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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Welp and the action is in full force again, cool. The action was pretty intense and I'm glad to see Argevollen back too with Tokimune. Why so much yelling though? D: Anyways, I think he did well in that fight especially with that sword of his. |
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| I think it's pretty obvious that Suzushiro likes Samonji? It seems she was in love with him since Tokimune's sister days. |
| Kind of painful to listen to the scream war. Wonder how it was when they voiced that. Other than that, good episode imo, and that ending :o |
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| damn 4 replies. this show as fallen pretty far |
| New op new osts. Pretty intense imo. Awsome fight scene but seriously stop screaming in my ears. |
| Jesus can walk on water. Cucumbers are 96% water. I can walk on cucumbers. I'm 96% Jesus. |
| Memory loss like Valvrave? |
| Judging from the cliff-hanger Tokimune probably suffered more then it appears. Makes me wonder when we will see him pilot again, same question could be asked for Richthoven. I am still wondering about the plot and how much the leaders of both armies actually know. From the looks of it Argevolen is out for now but there is still a lot that could happen. |
| More Baka! Baka! Baka! and more SCREAMING. OP was ok but a lot of intense action going on during this episode. Epic sunrise setting for a fight scene |
| mods are cucks |
| New op, I approve. Has the Argevollen returned to the rest of the force by itself, with Tokimune knocked-out in the cockpit? |
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| That traitorous general at the beginning made m rage big time with his blackmail of the Captain. And for a moment I was afraid that Tokimune was going to step on Jaime or something like that. I wonder how much it's Argevolllen that's controlling him now instead of the other way around. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| THEY CHANGED THE OPENING SONG? HOW COULD THEY ): Seriously that was half the reason why i didn't drop it after the first few eps. Awh man... o well at least this episode was good. Finally getting full on action oriented episodes. Still wanted Richthofen to kick his ass but I guess that's asking for too much. Also I don't really care much for Jamie and Tokimune's relationship, I want more of this cutie.  |
The best anime is the Road to El Dorado |
| Pretty intense. The new opening is actually pretty good! And damn Tokimune's sister was extremely cute ha. At the end it looks like maybe Tokimune lost control? He's not answering and for some reason they weren't showing anything. |
StormBoiOct 30, 2014 2:09 PM
| Why I got the idea that Tokimune was brain-dead or something with that cliffhanger? Well that next Episode Title implies something? "Farewell" huh? Of Tokimune? |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
Marzan said: That traitorous general at the beginning made m rage big time with his blackmail of the Captain. And for a moment I was afraid that Tokimune was going to step on Jaime or something like that. I wonder how much it's Argevolllen that's controlling him now instead of the other way around. Basically this ^ I was pretty angry at that too. And I also thought Tokimune was going to step on her.. Quite intense. |
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| I'm wondering how bad the side effects are gonna be for Tokimune after piloting the Argevollen again. Decent episode the fight was pretty good and Tokimune finally managed to win. |
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SandyBoi said: Marzan said: And for a moment I was afraid that Tokimune was going to step on Jaime or something like that. I wonder how much it's Argevolllen that's controlling him now instead of the other way around. Basically this ^ I was pretty angry at that too. And I also thought Tokimune was going to step on her.. Quite intense. Just stepping Jamie? I was actually thinking that Tokimune would slash Jamie because he turned insane. LiquidGold said: I'm wondering how bad the side effects are gonna be for Tokimune after piloting the Argevollen again. Maybe he would die? [spoiler]   |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| Good episode, really like how this anime shows the war Tokimune has returned to pilot the Argevollen, he barely remained an episode away But it seems that something happened after he beat the enemy, it was not shown more his face, only the dim interior of Argevollen and the title of the next episode is also very suggestive .. I liked this new OP, but surprised the change at this point of the anime phrase of the new OP: 'To Tokimune I still have some words I couldn't tell you' |
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| Brigadier General Cayenne confirmed conspiring bitch & Suguro is his side bitch. I'm still not sure why the hell Namie was sent to this unit? She's so incompetent, it's cringeworthy! >.< Rather if she dies, that would lessen the burdens on the others. That "BAKA" talk though.. Jamie, you can't be a tsunere, I'm afraid. XD Battle between the new models wasn't as exciting. Those roaring are seriously annoying.. >.< At least, Tokimune managed to redeem himself after 16 episodes. Though, I wonder if his personality will have completely changed now. Average episode. So, this is the end for Richthofen? Damn, I had high hopes for the guy.. |
