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Jan 29, 2013 5:21 PM

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Ooh. Aladdin's finally back. We will finally see the Solomon's Wisdom!!
I thought he will transfer magoi to Alibaba and he will equip Amon completely.

Feels like this arc is dragging on for too long.
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Candor said:
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..I don't particularly care for any of the characters...
That's because A-1 didn't bother to give the characters any characterization and they made the villain seem not important and just normal characters that they didn't leave any first impression, Kassim namely, and the previous villains like Jamil and Fatima. They're just skimming through the chapters (71 chapters in 16 episodes, yeah). Oh and guess who's responsible for the series composition.


I was looking for SAO Composition writer there, but i found Guilty Crown instead!!!
You noticed the similarities, didn't you? A-1 turned Magi into a mix of Guilty Crown and SAO actually: an annoying brat (voiced by Kaji Yuki) with the plot revolving around him while all the other characters turned into plot-devices without any importance or relevance to the story other than helping the MC. Even Morgiana, she became mere fan-service, and she's the only reason most Magi anime-viewers are still watching the show. Though the only difference with SAO and GC is that Magi has shit animation.

What a pity. Here are my hopes for a remake after a couple of years, with a decent studio adapting Magi and giving it what it deserves.


Noticed long ago, but hoping it wasn't going to be like that. I still like the show overall though it's about an 8ish for me, depending on the series end.
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I feel really bad, as I was hoping this adaption would be better so I wouldn't have to catch up with the manga (like with HxH). Then again, Madhouse is a much more competent studio. It's like A-1 blew their whole budget on SAO.

This episode wasn't absolutely horrible, but the pacing and animation suffer more here than other episodes. I hope this picks up more in the next arc.
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Either way, the arc should end next week and the next arc is more of a light-hearted fun arc in Sindria, so things should be better.
Jan 29, 2013 7:19 PM

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You'd think if they decided to put a bit more effort into certain parts of the anime they'd do it for this ep. I'd been waiting for this ep since the anime started.

Honestly, I've never been one to complain or overly care TOO MUCH about faults in anime adaptations. You can never expect it to be the same. I was one who defended this adaptation cause up until this episode they generally did a pretty decent job, but gee everything fell down like an avalanche in this. The moment I saw how ridiculously bad Morgiana's kick on the black Djinn I knew the rest wasn't going to be good.

And yeah, as somebody pointed out, what the hell did they do with the music? It's not like they are whispering and we can't hear. This anime has a great soundtrack, why have so many scenes in a single ep with no music?

Anyway time to get on with it, hopefully they don't butcher Alibaba and Kassim's part in the next episode. They probably will, I was expecting the whole Soloman's Wisdom bit to look AMAZING but they made it look lame. Aladdin's pose at the end didn't make him look awesome at all like it did in the manga.

They better do the Sinbad/Kougyoku bit well!
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Candor said:
Morgiana, she became mere fan-service, and she's the only reason most Magi anime-viewers are still watching the show. Though the only difference with SAO and GC is that Magi has shit animation.

I...I...feel ashamed to admit so, but she is one of the prime reasons I love this show...
Damn you nailed it good.
No wonder I'm so blinded by the poor adaptation of this anime, I fangirl too much when I see Morgiana .-.

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Jan 29, 2013 7:42 PM

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This wasn't the best episode, but it was pretty good i guess.
Jan 29, 2013 7:56 PM
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Tavor said:
Candor said:
Morgiana, she became mere fan-service, and she's the only reason most Magi anime-viewers are still watching the show. Though the only difference with SAO and GC is that Magi has shit animation.

I...I...feel ashamed to admit so, but she is one of the prime reasons I love this show...
Damn you nailed it good.
No wonder I'm so blinded by the poor adaptation of this anime, I fangirl too much when I see Morgiana .-.
I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing, Morgiana is a great character, so are all the Fanalis that appeared till now in the series, but while reading the manga the focus wasn't only on Morgiana or the Fanalis.

