| After asking grok what I see is some localization changes mendokusai (what a drag) to some profanity in the dub for Fern. Apparently Fern is supposed to be polite. I generally remain skeptical on dubs because of censorship and inserting "the message." |
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| I mentioned it several times before, but the decision to make Frieren sound like a granny in the dub because "she is 1k years old" and apparently her only body part that ages are her vocal cords is so stupid I'm actually baffled. It so damn obvious that people behind the dub know absolutely nothing about the source material if they just look at the character's chronological age and thought "yup, she must sound like an old woman" without even considering how character looks end behaves. And dub fans defending this firmly convinced me that they are simply out of touch. |
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| Uhh... maybe because a lot of weebs are elitist snobs? It's not really that complicated. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Lol, idk why you get banned for it, but yeah. You can watch whatever you want to watch and like whatever you want to like. But yeah i hate dub too, the only anime i watch dub is Dragon ball z/super. (obviously due to insane voice acting skills) The reason is cuz VA for anime is a huge thing in japan, it's like a career culture. actors go through a lot to get gigs, to sound like the character, fit their personality, deliver the right emotions, Dub doesn't do it, it doesn't have to be english dub, it can be any different language dub. It sounds shit to me and in fact a friend of mine when she was younger i tried to get anime, i showed her attack on titan and i told her to watch with sub, she didn't listen and decided to watch in english dub, she then came to me and asked me why Eren sounds like a cry baby and i said "what?" she then told me she watched english dub, and i forced her to re-watch it in sub, she was hooked on anime ever since. |
Reply to FreedomKME
You are free to be wrong and have bad tastes, but don't expect to be celebrated for it.
| @FreedomKME I didn't know you could be wrong about a personal preference, how fascinating. Do tell us more. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Charleeiza said: Frieren is one of 20 at most anime where I love the dub more but whenever I express this people immediately spam or banned me from the site I'm on I understand you may not like it but i don't understand people are so angry when people like the English dubbed for an anime I'm not trying to have hate I genuinely want to know what's the thought process getting banned for loving dub crazy |
| Sounds like you probably need to get a longer ban. |
| There is of course a mental capacity dimension. I am just speculating, but reading subtitles likely require a mental load that significantly interferes with both visual and verbal enjoyment of the anime. Personally, I notice that I lose out on a substantial amount of visual animation due to focusing on subtitles, and I miss nuances, backgrounds etc, even after multiple re-watches. Then you have inner speech, where a lot of people speak internally as they read. For whom subs might be a deal breaker, as their inner voice could clash with the anime voice actors' and thus detract from the enjoyment of a sub. And third, again a speculation, if a sub lover watches a dubbed anime, they might have trouble switching to a sub, especially if they get mentally attached to the original. Music might be like this too, where once you start anticipating a music tune, everything else will sound kinda false. I am personally a 100% sub watcher, and relatively new to anime, but even with my limited anime completions, I run into recognizing japanese sub actors more and more, which is starting to interfere with my enjoyment especially for MCs and main characters. So dubs could be a fresh angle here as more and more english VAs become good at anime. Finally, as for the Frieren anime specifically, the dub sounds sooooo bad to me, I can totally relate to the vitriol spilling from the sub fan club, hehe. |
| Would've been cool if you posted a clip of dubbed Frieren which you think shows why the dub is great. |
| Probably because foreign dubs are separate products that aren't part of the original projects. |
| Another fake scenario to make people pity you and make people hate sub fans, genius! |
JoeChipFeb 20, 10:19 AM
| If you enjoy English dubs, that's fine. I generally go for them for shows not set in Japan just because it makes watching a little less strenuous with reading subtitles. I do really like the Japanese voice work on this one though. I caught up to airing when it came out and switched to subtitles as I really wanted to continue the story and the dynamic between Fern and Frieren was vastly elevated. "Friiieren-sama" hits a lot different than "Mistres Frierennn" and I couldn't go back. |
DaftBagels said: Freaking gooners need every girl to have a loli uwu voice That has to be the most blatant projection imaginable. Porn addiction is a serious affliction. Dub apologists deserve their reputation. |
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Reply to Gavinmercer
You are missing a lot with dub. Japanese va's are skilled performers who can use the rhythm and energy of their voices to really enhance and complement the visuals. Most dubs to me seem a bit off nuance-wise.
There's nothing wrong watching dub though.
There's nothing wrong watching dub though.
| @Gavinmercer Absolutely disagree, dub voice actors are just as talented, its just that the industry is not as big so they are not willing to pay for talented, established, English voice actors. Now that anime is becoming ore popular in America you are seeing more of an investment, some of these new gen animes have excellent dubs. I think this will only continue to increase. |
"We can't seem to resist what is out of our reach. Maybe that explains our obsession with the stars, the unknown is too appealing"  |
Reply to Imacd24
I don't think it's wrong to hate dubs but most people don't even know why they hate them and that's what bothers me. The way most characters in anime talk is not how real Japanese people speak, but you don't recognize how weird it sounds because you don't speak or understand the language. Most English dubs are actually pretty spot on, but since it's in a language you're familiar with it's just much more clear how goofy and sometimes cringe anime characters can sound. Of course this is just a generalization and there are tons of exceptions but I think this is what puts people off of dubs lots of the times and they don't even really understand this is what is happening. I also personally don't hate dubs. I'm usually partial too subs but it really depends on the show, I think there are tons of phenomenal dubs out there that I'd easily choose over the originals.
| I'm German and kinda have a similar "problem" / take on this: Most German Dubs sound really strange or even cringe to me. Be it the actual lines itself or the voice acting. Most English Dubs sound good to me - but I only learned the language in school so how could I really know or judge a voice actors performance? So I don't get how one could possible fairly judge japanese voice actors if one can barely even understand a single word of japanese? A while ago I saw some German dub clips of "Alya hides her feelings in Russian" on YouTube and then decided to start to watch it with German Dub. After 2-3 Episodes I tried to switch to English but it just sounded so weird and wrong... Guess it all boils down to ones mother languages and what one is simply used to. |
DaftBagels said: @Piromysl you know we can see your profile right? The girl in an extra sexualized maid costume front and center? Mushoku Tensei, an ecchi anime, listed as a favorite. Kurokami, Medaka who is 15-16 and from another ECCHI in favorite characters………. You are not helping your cause, blud. Just because you can't perceive women and female characters as anything else but a sex objects, then it is you who has a problem. |
PiromyslFeb 20, 6:13 PM
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