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| See the thing is, Free is popular as shit and is selling like hot cakes, if you switched to all girls its more likley it'd do worse just cause its not going to appeal to all those fujioshi's in addition to the people just watching the show cause its entertaining to them. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: See the thing is, Free is popular as shit and is selling like hot cakes, if you switched to all girls its more likley it'd do worse just cause its not going to appeal to all those fujioshi's in addition to the people just watching the show cause its entertaining to them. This. It's original, in a way. |
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Nidstang said: Not really, Its still the same show kyo ani has been doing for the past several years, they just added more guys to the formula while still throwing in a couple overly moe girls to satisfy their regular fanbaseDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: See the thing is, Free is popular as shit and is selling like hot cakes, if you switched to all girls its more likley it'd do worse just cause its not going to appeal to all those fujioshi's in addition to the people just watching the show cause its entertaining to them. This. It's original, in a way. Essentially free exists solely for them to gather more fans on the female gender since they really focused on appealing to guys in the past, and They are probably doing this cause that one show that airs in a few weeks looks like it has such a high budget that they need to get as many people onto their side for that to break even let alone make profit. Its a smart move and seeing how that newer show actually looks like its slightly breaking from their normal formula i hope it does well |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Probably not. Well, maybe. I know Kyoani is no stranger to cute girls doing cute things. But this isn't really cute. It's more sexy. I don't think Kyoani has done an all out fanservice anime, with hot babes constantly in bikinis and getting wet. It would definitely be controversial. |
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GoldenthunderBRS said: Yes, I believe that is exactly what I implied.Red_Keys said: Probably not. Well, maybe. I know Kyoani is no stranger to cute girls doing cute things. But this isn't really cute. It's more sexy. I don't think Kyoani has done an all out fanservice anime, with hot babes constantly in bikinis and getting wet. It would definitely be controversial. It wil might be the exact same thing right now they doing right now as males. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: See the thing is, Free is popular as shit and is selling like hot cakes, if you switched to all girls its more likley it'd do worse just cause its not going to appeal to all those fujioshi's in addition to the people just watching the show cause its entertaining to them. That's just an exaggeration. It would be popular but I don't know if it will sell or not. It will also be an experiment since Kyoto ani don't do fan service. |
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tsudecimo said: Exageration, 20 K sales on 1 volume for a show is not a exaggeration on selling like hot cakes, thats enough to make them start making a season 2 before the show even finishes airing.DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: See the thing is, Free is popular as shit and is selling like hot cakes, if you switched to all girls its more likley it'd do worse just cause its not going to appeal to all those fujioshi's in addition to the people just watching the show cause its entertaining to them. That's just an exaggeration. It would be popular but I don't know if it will sell or not. It will also be an experiment since don't do fan service. Also how do you think something can be popular without selling? Thats a controdiction |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I guess most people prefer sports anime with male casts. Making a sports anime with an all-female cast just for fanservice is just pointless. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Exageration, 20 K sales on 1 volume for a show is not a exaggeration on selling like hot cakes, thats enough to make them start making a season 2 before the show even finishes airing. Also how do you think something can be popular without selling? Thats a controdiction Saying it's selling like hot cakes means it is gonna sell more than 30k, well to me anyway. Popularity doesn't always mean sales, otherwise all anime with high rating in tv should have an equal great sales. seikipunch said: I guess most people prefer sports anime with male casts. Making a sports anime with an all-female cast just for fanservice is just pointless. You are calling free pointless then. |
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| probably not. there are several cute girls doing cute things shows coming each season but most of them don't sell outstandingly. free is not really original - but something different i guess. |
