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Jul 12, 11:42 AM
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This isn't the Graceful Roxy we adore. I just can't view her the same way. This felt out of character for me personally. Just feel like she should've departed after her "moment" with Rudy she had.

Y'all might say what about Lilia seducing Paul and Paul cheating on Zenith. Well they had their fair share of redemption after the teleportation incident. (I'm excluding Rudy cuz he was full of shit and despair & not on his own)

Roxy's character on her own should've ended with after finding Zenith. I can't imagine Roxy going to Paul's of redemption after this.

But it's a shame we can't see that Graceful Roxy anymore. Especially after Norn brought up how Slyphie's presence would've made the matter much better for Rudy. Even it was Slyphie's kindness that kept Roxy from despair
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Jul 12, 11:53 AM
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i think you should watch this short which covers the skipped content (they skipped some pretty crutial parts for no reason)

https://youtube.com/shorts/Nj-zSlshj9U?si=IGKCLIOIbo5LMpni

i hate how it was adapted in the anime because Roxy image was basically ruined and it made her look like she only took advantage of him
Jul 12, 11:55 AM
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I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.
Jul 12, 12:17 PM
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I don't know, but he's going to have to start worshipping Sylphie's panties now to avoid any jealousy.
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Jul 12, 12:19 PM
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SimplyBrazen said:
I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.

i cant lie bro i forgot all about that LMAO
Jul 12, 12:24 PM
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i think you should watch this short which covers the skipped content (they skipped some pretty crutial parts for no reason)

https://youtube.com/shorts/Nj-zSlshj9U?si=IGKCLIOIbo5LMpni

i hate how it was adapted in the anime because Roxy image was basically ruined and it made her look like she only took advantage of him
@SweatyFingers No, it doesn't. It's stated that she did it of genuine concern for the pain he was in, whether or not there's conflicting emotions because he has a wife, she's fallen for him, she wants to be intimate, etc. doesn't erase that, it just makes her multifaceted and human, flaws and all. I don't see much of any reason to hold this against Roxy if we account for the culture/customs of their world.
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Jul 12, 12:25 PM
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SimplyBrazen said:
I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.

i cant lie bro i forgot all about that LMAO
@SmoknHazard16 You tend to forget the small stuff from the first season compared to what haters are all about nowadays.
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Jul 12, 12:32 PM
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SmoknHazard16 said:
SimplyBrazen said:
I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.

i cant lie bro i forgot all about that LMAO

Most ppl have forgotten about most of season 1. That's why so many contradictory threads are being made in MT forums.
Jul 12, 12:40 PM
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Losing grace in exchange for gaining happiness?

Easy choice.
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Jul 12, 12:47 PM
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The same Roxy that gifted a child her panties🫠
Jul 12, 3:12 PM
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Roxy still great to me
Jul 12, 3:59 PM
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SimplyBrazen said:
I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.

I was going to comment the same.

Seems like op just has a bee in their bonnet about MT at the moment, but it’s all coming from bias ignorance
Jul 12, 5:45 PM
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She was pretty trashy imo, and my opinion of her dropped a lot.
Jul 12, 6:17 PM
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Roxy felt like a completely different character to me when Rudeus met up with her again in the dungeon compared to 1st season. I'm not going to say anything more until the 3rd season. Between they not meeting for years, Paul's death and the awkward situation in the rest of the season. I think it's better to see how it moves toward.
Jul 12, 8:38 PM

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This is what you get for getting too much into blindly worshiping "perfect waifu 101 representing her part perfectly and doing wish fulfillment perfectly"
"All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo
Jul 13, 1:10 AM
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https://youtu.be/RQg5YWXNY-E?si=AfncMYis2vqEA8AS


Best video explaining the controversy...
Jul 13, 2:56 AM
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First of all i am not against polymaly at least not in this anime and with this MC but I truly hated her, i think the the romance between rudeus and roxy (i doubt its romance) was very shallow and developed quickly, the relationship between them could have been done much slower and better (the 2nd season literally just rudeus and sylphie's relationship) but instead she fall in love with someone she saw 10 years later and who was still a child in her mind, and after his father's death she took advantage of his despair and had sex with him even though she knew he has a wife. She just damaged her own and Rudeu's character.
Jul 13, 5:40 PM
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Even if your anime only in S1 there’s plenty of times in which she showed that she wasn’t an innocent perfect waifu. Confused as to how people get to that conclusion. Just like everyone in the world she has flaws, in fact that’s why the story is so good IMO it’s realistic
Jul 13, 10:13 PM
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She is not out of character at all. She is still as kind, firm, and intelligent. She teaches Rudeus a lot during the dungeon.
But now, her "fairy tale" boyfriend came to her rescue in the Labyrinth, like she imagined for many years, she fell in love. To add to that, she saw Elinalise doing with so many men. She has urges, too. Like they showed us in season 1. With the purpose/excuse to help Rudeus.. That happened.
Now, if you're questioning about her suffering through Norn interrogation. Ye, there, maybe. We only saw her dealing with hard emotional conflicts with her parents, and there.. she acted the same way, now that I'm remembering.
The only character I think is too perfect is Zenith. 🙏 Poor Zenith 😭
BTW, when Sylph said that she'd do the same in Roxy's shoes, she means it.
Jul 14, 12:59 AM
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i think it was very poorly written, i mean look at how mad zenith got when paul cheated, she slapped him when first hearing about it, he rightfully got reprcussions for chating on his wife

