Monogatari Series: Final Season
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Aug 4, 2013 3:36 AM
#1
終物語 http://www.monogatari-series.com/2ndseason/news/index.html Can't wait! Not up on Amazon.co.jp yet but will watch for it like a hawk and will order it as soon as I can so I'm not late getting it like I was with Koyomimonogatari... 終物語 下 Up for order! 396 pages! http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4062838680 http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-1637439 |
hpulleyMar 31, 2014 6:18 PM
Aug 4, 2013 7:53 AM
#2
I heard October, but this is even better! Live Araragi LIVE!!! |
Aug 4, 2013 7:59 AM
#3
Grouchio said: It was announced, I believe with the first 40 pages of the Oogi Formula arc (1/3 I think), in the October issue of Bessatsu Shounen Magazine (out now) but the hatsubai date is definitely 9/9 for the novel.I heard October, but this is even better! Live Araragi LIVE!!! |
Aug 24, 2013 3:54 AM
#6
Still can't see it listed for sale yet but Koyomimonogatari took forever too... |
Sep 6, 2013 12:29 PM
#7
The cover art for volume 1 is the tv end card. http://i.imgur.com/ojD3sR0.jpg |
Sep 7, 2013 12:43 PM
#8
Still hasn't shown up on amazon, looks like not 9/9? |
Sep 7, 2013 3:13 PM
#9
hpulley said: Still hasn't shown up on amazon, looks like not 9/9? Nope. It's October. http://i.imgur.com/MukwBuv.jpg |
Sep 7, 2013 3:45 PM
#10
yukaru00 said: Thanks, fixed the subject.hpulley said: Still hasn't shown up on amazon, looks like not 9/9? Nope. It's October. http://i.imgur.com/MukwBuv.jpg |
Sep 15, 2013 3:00 PM
#12
It is a two parter, part two next year I assume: Owarimonogatari (上 up) part I Owari I - Ougi formula Owari II - Sodachi riddle Owari III - Sodachi Lost Owari (下 down) part II Owari IV - Ougi dark So final season won't be done until at least next year. Zokuowarimonogatari could also be two parts. |
Sep 16, 2013 5:27 AM
#13
I just found a summary for Ougi Formula!!! Vague yes, but here goes nothing! After being introduced to Ougi, Koyomi and her planned to meet after school but the plan was halted because Ougi saw a room in the school which was supposed to be not there. Ougi even drew a sketch for arararagi to understand. They checked it out and was trapped in the room. They try to break the windows by screeching a pen in the blackboard but they failed. They even re-enacted the gore scene from suruga monkey. Still failed. Koyomi tried to sit in one of the desks and it turns out it was his desk...during his freshman days. Koyomi then started to remember the days when he was a freshmen and this incident that he wouldn't forget. July 15. The day he lose trust on mankind and why he has that motto of making friends will just make you a loser or something like that during the events in Kizu. Arararagi's class held a group study for the final exams. When the results of the exam was revealed, all people who went to the group study had unusually high scores in math than the ones who didn't go. The rumors of someone leaked the test questions in math has surfaced. In order to find the person who leaked, Sodachi, who got 99 score in math, went ahead and told the class that no one will go home until they find who is the culprit. The whole class, tired of Sodachi's bitchy attitude, chose Sodachi as the culprit by majority leading Sodachi to be a hikki and not go to school anymore. This is the reason Arararagi is what he is in the start of Kizu. It is not clear if Arararagi and Senjougahara voted for her as well. Arararagi also never went to the group study. He got a perfect score. Ougi told Ararararagi that they must find who was the culprit in order to escape from the room. Arararagi went super genious-mode and even put a whole page of the book just to display the names of the whole class and their profiles for the readers to solve it by themselves. Senjougahara's name was also there btw. Majority of them have no clubs lol. I didn't try to solve the case and just went with Ougi's theory. Ougi's theory is that their homeroom teacher, Komichi, whom Arararagi purposely(?) or stupidly(?) miswrote in the list as a fellow classmate, was the one who leaked the questions because she also