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Apr 19, 2024 10:46 AM
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Many things happening at the same time 0_o

Finally they explained what the traffic signs ("!") mean, I have a feeling there is a lot of lore behind it, nice.
Apr 19, 2024 11:37 PM
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I hate to say it, but I was a little disappointed by this one. Really not a fan of them going to a school when the first episode felt like it established this as a more adult mystery series. I'm glad they're giving us some great ecchi shots of Sumireko; at least they know how to utilize the poster girl.

It appears the teacher is some kind of demon who attacks those who cause any kind of disturbance, hence why the school is as peaceful as it is.

What I don't understand is why Sumireko is all of a sudden able to utilize this age changing ability. Last episode it almost killed her, and I feel as though it was trying to tell us "be careful what you wish for". Now she can use it at will? Not a fan of that, honestly.

I just hope this school arc ends quickly, and we can go back to being more of a seinen type show.
Apr 20, 2024 12:47 AM

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Ren submitting the Curiosity Juusho, which can be exchanged for one Yama Ticket, he doesn't want to submit it, but instead holds onto the book with his sister Oto, which has a Curiosity in her school: Koone Girls' Academy. And since Sumireko has indicted Tsukuyomi's Water of Youth into her will, she has become a Bearer of Youth, being able to transform between her young and old self to help infiltrate her school to find out what's going on behind certain incidents.

Indeed, there is a Marker within the girls' bathroom that Oto is afraid of, and after being locked in the toilet for 7 hours, Sumireko finally got the high school mingling life she's been longing for with Oto's friends. But the strange behaviour foretold of the Dribblers getting cursed in school once to not attend school any further, and Uname-sensei coming in to stop Sumireko's "bullying", turns out she is the one under this afflicted curse.

Without Ren's help, how is Sumireko able to resolve this curse?
Apr 20, 2024 3:30 AM

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@GTRaijin I truly agree. Like they must have think that the teets and boobees they see in the manga should also be included in the anime version. I mean, how hungry can you be? Eww 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️
Apr 20, 2024 3:39 AM

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logopolis said:
Oh, and anyone who thinks it has to have nipple shots or it's "censorship" just because they're in the thing it's adapting is a complete and utter moron, as always.

Are you just trying to play semantics or something? You can call it however you want, but it won't change the heart of the matter.
Apr 20, 2024 8:16 AM
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the mid was like i kinda knew it was the teacher but the ending dayummmm
Apr 20, 2024 9:36 PM
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la sucesora de dark gathering
Apr 21, 2024 5:07 AM
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@logopolis It is censorship though, are you daft? Removing something to fit some criteria imposed on them is censorship. Where'd all the bleating about "broadcast laws" and stuff go from you folks? I mean, it was mistaken, but it was at least something. First "it had to be censored", now "it's not censorship", what is next on the gaslighting and ever moving goalpost agenda here?
Hilarious that you are being an unabashed apologist for censorship while pretending to champion artistic integrity too. If you really believed what you said you should be arguing that people adapting someone else's IP should be respectful and faithful to it to the smallest detail.

@sakurasyinks Fans wanting stuff in the source material to be adapted faithfully is not wrong or shameful. I'm sorry people wanting nudity from a series that shows nudity upsets you this much.
Funny how the anti-fanservice types just always rally together to devolve into name calling and trolling whenever people say the word "censorship" whatsoever. Very good quality discussion about the anime here, I can tell you guys are very big fans of the series and totally not here to ruin discussion and club critics over the head.
Apr 21, 2024 6:27 AM

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@logopolis It is censorship though, are you daft? Removing something to fit some criteria imposed on them is censorship. Where'd all the bleating about "broadcast laws" and stuff go from you folks? I mean, it was mistaken, but it was at least something. First "it had to be censored", now "it's not censorship", what is next on the gaslighting and ever moving goalpost agenda here?
Hilarious that you are being an unabashed apologist for censorship while pretending to champion artistic integrity too. If you really believed what you said you should be arguing that people adapting someone else's IP should be respectful and faithful to it to the smallest detail.

@sakurasyinks Fans wanting stuff in the source material to be adapted faithfully is not wrong or shameful. I'm sorry people wanting nudity from a series that shows nudity upsets you this much.
Funny how the anti-fanservice types just always rally together to devolve into name calling and trolling whenever people say the word "censorship" whatsoever. Very good quality discussion about the anime here, I can tell you guys are very big fans of the series and totally not here to ruin discussion and club critics over the head.
RKGS said:
It is censorship though, are you daft?