meanwhile rudy cheats on his new wife that is pregenant, brings the girl that he cheated with home and wants his pregnant wife to accept her as a second wife with stright face and it gets accepted with no reprcussions whatsoever

fuck roxy, fuck rudy and fuck selphie for having such low self respect, i thought these characters are a little better than this
Jul 14, 1:08 AM
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i think it was very poorly written, i mean look at how mad zenith got when paul cheated, she slapped him when first hearing about it, he rightfully got reprcussions for chating on his wife

meanwhile rudy cheats on his new wife that is pregenant, brings the girl that he cheated with home and wants his pregnant wife to accept her as a second wife with stright face and it gets accepted with no reprcussions whatsoever

fuck roxy, fuck rudy and fuck selphie for having such low self respect, i thought these characters are a little better than this
@BloodyTaer " tell me you didn't watch it without telling me you didn't watch it "
Jul 14, 6:26 AM
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jacuuzzi said:
The same Roxy that gifted a child her panties🫠

i thought he stole it from the basket during laundary
Jul 14, 10:15 AM
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BloodyTaer said:
i think it was very poorly written, i mean look at how mad zenith got when paul cheated, she slapped him when first hearing about it, he rightfully got reprcussions for chating on his wife

meanwhile rudy cheats on his new wife that is pregenant, brings the girl that he cheated with home and wants his pregnant wife to accept her as a second wife with stright face and it gets accepted with no reprcussions whatsoever

fuck roxy, fuck rudy and fuck selphie for having such low self respect, i thought these characters are a little better than this

Bro, Sylph is thinking about him getting a second wife from ep 7 till now. Before he even knows she is Fitz, she is already preparing herself.
Zenith is follower of Millis, like Norn, the only religion that doesn't allow more than one wife in this world, because of that, she reacts more like we react in the real world.
Jul 14, 1:17 PM
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inthelovedotorg said:
jacuuzzi said:
The same Roxy that gifted a child her panties🫠

i thought he stole it from the basket during laundary

Originally yes, but before she leaves, she gifts him a pair which he kept in a shrine
Jul 15, 12:32 AM
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SimplyBrazen said:
I wouldn't say it's out of character. We literally saw her masturbate to Paul and Zenith having sex in season 1. You expect too much of MT characters' morality and self-control.

I tried to block that scene out of my memory. If this was a hentai, roxy would've joined in for sure. 💀
Jul 15, 2:39 AM

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Was Roxy ever graceful? I mean she was better than a lot other characters here but she had her fair share of ungraceful moments.
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Jul 15, 3:14 AM
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kingsley_017 said:
This isn't the Graceful Roxy we adore. I just can't view her the same way. This felt out of character for me personally. Just feel like she should've departed after her "moment" with Rudy she had.

Y'all might say what about Lilia seducing Paul and Paul cheating on Zenith. Well they had their fair share of redemption after the teleportation incident. (I'm excluding Rudy cuz he was full of shit and despair & not on his own)

Roxy's character on her own should've ended with after finding Zenith. I can't imagine Roxy going to Paul's of redemption after this.

But it's a shame we can't see that Graceful Roxy anymore. Especially after Norn brought up how Slyphie's presence would've made the matter much better for Rudy. Even it was Slyphie's kindness that kept Roxy from despair

might she be? FLAWED??? how could an MT character be flawed? to answer your question from a LN POV rudy pounced on her offer although the LN is mostly from Rudy's POV unless told otherwise, we never seen an aggressive roxy before thats why its out of character
Jul 15, 3:17 AM
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LostSpectre said:
I don't know, but he's going to have to start worshipping Sylphie's panties now to avoid any jealousy.

remember that blood stained sheet? thats a new adfition to his religion
Jul 15, 3:25 AM
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Pinkie_Pie_ said:
First of all i am not against polymaly at least not in this anime and with this MC but I truly hated her, i think the the romance between rudeus and roxy (i doubt its romance) was very shallow and developed quickly, the relationship between them could have been done much slower and better (the 2nd season literally just rudeus and sylphie's relationship) but instead she fall in love with someone she saw 10 years later and who was still a child in her mind, and after his father's death she took advantage of his despair and had sex with him even though she knew he has a wife. She just damaged her own and Rudeu's character.