participated in the group study. She used the same questions the students used in the group study in the final exam. Ougi's "formula" was apparently correct so she and arararagi got out of the room. Next day, Arararagi was informed about Sodachi replacing Komichi as the homeroom teacher by Hanekawa. END The whole class had dialogues throughout the whole book. It was fucking random. Komichi also voted Sodachi as the culprit. We even have this sexy endcard with sleeveless Ononoki. HNNNNGGGG. So if the meeting is after neko white, my guess of riddle and lost being right after these events might be correct. Hanekawa is still there so it is before Otori. I don't know if this is also the same classroom where Arararagi opened up to Ougi about Mayoi. |
Sep 16, 2013 4:58 PM
#14
hpulley said: It is a two parter, part two next year I assume: Owarimonogatari (上 up) part I Owari I - Ougi formula Owari II - Sodachi riddle Owari III - Sodachi Lost Owari (下 down) part II Owari IV - Ougi dark So final season won't be done until at least next year. Zokuowarimonogatari could also be two parts. You didn't read the b/w page I've posted up there? Owari 下 will be release around the end of this year, which means the release date is still 2013. Unless Nisio screwed up and couldn't meet the deadline. |
yukaru00Sep 16, 2013 7:09 PM
Sep 16, 2013 6:38 PM
#15
^^^ I read it but I'm not sure I believe it after Koyomi came out in May and Owari 上 is coming out in October, perhaps he has finished it already and they are just waiting a month or two for it to come out??? Sounds awfully soon for 下 after 上 but I guess Nisioisin did write 12 novels in 12 months one time... I guess I'll believe it when my order has a tracking number! |
Oct 9, 2013 5:51 AM
#17
Okay, so Owarimonogatari is seperated in two books and the release date of book 1 is October 22. Any information about the release date of the second book? Still 2013? |
Oct 11, 2013 9:27 AM
#18
huuuh said: Okay, so Owarimonogatari is seperated in two books and the release date of book 1 is October 22. Any information about the release date of the second book? Still 2013? It will be released by the end of this year, if nothing happens to Nishio. |
Oct 12, 2013 1:50 PM
#19
yukaru00 said: It will be released by the end of this year, if nothing happens to Nishio. Sounds good. So, I assume that the first Owarimonogatari book won't take place after Gaen stabbed Araragi's heart but rather around the time of Ougi's introduction. Damn, guess we have to wait for the second Owari book to know what happens after Koyomimonogatari. |
V0ltgOct 12, 2013 1:59 PM
Oct 13, 2013 4:52 PM
#20
huuuh said: yukaru00 said: It will be released by the end of this year, if nothing happens to Nishio. Sounds good. So, I assume that the first Owarimonogatari book won't take place after Gaen stabbed Araragi's heart but rather around the time of Ougi's introduction. Damn, guess we have to wait for the second Owari book to know what happens after Koyomimonogatari. That was the first part of the first Owari volume, with introduction to some new characters and yet another case. The later second and third part of the book are still unknown. |
Oct 20, 2013 8:16 AM
#21
cover art for Owarimonogatari Volume 1/ 終物語 (上) https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/1392029_666581063366451_206901007_n.jpg |
Oct 21, 2013 2:01 AM
#22
Apparently, this is how Sodachi looks like: http://i.imgur.com/UpfjpOX.jpg And Hanekawa in Owari: http://i.imgur.com/jJsGL7A.jpg (Waiting for summaries...) |
Oct 23, 2013 6:54 AM
#23
SUMMARIES HERE! 2ch spoilers are out. I don't know if its real but they're saying lost and riddle are the continuation of formula. Araragi continues to be the narrator. Riddle Sodachi came back to school. Meets arararagi. Ararargi tries to calm sodachi because of what happened in Formula. Grabs her boobs. Stabs him with a pen. Gahara cockblocks. Two bitches had a catfight. Both got banged up they stayed at home for the coming days. Cue flashback to middle school. Sodachi is the reason ararargi likes math. Sodachi teaches him in a run-down classroom. Turns out the classroom is sodachi's home. It is run-down because parents