Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi Episode 12 Discussion

Awwwww the ending was really bittersweet imo I wish we got to learn more about Oto’s hometown and more about the cat girl but hey at least it’s hinted that Oto was the one who left the book (since in her past life she was buried with the glutton book) and that Adashino is alive and back working with Sumireko bro deserves to be happy considering for most of the entire show bro has been suffering since Sumireko got ahold of that book that turns her younger. Bittersweet ending with a side of tears is what came over me during this episode🥹🥲

When Oto started crying bc she has never once thanked Sumireko for saving the day during the times they were together working on a cases and stuff, that part legit had me in tears Oto one of the most sweetest kindest anime characters I’ve ever seen in recent times and it hurt my heart so much seeing her in pain crying bc she’s never gonna see Sumireko ever again☹️☹️

Also I’d like to add that it’s actually really sad to me that Oto won’t ever see Nodoka ever again those 2 were meant for each other man this ending is just so sad to me bc Oto deserves all the happiness in the world bc she’s one of the nicest anime character in animanga I’ll miss her and her cutesy adorable voice☹️🥺☹️😢💜

Overall 8/10
Personal Score 9/10 ILL MISS YOU OTO!!!😩

Why they make cat girl caked TF UP for? GYATTTT DAMNNN😫😩😫😩😫

Alright ending id say. But i dislike how they close it by Sumireko still denying dude wish to bath with her. Need more justice to Disappearance-kun!

More complain about how they skip the catgirl story, like what just i read in the comments, because i truly looking forward to it. Then by how they don't spoonfead you much about the whole Adashino matters, its a mixed feeling.

Overall time constrain died this kind of anime. Normal for industry but not so a very good way to enjoy the whole watch. Perhaps a source reader might have the more solid opinion. However as me its just your average supernatural show.

Sugoi dekai per ten.

which chapter should i start on?

@NirvashX1 How??

@LyLord they change the ending because they don't have much episode for cat general arc and decided to end it like that.

I would say that Dark Gathering is much more of a horror - probably the only one of all these which is principally or effectively exclusively a horror. This series and Yofukashi no Uta aren't and Mieruko-chan is a horror comedy. I won't lie and say that anything present here scared me because practically nothing does since a long time ago and I'm so numb and desensitized to horror at this point, but I actually found that there more moments in this series (Kaii to Otome) going for or achieving proper eerie than in Mieruko-chan where it was almost always played for laughs.

The difference between this series and Mieruko-chan is that while there the horror was the source of the comedy and used for that purpose, here any horror elements and mystery-solving are generally separate from the comedic side of the series. Mieruko-chan could be seen as much more cohesive because it's much more simple in vision (at least from the first season of what we've seen thus far of the story) and in practice/execution. It's a straightforward horror comedy with one unifying idea. This is much more a mishmash and amalgamation of different genres like Mystery + Horror + Slice of Life + Comedy + Drama.

This is probably the minority opinion even on this sub-forum among those who have seen both series, not to mention MAL in general (which is nothing new for me, so unsure why I'm announcing it), but having seen the entirety of both Dark Gathering and this series, even though I ended up both rating both a 6/10 I do feel that I preferred this series. Dark Gathering was decent enough, but for me was always going to be a 6/10, maybe 7/10-tier at best show, whereas for this I could easily see it being an 8/10 or even 9/10 if it actually had like 50 episodes like something like Higurashi and actual time and space to flesh out the depth of its characters, main plot, and all subplots.



Her home is the afterlife, she was a person who died in the past and now essentially a ghost/spirit, for whom it was time to move on.

Very thoughtful and accurate comments regarding Mieruko-chan. I only watched it once all the way through week to week as a seasonal back in the autumn of 2021, so compared to other series I've both seen and thought about a lot more since I discovered and watched them, this one was boiled down more in memory to a series of snapshot images of its most iconic bits and some random moments, but thinking back to it there is actually more depth and scenes involving tenderness and vulnerability of the characters than I gave it credit for. I'm reminded as well of the scene involving the older woman grandmother figure with Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia and Miko's passing interaction with her.

Since we're agreed that Dark Gathering is more so off in a different category of being more strictly a horror series compared to the other three, and because you haven't yet seen the majority of it, now I'm curious about where you would rank the other three compared to one another (Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, Mieruko-chan, and Yofukashi no Uta), because for me, I rated this series a 6/10 as said, Mieruko-chan a 7/10, and Yofukashi no Uta a 5/10. But even though I rated Mieruko a point higher, I actually think that this series from among that group is my preferred favorite. Which doesn't mean I'm going to alter or edit the ratings now. Not because I refrain from ever doing so, but because I don't rate exclusively on personal enjoyment and personal meaning taken out of it - That's a large and substantial part of it, don't get me wrong; it's the significant majority of a rating in my eyes, but not the whole of the story. I also try to consider how well it was actually executed for what it was trying to do, or my interpretation/perception of what it was trying to do.

And with that in mind, I thought Mieruko-chan was very finely executed and the most impressive of the series - like I can't point to one major thing it did very wrong or poorly in my judgment. Whereas I actually find some of the ideas involving the characters and plot in Kaii to Otome - Sumireko as a late 20s woman going through an early mid or quarter-life crisis, the notion of "talent" being valued because of who you are at a point in time (like age/youth, among other things) rather than what it actually is and what you actually do (Sumireko's writing), and some of the Japanese and regional East Asian mythologies and urban legends with a modernized spin combined with the whole extra-dimensional space zones and some grand regulator/overseer of Curiosities in the world as unnatural phenomena being gathered or collected in Kaii to Otome even more engaging and intriguing, but found the series' overall execution and corralling and harnessing them as one cohesive whole kind of a sloppy half-finished mess.

Still, as I've said about this series numerous times now, I'll take it any day of the week over the octillionth generic isekai or romcom.

So sticking with my own as:

1.) Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi
2.) Mieruko-chan
3.) Yofukashi no Uta

For those. But yeah, now I'd love to know yours. Also, if you end up continuing and ever finishing Dark Gathering, it'd be interesting to hear any thoughts derived from the experience from that one as well.

@Sleeping_Knight yeah, already seen that. But not that she is called Cat General. My dub just said "kit-tska" or "kitty".