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Jan 20, 5:34 PM
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I'm going to be a bit long here, so if you don't want to read all of this I understand, but then avoid commenting with sentences that don't lead the discussion anywhere.

Honestly, I always found the relationship between Mikasa and Eren to be an end in itself in the first seasons, with Mikasa chasing Eren more because of a trauma in her past life than a real morbid attachment to him and Eren who feels a sense of inferiority towards Mikasa in various aspects and for this reason he doesn't treat her in the best way.

This relationship in the final season reaches its peak and also what I consider one of the weakest points of this series, Mikasa still continued to worry obsessively about Eren while Eren now seemed indifferent to everything, but when Eren tells Mikasa that he has always hated her I found it as one of the highest points of the show for 2 reasons: 1 and that it finally gives a sensible explanation about Mikasa's real attachment (i.e. the Ackerman blood), 2 it is perfectly in line with Eren's character and his idea of ​​freedom.
And this was turning into an evolution for Mikasa that really seemed to be reaching her full potential, with her finally realizing the headaches, the true nature of Eren, her own will… it really seemed to be building Mikasa into a character that would grow out of this very toxic relationship where she was being manipulated more by her lineage than her real feelings and in fact she drops the scarf and for the first time seems to not want to help Eren even though he might be in danger.
This was going in a really interesting direction where you could finally see these characters grow.

And here's where I don't understand what happened, Mikasa always returns to being the same slave who has to follow Eren because yes (I guess it's Armin's fault), even though everyone now seems more on the road to killing him to stop him and doesn't seem to have any kind of second thoughts about him, there's even the scene with the girl who stole her scarf in which Mikasa shows a really hateful attitude in that scene, paradoxically similar to Eren with her, even though that girl is about to die...
all the potential development of Mikasa wasted and her character became one of the most generic ever (as well as one of the most overrated given how much she is loved by the fandom).

And here I also have to talk badly about Eren (yes, Mikasa kills him but at this point I found the whole thing extremely forced as a choice, I would have preferred it to be someone else because it doesn't make sense for Mikasa to do it) because despite being consistent with his way of thinking until the end, in the last dialogue with Armin, he confesses that he loves Mikasa (always in his distorted version of things) and that he regrets what he said to him... I mean, this thing is very inconsistent, there is nothing in the series that leads Eren to have romantic feelings for Mikasa (they only have 2 intimate moments that are not enough for me to justify such feelings) given that throughout the series he treats her badly and above all the fact that he hated Mikasa for not satisfying his criteria for freedom was perfectly in line with the character, I don't understand this bullshit on Isyama's part to make the final ship ErenxMikasa when it didn't make sense to exist, it made much more sense at this point that Historia had a child by Eren because there was a strong motivation in that.

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Jan 20, 6:18 PM
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Im na readin tha all shi 💀
I need some friends whose tastes match mine
Jan 20, 6:26 PM
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actually Mikasa and Eren's relationship in Attack on Titan is a polarizing aspect of the series, often seen as both a strength and a weakness. Their bond, rooted in a shared traumatic past, adds emotional depth, with Mikasa’s unwavering loyalty contrasting with Eren’s often cold and dismissive behavior. While this dynamic reflects the harsh realities of their world, some fans criticize it for lacking meaningful development, feeling that Eren’s harsh treatment of Mikasa, especially in later arcs, makes their relationship feel one-sided. Additionally, the story’s minimal exploration of Eren’s internal struggles regarding Mikasa and the lack of resolution until the very end leaves many feeling unfulfilled. However, this imperfection aligns with the series’ overarching themes of freedom, sacrifice, and the complexities of human emotion, making it a nuanced but divisive element of the narrative.
Jan 20, 6:41 PM
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I do like their relationship but it was up and down. I do get that AOT is action and Eren was up to something but I still wish they at least focused on them a bit more.
Jan 20, 6:54 PM
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Mikasa is one of the weakest points of AOT, she's just a tool for the plot, She doesn't have any personality, worst caracther by far.
Jan 20, 7:07 PM
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ShiroStorm21 said:
Mikasa is one of the weakest points of AOT, she's just a tool for the plot, She doesn't have any personality, worst caracther by far.