Magi is about the world in general and the world building, the foreshadowing, the politics and the relationship between the countries, the poverty and the slavery, the problem of the world and the hooded men, Sinbad's motivation (in the manga he was shown as a guy who is neither a bad guy nor a good guy, his motivations were doubted, and they are till now, unlike in the anime), Judal and his role as a Magi who is supposed to be a guidance for people (he's shown in the anime as a typical generic villain), Alibaba's BAness (no, he wasn't a pussy like he is in the anime, since when KajiYuki is involved the chances of becoming a pussy is x100), the secrets of the world and Aladdin's wisdom and Solomon (that part had no impact whatsoever in the anime, because of skipping stuff and rushing), the cultures involved in creating the world of Magi..etc

A-1 decided to just throw everything out of the window and animate at a x5 speed to animate the most amount of material they can animate, while messing up the world and cutting and adding as they see fit (they skipped some really important world-related stuff, like the mess of the first chapters). The result was underdeveloped characters, none of them is interesting anymore, they ruined 3 of the villain through the rushing too, the world also became bland and uninteresting. It's just that nothing had any impact because of the fast pace and horrible animation, and I had forgotten what happened in the manga to begin with, so what I watched in the anime was somehow new info, yet they had literally no impact.
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Candor said:
Tavor said:
Candor said:
Morgiana, she became mere fan-service, and she's the only reason most Magi anime-viewers are still watching the show. Though the only difference with SAO and GC is that Magi has shit animation.

I...I...feel ashamed to admit so, but she is one of the prime reasons I love this show...
Damn you nailed it good.
No wonder I'm so blinded by the poor adaptation of this anime, I fangirl too much when I see Morgiana .-.
I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing, Morgiana is a great character, so are all the Fanalis that appeared till now in the series, but while reading the manga the focus wasn't only on Morgiana or the Fanalis.

Magi is about the world in general and the world building, the foreshadowing, the politics and the relationship between the countries, the poverty and the slavery, the problem of the world and the hooded men, Sinbad's motivation (in the manga he was shown as a guy who is neither a bad guy nor a good guy, his motivations were doubted, and they are till now, unlike in the anime), Judal and his role as a Magi who is supposed to be a guidance for people (he's shown in the anime as a typical generic villain), Alibaba's BAness (no, he wasn't a pussy like he is in the anime, since when KajiYuki is involved the chances of becoming a pussy is x100), the secrets of the world and Aladdin's wisdom and Solomon (that part had no impact whatsoever in the anime, because of skipping stuff and rushing), the cultures involved in creating the world of Magi..etc

A-1 decided to just throw everything out of the window and animate at a x5 speed to animate the most amount of material they can animate, while messing up the world and cutting and adding as they see fit (they skipped some really important world-related stuff, like the mess of the first chapters). The result was underdeveloped characters, none of them is interesting anymore, they ruined 3 of the villain through the rushing too, the world also became bland and uninteresting. It's just that nothing had any impact because of the fast pace and horrible animation, and I had forgotten what happened in the manga to begin with, so what I watched in the anime was somehow new info, yet they had literally no impact.


the anime is great i didnt read the manga nor do i care about the manga im glad there trying to make this anime small instead of 400 episodes , i didnt read the manga but this anime is probs the best this year the story and animation i feel have been amazing

if u dislike the anime
go read the manga again im sick of people like u complaining and comparing it to the manga

i dont feel any rush in this anime
compared to sword art online that was a mess time skip / action wise

this anime is amazing at not rushing stuff and gets u excited for each episode
Jan 29, 2013 11:00 PM

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Did Kassim's position inside the black djinn remind anyone else of
in DGM?

I have no problem with Alibaba being hesitant to kill Kassim. Sure it's a bit annoying, but understandable nonetheless.
Jan 29, 2013 11:43 PM

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the anime is great i didnt read the manga nor do i care about the manga im glad there trying to make this anime small instead of 400 episodes , i didnt read the manga but this anime is probs the best this year the story and animation i feel have been amazing

if u dislike the anime
go read the manga again im sick of people like u complaining and comparing it to the manga

i dont feel any rush in this anime
compared to sword art online that was a mess time skip / action wise

this anime is amazing at not rushing stuff and gets u excited for each episode

It could have been a lot worse, and I have seen, but I never had a massive problem with the anime aside from this episode. I thought it'd be hard to mess this episode up but they did lol.

Including the extra details wouldn't have made it THAT much longer either, which is what people are complaining about, a few more episodes was never going to hurt anyone. The manga hasn't been out all that long which makes it even more puzzling that they are rushing things.

