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Mar 6, 2012 5:08 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST.
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Soooo That’s how it ends… Hm well Its great that everything ended in peace, and I like how every character had a strong story for each..I would recommend this for more patient people that like elongated suspense..I have nothing else I can think about other than how nice this was sometimes so until next time!

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But my feels.
Mar 9, 2012 5:18 PM
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well......i just finished the greatest manga ever written....i feel empty on the inside now....is it really over? im gonna miss these characters so much

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

May 15, 2012 7:35 AM
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Such a satisfying read. It's not as deep as Monster or quite as refined but it's still a hell of a story and one of my favorite manga. Re-reading the whole story again has been a really trip I have to say. It's really awesome how Urasawa takes all the sci-fi and manga hero tropes then twists them into a more realistic form. It makes for a really unpredictable read.

Anyway, 20th Century Boys is an easy 9 out of 10 for me and 21st Century Boys is an 8 out of 10 because it still doesn't quite answer all the questions that are left over. Although in a story so big and spanning so much time it would be almost impossible for the there to be no left over questions.

Well the only thing left to say is Gutlala Sudalala!
Jun 26, 2013 7:33 AM
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So Katsumata was the Friend, I hoped it was someone more important. Still, it was amazing, this was certainly one of the best mangas I've ever read. It will be hard to find something to replace it.
Aug 4, 2013 6:23 PM
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So I guess this is the end then ... Well first wanna talk about the last chapter, I am assuming that him and Yukiji never got together then? That is somewhat sad (like romance) but oh well ... And I guess the main evil was something that could have been prevented perhaps ...


Anyways as for this little continuation, I think it was much needed after the end of 20th century boys (mainly it shows who the new friend was) but also for a few other reasons ... However I think there were still some flaws with the series that prevent me from giving it a 9 or 10. Mainly among them include things like what exactly Kanna's powers were as I feel they were just put in there and poorly explained, as well as things like what happened to the rest of friend's original party, why was the second friend brought in only later and felt he had to pretend to be Fukubei, etc. ... I dunno, just a few things here and there but overall a great series.
Aug 5, 2013 3:31 PM
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well this was def a more satisfying conclusion than 20th century boys. even if we don't really get any info on the other friend, i'm assuming he's just some random boy in the school with no friends who wants to be like fukube.

also i definitely think kenji ends up with yukiji. does urasawa really need to spell it out explicitly? come on.
Aug 27, 2013 11:36 AM
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I like how the author revealed Katsumata to be "Friend" and then ended the manga right there. It's like he's saying "I told you everything, the fuck should I write more?".
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Dec 4, 2013 9:52 PM
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10/10
I count 20th and 21st Century Boys as a whole (like it should be imho).
I will really miss it, I swear I "marathoned" it in less than five days, this hooked me up so bad that now I feel a little kind of empty. Just like Monster.

Pirating_Ninja said:
So I guess this is the end then ... Well first wanna talk about the last chapter, I am assuming that him and Yukiji never got together then? That is somewhat sad (like romance) but oh well

What? I think it's pretty clear that they end together, didn't you notice both of them blushing in the chapter 15? Kenji just said that after his tour, he will confess properly to Yukiji.
Apr 14, 2014 6:47 AM
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And so it ends for real. What a ride. The first 150 chapters or so are amongst the best stuff ever in a manga. Towards the end it lost a bit of steam in my estimation but it was still a heck of a ride.

In some ways it reminded me of Old Boy: how a seemingly childish misunderstanding or slight can have colossal consequences for the future.
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Apr 19, 2014 10:31 AM

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A grand end to an epic manga. It's a bit of a shame it went a bit wayward after 140 chapters or so. But still a very good read.
An 8/10 for 20th CB.
A 7/10 for 21st CB.
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May 6, 2014 7:29 PM

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20thCB was awesome a 9/10

21stCB was cool 7/10

I guess in the end friendship is indeed important
May 24, 2014 3:10 AM

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Well this stupid. Having another friend was unnecessary and just dragged everything and extend the story enough for Kenji to be involved, and it was quite the asspull. I felt like it ruined Friend's character a little bit, it literally came out of nowhere.

Oh well. 6.5-7/10. Would have been 8/10 if Kenji and Yukiji had a better scene or more screen time.
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What the heck, that mother daughter reunion was trash.
Jun 28, 2014 11:32 AM

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It KIND OF pulled a Death Note after original Friend died. :/ Obviously, Death Note isn't as good as this series, but it kind of reminded me of how Death Note


Yeah, but good series. 7/10 for this, and a definite 8 for the original series. I just feel like there's still so many questions unanswered and it was so rushed in these last few volumes.