had divorce. Sodachi knows arararagi's parents are police officers. Sodachi sends an SOS riddle to arararagi to help her then. He ignores it. Sodachi had to transfer away from naoetsu because divorce. Sodachi apparently lived in the arararagi household when she was a child because of her family issues. Arararagi also apparently forgotten all about sodachi's case. Sodachi hates him for it lol. Lost Arrararagi checks sodachi's condition. Hanekawa checks hitagi's condition. Ougi start spewing some philosophical bullshit on arararagi again. Hanekawa cockblocks ougi. Hanekawa and Araragi then went to sodachi's house instead. Hanekawa started talking about the sodachi family affairs. Apparently sodachi's hikki mom went outside and never came back. Sodachi will only come back to school once she founds her hikki mom. On the way home Arararagi met Ougi again. Ougi already knows why sodachi is not going to school (Formula). Ougi insults hanekawa's wrong conclusion. Hanekawa got angry. Splashes herself with water. Her tiger stripe hair exposed. Went genius mode and came to the right conclusion about sodachi's case for three seconds. Hanekawa now hates and suspicous about Ougi as well. Cue timeskip. Hitagi and Sodachi both exchanged apology texts to each other. Sodachi ended up transferring for good because scholarship and Formula incident. Sodachi writes a letter to hitagi and put it on her desk. Contents is unknown. This is glorious. Can't wait for the return to the present. Hitagi I swear will shine... |
Oct 23, 2013 11:48 PM
#24
someone has translated first 2 chapters of Ougi Formula! http://90percentzebra.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/ougi-formula-001/ |
Oct 27, 2013 10:30 PM
#25
I am a slow reader. Just started reading chapter 2 of Ougi Formula. |
Oct 28, 2013 3:16 AM
#26
My copy just left Japan today so I won't get it for a while yet, sigh... |
Oct 28, 2013 2:14 PM
#27
Well, introducing a new character at this point in the game? That's rare. I think Sodachi's introduction might be used to show the fact that Koyomi's an unreliable narrator, suggested by someone from the Monogatari Thread in Animesuki. I'm wondering what was the cause of this unreliability, if it might be a major plot point. Amnesia? Long-term Memory Lost? One thing's for certain though is that the letter Sodachi gave to Hitagi is very important to the plot, it might support the Koyomi's unreliability hypothesis. If Nisio goes down this road, I better re-read all the novels to find small points that he could develop into major mind-fucks, like in Zaregoto. Like I said, introduction at this late? I wouldn't be surprise if the main antagonist of this whole conflict is an un-introduced character then. |
Oct 28, 2013 3:13 PM
#28
Xinception said: Well, introducing a new character at this point in the game? That's rare. I think Sodachi's introduction might be used to show the fact that Koyomi's an unreliable narrator, suggested by someone from the Monogatari Thread in Animesuki. I'm wondering what was the cause of this unreliability, if it might be a major plot point. Amnesia? Long-term Memory Lost? One thing's for certain though is that the letter Sodachi gave to Hitagi is very important to the plot, it might support the Koyomi's unreliability hypothesis. If Nisio goes down this road, I better re-read all the novels to find small points that he could develop into major mind-fucks, like in Zaregoto. Lol, are you this user: NotVeryMuchAPro? Read the reply just below your post in Animesuki. |
Oct 28, 2013 5:15 PM
#29
yukaru00 said: Xinception said: Well, introducing a new character at this point in the game? That's rare. I think Sodachi's introduction might be used to show the fact that Koyomi's an unreliable narrator, suggested by someone from the Monogatari Thread in Animesuki. I'm wondering what was the cause of this unreliability, if it might be a major plot point. Amnesia? Long-term Memory Lost? One thing's for certain though is that the letter Sodachi gave to Hitagi is very important to the plot, it might support the Koyomi's unreliability hypothesis. If Nisio goes down this road, I better re-read all the novels to find small points that he could develop into major mind-fucks, like in Zaregoto. Lol, are you this user: NotVeryMuchAPro? Read the reply just below your post in Animesuki. Oh shit, I've been found! Also, I wouldn't count that possibility out, since erhm... Nisio loves mind-fucks. |