Curious to see how next week turns out, it's not like I'm going to drop the anime cause I still enjoy it. Everything comes with its disappointments.
Jan 30, 2013 1:51 AM

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antonnn said:
Calumz said:
the anime is great i didnt read the manga nor do i care about the manga im glad there trying to make this anime small instead of 400 episodes , i didnt read the manga but this anime is probs the best this year the story and animation i feel have been amazing

if u dislike the anime
go read the manga again im sick of people like u complaining and comparing it to the manga

i dont feel any rush in this anime
compared to sword art online that was a mess time skip / action wise

this anime is amazing at not rushing stuff and gets u excited for each episode

It could have been a lot worse, and I have seen, but I never had a massive problem with the anime aside from this episode. I thought it'd be hard to mess this episode up but they did lol.

Including the extra details wouldn't have made it THAT much longer either, which is what people are complaining about, a few more episodes was never going to hurt anyone. The manga hasn't been out all that long which makes it even more puzzling that they are rushing things.

Curious to see how next week turns out, it's not like I'm going to drop the anime cause I still enjoy it. Everything comes with its disappointments.


Somebody needs to detonate a bomb at A-1's headquarters.

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Jan 30, 2013 3:02 AM
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Calumz said:
the anime is great i didnt read the manga nor do i care about the manga im glad there trying to make this anime small instead of 400 episodes , i didnt read the manga but this anime is probs the best this year the story and animation i feel have been amazing

if u dislike the anime
go read the manga again im sick of people like u complaining and comparing it to the manga

i dont feel any rush in this anime
compared to sword art online that was a mess time skip / action wise

this anime is amazing at not rushing stuff and gets u excited for each episode
People liked SAO too. And thanks for the advice, I'm already rereading it and enjoying the amazing artwork, amazing world-building with the Bazaar stuff in another country in the first chapter that was skipped, foreshadowing that was also skipped in the anime, the interesting characters and Aladdin's awesomeness that the anime didn't show:

Alibaba's thrill which was taken over by KajiYuki's annoying voice:

The character interactions between Alibaba and Aladdin which was also skipped, or most of them was (the narration was also removed, but that's understandable to an extent):


Must..stop.. or else I'd bring the whole fucking manga to this thread, since A-1 didn't do ANYTHING right from the beginning (except the soundtracks, that's Sagisu Shiro for you), but yeah, I guess that's just me, and most other manga readers

So, I hope you enjoy the rest of the anime (the next arcs should be more interesting), while I enjoy the manga instead.
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^Candor, I understand your frustration about the differences between Magi anime and manga. Though all those manga panels you post above have nothing to do with episode 16. Please post your complains in another thread in the forum and not in the actual episode topic.

That goes for other people too. I think the hate/black rukh energy is taking over here, it's getting annoying.

THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Yeah, I guess I fanboyed enough to release all the frustration and disappointment, I guess I should stop now.
Jan 30, 2013 8:15 AM

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Pretty weak episode compared to what they could have done. Too slow, badly-paced battle.

Jan 30, 2013 9:26 AM

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It was fine
Jan 30, 2013 12:52 PM
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I've long since accepted that A-1 was the wrong studio to be in charge of Magi's adaption (or SAO's for that matter) therefore I won't even bother complaining. Was the episode good? By all means no. Yet why did I watch it? For consistency's sake I suppose; to see if a proper adaption was possible somehow. The only thing I'm still pissed about regarding the anime, is that I had to buy the first BD volume in order to get the limited manga volume about Sinbad that comes with it...
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Jan 30, 2013 4:49 PM

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I'm wondering where the fuck the budget went for this show
Jan 30, 2013 5:26 PM

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Wow the rage... was it really that bad o_o
I felt it was like any other episodes...
Jan 30, 2013 6:50 PM

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Hmm... I guess the poor quality wasn't so poor as to catch my eye too much. I think the only thing I had a problem with was the slow dramatic music with a slow battle, the extremely poor animation/art around 18:55 with Judal's face, and... well I guess that is all. Aside from that, I'll admit this wasn't the best episode, but it was, at the very least, a decent one.
Jan 30, 2013 8:36 PM

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this feels like it is dragging on
Jan 30, 2013 9:48 PM
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Alibaba is such a moronic pussy, one minute is he quivering in his shoes and the other minute smacking his stupid face into the ground trying to be a hero when the odds are against him. He would rather see Kassim slaughter everyone he knows than get his hands dirty. Although I wouldn't be surprised that he has Stockholm Syndrome considering that Kassim back stabs him at every opportunity.