Nothing has been removed. The manga still exists. But a whole anime has been added!

Removing something to fit some criteria imposed on them is censorship.


Which is a completely different matter to the anime, unsurprisingly, not looking exactly the same as the manga.

There's no evidence that broadcast laws are relevant here, the default assumption should always be that an anime has been made that way because the people making it think that's the best way to do it.

Now, if they actually want to make the anime with nipples, but are not doing so because of broadcast laws, then you do have censorship, but it is censorship by the government, not by the artists. The artists are the people being censored there.

But that is all speculation.

Needless to say, I am very much against those broadcast laws.

Where'd all the bleating about "broadcast laws" and stuff go from you folks? I mean, it was mistaken, but it was at least something. First "it had to be censored", now "it's not censorship", what is next on the gaslighting and ever moving goalpost agenda here?


You seem to be mistaking me for someone else, I have never claimed that "it had to be censored". I want the people making the anime to be free to do it in whatever way they see fit.

If you really believed what you said you should be arguing that people adapting someone else's IP should be respectful and faithful to it to the smallest detail.


I oppose the whole concept of "IP". Anyone using the term "intellectual property" is either trying to confuse you or is confused themselves.

But I bet you wouldn't like it if the anime, for instance, avoided any music or voice acting because there wasn't any in the manga. Television and comics are different media, you need to do them differently.

Funny how the anti-fanservice types just always rally together to devolve into name calling and trolling whenever people say the word "censorship" whatsoever.


Just thought you should know, my favourite show from last season was Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete. Yes, the version with the nipples. When I say I like artistic freedom, I mean I like artistic freedom.
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Apr 21, 2024 9:05 AM
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I hate to say it, but I was a little disappointed by this one. Really not a fan of them going to a school when the first episode felt like it established this as a more adult mystery series. I'm glad they're giving us some great ecchi shots of Sumireko; at least they know how to utilize the poster girl.

It appears the teacher is some kind of demon who attacks those who cause any kind of disturbance, hence why the school is as peaceful as it is.

What I don't understand is why Sumireko is all of a sudden able to utilize this age changing ability. Last episode it almost killed her, and I feel as though it was trying to tell us "be careful what you wish for". Now she can use it at will? Not a fan of that, honestly.

I just hope this school arc ends quickly, and we can go back to being more of a seinen type show.
@takkun_ "they know how to utilise the poster girl" well, the anime definitely doesn't. If they did, they wouldn't have censored her nudity which you see in the manga.
Apr 21, 2024 3:05 PM

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logopolis said:
the default assumption should always be that an anime has been made that way because the people making it think that's the best way to do it

You have too much faith. Unfortunately, the default assumption in the case of sexual and, to a lesser extend, violent scenes should always be forced intervention by a third party. I highly doubt there are many artists out there who would actually want to remove content when adapting another artist's work out of their own volition. The number of industry people lamenting on their social media accounts how they were forced to change certain character designs or (relatively tame) sexual scenes due to orders from above are quite telling.
Apr 21, 2024 3:30 PM

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logopolis said:
the default assumption should always be that an anime has been made that way because the people making it think that's the best way to do it

You have too much faith. Unfortunately, the default assumption in the case of sexual and, to a lesser extend, violent scenes should always be forced intervention by a third party. I highly doubt there are many artists out there who would actually want to remove content when adapting another artist's work out of their own volition. The number of industry people lamenting on their social media accounts how they were forced to change certain character designs or (relatively tame) sexual scenes due to orders from above are quite telling.
@DarkDooM2 I love the way that the visibility of an anatomical feature is regarded as 'content'. Imagine complaining because a manga panel has, say, a character's left ear visible, but the anime uses a different angle on that scene in which you can't see the ear. I'd understand if this was hentai or heavy ecchi like DxD or TLR where they may actually be the point, but this is clearly going for something a lot more complex.

When it comes to actual content, whole chapters getting omitted just because they don't fit into the story the anime is opting to lay out is pretty common. And any competent and not-intimidated director will throw out manga panels pretty much at will, because the right shot for an anime will often be different to the right shot for manga. My favourite anime leaves out one of the two main characters of the game, because a story based on conversations between a psychiatrist and her patient works well for a mostly audio game, but would be a little boring with full animation. It goes fully for thematic linking instead.