XinceptionOct 28, 2013 5:22 PM
Nov 5, 2013 4:08 AM
#30
Have to check twitter and see if Japanese fans have noted that the color of Owarimonogatari part 1 is wrong. It isn't red enough, it is almost salmon in color, strange... |
Nov 6, 2013 3:25 AM
#32
Owarimonogatari may even end up being three novels! In the last line of the atogaki, Nisioisin says he's thinks he can try hard to avoid doing a middle volume between the first and last ones but that tells me he actually thinks it will need a middle volume... so Monogatari may not be over for a while yet: このあと物語は下巻へと続くわけですけれど、上巻と下巻との間に中巻が挟まらないように頑張りたいと思います。 I love Hanekawa in Sodachi Lost! I thought we might have mostly seen the last of her so it was great to see so much of her again. And man, katakana is not just for Shaft cutscenes anymore... with stars, hard to read but fun! Nisioisin has done it again... can't wait for part 2... and 3 :) |
hpulleyNov 6, 2013 3:31 AM
Nov 8, 2013 11:29 AM
#34
hpulley said: Owarimonogatari may even end up being three novels! In the last line of the atogaki, Nisioisin says he's thinks he can try hard to avoid doing a middle volume between the first and last ones but that tells me he actually thinks it will need a middle volume... so Monogatari may not be over for a while yet: このあと物語は下巻へと続くわけですけれど、上巻と下巻との間に中巻が挟まらないように頑張りたいと思います。 Truth to be told, I'm not surprised about this. From what I witnessed, Owarimonogatari creates a new subplot by introducing a new character rather than answering any main questions or resolving obscurities/mysteries (unless I'm missing something). I think Owari part 2 and Zukuowari are not enough for Nisio to write a proper finale showdown + ending. Heck, I can also see that Zukuowari will also be segmented. Also, did you finish reading it? : P |
Nov 9, 2013 2:36 AM
#35
I have done a quick read through to the end but I skimmed so I need to do a proper, slower read of it to get all the details, enjoy the Nisioisin mastery. I'm always impatient and spoil myself on the end of chapter/arc happenings... |
Nov 11, 2013 1:42 PM
#36
hpulley, did you get anything out of Koyomimonogatari BTW? |
Nov 11, 2013 3:14 PM
#37
Grouchio said: What do you mean? Any overriding theme or clues or something? Like most I noticed the last couple of pages of Koyomi Dead more than anything else, especially the last few lines...hpulley, did you get anything out of Koyomimonogatari BTW? |
hpulleyNov 11, 2013 3:37 PM
Nov 12, 2013 10:50 AM
#38
How does it feel being wrapped around by Ougi hands behind you? Damn Araragi... |
Nov 23, 2013 7:26 PM
#39
http://i.imgur.com/wP0HLH9.jpg Came across this today. It says... Hitagi Salamander! |
Dec 14, 2013 7:39 AM
#41
In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. Sneak peek on cover featuring Gaen. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbdK-mRCQAAX58Z.jpg |
yukaru00Dec 14, 2013 7:43 AM
Dec 14, 2013 7:43 AM
#42
yukaru00 said: The atogaki did not lie... I suspect he knew it from the beginning. I don't think Nisio screws up... he's had this planned for years.In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. And this means we get three Vofan covers instead of 2! I don't mind paying 1500 yen each, worth every 円 to me. |
Dec 14, 2013 7:49 AM
#43
hpulley said: yukaru00 said: The atogaki did not lie... I suspect he knew it from the beginning. I don't think Nisio screws up... he's had this planned for years.In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. And this means we get three Vofan covers instead of 2! I don't mind paying 1500 yen each, worth every 円 to me. Haha, by screwed up I mean he is not able to meet the previous dateline for Ougi Dark which supposed to be around this month. |
Dec 14, 2013 8:34 AM
#44