out of the main three sure but she's not that bad
Jan 20, 7:23 PM
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It's like a fucking scroll and I'm not gonna read all of it

btw, LEOOOOON HEEEEELP
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Jan 20, 7:48 PM
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Yes, it was just a steam relationship with no good background.
Jan 20, 8:26 PM
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some people want every spice in the dish

AOT is not like that man
Jan 20, 8:59 PM
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bro there's naked zombies running around in a post apocalyptic world and he's focused on relationships 💀😭😭
Jan 20, 10:06 PM
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ToufiqHassan said:
bro there's naked zombies running around in a post apocalyptic world and he's focused on relationships 💀😭😭

GIANT naked zombies but not so zombies, ur reply made me laugh tho lmaooo
Jan 20, 10:10 PM

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I mean I’ve always found Mikasa herself to be an extremely arguably one of the weakest characters I’ve ever seen.

Imo she had no redeeming traits, she’s just like a puppy which constantly follows someone over and over and over
Jan 21, 12:42 AM
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The relationship between them is a bit strange. Mikasa is adoring Eren extremely and that is especially in the first three seasons sometimes annoying. But there are also moments were this relationship is heartwarming and emotional. After the character change of Eren, Mikasa is a better character for me. She finally do things not because it might help Eren. In the End Mikasa is destroying an object that holds her back several times.

So it is an mixed bag for me.
Jan 21, 1:02 AM
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rishabhvish__ said:
Im na readin tha all shi 💀

omg hell naw i'm not reading all of that 😭
Jan 21, 1:20 AM

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Mikasa is pretty bland and static. Eren's continuous character growth and changes (even though a part remained the same) do not suit well with her. Thus, the lack of chemistry.

Eren has better chemistry with Reiner.
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Jan 21, 2:12 AM
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Author admited that Mikasa was plot irrelevant and probably Eren was supposed to end up with Historia and impregnate her, but that plot and her story in general was abandoned, and Mikasa last minute became love interest for eren. Isayama was overwhelmed by fans who adore mikasa that's all
Jan 21, 2:33 AM
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Short answer: Yes

Hope this helps 😆
Jan 21, 3:08 AM
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If can take a birds view kinda approach,its one of the strongest points.
Jan 21, 3:17 AM
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rishabhvish__ said:
Im na readin tha all shi 💀

riyal , like why y'all have to yap so much about
Jan 21, 3:32 AM
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BananoZoldyck said:
Author admited that Mikasa was plot irrelevant and probably Eren was supposed to end up with Historia and impregnate her, but that plot and her story in general was abandoned, and Mikasa last minute became love interest for eren. Isayama was overwhelmed by fans who adore mikasa that's all

Source: I made it the fuck up.
Isayama never said any of that. If anything Historia was the character he didn't know what to do with.
Jan 21, 3:38 AM
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You got 2 things completly wrong.
1) The whole Mikasa protecting Eren because she's an Ackerman was completely forged by Eren to make her go against him. This is revealed multiple times in the show and it is the thing that would truly ruin Mikasa's character (since the author would remove her free will).
2) It was never revealed that Eren was the father of Historia's child. This was a theory mostly created by shippers but that's all that it is.
So Eren doesn't hate Mikasa since she is actually free and he didn't hook up with Historia either. Everything else u said is subjective so I'm not gonna comment on it.
Jan 21, 4:05 AM

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nah i agree with the post
Jan 21, 4:45 AM

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Wouldn't say that relationship is the weakest part, but Mikasa as a character herself is definitely one of the weaker aspects of the entire series. Outside of her being badass in action scenes there is not much going for her.
Her development only started when Eren had to tell her in her face that he hates her, because otherwise she would never understand that she is nothing more than his guard dog and should try to be her own person.

Jan 21, 5:29 AM
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ShiroStorm21 said:
Mikasa is one of the weakest points of AOT, she's just a tool for the plot, She doesn't have any personality, worst caracther by far.

