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Oct 23, 2013 10:26 PM

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AiCon said:
The radiation is probably not that bad if those people could live 20+ years in Tokyo. Even with radiation suits - that's still a really long time to spend in a radioactive wasteland.


If you mean it ain't that bad inside closed structures and underground facilities, sure. They still need to have suits on when just taking a walk outside. If you spend most of your life indoors, chances are you'll be fine, compared to just wandering the wasteland and taking in all the radiation. With regular supply delivery, people don't need to stay out, therefore reducing long-term exposure to radiation. In real life, without proper living quarters and suits, they'd be lucky to survive the first year.
Oct 23, 2013 10:50 PM
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If you mean it ain't that bad inside closed structures and underground facilities, sure. They still need to have suits on when just taking a walk outside. If you spend most of your life indoors, chances are you'll be fine, compared to just wandering the wasteland and taking in all the radiation. With regular supply delivery, people don't need to stay out, therefore reducing long-term exposure to radiation. In real life, without proper living quarters and suits, they'd be lucky to survive the first year.
You make a good point, but people still need to go outside on a regular basis to stimulate the mind in order to prevent cabin fever, and being unhinged (like the mom). They also have to go outside when they receive their weekly supplies. Over time, that adds up.

I'm falling behind on some shows, so I'll have to end it here. Great discussion, though.
Oct 23, 2013 10:59 PM

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What a complete trainwreck.

The premise of the story is intriguing but it is so poorly executed what do we do go around and help every person oooooo EXCITING. i really want to like it but hell the story doesnt seem to be going anywhere.

And what is with the unnecessary over the top emotion not sure there thinking behind that putting that garbage in.
Oct 24, 2013 12:27 AM
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Here's a question I was asking myself: Beyond all the other impossibilities dealing with a stealth bomber being treated like it's a fighter jet that can somehow be slow enough and yet accurate enough to track a rickety jeep anywhere. And not to mention slow enough that the girls are actually able to shoot it down from said jeep...

If B2 bombers are pretty much exclusive to the United States with only 21 having been produced, how the heck did a "back-end" Japanese company called Yellow Cake get a hold of one anyway. I would understand if they were trying to implicate the US, but it was a Japanese company turned dumpers-for-hire, that were doing this. So yeah, where did they get the bomber, and how the heck did the US not notice one was missing?!
The professor explained in the show that Yellow Cake was probably charging a huge amount to dispose of the waste from all over the world, which could explain how they could afford a single B2. This show also takes place in the future, so China could've stolen the blueprints and made their own B2. Whether China, or the US, would actually sell an actual stealth bomber to a Japanese company - who knows.


China definitely would not sell a stealth bomber to the Japanese. Although I said I wouldn't bother anymore, one other thing REALLY bugged me. The dialogue with when they hit the plane... the professor says if the aircraft's flames were extinguished in the water they would get away.. now let's trying to analyze that for a second. How in the world does would that make sense?

First off outing the fire doesn't change the fact the plane would have a gigantic part of its wing blown off.. and secondly if they land in water how will they take off again? :|

This show....... I feel like the writers and editors need to all look for other jobs. It's one thing if they just got the accuracy of the technology and what not wrong, but they are just getting everything wrong.
Oct 24, 2013 12:32 AM

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Yes, yes, that was way too much crying.
Oct 24, 2013 12:37 AM
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skudoops said:
China definitely would not sell a stealth bomber to the Japanese. Although I said I wouldn't bother anymore, one other thing REALLY bugged me. The dialogue with when they hit the plane... the professor says if the aircraft's flames were extinguished in the water they would get away.. now let's trying to analyze that for a second. How in the world does would that make sense?

First off outing the fire doesn't change the fact the plane would have a gigantic part of its wing blown off.. and secondly if they land in water how will they take off again? :|

This show....... I feel like the writers and editors need to all look for other jobs. It's one thing if they just got the accuracy of the technology and what not wrong, but they are just getting everything wrong.
Maybe it was the Russians who sold the plane. lol

Military aircraft are designed to take some damage and still fly home. The B2 is also basically one giant flying wing, so having a small chunk blown off wouldn't have crashed the place - the fuel tank on fire would though.

My guess is that the professor though the plane would dip part of the wing to douse the flames, but yeah, that was just really stupid because dipping the wing would've at least destroyed the wing or more likely violently crashed landed the plane.
Oct 24, 2013 12:53 AM

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It's been quite fine, just a bit of over-the-top melodrama.

