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Jan 9, 9:54 AM
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Serious question.

So the main character is a 52 yo office-guy. But he's reborn as a hot princess-like girl in an isekai. Sexy body and all.

If I do the thing, does it make me gay or not? The body is 100% female, no "used to be male and got surgery" bs, no, bonafide female body. But the mind is obviously male, and not just any male, but old man-male.

Would love to hear everyone's opinion on this and how you handle it yourself.
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you.
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Jan 9, 10:06 AM
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If liking what I like makes me gay then I guess I’m gay.
Jan 9, 10:39 AM
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if you still like girls in a girl's body. it would be still gay. because everyone on that world would think your delusional if you start acting or saying that your a guy. but they a cute girl in front of them
Jan 9, 2:06 PM
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My guy, like who you like and don't stress out over labels so much. Mental and physical genders often don't line up, that's sort of the whole point about transgender gender identity and when/how a person might modify physical bodies to match internal identities.

At the end of the day you're still ultimately sleeping with a 52 year old guy in a biologically female body, so if you're hung up on classifications you might need to have some honest conversations with yourself lol
y u mad tho
Jan 9, 2:56 PM
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My guy, like who you like and don't stress out over labels so much. Mental and physical genders often don't line up, that's sort of the whole point about transgender gender identity and when/how a person might modify physical bodies to match internal identities.

At the end of the day you're still ultimately sleeping with a 52 year old guy in a biologically female body, so if you're hung up on classifications you might need to have some honest conversations with yourself lol
advent_grade said:
At the end of the day you're still ultimately sleeping with a 52 year old guy in a biologically female body,


.... but what does it MEAN?! xD
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you.
Jan 9, 2:59 PM
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Thought-action fusion (TAF) is a cognitive process that involves believing that certain thoughts can impact a person's character, behaviors, or the world around them. People with TAF may believe that having a thought makes it more likely that something will happen, or that having a thought is morally equivalent to actually doing it.

also dark fantasies like rape fantasy is common than you think
Jan 9, 3:00 PM
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Is gay because you know he is an old man 2d.

Jan 9, 3:02 PM
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Well its you... so the seriousness lies in you reaaaaaaally wanting to do another Thread, no matter what xD
You're not trolling^^ You're just really desperate


But to answer your question:

Nah. You're not gay.
You're just a weirdo.
Jan 9, 3:51 PM
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The real question is why are you acting terminally horny over a show with absolutely zero fanservice.
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Jan 9, 5:13 PM

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Yes. Most definitely.
Jan 9, 5:36 PM
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No. You're just a man of culture.
Jan 9, 7:39 PM

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MyllerPhiem said:
If I do the thing…


If you are male and if it is just "the thing"… Where's the gay part on man attracted by a woman? Where is the complicated part?
When it comes to physical attraction, the only thing that matters is the physical part.




When I read the title of the thread I thought the question would go around the series concept itself; in other words: "If it would be gay to want to be in the MC shoes." The real question was disappointing. (sigh)
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Jan 9, 7:41 PM

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LostSpectre said:
The real question is why are you acting terminally horny over a show with absolutely zero fanservice.

I agree with this ^^^^
Jan 9, 7:52 PM

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The real question is why are you acting terminally horny over a show with absolutely zero fanservice.
@LostSpectre Good question!

And I have a theory: He heard Grace's voice and subconsciously remembered "Mayura-sama" form "2.5-jigen no Ririsa"!!

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MyllerPhiem said:
If I do the thing…


If you are male and if it is just "the thing"… Where's the gay part on man attracted by a woman? Where is the complicated part?
When it comes to physical attraction, the only thing that matters is the physical part.




When I read the title of the thread I thought the question would go around the series concept itself; in other words: "If it would be gay to want to be in the MC shoes." The real question was disappointing. (sigh)
@NoHeart You make it sound simple, but this is my issue with every "genderbender"-doujin: Imagine you're a guy and your best friend is suddenly turned into a hot girl. Would you make out with "her"? Would that make you gay? You know that this is a guy's mind, you've known him your whole life. Does the body change everything? I'm not sure.