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blue001 said: weiqifan said: No. Let's be real here. It's an amazing show that has the same premise as k-on. Swim team vs light music club. Why is K-on so popular and free not as popular? Only difference is the gender. But the premise isn't entirely the same as K-ON! and the only difference is not simply the gender. It's not so simple as labeling the two series as a school team/club series with differing composing genders. If everything is kept the same, except for the gender, I simply cannot imagine it doing better than the current Free! Imagine, Nanase Haruka, a girl who strips at the sight of water, wears a swimsuit beneath her clothing daily, eats mackerel without fail, has got a fellow girl, Rin, at her throat, and her brother Gou, absolutely loves drooling at her non-existent (or less-defined) muscles... fantastic, such an appealing and decent first impression it'll leave! I'd probably love her even more, after the episodes, right?! ... quirky. In all seriousness, I think Free! would lose a portion of its appeal had the setting been changed so that the swimming team consists of females. I highly doubt the story will flow as well, and it probably will come off more as another fanservice series made for the male audiences because the story wouldn't be half as realistic as the current one. If the setting is changed to fit more snugly with the gender of the swimming team, then I think that would be an entirely different series and it wouldn't be as fair to compare it with the original Free! anime, because other factors aside from the gender difference is considered too. With the above mentioned, I believe you meant to keep the setting the same in the comparison, with the genders of the cast flipped. And I honestly cannot envision it doing better than the current Free!. Maybe it'll appeal more to the larger male crowd? But I don't see every series trying to appeal to the male doing as well as Free! is doing, and I see it as unlikely that Fem!Free! will break the mold. Red_Keys said: Probably not. Well, maybe. I know Kyoani is no stranger to cute girls doing cute things. But this isn't really cute. It's more sexy. I don't think Kyoani has done an all out fanservice anime, with hot babes constantly in bikinis and getting wet. It would definitely be controversial. Indeed it'll be controversial. I doubt they'll be clad in bikinis though. It's a swimming club. If they are still clad in bikinis nonetheless... well, can't say that I feel assured about the direction it is heading towards. |
weiqifan said: and her brother Gou, absolutely loves drooling at her non-existent (or less-defined) muscles... If the main cast was female and it was still an anime about swimming, they'd have to keep the bodies in similar shapes. I do think that guys with muscles are more popular (with a female audience) than muscular girls could be (with a male audience)... |
Face_Faith said: weiqifan said: and her brother Gou, absolutely loves drooling at her non-existent (or less-defined) muscles... If the main cast was female and it was still an anime about swimming, they'd have to keep the bodies in similar shapes. I do think that guys with muscles are more popular (with a female audience) than muscular girls could be (with a male audience)... LOL that paragraph wasn't meant to be taken seriously. But yes, they'll most likely be in similar shapes (or as similar as high school female swimmers can get, because I don't think they will look very muscular, judging from my own experience and Google's photos), but their muscles are going to be less-defined, definitely. The main cast can probably be slender-looking female with not much visible muscles and few would complain... And yes again, LOL. It would be difficult to pull off Mikasa Ackerman 2... or would it? |
rainbowcakesSep 22, 2013 7:33 PM
| no bc not enough skin bc they wear those types of swimsuits |
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tsudecimo said: But great reviews don't necessarily mean popularityDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Exageration, 20 K sales on 1 volume for a show is not a exaggeration on selling like hot cakes, thats enough to make them start making a season 2 before the show even finishes airing. Also how do you think something can be popular without selling? Thats a controdiction Saying it's selling like hot cakes means it is gonna sell more than 30k, well to me anyway. Popularity doesn't always mean sales, otherwise all anime with high rating in tv should have an equal great sales. |
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| most likely it'll be marked as "ecchi" LOLOL hotstud6969 said: no bc not enough skin bc they wear those types of swimsuits ^ |
tsudecimo said: seikipunch said: I guess most people prefer sports anime with male casts. Making a sports anime with an all-female cast just for fanservice is just pointless. You are calling free pointless then. Nope. I just said that making a sports anime with an all-female cast for the purpose of fanservice is pointless. Like if there were a football anime where MCs with bouncy boobs run around, it would be a complete train-wreck. |
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| Nope. I don't know, Free! was refreshing as it was. KyoAni is really good at storytelling in such a short time (I felt really good after watching Chunnbiyou too so I really like KyoAni as of late), but to me, a female version wouldn't make any sense nor would have made waves as it did - it would make the show more generic to me if it was an all female-cast. I think it could be done, especially with the way KyoAni has done their shows in recent years, but it wouldn't have the same effect at all. This is honestly the first show I have ever watched that appealed to a broad female audience (that wasn't just into shounen-ai or yaoi undertones that's not a bad thing either but still) with a pretty decent storyline, character setup and the like. And it's by my far my favorite sports anime of all time too. I just really liked the show because, while it was a bit of fan service for women (because I will admit it, I did initially only want to watch this show because the guys were hot from the commercial), it was still a pretty decent anime for what it's worth. It wasn't overtly fanservicely (is that a word?) like shows can get when aiming for a particular audience and the characters were pretty solid. Although some of the drama felt a bit fast paced toward the end, they did it a good job wrapping up the major underlying problems among the characters and making it pretty easy for them to make a second season if they chose to. I'd be fine if they didn't make a second season, but if they did, I'm all there. Hell, I want a damn jacket and Haru plush at this point. |
