn't like it, as i'm sensitive to the matter, but it still would be a pretty big change, and with rori and a later character, rape/nudity/slavery has a good point in their first appearance, so that would be weird to watch.
Jul 13, 2015 2:54 PM

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Really good episode. It was a good idea to have a good portion of the episode from the "antagonists" perspective. It gives it a little more weight to see that the people the Japan Army are slaughtering aren't one dimensional twats that only kill for the sake of it. You really get a sense of desperation from the front liners when they attack the Defense Force thinking they have it in the bag, just to get decimated minutes later. What doesn't make sense to me is why they decided it was a good idea to attack Japan in the first place though.

I thought the premise was kinda lame and just a stupid way to put a slight twist on the whole MMORPG game anime boom so A-1 pictures could make more money, but I stand corrected. The different ways that these different people approach this conflict, from the President of USA to the evil king guy, as well as having some really interesting characters (so far, hopefully it stays that way) makes me think this could be AoTS.

And my god, the comedy that the MC brings is priceless. Granted I thought the first episode had better comedy, but this was still on point.
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did you think their scout team has too many sergeants ?


Normally I'd agree with you.

However on a recon mission like this one I can understand the decision to "over rank" the Teams. I even noticed the 4 privates were all Senior Privates. I guess the Commanding General wants to minimize mistakes, especially if all six Teams are staffed the same way.
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UnlimitdLazyWrks said:
The answer to being obliterated is to keep charging in apparently...I liked the differences between the strategies of the two forces. Obviously one is vastly superior thus far. Still has a good balance of comedy between to keep it light at times.


I think the enemy general realized the situation was very desperate, if not downright hopeless. At that point he didn't really have much choice: they couldn't outrun artillery. In death ground, attack.
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Does anyone have an English translation of the lyrics of the OP? I'm really liking that song!
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Jul 13, 2015 3:59 PM

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Nasty humans killing the people like its nothing.Hopefully they got all killed along with the retard MC who the hell know how he became commander.


Uhmmm... they were being attacked..... wtf, lol.

Another complaint about a cliffhanger? ...... wtf, lol.

More complaints about "lack of violence"........ w...t....f..... LOL

This has been good so far, very pleased with it.
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I liked how they went with the stereotype of America wanting to hoard resources lol
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I liked how they went with the stereotype of America wanting to hoard resources lol


America is Japan's default foreign bad guy. Since everyone knows that the US can kick Japan's ass (including the Japanese), they know that we are big enough to take the abuse with good humor. Plus, since we are still occupying them (ahem, protecting them :-), dems the breaks.
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Takuan_Soho said:
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I liked how they went with the stereotype of America wanting to hoard resources lol


America is Japan's default foreign bad guy. Since everyone knows that the US can kick Japan's ass (including the Japanese), they know that we are big enough to take the abuse with good humor. Plus, since we are still occupying them (ahem, protecting them :-), dems the breaks.


US and Japan are now allies. Japan governs itself. Occupation ended a long time ago.
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US and Japan are now allies, and I believe most of the bases the US has there are rented, and about half are for storage for the US Forces in Korea. Japan governs itself.


Tell that to the Okinawans....

Yes I know, I was making a slight joke, hence the :-) symbol.

That said, the Japanese and Koreans do have an edge about this. It galls them to know that they need to have US protection. Both are proud countries, but both also realize that they are smaller countries (and I mean land territory wise mostly (40% of the population of both countries can be taken out with 1-3 nuclear bombs (Seoul and Kanto)), and even if they were to develop nuclear weapons (which both could do easily), it wouldn't benefit either country. So there is a little resentment mixed in as well.
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Understood. They are both good peoples, and tough too. ROK Marines are no one to mess around with, and the JASDF ADA I trained with were sharp.

What I am REALLY liking about this anime is the interaction of the members of Itami's platoon with each other. They are acting like Soldiers. Also, I noticed the soldiers reacting to the gore and bloodshed around them, and that conveys what they are seeing without the need to splash gore all over the screen. A-1 is doing a great job with this show.
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Top_Sergeant said:
What I am REALLY liking about this anime is the interaction of the members of Itami's platoon with each other. They are acting like Soldiers. Also, I noticed the soldiers reacting to the gore and bloodshed around them, and that conveys what they are seeing without the need to splash gore all over the screen. A-1 is doing a great job with this show.


At this point, the Empire has lost five battles in a row - the Ginza incident, the Imperial Army vs the JSDF right after the JSDF came through the gate (not shown, but mentioned), and the three attacks in this round. They haven't tried to negotiate at all.

There's that grim scene where Itami and some others are inspecting the battlefield after the battles. They're not celebrating a victory. They're wondering how much more killing it will take to get the Empire to admit defeat.

