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| 5/5 Jesus that plot twist with humans as dragons. Dont know what to add, just mind blown and cant wait for the next episode with NORMAS striking back. |
| Welp, it looks like Ange and the gang can stop fighting dragons now, and fight back against the real enemy. I've been waiting for this moment! |
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| ANd the show continues to impress me. I saw the plot twist coming from a mile away, but to see it revealed in that way was still pretty shocking. Looks like its Norma Vs Mana Humans next episode. YAY VIVI LIVED! I had a death flag on her since she first appeared... |
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| Didnt see that coming, Im so focused on naked jill.. |
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| Oh shit, Jill is Alektra and just like Ange she is also a princess being cast off for being a norma, Vivian is a Dragon. so how the fuck can those norma be a dragon? |
Tres_Bandidas said: Oh shit, Jill is Alektra and just like Ange she is also a princess being cast off for being a norma, Vivian is a Dragon. so how the fuck can those norma be a dragon? I'm thinking the people on the other side use the dragons as weapons just like Ange's side uses the Norma. |
ninjastarforcex said: Dark_Messiah said: jill > najendaDidnt see that coming, Im so focused on naked jill.. +1 |
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| So glad Vivian wasn't killed! She's top girl for sure Things are definitely getting interesting though. We've just hit the halfway point so can't wait to see where it goes from here. |
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| His name is Embryo? Seriously? Ange's brother is being used by everyone! First by that Dragon that transforms into human (or maybe she is a human that transforms into a Dragon?), and now by "God". I wonder what Embryo is doing. I don't think his plan is just "Kill every Norma! Let's think what we do about the Dragons later!" |
| The story of how the world of Cross Ange came to be sounded very similar to the way another certain Sunrise anime about a young exiled prince, or is that just me? |
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| So the main bad guy's name is Embryo? Come on... give me a break. Other than that, glad Vivian lived. I was afraid they were going to kill her off for a second. As for next episode, it would be cool if Julio finally dies. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
ninjastarforcex said: guys pls rate cross ange 10/10 for AOTY 2014 I nominate it for Anime of the Existence. Seriously, I am really interested. Few series/books/movies made me feel excited about what will happen. |
| And with this episode, all the characters have been introduced. Of all the things.... Embryo. Just because he created Mana and stuff? Oh, and that plot twist is crazy, but i'm not surprised since i watched Gargantia lol. WHERE IS THE BLU-RAY SO THERE'S NO CENSORS. |
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| Interesting huh... So the Norma eventually turn into a DRAGON? can't wait for the next ep. Embryo's voice sounds familiar for some reason... |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
| Getting a little tired of seeing this plot twist. Let's hope this one has at least some depth to it. |
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| Not sure how I feel about this Embryo guy being "god" and all but whatever, just the usual Cross Ange stuff. But I liked the plot twist about DRAGONs. |
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| this episode too slow i play in 1.4 speed mode >____> but at-least it's revealed importance info ;). So it's war on nxt episode? |
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| Oh crap, humans as dragons. So many questions, so little answers... |
| Embryo looks very interesting :P And we learn more about dragons, and that world in general.. And, Jill is Alektra. Thought so. x_____X They looked too similar x) It was an entertaining episode. I liked it ^^ |
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| I'm just glad Vivian didn't die. She's one of my favorite characters despite the fact that she hasn't been developed too much. So I was afraid they were going to kill her off. So they have actually started explaining the world. I guess Tusk is a descendant from the Ancient People in the time before Mana. I still wonder how Sala ties into all this. But, yeah this show is a good one, and I'm sad it got so much hate in the beginning. |
altux said: Actually confused about DRAGONS. Who turn into DRAGONS? Norma, old humanity or mana users. That's because Riza the chief at Julio's side seems to be high level DRAGONS. Maybe the Norma are just the ...how do I name it, the pawn class while the mana users are the Boss class, the big ones. It still doesn't explain why DRAGONS(the big ones) are brought by helicopters after their defeat. And...this show really has too much plot. Last episode we got paramail and another human from the other dimension, but then rather then explaining it, we got something new this episode. lol, earlier episode ppl complaining about "plot". now they complaining about the real plot. you want them to explain all of it to you immidiately? g-reco has the same problem. most of viewers are not patience enough and demand the plot to be explained immidiately |
| Okay, so now we have four factions: Old Humans, New Humans, Norma and dat Embryo. I'm assuming the Old Humans are pretty much male soldiers like Tusk. Norma can't control New Human machines, but the Princesses and their flashy rings and Royal Bloodline are the exception. Normal can turn into Dragons at any time, I'm guessing this is why those Royal families are so scared of them. At least until we had Dr. Embryo messing shit up. I have one issue though, if that Dragon lady was seducing Julio, does that mean he's actually on Ange's side? I doubt that Dragon lady was working for Embryo. |
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| OMG! So people turn into DRAGONS?! I did not see that coming! So Jill was also a princess, just like Ange, that's why she tried to help her to fight. Now the they are going there to kill everyone, can't wait for more. Really this show just get better! |
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| With all these crazy twists going, I can only expect two things. That portal has some sort of time travel and more fanservice. |
| Welp I actually thought that Vivian was gonna be killed as a DRAGON...good thing she lived. As a character she's a little annoying but pretty fun at the same time. Lots of reveals this episode. So that Embryo dude is like a hologram and he actually created mana. And the DRAGONs are humans!!! But I'm kinda confused: how do they turn from humans to DRAGONs in the first place?? Vivian just woke up as a DRAGON so I dunno. |