I feel like I would have liked this entire series more as an anime rather than manga. Kenji should be voiced by Hirata Hiroaki no doubt!!! :) Miyata Kouki for Yoshitsune. Miyano Mamoru for Fukube (obviouslyyy). Fumiko Orikasa for Yukiji. Haruka Tomatsu for Kanna.
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I have read this manga this year 2014. Great Art and story indeed; especially the romance of Yukiji and Kenji; their love story is more romantic than Shoujo manga LOL.
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Aug 1, 2014 5:15 AM

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I just wish it would have shown us katsumata-kun's face.
Aug 9, 2014 8:34 AM

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Sep 14, 2014 3:29 PM
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MonsterOtaku said:


Do you remember the chapter number specifically?
Oct 2, 2014 11:33 PM

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Great ride. I don't see the point of separating the two, so both 20th and 21st will be receiving the same score as it is all one story.
Now I have to go and search out all the stuff they were saying about Katsumata.
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20thCB was awesome a 9/10

21stCB was cool 7/10

I guess in the end friendship is indeed important


This is what I think as well. Somewhat underwhelming imo compared to the original but still a enjoyable ride towards the end. Damn, I'm going to miss this series. Might even check out the movies...
Feb 9, 2015 1:30 AM

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Nice ride and everything ended well
Jun 12, 2015 5:03 PM

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Aw, I was hoping to see a sweeter ending between Kenji and Yukiji. Still pretty good though. 7/10 for this 2-volume sequel.
Jun 25, 2015 2:39 AM

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I reread the entire series and liked the ending more than before. Because I noticed something critical to this manga.
I always wondered why the manga had this name. The name "20th Century Boys" appears in several chapters. But most important appearance is in the first chapter where Kenji says "We thought something would change, but nothing changed." when referring to him playing the T-Rex song in lunchtime. Well he was wrong. Something had changed. Katsumata decided not to suicide after hearing the song. Kenji saved a friend's life. That touched my heart.
Oct 16, 2015 10:22 AM

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finally finished this series

I valued 20th and 21st as one series.

Some people doesn't like when the antagonist coming from the dead, but in this one I really really like when Urasawa choose Katsumata as the main culprit.

It adds more value to the manga, the reason why he did such as thing make more reasonable impact than Fukubei motive. The feeling as completely unnoticeable person, as a trash whose his name has ruined since childhood. That was different from Sadakiyo case, at least he has the teacher who he can sent the letter.

I can accept the reason why Kiriko stay away from his daughter going to Africa, she still feeling guilty about bloody new years eve; leaving Kanna since child; and it is her nature, remember when she said she want more become like Yukiji, more womanly.

The only complain maybe when Kanna suddenly use her power more often in the last few chapters than in the entire rest of series. It feels like cheating.

And whose the body they found in Sadakiyo car when it's burned?

This was a good series, but I can't be rushed to finished it because it feels boring/exhausted after too much puzzle streak in 3-4 chapters without a single clue were given.

The ending was good, how is the petty thing can change your life or the others, forever.

Glad I read it.
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definition of perfection 10/10
Jun 1, 2016 3:04 AM

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Will never understand why this exists, by which I mean it shouldn't have been a sequel since it could've (should've) been the final two volumes of the original.
Nov 12, 2016 8:32 AM
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Katsumata!?
Well, new age for the bowlings, finally!!!

Beautiful last chapter, great last book, full of mistery and action.
20th Century Boys was more complete, but 21th Century Boys was the explosion...855/1000.
Jun 15, 2020 8:02 AM
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Has anyone read new ending from the newest version published in 2016? How much does it vary from previous version?
Aug 13, 2020 9:25 AM

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The author never answered who it was that had the girl tied up and played the song from chapter 1 of 20th centuary boys?
Aug 13, 2020 12:59 PM
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I have a really serious doubt. I am from Spain, and I read the whole series in an edition published by a publisher called Planeta Comics. This chapter is slightly different from other versions of it I found online. In the version I read after Kenji asked the masked kid if he was Katsumata, he apologisies to him and explained that he was the kid all people thought had died before a science experiment, and also says that Fukubee was actually the one who died.

Can Simeone please confirm me if this was a revision Urasawa did some time after publishing the manga originally or wtf, cos Fukubbe clearly died after Yamane shot him, so things dont add up.
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i thought that was fukubei
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Jan 18, 2021 1:36 AM
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Well that's it I guess ? That was a good read, intriguing and endearing manga, not the best manga ever by any mean. But great manga for sure.

21st helped the manga having a good ending even though it feels kinda rushed.
So it was Katsumata huh ? We're just gonna have that news and the manga's over hahahah ? I'm glad Kenji saved his life tho

This manga is 8/10.
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i thought that was fukubei


It was Fukubei, but Katsumata was there too, between Maruo and Yotshisune I think
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In the new ultimative edtion Kenji guesses that Fukubei has been dead since grade school and Katsumata took his place but that doesnt make much sense since Fukubei died in 2015 or am I wrong?
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Well this stupid. Having another friend was unnecessary and just dragged everything and extend the story enough for Kenji to be involved, and it was quite the asspull. I felt like it ruined Friend's character a little bit, it literally came out of nowhere.

