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Laurine_Andersen said: The thing here is that SHE WASN'T thinking "Oh maybe he's injured", she was sure he was cheating on her, and she acted based on that. She messaged him 63 times because she was thinking "I'm sure he's with Linda", and she even thought he was with Nana. I'm sorry but it's not the same, she's crazy. "are you ok?" "has your injury worsened?" "did you get in an accident?" "i'm going to the police." yes, because when I think a girl is cheating on me, I automatically go to the police. [/sarcasm] |
| "Let's make a miracle happen using the power of friendship." "If that was all it took, there'd be no need for training arcs!" "Normal rabbits don't carry guns!" |
| I really think I'll just quit this anime... Can't stand Tada x Kaga!! The way Linda is being left behind it's way too painful to watch. In fact I said it before and will say it again.... I don't like demented Kaga!! I'm all for Tada x Linda but if that won't happen (since Linda is a support character, unlike Kaga who is a Main Character) then I refuse to feel bad by watching this show roll over some past experiences... By the way the ships I stand for are this: - "Loving" Linda x "Full Memory" Tada, - "Laid Back" Yana x "Demented" Kaga, - eventually "2D" Satou x "Ultrasonic" Oka Edit: typo correction |
DarkMoonWolfDec 19, 2013 7:27 PM
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| The bitch slap was just ouch. But he definitely deserved for the things he is doing. Banri better get his shit together or everyone will be unhappy. |
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| See what you did Kaga, you ruined everything |
| Linda and Banri posing was hottttt. Oh Kouko I cried ;_; Ah man poor Linda, too. Preview made me laugh so hard. |
"Komugi, are you there?" |
| Disregard bitchy clingy stalker bitch, acquire sexy cute fun osananajimi |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
Kentaku said: See what you did Kaga, you ruined everything Explain. |
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wheresthehandle said: Disregard bitchy clingy stalker bitch, acquire sexy cute fun osananajimi Linda isn't a childhood friend you dimwit. |
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wheresthehandle said: Disregard bitchy clingy stalker bitch, acquire sexy cute fun osananajimi I like how you say the same thing every episode. And yes, she's not even a childhood friend. |
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| I read the messages. But even if she wrote that, does that mean she was honest? Like, would you send a message saying: Hey are you with another girl? She's been suspicious since she found out the photo but as she herself admitted she wanted to be a "Good girlfriend" so she of course wouldn't send a message like that, but she was thinking it, it was pretty much obvious. I don't need to be a mind reader, there's been enough foreshadowing. |
| Well, I find it good that Kouko enrages so many people - that means as a character she succeeds to provoke many viewers to have an emotional reaction. This is a story about relationships between messed up characters and how they'll overcome it, each one of them in it's own way. The point of the story is that. Take for instance Linda. She is the least honest of them all. While Kouko during this 12 episodes, had multiple times clearly stated what her emotions were, even Banri did in the end with his last big secret, the only character so far that is not telling the whole truth is Linda. Does she love Banri ? WTH are her feelings towards him? Guilt? Romantic love? Friendship? Pity? Taking care of a lost puppy? Maybe all of them mixed together? It's interesting how the shippers never mention that. If you are bothered by the obsessive nature of Kouko (many times rightfully so - even though she is perfectly aware about it and wants to change, but often failed to do so) why not mention the Linda's dishonesty and pretend how it's somehow better? Don't get me wrong I don't think she is not a likeable character and, in her essence, a very good person , but she has severe issues with expressing her emotions. Paradoxically, in this state, she is the least mature character on the inside and the one that makes Banri look like having a spine made of aircraft grade Titanium alloys. I hope that she will overcome it in the future and start telling the truth, for her sake. |
| Cemeteries are full of past winners. Hypocrisy is about being your own marketing department. |
| Koko just becomes intense about everything so ofc she sent 63 messages and looked around for him. She is also emotionally dependent on others so yea she forgave him because she needs him basically. He is also a huge idiot but a lot of this could have been avoided if she didn't try to forbid him to do things like get a job. Basically they are both train wrecks emotionally and probably shouldn't even be in relationships right now until they work through some of their own problems. |