1. you expect too much from humans
2. you forgot in season 1 roxy talking how she wants to meet her husband
3. if you dont like your welcome to leave
Jul 15, 3:27 AM
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basically tell me you didnt watch the anime without tellling me you didnt watch it
Jul 15, 4:09 AM

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There is no reward for taking moral high ground in place of compromising your own happiness. I hate those type of self righteous characters.

She did what helped Rudy and also made her happy too. Roxy never was perfect role model she was just tamer compared to Rudy and Elinalese.
Jul 15, 1:00 PM

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LostSpectre said:
I don't know, but he's going to have to start worshipping Sylphie's panties now to avoid any jealousy.

remember that blood stained sheet? thats a new adfition to his religion
@Wat3rCrushertime I didn't remember that, I don't appreciate you bringing it up.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jul 15, 1:19 PM
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literally ep 12 of S2 or ep 1 of S2P2
Jul 15, 1:56 PM
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i think it was very poorly written, i mean look at how mad zenith got when paul cheated, she slapped him when first hearing about it, he rightfully got reprcussions for chating on his wife

meanwhile rudy cheats on his new wife that is pregenant, brings the girl that he cheated with home and wants his pregnant wife to accept her as a second wife with stright face and it gets accepted with no reprcussions whatsoever

fuck roxy, fuck rudy and fuck selphie for having such low self respect, i thought these characters are a little better than this
@BloodyTaer First of all, Zenith is a follower of Millis, but Sylphy is not.
They were brought up in different societies. Zenith in Millis, where polygamy is prohibited, and Sylphy in Asura, also often visited Rudy's house, seeing Paul and his 2 wives, this is the norm for her.
+Zenith made Paul swear that he would not cheat when Sylphy first said that she was not against a mistress.
Secondly, Rudeus and Paul are in different circumstances. Paul because he couldn’t sleep with Zenith, and slept with Lilia.
And Rudeus was in despair for several years.
Thirdly, Rudeus, unlike Paul, immediately admits to treason and apologizes, taking full responsibility upon himself
Jul 25, 1:47 AM
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All I'm saying is Eris better beat Rudy's ass red for marrying not one but TWO other women.
Jul 25, 1:50 AM
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Reply to SweatyFingers
i think you should watch this short which covers the skipped content (they skipped some pretty crutial parts for no reason)

https://youtube.com/shorts/Nj-zSlshj9U?si=IGKCLIOIbo5LMpni

i hate how it was adapted in the anime because Roxy image was basically ruined and it made her look like she only took advantage of him
@SweatyFingers Whhhaaaaa??? Are these changes for real?
Jul 25, 1:58 AM
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middle_pickup said:
@SweatyFingers Whhhaaaaa??? Are these changes for real?

yeah, they are :/ .....
Jul 25, 4:24 AM
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SweatyFingers said:
middle_pickup said:
@SweatyFingers Whhhaaaaa??? Are these changes for real?

yeah, they are :/ .....

I knew season two sucked, but I didn't realize it was this weird. It's a far cry from the genuinely interesting world building, and character driven narrative of the first season. Those plot changes are bad, but ngl assuming that video is a fair summary of the original source material it doesn't sound much better.
Aug 14, 7:53 PM
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jacuuzzi said:
inthelovedotorg said:

i thought he stole it from the basket during laundary

Originally yes, but before she leaves, she gifts him a pair which he kept in a shrine

oh might've not paid attention over there
Aug 19, 4:43 AM
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It all feels very wrong and very weird. I really hoped they wouldn't go there... but here they are trying to normalize cheating on pregnant underage wife leading to polygamy + roxy sleeping him 'to cheer him up', after his dad just died, because he is ...sad, knowing he is married. But it's fine right cuz Roxy isn't really underage she's just another adult in loli body how convenient, and sylphiette is just okay with it. So it's all fine right? /s Rudeus is like "oh im just like my dad who knew" 🤮

Idk, I kept watching because I was curious and like the world building / story other than the weird pedo harem fantasy shit, I was hoping (knowing what happened so far, I knew it was stupid) in some place they'd tune it out and chalk it as character growth, but they just made it worse.
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