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| You know how the story goes. "The monster was human all along." It kind of felt like Jill was addressing us viewers rather than the girls when she said that, or both anyway. Also loved Ange's refusal to join Libertus, followed by the her "Go to hell bitch". She'll probably still do it, maybe out of a lack of reasonable options right now, but I see her doing it grudgingly as it's not in her nature to succumb to others. Loved Ange's refusal to join Libertus, followed by the her "Go to hell bitch!" towards Jill. She'll probably still do it, maybe out of a lack of reasonable options right now, but I see her doing it grudgingly as it's not in her nature to succumb to others. Or well, at least that's what I'm hoping because as much as I like this show, some moral gray lines with Angelise-sama in the middle of it all would be just what the doctor ordered to elevate it even further. |
| ok, after seeing that messed up twist, this makes me feel like i'm in Attack on Titan again. :/ |
| Not sure how I feel about this twist. Either way, the same questions remain, but now there's more of a wtf factor involved. |
| Is it next week yet! |
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| The twist was stupid. They put it there as some horrendous "plot twist" because the fact that it involves humans. Also, really, someone named "Embryo"? Wow, such boring exposition. They can't make boring exposition, so let's just have the characters naked! Please...stop with the singing now. Don't ruin Mizuki Nana's voice this way; she deserves better music to sing to. |
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| The twist left me a bit cold to be honest. I thought the Embryo character was a bit too over the top for my liking, but it is Cross Ange so it will have to do. |
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| I have to say that i liked where this was going till the final part where the so called relieve fleet showed up. Then again we knew Julio was planning something at the start. The question is how are the girls going to defend themselves from Julio's fleet since it's obvious the fleet isn't here to rescue them. Maybe they might be interrupted by a DRAGON attack? And now on to the next bit. It's finally explained how this society and it's hatred against Norma in this world has developed. So it was a way of control after all, keeping an ethnic minority in the world to hate so that the mana introduced society would not hate each other. And that way they won't cause a revolt or a war. From that perspective it's doubtful that Embryo/god would let the Norma be wiped out by Julio since that would mean his scapegoat would disappear. We should also look at the fact that a new bad character was introduced suggesting that Julio's end might be near. It's clear Julio is easily manipulated and his hatred only makes it worse, my guess is he is just a sacrificial pawn by Embryo/god on order to create his new world. Now on to the DRAGONS. It's clear now why the girl last week called people from Ange's world a fake society. But what i am wondering about most right now since DRAGONS turn out to be humans how do these people turn into DRAGONS? And who exactly are these people? Right now we know about two people that turned into DRAGONS Vivian and Julio's advisor/guard. Which brings me to the following question has anyone seen the Advisor using Mana? I have not seen her use it which suggests she is either an Ancient or a Norma, since it's also clear that she was manipulating Julio. This suggests that the DRAGONS are Ancients and Norma but they could also be mana users. What is clear is that they form a threat to the fake society created by Embryo/God and that they want them out of the way. |
Nanet said: The twist was stupid. They put it there as some horrendous "plot twist" because the fact that it involves humans. Also, really, someone named "Embryo"? Wow, such boring exposition. They can't make boring exposition, so let's just have the characters naked! Please...stop with the singing now. Don't ruin Mizuki Nana's voice this way; she deserves better music to sing to. If you hate why do you keep coming here? Most of your complains do not make sense. |
ninjastarforcex said: ninjastarforcex said: completionistnot dropping shows 'for the sake of discussion' Because Mizuki Nana is fucking in the cast, that's why I suffer. |
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| Epic episode, this is only able to re-raise the series until the end. Drawings scarce, but instead the rest is great. During the narration we were presented the steps already seen in other stories, but these twists impacted in a positive way in the general plot of the TV series. Another point to mention in this episode, is another step forward made by Angelise in his characterization. I can not wait to see the next episode. In the end I want the BD! |
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-Resident- said: The second half of the episode was filled with brilliant indirect comedy scenes. This anime almost never ceases to amaze me in that aspect. Sadly, I don't think I can tolerate this or expect anything from it any further. The animation quality also dropped like it's nobody's business, and the amazing "plot" thickens. Them horrid derpfaces and stillshots. Should've settled for a single cour if the budget is obviously tight. They could've cut out soo many useless parts and delivered the "plot" in a single cour. I feel kind of sad, as how they wasted Mizuki Nana's vocals on this, and soon-to-be Takahashi Yoko's in the upcoming OP for the second cour. That second OP was the main driving force for me, but I guess I'll listen to it on YouTube or something. Jaridan said: and the trainwreck continues at full speed. Logic be damned if any episode ever makes coherent sense and uses logic. It's a show about naked shiks riding giant mechs killing giant monsters plus gore/sex/violence and really really damaged personalities (every emo/violent teen age pedo's dream ) so LOL ... what did you expect ?? :") |
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| So much information coming in Theories are being made What is this? What is that? All questions, just waiting to be answered Vivi is a dragon didn't see that coming So all these dragon killed were actually human Then what is the other Princess's role(Horie Yui's chara) So 2 princesses in different dimension that are alternate to each other? |
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| Soylent green is people. |
| damnation is it true episode 13 will be delayed because holiday to 3rd january? |
| Yes, it's delayed. No episode this week. |
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