lijenstina said: Well, I find it good that Kouko enrages so many people - that means as a character she succeeds to provoke many viewers to have an emotional reaction. This is a story about relationships between messed up characters and how they'll overcome it, each one of them in it's own way. The point of the story is that. Take for instance Linda. She is the least honest of them all. While Kouko during this 12 episodes, had multiple times clearly stated what her emotions were, even Banri did in the end with his last big secret, the only character so far that is not telling the whole truth is Linda. Does she love Banri ? WTH are her feelings towards him? Guilt? Romantic love? Friendship? Pity? Taking care of a lost puppy? Maybe all of them mixed together? It's interesting how the shippers never mention that. If you are bothered by the obsessive nature of Kouko (many times rightfully so - even though she is perfectly aware about it and wants to change, but often failed to do so) why not mention the Linda's dishonesty and pretend how it's somehow better? Don't get me wrong I don't think she is not a likeable character and, in her essence, a very good person , but she has severe issues with expressing her emotions. Paradoxically, in this state, she is the least mature character on the inside and the one that makes Banri look like having a spine made of aircraft grade Titanium alloys. I hope that she will overcome it in the future and start telling the truth, for her sake. Watch it be the opposite of Toradora and her character is a huge troll by the writer and she has 0 interest in him and was just made to look like she might. Kouko I think is supposed to be likeable and imo they have been failing the last couple episodes because they go too far with her bad qualities and when they try to polish her character off with good stuff it comes off lamely and this is why people don't like her. No one knows what Linda is thinking because she is a side character and doesn't get any inner monologues or anything that shows her feelings. All we see is others perspectives of her and going off from what we have seen all she has shown is that she wants to be his friend and support him with some hints that possibly could suggest otherwise. Its too early to tell at this point but to say she is the most immature character is not really accurate at all. |
| throughout this episode, i was struggling to decide whether koko was adorable or dumb for staying with a guy that doesn't love her 100% and lied to her. but looking at the ending scene, she is a precious girl and just doesn't want to get hurt again. she's adorable :( and i like linda fine, but she herself hasn't been honest since the beginning when banri confessed to her in high school many times. and even now she has the opportunity to tell the truth and she still doesn't. both her and banri are liars >:( wonder what else could happen with this odd love triangle. (i hope linda stays away but i doubt that will happen) |
Aerensianic said: No one knows what Linda is thinking because she is a side character and doesn't get any inner monologues or anything that shows her feelings. All we see is others perspectives of her and going off from what we have seen all she has shown is that she wants to be his friend and support him with some hints that possibly could suggest otherwise. Its too early to tell at this point but to say she is the most immature character is not really accurate at all. She is. The last scene says it clearly. And failure of making Kouko character more likeable is dew to the anime adaptation. Manga is much better. If it is related to that I can understand it, because it is my exact sentiment about it. |
lijenstinaDec 19, 2013 8:13 PM
| Cemeteries are full of past winners. Hypocrisy is about being your own marketing department. |
| Even if Linda does love Banri, calling her out because she doesn't tell him saying "shes a liar or she is immature" is stupid. She obviously has a lot of awareness of the situation and wants to keep Banri stable. How would telling him she loves him do ANY good? If she did people would just call her selfish instead. She is doing the adult thing here and she keeps getting crap about it from people. She will only be deserving of criticism if she flips from her current behavior to trying to pursue him. |
| Koko: "Hey, Banri, what did the five fingers say to the face?" Banri: "What?" *SLAP!!!* Honestly, he got what he deserved for tiptoeing and not being straight forward with his GF. You wanna work? Then work! And tell her that you will and you don't care if she says no!! Well at least he came out clear and doesn't keep any more secrets from Koko. And their relationship deepened; finally they call each other by first names! PS: Mitsuo found his true calling as a stripper :) |
Tengoku_no_hakaiDec 19, 2013 8:33 PM
bastek66 said: cement can be broken.DreamPoint said: Watching that episode pissed me off. This is probably because I want Tada Banri to be with Linda. Drop it. This will never happen, this episode pretty much cemented it. |
| Lol strong wtf "I'm calling the police". Chill out Kouko. I hated the ending to this episode when Linda tore up their picture |
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| Jealous, crazy and possessive girlfriend Koko gave Banri the b*tch slap!! I'm half-half on the idea of him putting distance between him and Linda. I think its partly good and bad. He's trying to get rid of his feelings for Linda for his current girlfriend but he's also erasing his friendship and past memories. He's trying to be a better boyfriend (which is good) but in the expense of having to cut ties with his friend (which is bad). I guess for him, the girlfriend weighs more than childhood friendship. I know Linda is doing what's best for Banri. Koko is doing what's best for her. And Banri is doing what's best for his relationship with Koko. I think I'm being pulled in by Linda again. |