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| Wow, that was quite intense fight. Tokimune and Richtofen's VA must be tired from that shouting lol. I doubt Tokimune is going to die soon, this is only ep 17. Pretty sure he's knocked out, but then it means that Argevollen go back itself? O.o |
"All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous"  PROJECT-ERASER |
| really good episode, i liked how they depicted tokimune accepting the dangers of his actions on his body in order to protect the members of the squad, thought it was kind of a huge foreshadow for tragedy to come, kind of worried what may have happened to him at the episodes end cause something bad definitely did |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| ^Seriously, the foreshadowing made that cliffhanger even more torturous. My god. This was such a good episode, the tenseness before and throughout the battle was just brought about with brilliant direction and OST. The Scream 2.0 Rematch did such a good job conveying the two pilot's state of mind, just exuded the testosterone madness brought on by the linkage depth. It's crazy that Richthofen has literally reached the same level as Tokimune that he's already 'seeing someone'. But again, Tokimune shows he has the stronger mind in overcoming the berserker onsets. I really like how they did that, was a very 'bright' and sensible albeit cliche way to conclude the battle and Tokimune's struggle with the takeover. But then that fucking ending, man. That cliffhanger honestly had me wiggin the fuck out. The unease brought on by Jamie crying out while showing an immobile Tokimune, not to mention Samonji. Did he say he 'lost' because he knows Tokimune's fate to some extent, because he stood by and let it happen again, or more simply because he played right into Cayenne's hands? Also wtf was up with that note at the end of the OP? "I still have some words I couldn't tell you"... Shaniyaz said: If you really think he is just now redeeming himself for his actions in the first few episodes, you haven't been paying a shred of attention to his character. Makes it seem like you aren't even remotely invested in the show and its MC's development. At least, Tokimune managed to redeem himself after 16 episodes. tiya_n said: Tokimune and Richtofen's VA must be tired from that shouting lol. > Sawamura Eijun's VA >tired from shouting >lol nope |
AlexTheRiotOct 30, 2014 9:15 PM
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| More Kotoko songs is always welcome. WHY THE HECK TOKIMUNE IS UNCONSCIOUS AT THE END? |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
Shaniyaz said: I'm still not sure why the hell Namie was sent to this unit? She's so incompetent, it's cringeworthy! >.< Rather if she dies, that would lessen the burdens on the others. She actually didn't do that badly against the squadron of escort Kriegers that were accompanying Richthofen. As I made it, she destroyed at least three of them and kept them from rushing the retreating convoy. She also bought enough time for Arge to appear and for the other two mech to arrive and help her finish the job. True enough it would have been a different story if Richthofen had engaged her, but he only had eyes for Argevollen. She's still relatively inexperienced in actual combat but she's definitely improving. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| Oh man...that dark cockpit. That CAN'T be good. Cool fightscene, i like how he was able to pull himself back from the beserk mode. BUT WHAT HAPPNED NEXT?! UGHHH |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
AvariceForlorn said: I hate to say it but I'm just watching this garbage show just cause I would like to see it improve but its so boring I fall asleep to it, tokimune's characteristics and looks are just like a regular side characters that its so bad and captn samonji and the other girl in charge are annoying af. Pokemon xyz is probably god damn better than this show. This show is bad as glasslip and Nagi no Asukara. The mechas look like doo doo aswell. This show is not a big shounen battle fest with a Gary Stu MC kun and a dubstep soundtrack. It’s trying to be more subtle than that and it takes it’s time developing its characters (and action scenes too for that matter). I honestly don’t think you can expect it to change into what you want it to be, so you’d be best served by dropping it. |
| Epic fights are epic. I wish Richthofen and Tokimune got to know each other's faces though. Looks like Richthofen went completely crazy, while Tokimune was able to hold onto his sanity long enough to win the fight, but the aftermath for him looks all kinds of grim as wel with that darkened cockpit... |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| oh he won finally |
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| Well then , nice to see Tokimune back on the Trail Kierger. Oh dat Gen and Arms deal guy, whose side they're on anyways? |