Most ludicrous statement I've ever seen,that too with a Hachiman pfp
Jan 21, 5:33 AM
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I agree it's not that significant compare to everything else, but the problem I saw with this kind of analysis always comes from a very western/modern frame - just see some word you are using like toxic. come on, they are live in the face of death all day long and they don't have time for your typical romance fantasy type of distraction
Jan 21, 6:17 AM
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@ShiroStorm21
dude she's the best girl character ever
an orphan doesn't know wt to do think abt it...
let's not judge it foolishly
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Yup.
Keep following the rule of:

The more ridiculous and unpopular your opinion is, the more you're actually just right, spitting facts 😅🤣

Combine that with a Wall of Text that took half an hour to type up and Viola-> You created a decent bait (again)^^

Well done
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I don't understand why don't people discuss this much about the plot Holes in one piece and stop glazing it
Jan 21, 6:37 AM
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@Phantom_Siren652
Dude she's grew up together and also eren is a angry maniac who doesn't think abt his ordinary life as other's do, he's goal is to eradicate the enemies who killed his mother.
it's a revenge story , mikasa is very innocent and kind towards him, she understand's him better than anyone,
mikasa is my favorite character in AOT , she's the perfect girl every way, she's silent and strong ,she even go toe to toe with Captain Levi , wt else do you want.
i have her Big wallpaper in my house....
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Jan 21, 6:39 AM
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for fucks sake leave my favourite story alone don't knit pick it like you are some big writer or something most people that have a problem with a story are just there to be like "🤓 ☝️ so I don't really relate and understand this specific thing in the story because I don't have the past experiences that make me understand this and the thousands of people that actually love the story for this exact things are just total idiots because they relate and understand that specific character" like bro the people that tell the flaws of a story should outright say what their favourite series is and if not then write a complex story with art every day for 10 years without missing the mark.
Jan 21, 6:41 AM
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@Laplace_kun

It's a Action war anime there is no time for trivial as " Romance "
i love the way it is.....
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yeah you are right brother 🙌
shitheads always picking up something foolishly to critisize better written anime's and want to show off their fav anime's and their taste in the process.
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Jan 21, 6:54 AM
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AOT is a masterpiece....
believe it or not
if u can't accept it go and watch it over n ovr again.
Stop Redeculing silly things.
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Dude she's grew up together and also eren is a angry maniac who doesn't think abt his ordinary life as other's do, he's goal is to eradicate the enemies who killed his mother.
it's a revenge story , mikasa is very innocent and kind towards him, she understand's him better than anyone,
mikasa is my favorite character in AOT , she's the perfect girl every way, she's silent and strong ,she even go toe to toe with Captain Levi , wt else do you want.
i have her Big wallpaper in my house....
@SoloNecromancer Nah I totally understand your point of view but personally I never saw her as interesting and maybe it came from her obsession with eren. I understand AOT isn't a slice of life or anything and is a lot more war and heavy topic's focused but that doesn't mean they cant deeply flesh out a characters personality.

Take 86 as an example that's a war show and the Lena has great development and personality.

And I mean while not much I started like Mikasa towards the end because of her drifting away from Eren it made her a bit more unique and interesting like the other characters. But while I don't hate her I still consider her not very interesting personally because I feel like any major development she gets as a character doesn't happen until the very back end of the show.

And I respect the opinion dw
Jan 21, 12:23 PM
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BananoZoldyck said:
Author admited that Mikasa was plot irrelevant and probably Eren was supposed to end up with Historia and impregnate her, but that plot and her story in general was abandoned, and Mikasa last minute became love interest for eren. Isayama was overwhelmed by fans who adore mikasa that's all

Isayama did NOT say this
Jan 21, 1:34 PM
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I'm not going to sit here writing paragraphs about how your thinking is flawed

You've seemingly misunderstood every moment of their relationship, you have the completely wrong view of Eren's character, less so of Mikasa's

Eren loved her to the point that he envisioned a future where he would have given up his freedom and the freedom of his people, to stay with Mikasa
Jan 21, 2:37 PM