Naruto did it better.

I registed just to rant about this poor turn of events.
Jan 30, 2013 9:56 PM

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my new fav,new long run series..i dunno why but i really like morgiana :)..

i dont know why others complain with animation.. i didnt see a problem with it.. this is not a 12/25 ep series, this might be a long run 50ep or more.. so theres no need for a perfect the art. i like its art compare to the current art of naruto and fairytail..

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Jan 31, 2013 2:20 AM

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i dont know why others complain with animation.. i didnt see a problem with it.. this is not a 12/25 ep series, this might be a long run 50ep or more.. so theres no need for a perfect the art. i like its art compare to the current art of naruto and fairytail..

Unless Magi is changing time slots it will probably end this April, it's time slot is being given to another show.
Source
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/5th-yamato-2199-film-tv-premiere-slated-for-april

And trust me it's not just the art, how it was entirely handled is poor to say the least. The intensity, animosity of all the characters were non existent and that's putting it lightly........... F-ing A-1
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Num1dad_Asura said:
Dark_Messiah said:
i dont know why others complain with animation.. i didnt see a problem with it.. this is not a 12/25 ep series, this might be a long run 50ep or more.. so theres no need for a perfect the art. i like its art compare to the current art of naruto and fairytail..

Unless Magi is changing time slots it will probably end this April, it's time slot is being given to another show.
Source
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/5th-yamato-2199-film-tv-premiere-slated-for-april

And trust me it's not just the art, how it was entirely handled is poor to say the least. The intensity, animosity of all the characters were no existent and that's putting it lightly........... F-ing A-1

ahh i know what u mean there..

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What th....
I reread the chapters .. Alibaba WAS willing to kil the dimon
Damn them! They ruined the characters that I start thinking of remove Ali from my favorites "==

And others .. I can't agree more
Jan 31, 2013 7:47 AM
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Aw Judal you're no match for Aladdin :P
But I like him XD
Jan 31, 2013 7:05 PM

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Morgiana.

Still best character.
Jan 31, 2013 9:57 PM

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Dark_Messiah said:
i dont know why others complain with animation.. i didnt see a problem with it.. this is not a 12/25 ep series, this might be a long run 50ep or more.. so theres no need for a perfect the art. i like its art compare to the current art of naruto and fairytail..


The issue was the lack of impact with OST during when it was needed. The over-use of still/repeated frames where it shouldn't be used, and the big art quality drops. I haven't read the manga, but i know they are cutting corners like mad.

In Uchuu Kyoudai, A-1 got that shit down, however that's a slice of life, this just shows they can't do action.
Feb 1, 2013 12:03 AM

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An okay episode.

Also, What chapter in the manga is this episode? I'm planning to read it soon.
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An okay episode.

Also, What chapter in the manga is this episode? I'm planning to read it soon.
Read from the beginning, you'll notice the changes and the skipping A-1 did from the 1st chapter (which was also skipped).
Though if you don't want to for some reason, this episode covered until chapter 70 or 71.
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Candor said:
AceFlonne said:
An okay episode.

Also, What chapter in the manga is this episode? I'm planning to read it soon.
Read from the beginning, you'll notice the changes and the skipping A-1 did from the 1st chapter (which was also skipped).
Though if you don't want to for some reason, this episode covered until chapter 70 or 71.


Thanks,I'm planning to read it from the beginning but I want to know which chapter is this episode.
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AceFlonne said:
Candor said:
AceFlonne said:
An okay episode.

Also, What chapter in the manga is this episode? I'm planning to read it soon.
Read from the beginning, you'll notice the changes and the skipping A-1 did from the 1st chapter (which was also skipped).
Though if you don't want to for some reason, this episode covered until chapter 70 or 71.


Thanks,I'm planning to read it from the beginning but I want to know which chapter is this episode.


Episode 16 is covering chapter 69-72 of the manga.
Feb 1, 2013 11:20 PM

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I know is the essence of shounen manga/anime but the episode was really predictable.