seikipunch said: tsudecimo said: seikipunch said: I guess most people prefer sports anime with male casts. Making a sports anime with an all-female cast just for fanservice is just pointless. You are calling free pointless then. Nope. I just said that making a sports anime with an all-female cast for the purpose of fanservice is pointless. Like if there were a football anime where MCs with bouncy boobs run around, it would be a complete train-wreck. ^^ Agreed. I think this is a valid point. Free! had a good setup going for it because it was different in that the characters were male and it was a sports anime that was a bit of fanservice, but was also a good show to watch. If anything, unfortunately, if this anime was geared toward men in making an all-female audience, it would have more fan-service and it would make it really hard to find appealing for both men and women because for the most part, KyoAni can do cutesy moe, but sexy? I wouldn't want to see that because I see it a lot in animes already. I'm sorry, but I don't see the reason why so many men can't get past letting women have one show geared toward them. That's just my opinion, but I think that's why KyoAni made Free! the way it was because that was their main audience for a long time and it was a good idea to expand their fanbase (I mean, I honestly do not know many women who watch K-On or Lucky Star for the cutesy moe characters - they exist but I don't know many). |
| No, calm down fuck. |
| I've gonna put this out there for the sake of putting it out there: Have a non-hentai(hella echhi tho think Kiss x Sis) futa version of Free! with lolis,shota,genderswaps, beastiality and tentacles for good measure! That way everybody is happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
| Irrelevant. Still boils down to the story. Shows with the hottest female cast with a weak ass "everything else" aren't overly popular and it's because it drops the ball in other categories. Free was good. Male cast and all. |
tsudecimo said: It would be popular but I don't know if it will sell or not. It will also be an experiment since Kyoto ani don't do fan service. http://jedko.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/moe-467-sample.jpg |
weiqifan said: Face_Faith said: weiqifan said: and her brother Gou, absolutely loves drooling at her non-existent (or less-defined) muscles... If the main cast was female and it was still an anime about swimming, they'd have to keep the bodies in similar shapes. I do think that guys with muscles are more popular (with a female audience) than muscular girls could be (with a male audience)... LOL that paragraph wasn't meant to be taken seriously. But yes, they'll most likely be in similar shapes (or as similar as high school female swimmers can get, because I don't think they will look very muscular, judging from my own experience and Google's photos), but their muscles are going to be less-defined, definitely. The main cast can probably be slender-looking female with not much visible muscles and few would complain... And yes again, LOL. It would be difficult to pull off Mikasa Ackerman 2... or would it? I had that thought anyway, but since you already brought it up I thought adding that would be better~ |
| it's depends from age of these girls... :D |
| We're all mad here |
| I don't think so. First of all, it started because so many people freaked out after seeing the demo vid thing. Who freaked out? Girls, for finally having an anime that really caters to them. This would not have happened if they were all girls as it would melt in with pretty much every anime ever. Why would anyone care about yet another seemingly fanservice anime involving girls. Free! got such a huge headstart because it was original and for once women had the same amount of fanservice men usually have. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
blue001 said: all the recent anime have all-female cast Just shut the fuck up. GracefulDownfallGirls, for finally having an anime that really caters to them.[... said: Free! got such a huge headstart because it was original and for once women had the same amount of fanservice men usually have. You too. There's nothing original about Free. It's a sports series revolving around a primarily male cast along with some manservice for the ladies. Don't pretend those never existed and aren't still hugely popular now. Fujoshi are a known market and they always have shows directed at them and made to provide them with fanservice. Free is not original, it's not new in any way aside the literal series being a new one, and it's not the first (nor even remotely close to being the first) show to give females "the same amount of fanservice men usually have". Nor was it the first show of this type to come with a supposedly good story. You people need to stop talking out of your ignorant asses - not knowing things doesn't give you justification for making shit up and assuming massive generalizations you think up are correct. Almost this entire thread is filled with this same ignorant shit. |