Finally, the Emperor is sending Pina to talk, but it seems more like he wants to get rid of her than negotiate.
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Finally, the Emperor is sending Pina to talk, but it seems more like he wants to get rid of her than negotiate.


Actually he send her to Scout, not necessary to talk, but in a sense he don't care much if her lives or die.
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Top_Sergeant said:
What I am REALLY liking about this anime is the interaction of the members of Itami's platoon with each other. They are acting like Soldiers. Also, I noticed the soldiers reacting to the gore and bloodshed around them, and that conveys what they are seeing without the need to splash gore all over the screen. A-1 is doing a great job with this show.


After the first episode I read the entire manga series. It is great. I know people are disappointed by the reduction of gore, but this just shows that A-1 understands where this show is going. Looking forward to it. Happy to see it has 24-25 episodes. It really deserves it.
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After the first episode I read the entire manga series. It is great. I know people are disappointed by the reduction of gore, but this just shows that A-1 understands where this show is going. Looking forward to it. Happy to see it has 24-25 episodes. It really deserves it.


Personally I am enjoying this, Dandelion (because of eppy 2) and Rokka the most this season*. So, yes. It is nice to see at least one of the three shows I am enjoying is getting 2 cours.

But is this adapted from the ongoing manga or the already finished novel? Your post suggests it is adapted from the manga while MAL says it is adapted from the novel. Or is it that the novel and the manga have same story?

*Disclaimer: Shirayuki (mai waifu), Charlotte (Key fag here), and sequels — Working!!!, Non Non Repeat and Durarara!! Ten do not count because I am totally biased.
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The second episode is better than the first :) it does feel like it had a few main genres mixed into one. If they play their cards right then this could be a good series or it could collapse almost immediately.
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shanimebib said:
Takuan_Soho said:
After the first episode I read the entire manga series. It is great. I know people are disappointed by the reduction of gore, but this just shows that A-1 understands where this show is going. Looking forward to it. Happy to see it has 24-25 episodes. It really deserves it.


Personally I am enjoying this, Dandelion (because of eppy 2) and Rokka the most this season*. So, yes. It is nice to see at least one of the three shows I am enjoying is getting 2 cours.

But is this adapted from the ongoing manga or the already finished novel? Your post suggests it is adapted from the manga while MAL says it is adapted from the novel. Or is it that the novel and the manga have same story?

*Disclaimer: Shirayuki (mai waifu), Charlotte (Key fag here), and sequels — Working!!!, Non Non Repeat and Durarara!! Ten do not count because I am totally biased.


They have the same story....some differences but the same story.
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Too often in this kind of anime the middrn military would lose for whatever reasons. This gives huge smile in my face to see those medieval armies getting totaly annihilated.
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Personally I am enjoying this, Dandelion (because of eppy 2) and Rokka the most this season*. So, yes. It is nice to see at least one of the three shows I am enjoying is getting 2 cours.

But is this adapted from the ongoing manga or the already finished novel? Your post suggests it is adapted from the manga while MAL says it is adapted from the novel. Or is it that the novel and the manga have same story?

*Disclaimer: Shirayuki (mai waifu), Charlotte (Key fag here), and sequels — Working!!!, Non Non Repeat and Durarara!! Ten do not count because I am totally biased.


They have the same story....some differences but the same story.


So it can be said that it's been adapted from either? A-1 Pictures, as a studio is a huge gamble for me though. Most of their shows are either very good or absolutely terrible (when they deviate from source material no matter how good the original is). I hope it doesn't become the latter.
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shanimebib said:
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They have the same story....some differences but the same story.


So it can be said that it's been adapted from either? A-1 Pictures, as a studio is a huge gamble for me though. Most of their shows are either very good or absolutely terrible (when they deviate from source material no matter how good the original is). I hope it doesn't become the latter.


Yeah pretty much the same story....They toned down the gore....but it is not censored like Terraformers level or tokyo ghoul.....at the very leas t we are at least getting some of that....so far ...it has been good.
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shanimebib said:
So it can be said that it's been adapted from either?


That is my understanding, though since the manga adapted the novels as well, ultimately everything goes back to the novels. My point above was merely to say that having read the manga after the first episode, I think overdoing the gore at the beginning (which does exist in both) would have turned off some "anime only" fans because they would think this was going to be a hardcore fighting/gore animation. It does have that aspect, but it isn't the only aspect of this series.

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A-1 Pictures, as a studio is a huge gamble for me though. Most of their shows are either very good or absolutely terrible (when they deviate from source material no matter how good the original is). I hope it doesn't become the latter.


Having blasted A-1 in the past, so far I would have to say that they are doing an excellent job adapting things. They added some scenes to give you a better understanding of the MCs personality upfront, which I think was the right decision. They made more explicit some of the politics (I was surprised that they started this episode with 5 minutes of it rather than the battle) that will pay off a little bit down the road.