Just asking, where is exactly is this anime headed at? Does it go from arc to arc like KamiNai, or is there a purpose later on like long running shonen?
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Oct 24, 2013 2:41 AM

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"He just took his mask off! He now has exactly ten minutes!"

I like this show, but that whole section was pure nonsense. There's no way that they'd know the radiation would kill him in just ten minutes, not to mention the fact that him not putting the mask on would expose him to even more radiation. It's also already been established that the Aether drug can't help people who have been exposed to a certain amount of radiation, so him not having the mask on would have made things much worse.
Oct 24, 2013 2:44 AM
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cry cry cry
spew some BS -trying to be heartfelt- dialogue
cry cry cry


Fuck your shit Coppelion!
Oct 24, 2013 3:28 AM

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It's like the only way this anime has shows you it's serious is by making everyone baw their eyes out. I'm sure these girls would have at least hardened a little over time.

It seems to be running on every episode/mini-arc ending up as a rescue mission. A visible antagonist (as seen in the OP) would have done wonders by now. Dropped until I hear it gets better.
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Oct 24, 2013 3:51 AM

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Hmm the 2 other girls are kind of useless... and Ibara seems overemotional ^^'
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This. I get so pissed of because this show has such potential :'( (yes that was a real tear, not one of those overdramatical ones made by Ibara-sempai)
The art is fantastic and the OP and ED are so catchy and beautiful in a very dark/sad way.
Oct 24, 2013 5:45 AM

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The B-2 stealth bomber part was kind of unrealistic,
but then again what can you expect with this setting

I didn't like the over drama though

The cesspool waste dump is still a problem of today
Oct 24, 2013 6:50 AM

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Forced drama as shit. Ok, in the previous episodes someone died and there was at least some reason to cry. And after the professor was injected with another dosage of that shit, he didn't even bother to put on the mask. No problem the air is clean and who the fuck cares about the radiation anyway -_-
Oct 24, 2013 7:59 AM

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This tittle has nothing going for it except for the nice visuals. The forced drama is very annoying and the characters are starting to look quite bland. Not to mention we're about to move to even more SoL with that list they got now. It looks the only way to enjoy this a little is to turn off your brain and look at the scenery.
Oct 24, 2013 8:54 AM
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im a fan of apocolypse stuff so no matter how shitty the eps of this show might be to others they arent to me so i rate this anime ep 9999999999999/10
Oct 24, 2013 9:02 AM

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So much melodrama!

Like some of the art and music, but overall it's becoming quite meh.
Oct 24, 2013 10:02 AM

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The OP is definitely the best thing about this show :/
I probably regret this post by now.
Oct 24, 2013 10:10 AM

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It was a pretty good episode, save for the fact that the girls started bawling their eyes out at the scene where they realised what the stealth jet bomber was doing. I was really bewildered by that scene. The professor scene at the end was quite touching though.
I think I'm going to watch this to the end now. Was a major step-up from mediocre first three episodes.
Oct 24, 2013 10:25 AM
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Damn.. They cry so much. Its annoying. Ibara saynig "How long are you going to keep crying" at the end pissed me off more :V
Forced drama, Useless action, wierd plot/story.
Such a waste of nice visuals and awesome ED.

Also (regarding ep3) , is there anyone who *didn't* notice it was a B-2 bomber or at least a plane before Taeko had to use her super vision to figure it out?
Oct 24, 2013 11:14 AM

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xchee said:
I'm losing hope for this adaptation. I love the manga to bits but this...what the hell is this?!


Could you tell me the difference between the manga and anime? Did they changed a few scenes? characterization? script?? Because i like the setting very much, and if the manga is actually that good, i'm thinking of switch to manga :)
Oct 24, 2013 11:58 AM
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These coppelion's special ability is to cry about everything and all the time?....
Oct 24, 2013 12:59 PM

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The evil antagonist Yellow Cake... his right hand man Dark Teapot, the five-member elite cakedefenseforce squadron who swore undying loyalty to him, and this show could be twice as funny.
Oct 24, 2013 1:01 PM

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Ibara is such a cry-baby. I didn't really mind this time, but it still felt unnecessary.