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bro missed the fact that their relationship was practically the most integral aspect of the series and plot of AOT…
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Im na readin tha all shi 💀

riyal , like why y'all have to yap so much about
@Thorfinn_9 I stil ain't readin any shi 💀🙏
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Jan 21, 4:41 PM
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actually Mikasa and Eren's relationship in Attack on Titan is a polarizing aspect of the series, often seen as both a strength and a weakness. Their bond, rooted in a shared traumatic past, adds emotional depth, with Mikasa’s unwavering loyalty contrasting with Eren’s often cold and dismissive behavior. While this dynamic reflects the harsh realities of their world, some fans criticize it for lacking meaningful development, feeling that Eren’s harsh treatment of Mikasa, especially in later arcs, makes their relationship feel one-sided. Additionally, the story’s minimal exploration of Eren’s internal struggles regarding Mikasa and the lack of resolution until the very end leaves many feeling unfulfilled. However, this imperfection aligns with the series’ overarching themes of freedom, sacrifice, and the complexities of human emotion, making it a nuanced but divisive element of the narrative.
@Joy-sannyashi This is so well written I don't even know how to respond 😅
Jan 21, 4:42 PM
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I do like their relationship but it was up and down. I do get that AOT is action and Eren was up to something but I still wish they at least focused on them a bit more.
@Comica21 true I have no problem if Mikasa is with Eren, but Isayama didn't give much space to this aspect that their whole relationship in the finale seemed very forced
Jan 21, 4:42 PM
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Mikasa is one of the weakest points of AOT, she's just a tool for the plot, She doesn't have any personality, worst caracther by far.
@ShiroStorm21 I totally agree, he could have been an interesting character but in the end he just turned out to be very generic.
Jan 21, 4:43 PM
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ShiroStorm21 said:
Mikasa is one of the weakest points of AOT, she's just a tool for the plot, She doesn't have any personality, worst caracther by far.

out of the main three sure but she's not that bad
@literallyeurope There are worse characters in terms of writing (eg Connie) but she is highly overrated by the fandom
Jan 21, 4:44 PM
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It's like a fucking scroll and I'm not gonna read all of it

btw, LEOOOOON HEEEEELP
(from Ashley, 21 or 1 years ago)
@YamiLoon I appreciate the RE4 reference but I don't appreciate you not reading my post :(
Jan 21, 4:44 PM
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Yes, it was just a steam relationship with no good background.
@Tedybeer The sad thing is that it could have been so much more
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some people want every spice in the dish

AOT is not like that man
@0__Dante__0 I don't understand what you're saying
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bro there's naked zombies running around in a post apocalyptic world and he's focused on relationships 💀😭😭
@ToufiqHassan Unfortunately the only naked female zombie disappeared after season 1 :(
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I mean I’ve always found Mikasa herself to be an extremely arguably one of the weakest characters I’ve ever seen.

Imo she had no redeeming traits, she’s just like a puppy which constantly follows someone over and over and over
@Phantom_Siren652 The only positive trait she had was strength and I have to say I also appreciated her relationship with Armin, like the moment when she confronts Levi to save his life, but yes the character of Mikasa is a very weak character in terms of writing.
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The relationship between them is a bit strange. Mikasa is adoring Eren extremely and that is especially in the first three seasons sometimes annoying. But there are also moments were this relationship is heartwarming and emotional. After the character change of Eren, Mikasa is a better character for me. She finally do things not because it might help Eren. In the End Mikasa is destroying an object that holds her back several times.

So it is an mixed bag for me.
@MirkoAnime22 Let's say that I find it worse, in the first season for example Mikasa was able to scold Eren when he did something wrong, but this thing got lost during the story
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Mikasa is pretty bland and static. Eren's continuous character growth and changes (even though a part remained the same) do not suit well with her. Thus, the lack of chemistry.

Eren has better chemistry with Reiner.
@Laplace_kun Lol I admit your comparison with Reiner and Eren made me smile
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Short answer: Yes

Hope this helps 😆
@ysddr It helps a lot indeed 😆
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