| Namie single-handedly achieved more than Samonji's squad does as a whole. I mean, she took out at least 3 enemy trail kriegers, out of 6 or so, while being completely on her own. And that is without real combat experience. At this rate, in a few years, she can take out an entire enemy army - without cheap toys like Argevollen. I mean, just look at how badly Silfy and Lorenz did against the Trail Kriegers advancing through that ravine, two at a time. We saw like one fall down tops. Add in the support by machine guns and rocket launchers, and thats really bad. Previous episodes it was just as bad. Namie should get promoted by at least two ranks and receive the highest valor related medal Arandas has. Especially how she wasn't even directly ordered to intercept them, and that she knew that the Sturm Alpha was there, too. She basically headed to sure death, and instead took out three enemies without ever getting hit. How's that incompetent? She most likely would have defeated the rest, too - after all, there were less of them now. Regarding Tokimune vs Richthofen: Really nice fight. The screaming is a pain to hear, but it serves it's purpose. |
| Damn, big drama incoming next episode. |
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| BAKA BAKA BAKA omg fucking shut up dat shouting tho AvariceForlorn said: I hate to say it but I'm just watching this garbage show just cause I would like to see it improve but its so boring I fall asleep to it, tokimune's characteristics and looks are just like a regular side characters that its so bad and captn samonji and the other girl in charge are annoying af. Pokemon xyz is probably god damn better than this show. This show is bad as glasslip and Nagi no Asukara. The mechas look like doo doo aswell. I agree, but Nagi no Asukara is far from bad lmao AlexTheRiot said: tiya_n said: Tokimune and Richtofen's VA must be tired from that shouting lol. > Sawamura Eijun's VA >tired from shouting >lol nope LOL |
SweetCoconut said: WHY THE HECK TOKIMUNE IS UNCONSCIOUS AT THE END? him being unconscious is the best case scenario in this situation. i just noticed this in the opening http://i.imgur.com/TLtiBQn.png hes probably gonna die what the hell happened in this show, since when did i actually give a shit for tokimune's saftey, why am i eagerly awaiting next episode? |
JizzyHitlerNov 1, 2014 6:21 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| All that screaming and that cliffhanger of an ending are both so unbearable. My first thought was that Tokimune's mind became a part of Argevollen leaving his body dead, but now after reading this thread I'm worried he is fully dead. Great. |
| RIP Tokimune. |
Noffy said: I feel like they wouldnt off their MC and then leave their fate ambiguous until the next episode, im predicting a comatosed tokimune but also a fatally wounded one, not in the literal sense but rather in the thought process that at the rate the show is going he will very likely die in the final act of the showbut now after reading this thread I'm worried he is fully dead. Great. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
mayukachan said: BAKA BAKA BAKA omg fucking shut up yeah, i know. Jamie angers me even more too with that line. -_- Shaniyaz said: I'm still not sure why the hell Namie was sent to this unit? She's so incompetent, it's cringeworthy! >.< Rather if she dies, that would lessen the burdens on the others. Funny, I was thinking the same thing about Jamie, and still BEGGING for something like that to happen to her. |
starwarriorrobbyNov 6, 2014 3:42 AM
Rayzer said: SandyBoi said: Basically this ^ I was pretty angry at that too. And I also thought Tokimune was going to step on her.. Quite intense. Just stepping Jamie? I was actually thinking that Tokimune would slash Jamie because he turned insane. Oh, I'd enjoy seeing either one of those happening to her so many times over. ;) |
| 4/5 The air that you breathe during battle is good, not amazing because of the script quite enough, but much of the credit goes to the OST instead, that it is great. The plot is finally starting to be deciphered, but already much had already figured even assuming the possible scenarios; I wonder if there will be more twists and turns, I hope so. Drawings always ugly and low quality, appearance strongly BD to see me all the TV series. Animations in the media, even the CG did not shine much. The final scene with the Argevollen return from the battlefield, it reminded me quite a scene to view the anime Muv-Luv! I'm curious to know what happened to Tokimune. The new opening is not bad, I just have to make us used to it, no longer hear the sound: Wooo Wooo Wooo... |
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| Loving how in the flashback montage Toke had one of the key people in his life was the enemy pilot, now I'm pretty sure the only time Tokimune knows that he has encountered him was a casual walk through a city that time. Must have led a real boring life before joining the army. |
| Ugh Jamie shut your mouth Pretty intense fight and I loved the sunrise at the background it had something stylish I wonder what happened to Susumu after the the battle ended |
הלב שלי כבר מת |
| That new OP is good.. things are really heating up here. The sunrise background was really beautiful and a great plus to the battle scene. Such an awesome fight, simple but nonetheless reached out to me. I'm starting to like that dog fight howl hahaha. |
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