Next episode looked very interesting though.
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Oct 24, 2013 2:41 PM

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Well pretty much an Okay episode imo. The B-2 Bomber chase scene with the animation of it was good, and the countdown timer was pretty intense to heal the professor.

Well the problem is that the 3 MC kept on crying throughout the episode, the 2 other girls were kind of useless, and how can the supporting characters survived that long when they are still outside... Also for the story, kind of going downhill now, so I expect something much more in later episodes.

Oct 24, 2013 3:06 PM
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So many things wrong with this show. Kinda close to dropping it.
Oct 24, 2013 4:45 PM

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B-2 bomber was tooken down.

Highly radioactive waste (barrels) in river?The stealth bomber was the one dropping them.Yellow Cake?Hmm,wonder if the 2 other Coppelion are related to this somehow?

Professor Shiba goes to a shrine and takes his mask off cause he wants to atone for his sins.He nearly died,but was saved by Ibara.Countdown made the scene seem more intense.Also dat catch,Ibara with dat Aomine flexibility.

Crying.More crying.Usually don't noticed force drama but did this episode.

Vice-Principle forgives the Professor.

"I think those girls...could be more human than we are."
Really pushing this doll thing of them not being human but still being human.
Oct 24, 2013 5:04 PM

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Not bad, but neither good.
I just want to see the white-haired guy from the opening, he looks quite interesting.
Oct 24, 2013 6:46 PM

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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say, episode 6 will have unecessary crying...and then episode 8 too until the end of this. its crying every two episodes aye!

i'll be a trooper and stick through with this. oh me and my philosophy of finishing something once started
Oct 24, 2013 7:31 PM

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I'm surprised at all the hate, I'm having a blast with this series. Hana Kana is putting in some serious overtime this season. I think she's in at least 10 shows from this season alone.
Oct 24, 2013 7:46 PM

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millo said:
xchee said:
I'm losing hope for this adaptation. I love the manga to bits but this...what the hell is this?!


Could you tell me the difference between the manga and anime? Did they changed a few scenes? characterization? script?? Because i like the setting very much, and if the manga is actually that good, i'm thinking of switch to manga :)


The events are pretty much the same, the staff actually did a good job following the flow of the manga. The same could not be said with execution and exposition. They cut out so many stuff that certain scenes in the anime makes you go "wait what? WTF? Why?!" Like



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Some of the cheesy lines and the crying definitely feels forced but I wonder if the Japanese audience feels the same. You think they're more forgiving because they can relate?
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Oct 24, 2013 7:53 PM

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Emo, its just too Emo, unjustified crying and shouting all the time.. meh, will give 1 more ep a go but probably gonna drop it..
PS. No comments about bomber, that was soooo realistic.
Oct 24, 2013 9:08 PM

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Everyone is safe for now.

Great episode!!!
Oct 24, 2013 9:37 PM

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Duma said:
Emo, its just too Emo, unjustified crying and shouting all the time.. meh, will give 1 more ep a go but probably gonna drop it..
PS. No comments about bomber, that was soooo realistic.


Yup. While I agree with some ppl that there was a fair amount of suspense and thrill in this episode, I couldn't take Ibara's tears seriously anymore. We already knew that she hates people dying in front of her eyes from episode 1, but the anime kept repeating the same situation over and over, and usually ends with Ibara crying because she's relieved... wtf. The end was especially cheesy, with the quote that took the cake for being the most awkward and cheesiest line: "I don't really understand such difficult things, but there is one thing I do understand. That is... that the sky is beautiful again today!!" *cringes*
Oct 24, 2013 10:39 PM

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Great episode. There sure is a lot crying in this show, but I guess I can understand that they are trying to save everyone.
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Oct 24, 2013 11:28 PM

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it was okay episode 3/5, i love the op though, i think next episode would be alot better, guessing from the preview
Oct 25, 2013 3:05 AM

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what's with this show and it's barrage of unnecessary and over-the-top drama? that action scene in the beginning was ridiculous to say the least and not in a good way..

sigh.. it COULD have been good, I thought it was the most promising anime this season after watching the first episode. Now it has turned out to be one of the worst -____-
Oct 25, 2013 5:59 AM

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that aside..this is another overdramatical and overemotional episode which annoys me greatly cause half the time someone is yelling at someone. also the girl who yells "ibara senpai" every 10 seconds still is useless as fuck.