yukaru00 said: Yes, Owarimonogatari was supposed to be done this year. Oops...hpulley said: yukaru00 said: The atogaki did not lie... I suspect he knew it from the beginning. I don't think Nisio screws up... he's had this planned for years.In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. And this means we get three Vofan covers instead of 2! I don't mind paying 1500 yen each, worth every 円 to me. Haha, by screwed up I mean he is not able to meet the previous dateline for Ougi Dark which supposed to be around this month. So, how many volumes will Zokuowarimonogatari be, I wonder? 2? 3 again? Will it be the last volume? Will Monogatari ever end? |
Dec 14, 2013 9:14 AM
#45
hpulley said: yukaru00 said: Yes, Owarimonogatari was supposed to be done this year. Oops...hpulley said: yukaru00 said: The atogaki did not lie... I suspect he knew it from the beginning. I don't think Nisio screws up... he's had this planned for years.In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. And this means we get three Vofan covers instead of 2! I don't mind paying 1500 yen each, worth every 円 to me. Haha, by screwed up I mean he is not able to meet the previous dateline for Ougi Dark which supposed to be around this month. So, how many volumes will Zokuowarimonogatari be, I wonder? 2? 3 again? Will it be the last volume? Will Monogatari ever end? Looking at Nisio's previous works, I bet he will end it sooner. He is not the kind of writer that likes to prolong a franchise when it is time to put down the curtain. Besides Monogatari, didn't he has another series he's currently working on? Densetsu series I supposed. |
Dec 14, 2013 9:59 AM
#46
yukaru00 said: Not a series but sounds interesting, a lippogram novel I wasn't aware of it until CDJapan kindly made me aware of it and I added it to my early January order...hpulley said: yukaru00 said: Yes, Owarimonogatari was supposed to be done this year. Oops...hpulley said: yukaru00 said: The atogaki did not lie... I suspect he knew it from the beginning. I don't think Nisio screws up... he's had this planned for years.In the end, Owari got that 中巻 volume, and planned to be released on 31 January 2014. Nisio has screwed up again. And this means we get three Vofan covers instead of 2! I don't mind paying 1500 yen each, worth every 円 to me. Haha, by screwed up I mean he is not able to meet the previous dateline for Ougi Dark which supposed to be around this month. So, how many volumes will Zokuowarimonogatari be, I wonder? 2? 3 again? Will it be the last volume? Will Monogatari ever end? Looking at Nisio's previous works, I bet he will end it sooner. He is not the kind of writer that likes to prolong a franchise when it is time to put down the curtain. Besides Monogatari, didn't he has another series he's currently working on? Densetsu series I supposed. NEOBK-1602564 NISIO ISIN (Nishio Ishin)/Ripogura(Kondansha Novels) BOOK 900 yen US$9/104.06 Release Date:2014/01/07 http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/d.html?KEY=NEOBK-1602564 Hisanden? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-1515121 Himeiden same series? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-1221813 |
hpulleyDec 14, 2013 10:10 AM
Dec 14, 2013 10:37 AM
#47
hpulley said: Hisanden? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-1515121 Himeiden same series? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-1221813 Yeah. Himeiden, Hisanden and Hitsuuden. These are from the Densetsu series Nisio has been working on currently besides Monogatari. |
Dec 14, 2013 11:50 AM
#48
Yep, as expected. And I think extending Owari is a good decision because Ougi Dark and Koyomi book alone wouldn't be enough to wrap everything up IMO. Betting that Zokuowari is also going to be a trilogy. Anyway, any information about the plot of the upcoming novel? |
Dec 21, 2013 7:30 AM
#49
Yeah, it will reveal what had happened After Oni and before the end of Neko Shiro. source: http://bookclub.kodansha.co.jp/kodansha-box/topics/nishio/ |
Dec 21, 2013 7:39 AM
#50
Jeez, finally! But what is up with the order of the books... while I want to know what happens there, it's the time from that certain day in March in Koyomimonogatari and the start of Hanamonogatari that we really need to know about, right??? Will that be in Owari Down or Zokuowari?? |
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