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TallonKarrde23 said: blue001 said: all the recent anime have all-female cast Just shut the fuck up. GracefulDownfallGirls, for finally having an anime that really caters to them.[... said: Free! got such a huge headstart because it was original and for once women had the same amount of fanservice men usually have. You too. There's nothing original about Free. It's a sports series revolving around a primarily male cast along with some manservice for the ladies. Don't pretend those never existed and aren't still hugely popular now. Fujoshi are a known market and they always have shows directed at them and made to provide them with fanservice. Free is not original, it's not new in any way aside the literal series being a new one, and it's not the first (nor even remotely close to being the first) show to give females "the same amount of fanservice men usually have". Nor was it the first show of this type to come with a supposedly good story. You people need to stop talking out of your ignorant asses - not knowing things doesn't give you justification for making shit up and assuming massive generalizations you think up are correct. Almost this entire thread is filled with this same ignorant shit. i agree |
TallonKarrde23 said: GracefulDownfallGirls, for finally having an anime that really caters to them.[... said: Free! got such a huge headstart because it was original and for once women had the same amount of fanservice men usually have. You too. There's nothing original about Free. It's a sports series revolving around a primarily male cast along with some manservice for the ladies. Don't pretend those never existed and aren't still hugely popular now. Fujoshi are a known market and they always have shows directed at them and made to provide them with fanservice. Free is not original, it's not new in any way aside the literal series being a new one, and it's not the first (nor even remotely close to being the first) show to give females "the same amount of fanservice men usually have". Nor was it the first show of this type to come with a supposedly good story. You people need to stop talking out of your ignorant asses - not knowing things doesn't give you justification for making shit up and assuming massive generalizations you think up are correct. Almost this entire thread is filled with this same ignorant shit. Everything you just said doesn't change that fact that it got a huge headstart because it catered to women. It literally wouldn't have been made w/o such a major reaction on the internet and all the petitions that followed. That's the point I was trying to make. Also, please direct me to an anime that is like Free! in all of its aspects and not just a sports anime with an all male cast that also happens to be good looking. Because I've been pissed off about the prevalence of fanservice for men for quite a while and was actually looking for anime to balance it out but no, the ~fanservice~ women usually get is just an all-male cast of good looking guys. I don't really remember running into something where there were random pointless muscle shots of barely clothed men before (if we exclude hentai). If there was something like that before you're still wrong cause it obviously wasn't very popular otherwise people would've actually been aware of it. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| No. If it's gender bent, and full of useless fanservices like boobs bouncing or bikini, it'll be worse in quality. If it's like the norm, the same story with this, and the same character personality, then the one with Rin's personality would seems like a bitch, even more than jerky Rin. All in all if this is gender bent, it won't work out. |
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| There are shows that cater to horny hetero men every season. Busty females, kawaii lolis and all that. Of course it's popular since we finally get one aimed at girls (or faggots like me). Bring it on. |
| No, because there are already many anime like that which gather to men out there. Free! is quite unique in that regard and therefore has little competition. That is why it's so insanely popular right now. |
| It would be popular with boys, that's for sure. |
| ^ true. Would definitely be popular with the boys. And am sure it would have tonnes of fanservice for them too (similar to all borderline stuff that is thrown as us every season in most shows nowadays) I love the fact the an anime with the sport of swimming was made and that too with awesome animation. My only regret about this show is that the guy are not manly enough. They have girly name AND personalities. It was quiet awkward to see a girly behaviour of a hunk like him -> http://myanimelist.net/character/83027/Makoto_Tachibana especially T_T the only guy who had a better personality (i mean the right kind of attitude) of all was Rin. |
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| I don't know I'm not a predictor :D |
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| Actually I like this show the way it is With Kou it's good as a balance If MCs are female then Kou's counterpart is a male A boy's looking at girl's body (not muscles).. Pretty common.. right? But I don't mind if there's one in the future And both will popular for different gender |
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| No. just finished this anime. and I think the selling point of this anime just fanservices and yaoi bait. the story only funny and interesting in the beginning part. i'm pretty sure if this show using all female casts, all this anime get is only bashing about useless fanservice and wasted of money like what happened to Tamako Market |
| No it wouldn't Free! would have failed just like Kyoukai no Kanata where the characters nor plot are not all that entertaining. Also the only time I watch sports is if it has an interesting plot and for the bromance. I would ignore series if there was sports with all girls unless its figure skating like Ginban Kaleidoscope. |
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| I liked Free because it wasn't like that, though I would have probably loved to see Yui & co joining a swimming club. |
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