What i liked the most was Kimura Ryouhei's voice and that soundtrack, it really is amazing! Well, let's see if this develops different but i expect Judal to "lose" and promise revenge, the country to be peaceful again and so on...

Prove me wrong anime or at least try to change the classic escenary a little. Las episode was amazing and now this one is just so cliché.

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Wow, these past few episodes have been really cool and filled with action! It's really epic now that Aladdin has appeared, I can't wait to see how the battle unfolds and hopefully to see Alibaba reign victorious over Judal.
5/5.

Feb 2, 2013 10:06 AM

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Kill Alibaba, whiny little biatch who can't do shiet. Ep was medicore.
Feb 2, 2013 11:59 AM

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Pretty boring this time... I get the impression that Magi's worse and worse. I loved the beggining - especially all eps about labyrinth, but since this Arc it's so damn average... Hope it'll change. If not I'm dropping it.

Oh, and earlier Alibaba was freakin awesome. Actually my fav character. Now he's kinda annoying. =3= Maybe it's anime fault cause I don't have this feeling in the manga...?
Feb 2, 2013 2:27 PM

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Great episode though I didn't like Aladdin's entrance and Kassim is officially dead now kinda sort of but I just want them to get to the next arc.
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alibaba is my favorite character, but in the anime he looks stupid and very annoying.
in the manga he is the most developed character.
he is very interesting and most of manga reader want to see his development.

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I've long since accepted that A-1 was the wrong studio to be in charge of Magi's adaption


agree.. :) I just watch this because the merchandise will come out after an anime adaptation.

Veneficae said:
What th....
I reread the chapters .. Alibaba WAS willing to kil the dimon
Damn them! They ruined the characters that I start thinking of remove Ali from my favorites "==

And others .. I can't agree more


yeah, that's true...
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I havent watched all the episode with subs but.. jeez, i get what all the complanings about.
what on earth were they thinking, no exiting backround music and slow still animation.. they were probably just being lazy.
They sort of wimpified Alibaba, making him seem so much more weak willed than in the manga.. I just dont understand these desicions.
Hes my favorite character so its kind of painful lol.
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I really tried to get immersed in the story... I REALLY TRIED!
Usually bad production don't affect me; I'm more of a story person.

Gah... I really want to like this series. But after reading the manga, I simply cannot disregard the difference in experience. One was phenomenal, and the other mediocre.

In all honesty, I understand how difficult to execute the balbadd arc, and I really hope that they are simply shifting effort into later episodes.

Fingers crossed.
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I probably wont watch the anime until the next arc. Alibaba obsession with Kassim is damn annoying. I just know the next arc is funny as hell. I hope we dont get an original ending.

So true, and I was starting to like Alibaba too, too bad..
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He's been pierced in the back by two ginormous spikes, he's coughing up blood, and he's been thrown about twenty metres onto a hard surface, and somehow miraculously not only survived but maintained both consciousness and sanity...

... and your reaction is to ask "are you alright?" with a mild look of concern on your face, Morgiana?
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Kassim just needs to die already, why is Alibaba being such a pussy?
Judal needs to die as well, but I guess he's the antagonist, at least for now.
I'm looking forward to more, really intense stuff is happening here.
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Die, Kassim, Die. I'm getting sick of your bullshit.

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I probably wont watch the anime until the next arc. Alibaba obsession with Kassim is damn annoying. I just know the next arc is funny as hell. I hope we dont get an original ending.

So true, and I was starting to like Alibaba too, too bad..

^THIS. So much this.

I still like Alibaba, but he tries my patience.

Characters consistently awesome= Judal, Morgiana and Sinbad.
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Aghh, the annoying as hell Judal character is back. Please let him die soon.
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May 9, 2013 9:58 PM

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Somehow I was expecting this to be a bit more epic but the anime kinda went for either really slow/still scenes and slow dramatic music. Kinda ruined Aladdin's entrance...

I actually agree with this.

Don't get me wrong, it was still good, just could have been better. Maybe the last episode set the bar way too high? xD
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Fuck he's back, but well Aladdin is back as well and epic than ever! Well a nice episode in general, some great fighting scenes, so lets see what's next!
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Judal appearence in this episode upgraded his status from "Villian" to "Generic Shounen Villian"
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