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| Dick move by Banri to Linda at the end. How the hell did Koko find or arrive at a random ass venue? Coincidental? If it is then lol. (Unless the fellow party goers that were taking photos have something to do with it). |
| This episode actually converted me from a Banri x Linda supporter to a Banri x Koko supporter. She can be kind of cute. |
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MCAL said: lijenstina said: You don't know that anymore, since the anime is way ahead of the manga now... And neither do I of course.And failure of making Kouko character more likeable is dew to the anime adaptation. Manga is much better. Maybe I wasn't clear enough, so I apologize. The anime failed at establishing her character in the beginning properly and the fallout of it is still present. Aerensianic said: Even if Linda does love Banri, calling her out because she doesn't tell him saying "shes a liar or she is immature" is stupid. She obviously has a lot of awareness of the situation and wants to keep Banri stable. How would telling him she loves him do ANY good? If she did people would just call her selfish instead. She is doing the adult thing here and she keeps getting crap about it from people. She will only be deserving of criticism if she flips from her current behavior to trying to pursue him. The thing is she was also like that in high school before Banri's accident. The flashback to that time shows a clear parallel to it. So it's not just her concern about how it would affect Banri in his current state (that, I agree, does exist to an extent). But that is not the main reason. There is a much deeper issue with her not being capable of expressing what she really feels. The truth is always ugly and being honest will hurt others, that's a given. Don't get me wrong, I like her as a flawed character. But pointing out to her shortcomings is also legitimate. |
| Cemeteries are full of past winners. Hypocrisy is about being your own marketing department. |
| I don't know anymore for whom I should support. So much feels in one episode >_< |
Compl3te said: bastek66 said: cement can be broken.DreamPoint said: Watching that episode pissed me off. This is probably because I want Tada Banri to be with Linda. Drop it. This will never happen, this episode pretty much cemented it. They don't have any romantic development, continue delude yourself if you really want it. |
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| So far this anime isn't dramatic nor bold enough... They needed to have something extreme like Banri sleeping with Linda and getting caught. That sort of thing. Whatever, it's still enjoyable to watch. |
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| nice episode poor Linda-senpai sayonara Past-Banri XD |
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lijenstina said: MCAL said: lijenstina said: You don't know that anymore, since the anime is way ahead of the manga now... And neither do I of course.And failure of making Kouko character more likeable is dew to the anime adaptation. Manga is much better. Maybe I wasn't clear enough, so I apologize. The anime failed at establishing her character in the beginning properly and the fallout of it is still present. Aerensianic said: Even if Linda does love Banri, calling her out because she doesn't tell him saying "shes a liar or she is immature" is stupid. She obviously has a lot of awareness of the situation and wants to keep Banri stable. How would telling him she loves him do ANY good? If she did people would just call her selfish instead. She is doing the adult thing here and she keeps getting crap about it from people. She will only be deserving of criticism if she flips from her current behavior to trying to pursue him. The thing is she was also like that in high school before Banri's accident. The flashback to that time shows a clear parallel to it. So it's not just her concern about how it would affect Banri in his current state (that, I agree, does exist to an extent). But that is not the main reason. There is a much deeper issue with her not being capable of expressing what she really feels. The truth is always ugly and being honest will hurt others, that's a given. Don't get me wrong, I like her as a flawed character. But pointing out to her shortcomings is also legitimate. That's fine doing that, but the kaga supporters are making her out to be some cunning, evil, lying, and also immature temptress who is trying to steal Banri away when that clearly isn't the case. She is suppressing her feelings for the good of Banri. Not to say the Linda supporters are that much better. |
| Personally I don't like how Banri is going with his relationship. As the show goes it has been a roller coaster that has been amazing. I don't like that attitude of Banri really annoys me. He is being very dishonest with himself. Also I really want to cry and punch the screen when Linda tore apart the picture. I mean c'mon those are your memories and nobody should tell you what to forget or not. It's part of life. But it has been the best drama-romantic show I have seen in a while. |