I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you.
Jan 10, 5:44 AM

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No, because biological sex is defined by the body, not the mind.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 10, 6:47 AM

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Do you daily thank the Almighty for not making you a woman?
Jan 10, 7:16 AM
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i would impregnate the old man fck it
Jan 10, 1:24 PM

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i would impregnate the old man fck it
@RobertisAniki weird flex but ok
Jan 11, 9:40 AM

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Physically gay, mentally straight. So half-gay half-not.
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Jan 11, 10:34 AM

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No, because biological sex is defined by the body, not the mind.
@Zarutaku What if it's a full on dude who you slept with while they were taking a gender-bending drug? lol
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Jan 11, 10:35 AM

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Physically gay, mentally straight. So half-gay half-not.
@PattisL Didn't you say that backwards...?
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Jan 11, 10:45 AM

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@Zarutaku What if it's a full on dude who you slept with while they were taking a gender-bending drug? lol
@LostSpectre So, basically Onimai premise? No, that wouldn't be gay either.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 11, 10:46 AM

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gender bender is becoming popular again isnt it? there is that onimai show with recent popularity and now the ranma remake and i lust on girl mode ranma btw oh there is also heavenly delusion
Jan 11, 1:30 PM

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Visit Thailand on vacation and see for yourself. At least they are better at sucky-sucky than actual Thai girls.
Jan 11, 1:43 PM

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@LostSpectre So, basically Onimai premise? No, that wouldn't be gay either.
@Zarutaku Nah. I had Ishuzoku Reviewers in mind when I said that. They had to limit the usage of gender-bending drugs to one sanctioned area, because there were too many issues where people hooked up, only to find themselves in bed with another dude the following morning haha.
LostSpectreJan 11, 1:47 PM
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Jan 11, 1:53 PM

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@Zarutaku Nah. I had Ishuzoku Reviewers in mind when I said that. They had to limit the usage of gender-bending drugs to one sanctioned area, because there were too many issues where people hooked up, only to find themselves in bed with another dude the following morning haha.
@LostSpectre No idea, what if I took the drug and made out with another girl, would I be lesbian or straight?
Best answer is: Regardless with whom I would have sex, my sexual orientation would still be the same.
ZarutakuJan 11, 1:56 PM
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 11, 1:57 PM

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@LostSpectre No idea, what if I took the drug and made out with another girl, would I be lesbian or straight?
Best answer is: Regardless with whom I would have sex, my sexual orientation would still be the same.
@Zarutaku Huh? That wasn't the point at all. The question is whether or not you would still be completely fine sleeping with a bio-female despite knowing/being well aware (before or after the fact) that it's a guy, and let's say it's someone who is at least an acquaintance, not a total stranger who you will never meet again. lol

Also, I'm obviously assuming you're straight, otherwise this line of questioning would be useless.
LostSpectreJan 11, 2:00 PM
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 11, 2:15 PM

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@Zarutaku Huh? That wasn't the point at all. The question is whether or not you would still be completely fine sleeping with a bio-female despite knowing/being well aware (before or after the fact) that it's a guy, and let's say it's someone who is at least an acquaintance, not a total stranger who you will never meet again. lol

Also, I'm obviously assuming you're straight, otherwise this line of questioning would be useless.
@LostSpectre I would probably be fine with it, having a male buddy and female fuckbuddy in 1 person sounds convenient as fuck.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 11, 2:17 PM

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i don't particularly give a shit alla i know is that my cock is rock ahrd and I'm about to SHIT myself
Jan 11, 2:23 PM

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@LostSpectre I would probably be fine with it, having a male buddy and female fuckbuddy in 1 person sounds convenient as fuck.
@Zarutaku Hmmm. That's an interestingly progressive take in contrast to your earlier statement, though. lol
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Jan 11, 2:37 PM

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@Zarutaku Hmmm. That's an interestingly progressive take in contrast to your earlier statement, though. lol
@LostSpectre It seems coherent, the body is what matters during sex, doesn't matter what gender they identify in their mind, I would also be fine with a reverse-trap.
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Jan 11, 2:46 PM

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@LostSpectre It seems coherent, the body is what matters during sex, doesn't matter what gender they identify in their mind, I would also be fine with a reverse-trap.
@Zarutaku Eh. It's definitely not the typical POV from someone who takes that type of hardline stance on gender/sex.
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@Zarutaku Eh. It's definitely not the typical POV from someone who takes that type of hardline stance on gender/sex.
@LostSpectre What hardline stance, that biological sex depends on the body? I would say that's just realistic rather than hardline.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 11, 3:13 PM
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Soul male and body is female, i feel so weird after watching this anime
Jan 11, 3:14 PM

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@LostSpectre What hardline stance, that biological sex depends on the body? I would say that's just realistic rather than hardline.
@Zarutaku Well, I'm speaking in the context of said stance being anti-trans, unless I'm misinterpreting that?
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Jan 11, 3:23 PM

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It is not gay or trans to be infatuated with the female form as a man. A female body would have different preferences than a male one. Only gay if the genitals are the same.