So they are doing the exact opposite of what they did in SAO. They have made it easy for the viewer only to keep up with what is going on. They really are over the hard part, not to say that they can't screw things up from here, but so far very good.
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Takuan_Soho said:
After the first episode I read the entire manga series. It is great. I know people are disappointed by the reduction of gore, but this just shows that A-1 understands where this show is going. Looking forward to it. Happy to see it has 24-25 episodes. It really deserves it.


After watching this episode I read a bit of manga and I think I prefer the anime. The main reason is better pacing. I don't care about gore.
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Hi can anyone tell me the kingdom's rationale for attacking Japan? And why they are now playing victims? They seem to present no reason for going into modern day Japan and killing regular people...
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So he's into little girls? Great... What exactly did he do in Ginza that had so much impact as to make him considered a "hero" anyways?

The king obviously have some sort of plan, or he's completely mad.

I hope the JDF don't do something stupid like the US did in Western Asia and start giving out modern weaponry to the natives. Granted, they probably don't have a crazy religion like the Muslims do but it still won't be pretty.

Since the physical laws of this fantasy land is different and allows the use of magic and such, wouldn't someone from Earth had thought to try to study and take advantage of that world's resources already? Man, these Japanese needs to start thinking more like the US, no wonder they're so weak. Years of US military sanctions has turned them into a bunch of pussies.
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Hi can anyone tell me the kingdom's rationale for attacking Japan? And why they are now playing victims? They seem to present no reason for going into modern day Japan and killing regular people...


The Empire want to conquer the other side of the gate but they teleported to the wrong place and everything completely turned to FUBAR (F*cked Up Beyond All Recognition).

The 'victims' is actually its allies. The Emperor want to weakened the other kingdoms strength by sending them to their death.

In medieval era, killing civilian is considered legal but today it's a war crime.


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I hope the JDF don't do something stupid like the US did in Western Asia and start giving out modern weaponry to the natives. Granted, they probably don't have a crazy religion like the Muslims do but it still won't be pretty.

Since the physical laws of this fantasy land is different and allows the use of magic and such, wouldn't someone from Earth had thought to try to study and take advantage of that world's resources already? Man, these Japanese needs to start thinking more like the US, no wonder they're so weak. Years of US military sanctions has turned them into a bunch of pussies.


So, what the Japs must do then? Declared another so called 'War on Terrorism' like the 'Muricah did? Invaded the Empire Capital and introduced 'Democracy'? Or bombed a random village which they believed there're the insurgents?

By the way, the US in this anime will be the one who get sanctioned, you'll see.
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USA is always evil in anime. We're always the villains. lmao.
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Mormegil said:
USA is always evil in anime. We're always the villains. lmao.


How about Macross Zero and Muv-Luv Total Eclipse? Their MC are American (Even though half Japanese).

In this series, this is what will happened if the American choose wrong person to become their president. I think USA in anime is not as evil as Russia in video games.
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MrNTR said:
So he's into little girls? Great...


Not particularly. Why do you think otherwise?

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What exactly did he do in Ginza that had so much impact as to make him considered a "hero" anyways?


Convinced the police to open the imperial palace gates to save 10,000 people from being slaughtered. If you need a western equivalent, imagine the gate forming near the US Capitol and the residents fleeing to the White House. Do you think that the Secret Service would just let everyone in for any reason.

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The king obviously have some sort of plan, or he's completely mad.

His plan was stated this episode. After his army lost 60% of its strength he made sure that his allies lost 60% of their strength. He hasn't thought outside of that geopolitical concern.

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I hope the JDF don't do something stupid like the US did in Western Asia and start giving out modern weaponry to the natives. Granted, they probably don't have a crazy religion like the Muslims do but it still won't be pretty.


That wasn't the failure of the US in Iraq. The failure was not to co-opt the Bathist party. Had Bush done that then the invasion would have been a smashing success. The ironic thing is that Bush's failure wasn't his desire to be a dictator, but rather his naive idealism.

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Since the physical laws of this fantasy land is different and allows the use of magic and such, wouldn't someone from Earth had thought to try to study and take advantage of that world's resources already? Man, these Japanese needs to start thinking more like the US, no wonder they're so weak. Years of US military sanctions has turned them into a bunch of pussies.


Uhm, if the laws are different, it would take years to understand them. Japan has only had access to the gate for 3 months. You are overestimating the ability of science to deal with the unknown.
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this series, this is what will happened if the American choose wrong person to become their president.


It would make no difference. The Japanese really see no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. They use the US as the generic "bad guy" because it is easier than using China (which has far more attention in the manga).

Seriously, people who try to score political points off an animation are idiots. No, idiots have more common sense. They are the pond scum that a cheap strainer can skim off the top of a pool.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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