| Koko's semi breakdown seemed a bit out of place for some odd reason. Now that that's out of the way... Koko is very much overbearing and her waiting on banri to tell her about the picture is every much her fault as it is banri's. Banri knew she had the picture and she knew that he noticed it was gone. But because she waited for him to tell her put pressure on banri that made up this whole mess of an episode(save banri + glowstick x linda). Well drama wise anyway. Of course many would make the statement that it's overall banri screwing things up and to that end I'll agree. If he didn't lie about every little thing and just let things go all may of been well, but who's to say. Koko also needs to try a little harder to not control all of banri's life. I mean they love one another to share that experience not have it be one sided. |
| "A cruel world is not without it's beauty, and many times a select few find it by mistake. Only then do those select few see the world for what it is... A disastrous masterpiece." ~ 7thVoid "Hates a river that only flows down." ~ 7thVoid |
| damn.. fk kaga, fk that punk banri.. TAKE OVER GHOST BANRI!!!!! Poor Linda :( |
| Banri is actually worst than a fucking generic harem MC, every scenes he's in I want to punch him in the face. fuck banri and linda #teamkaga |
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| You guys try to understand the characters before flaming them. What is happening in this show isn't just "OMG dimwit Banri's", "leave them alone Linda's" or "Stalker Koko" fault. They are all equally to blame here and I think this show is about one's growth as a person more than just your generic love story. >Koko is desperately trying to change herself, but old habits die hard so she's possessive and jealous. >Linda isn't honest with her feelings and her not dating Banri is completely her fault at the moment because she ran away after the accident instead of confronting him (not to mention pretending to not even know him when they met in episode 1). >Banri... oh Banri's a curious specimen. Imagine yourself with no memories at all save for one year and those are mostly hospital related. Of course he's confused, ANYONE would be! He is a blank trying to find his identity, but it seems like his whiny high school self is still in his subconsciousness (the ghost Banri). Until he casts it aside or embraces it he won't be able to move on. |
| That was quite some stalking Koko. I still dont know what to make about Koko and Banri as a couple. |
| Aw see how much she's grown! I absolutely love kouko. No one's perfect, people make mistakes, however its rather annoying when you continue to make the same stupid mistakes over and over again thinking they will hold some other result other than failure. Linda figure out what the hell you want you only cause further problems every single time... |
| "People die if they get killed" who knew. |
| Yana if you even think of getting with Linda I'm going to be super pissed off. I'm still hoping Linda gets with Barni by the end of the series. |
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Tengoku_no_hakai said: You guys try to understand the characters before flaming them. What is happening in this show isn't just "OMG dimwit Banri's", "leave them alone Linda's" or "Stalker Koko" fault. They are all equally to blame here and I think this show is about one's growth as a person more than just your generic love story. >Koko is desperately trying to change herself, but old habits die hard so she's possessive and jealous. >Linda isn't honest with her feelings and her not dating Banri is completely her fault at the moment because she ran away after the accident instead of confronting him (not to mention pretending to not even know him when they met in episode 1). >Banri... oh Banri's a curious specimen. Imagine yourself with no memories at all save for one year and those are mostly hospital related. Of course he's confused, ANYONE would be! He is a blank trying to find his identity, but it seems like his whiny high school self is still in his subconsciousness (the ghost Banri). Until he casts it aside or embraces it he won't be able to move on. Yeah but I feel like there's two paths in front of him. One is completely destructive and will hold him back instead of take him forward. One is full of growth with someone who is willing to make mistakes and learn from them. I think its good to see the consequences (positive, and negative) for both roads. Linda has done nothing but make things worse. If I knew my boyfriend had amnesia and I couldn't get a hold of him, damn right I would be scared. She truly cares for him, and was seriously worried about him and then she finds him with the very person that's causing issues in their relationship? I'd be furious. I however didn't think she was going to react the way she did, that should show the viewers how much she has grown and matured and was willing to discuss what she is going through as well as see his perspective. I can't wait to see where they do with this. |
| "People die if they get killed" who knew. |
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