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@Zarutaku Well, I'm speaking in the context of said stance being anti-trans, unless I'm misinterpreting that?
@LostSpectre I don't really mind transgender, only thing I find disturbing are sex transformation attempts, because they don't work and ruin one's biology.
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Jan 11, 3:38 PM

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@LostSpectre I don't really mind transgender, only thing I find disturbing are sex transformation attempts, because they don't work and ruin one's biology.
@Zarutaku I'm pretty sure they "work" if you want said biology to serve a different sexual purpose, but we're way off track at this point. lmao
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@Zarutaku I'm pretty sure they "work" if you want said biology to serve a different sexual purpose, but we're way off track at this point. lmao
@LostSpectre What I mean is a transformation of the reproductive system and sex chromosomes, but yes that's off-topic.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 11, 11:25 PM
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i would impregnate the old man fck it
@RobertisAniki Based.
Jan 12, 4:51 PM

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@NoHeart You make it sound simple, but this is my issue with every "genderbender"-doujin: Imagine you're a guy and your best friend is suddenly turned into a hot girl. Would you make out with "her"? Would that make you gay? You know that this is a guy's mind, you've known him your whole life. Does the body change everything? I'm not sure.

I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?
@MyllerPhiem Someone else already answered:

Zarutaku said:
No, because biological sex is defined by the body, not the mind.


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MyllerPhiem said:
but this is my issue with every "genderbender"-doujin


I still don't see de issue; if you were the one who became female then, and just then, there would be an issue, but if you remain male… you are just a normal dude attracted to a woman.

quoting myself:

NoHeart said:
When it comes to physical attraction, the only thing that matters is the physical part.


On the other side, this is a more interesting question:

MyllerPhiem said:
I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?


Answer: Look for another girl, maybe a biological girl who was a man in her previous life.

¯\(ツ)/¯

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@Zarutaku What if it's a full on dude who you slept with while they were taking a gender-bending drug? lol
@LostSpectre

What?

Ok, let me rephrase that: "what would you be if you sleep with a dude transformed temporarily into a biological woman by a GB drug?"

Is that right?

The answer is simple: she would be a biological woman, you a guy, then you are straight.

Quoting myself:

NoHeart said:
if you were the one who became female, then, and just then, there would be an issue, but if you remain male… you are just a normal dude attracted to a woman.


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@MyllerPhiem Someone else already answered:

Zarutaku said:
No, because biological sex is defined by the body, not the mind.


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MyllerPhiem said:
but this is my issue with every "genderbender"-doujin


I still don't see de issue; if you were the one who became female then, and just then, there would be an issue, but if you remain male… you are just a normal dude attracted to a woman.

quoting myself:

NoHeart said:
When it comes to physical attraction, the only thing that matters is the physical part.


On the other side, this is a more interesting question:

MyllerPhiem said:
I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?


Answer: Look for another girl, maybe a biological girl who was a man in her previous life.

¯\(ツ)/¯

@NoHeart Nah, answer the last question, lol.
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you.
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@NoHeart Nah, answer the last question, lol.
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MyllerPhiem said:
I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?

I overlooked that question and feel compelled to answer, but it depends on the following: Could it be my mom when she was young?
If yes then I'd choose gf's mind in mom's body, else mom's mind in gf's body.
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Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist.
Jan 13, 6:57 AM

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MyllerPhiem said:
I saw some youtubers do dumb questions and one was "who'd you rather have sex with, your mom's mind in your gf's body or your gf's mind in your mom's body?" What would you pick and why?

I overlooked that question and feel compelled to answer, but it depends on the following: Could it be my mom when she was young?
If yes then I'd choose gf's mind in mom's body, else mom's mind in gf's body.
@Zarutaku OOF <-----------< really?
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Yes it is gay (and that’s okay)
Jan 13, 7:12 PM
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He’s very happily married and has no interest in you. If you “did the thing”, the rape aspect would be a much bigger deal than whether it might suggest in some small way that you’re not completely straight. Unless ”the thing” is purely autoerotic, then no one cares what you jerk to. Have at it.
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my yn yes your gay asf if u fantizise this
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