Honestly I don't mind characters crying but wow Ibara cries a lot, I guess she's just overly emotional about everything. And when she cried, the other two start crying with her. Lol at Ibara's tears at the end, couldn't they have animated that better? Well the action was still quite nice, though they could improve on their animation...the characters don't look as good as the backgrounds. And yeah Aoi seems pretty useless so far.


I hate that so freaking much. The characters are just ...

Why do they have to cry about everything ? -_-
Oct 25, 2013 7:21 AM
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Dropped ty
Oct 25, 2013 7:58 AM

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xchee said:
millo said:
xchee said:
I'm losing hope for this adaptation. I love the manga to bits but this...what the hell is this?!


Could you tell me the difference between the manga and anime? Did they changed a few scenes? characterization? script?? Because i like the setting very much, and if the manga is actually that good, i'm thinking of switch to manga :)


The events are pretty much the same, the staff actually did a good job following the flow of the manga. The same could not be said with execution and exposition. They cut out so many stuff that certain scenes in the anime makes you go "wait what? WTF? Why?!" Like



- - -

Some of the cheesy lines and the crying definitely feels forced but I wonder if the Japanese audience feels the same. You think they're more forgiving because they can relate?


I wouldn't know. Maybe some are probably.
Oct 25, 2013 8:07 AM
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There's too much over the top melodrama and bad pacing for me to enjoy this. Just shoddy directing really. It's a shame because I like the premise and the art and recognize the effort that goes into those backgrounds. I'll wait until it ends to see if it's worth picking up again.
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Oct 25, 2013 12:37 PM

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Irenesharda said:
If B2 bombers are pretty much exclusive to the United States with only 21 having been produced, how the heck did a "back-end" Japanese company called Yellow Cake get a hold of one anyway. I would understand if they were trying to implicate the US, but it was a Japanese company turned dumpers-for-hire, that were doing this. So yeah, where did they get the bomber, and how the heck did the US not notice one was missing?!


Every year the USAF loses at least one plane in an accident. If we go into conspiracy theory territory, a plane could be reported as "lost in a crash in the ocean" so no recovery or satellite photos of the crash are possible and instead deliver it for top dollar$.

So far nobody has mentioned that the B2 is NOT a cargo airplane, there is space for the pilots, the bombs and that's it. The same mistake I continue to see in the x-men comics everytime they use their blackbird plane >_<
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Oct 25, 2013 12:44 PM

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the writing and dialogue are getting worse and worse
Oct 25, 2013 2:09 PM

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Glad they saved the professor.
Oct 25, 2013 4:02 PM

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Speaking of forced drama I really couldn't help myself but I laughed pretty hard during that crying scene when they saved the professor. Pathos is good but they should try and not overuse it.

And they still thinks are on school trip, this is hopeless.
(also, new quest - now they have something to do till the end of this series, hm)

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The end was especially cheesy, with the quote that took the cake for being the most awkward and cheesiest line: "I don't really understand such difficult things, but there is one thing I do understand. That is... that the sky is beautiful again today!!" *cringes*

Yeah, after he said his sorry for putting them into world like this. That was... you know, I really don't understand such difficult sentences but this one... I had to laugh out loud for too long :))

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Oct 25, 2013 4:09 PM

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Fell asleep halfway through. Was pretty boring, too much crying (even when they're not real humans) and I'm not interested in the characters. Will still continue this tho.
Oct 25, 2013 7:12 PM

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Not very good, and deservedly disliked.

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Oct 25, 2013 8:08 PM
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Wow I see a lot of people discussing the military side of the anime (IDK a thing about that, just saying)

If those 3 don't pull it up together by the next episode and act like THE MCs, they will probably annoy me with every little thing they do -_-' this series is depending on them.

Again with the forced drama, and cool lines that doesn't really match what were watching.

I won't drop this till I see the Sisters and Haruto, I still have hopes for them.
Oct 25, 2013 11:23 PM

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I was going to come here and complain about the B-2 Bomber and them crying over everything but I see that it's already been covered. I'm glad that everyone seemed to beat me to pointing out the bull in this anime, now I don't have to :D

EDIT: Anybody else notice that the bomber-turned-fighter fired two missiles but there were three explosions?
Oct 26, 2013 1:53 AM

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I feel... little emotional scene there LOL
Oct 26, 2013 4:16 AM

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So many sad scenes so why did I find myself lol'ing at those scenes, so overdramatic.


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