Oh well. 6.5-7/10. Would have been 8/10 if Kenji and Yukiji had a better scene or more screen time.

You clearly ignored the first chapter where teen Kanna saw a giant robot after waking up, which is exactly the same scene which we saw in the last few chapters of 20th CB. If you think it was an asspull then you havent digged deep enough
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well this was def a more satisfying conclusion than 20th century boys. even if we don't really get any info on the other friend, i'm assuming he's just some random boy in the school with no friends who wants to be like fukube.

also i definitely think kenji ends up with yukiji. does urasawa really need to spell it out explicitly? come on.

You're definitely right I feel the proposal quote in chapter 3 cemented that as long as Kenji stopped the anti-proton bomb and came out of the VR alive.
Feb 1, 2022 11:08 AM

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Kazmi said:
The author never answered who it was that had the girl tied up and played the song from chapter 1 of 20th centuary boys?


Was that important though?
Jun 5, 2022 2:39 PM

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Yeah this sucked.
Jul 3, 2022 8:25 AM

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Thank god that I read this before judging 20th CB ending, the ending is much clearer, more memorable, and solved the biggest mystery: "who is the 2nd Friend?". I think Naoki could do it better but for 2 volumes, I'm satisfied, thank you Urasawa and goodbye all of 20th CB

7.75/10

Jul 12, 2022 2:16 AM

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Given how convoluted the whole thriller intrigue became, those final chapters presented as an appendix were unnecessarily long and yet quite uneventful. It was still fun to get some more pages with the characters.

4/5

Score for the whole XXIst tome: 6/10
Jul 14, 2022 12:33 PM
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Katsumata who was that? Was that the kid that was supposed to be dead or something?
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Kazmi said:
The author never answered who it was that had the girl tied up and played the song from chapter 1 of 20th centuary boys?

Lol it was "answered" since the start, it was Kenji.
The last chapter just wrap that strange start briliantly, that action of Kenji did have impact to the world.

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I have a really serious doubt. I am from Spain, and I read the whole series in an edition published by a publisher called Planeta Comics. This chapter is slightly different from other versions of it I found online. In the version I read after Kenji asked the masked kid if he was Katsumata, he apologisies to him and explained that he was the kid all people thought had died before a science experiment, and also says that Fukubee was actually the one who died.

Can Simeone please confirm me if this was a revision Urasawa did some time after publishing the manga originally or wtf, cos Fukubbe clearly died after Yamane shot him, so things dont add up.

Hmm.. maybe you misremember the live action? Because the live action changed the plot to be like you described.
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neutrals said:

i thought that was fukubei


It was Fukubei, but Katsumata was there too, between Maruo and Yotshisune I think

It was other random classmate. That is very likely that Katsumata changed his face to be like Fukubei since long time ago before the story started. There were 2 Friend since the start.
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Nov 29, 2022 2:27 PM

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This was a great ending for the manga. I don't really remeber Katsumata, but he might have not even been in any of the previous chapters. Anyways 9/10.
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This was a great ending for the manga. I don't really remeber Katsumata, but he might have not even been in any of the previous chapters. Anyways 9/10.

Yes, Kataumata's face is never shown in the manga. The only time we are hinted at his existence in "20th century boys" is when young Kiriko was talking to Sadakiyo and wondered who the other kid with the mask is.
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The mother and daughter reunion was so lacklustre. This is one of my biggest gripes. I wish they embraced or did something more heartfelt. Kiriko is quite frankly a bad mother, I understand her not being present for most of the story as she was constructing the vaccine, but to leave after 'Friend' was seemly defeated without meeting her own daughter and brother, that's just horrible.
Jan 15, 2023 1:19 AM
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Amazing conclusion and finale
Feb 2, 2023 6:35 PM
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Well this stupid. Having another friend was unnecessary and just dragged everything and extend the story enough for Kenji to be involved, and it was quite the asspull. I felt like it ruined Friend's character a little bit, it literally came out of nowhere.

Oh well. 6.5-7/10. Would have been 8/10 if Kenji and Yukiji had a better scene or more screen time.

That's the established story. You have no right to decide what is needed or not. Then don't read it. It's like you're saying that the whole story is pointless.
Feb 7, 2023 5:53 AM
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Seeing Kenji and Katsumata sing together was heartwarming. Plus Katsumata finally took off his mask! I'm sure that only happened in the virtual world. In the real world Katsumata never spoke to Kenji after he canceled his suicide attempt. That's why they never became friends in the real world. He's just like Kenji. Both of them regret not being able to say the things they wanted to say.
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Very very amazing, Katsumata plot twist cool
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