Doubtless there exist cases where artists have to change things due to orders from above. That is the only thing those anecdotes tell you. When they change something because they think the change is a good idea, they don't make posts complaining about it. And people don't seek those posts out and tell you about them. You only hear about the times it goes wrong, you don't hear about the times it goes right.
Apr 21, 2024 11:27 PM
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@logopolis "Nothing has been removed", ah cool, so we're just straight up lying now.
Just crazy that you just keep up all these apologist talking points too like acting like studios and producers can't ever be at fault for censorship because "uh that's probably what they thought would work better", truly and utterly insane mindset.
"I'm against the concept of IP" and this is where I completely ignore every other thing you say about artistic integrity since this is the second time you have totally and completely contradicted yourself. You don't care about artistic freedom, you care about trying to shut down discussion about censorship.
And now you're making up scenarios about music and VA work too just so you can try and feel justified in handwaving complaints over very real censorship, yeesh.
Apr 22, 2024 2:38 PM

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This felt like an okay episode. Tbh almost fell asleep towards the end
Apr 22, 2024 2:41 PM

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I hate to say it, but I was a little disappointed by this one. Really not a fan of them going to a school when the first episode felt like it established this as a more adult mystery series. I'm glad they're giving us some great ecchi shots of Sumireko; at least they know how to utilize the poster girl.

It appears the teacher is some kind of demon who attacks those who cause any kind of disturbance, hence why the school is as peaceful as it is.

What I don't understand is why Sumireko is all of a sudden able to utilize this age changing ability. Last episode it almost killed her, and I feel as though it was trying to tell us "be careful what you wish for". Now she can use it at will? Not a fan of that, honestly.

I just hope this school arc ends quickly, and we can go back to being more of a seinen type show.
@takkun_ Same lol the ecchi shots were the highlight of this episode for me
Apr 22, 2024 7:33 PM
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So if the plot needs it she suddenly is the bearer of the curse and can change freely? :|
On top of that she does not change into a little kid but to a high schooler because that's what plot needed? That's so cheap.

Quite boring episode overall.
@Ayunee I think it's because she switched back and forth so many times, as opposed to simply having it be undone and steering clear of it
Apr 22, 2024 7:37 PM
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I am only guessing, but I'd assume she can readily use the youth curse (and also control how far back she de-ages), because of her abusing it back and forth so many times in rapid succession, and also being under its effect for about a week straight. Curses aren't just an effect you turn off or not, it is sure to leave some sort of actual change or effect on you even if you're no longer truly under it. The curse had very specific triggering conditions, but because she used it so much, it's likely just become a part of her, at least until something is done with the book.

Also the curse's negative effects seem to only crop up as a result of extended de-aging. Her body began to deteriorate (blood pushing its way out from being so packed densely in her child form), because she remained in that state for a week straight. If she sticks to smaller bursts, especially being a teen, whose body is larger than a child's, it is more manageable. The issue is she wanted to STAY a child, not shift to and fro her adult and child forms.
Apr 24, 2024 8:41 AM

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Love more Sumireko and not only she's a thicc af onee san but can now change to a highschool girl as well, quite the combination. Imouto chan kawaii, jealousy. Sensei reekes trouble so no surprise, I guess she's just targetting the bullies? Which is why there ain't no bullies.
May 2, 2024 1:26 PM
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This was so much fun. I'm baffled how something like this has so many critics here but something like Konosuba has almost universal approval. Interesting.
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May 17, 2024 3:15 PM
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Sumireko’s Bust: 1, School Uniform Buttons: 0 lol, definitely enjoying the jokes in regards to how stacked she is. And things took a bit of a different turn than I thought in this episode, I mean episode 1 already had the same effect for me so it’s not a big deal that it happened again, and that’s mainly because of the fact Sumireko can just shrink at will and to whatever age instead of just a loli, I know Adashino briefly mentioned why she can do that now but more explanation would have been nice, but at the same I accepted it pretty fast lol. And this also kinda comes back to something I mentioned last episode, being that they’ve shrunk Sumireko down despite the uniqueness of her massive booba, I wonder if this means she’s rarely gonna be a 28 year old babe or not, guess time will tell.

There was also an interesting thing at the beginning with Adashino, he turned down that ticket but later told Oto that he didn’t have enough for a ticket, I wonder why he’s keeping Oto around then. And the plot at the school is interesting, it was a bit of a slow buildup to it with the introduction of the other schoolgirls and the obviously sus teacher, but I had a feeling we would see someone get the symptoms described within the episode and it happened, this paired with the teacher licking the floor was kinda spooky, I look forward to seeing how they end up pinpointing her as the culprit and what’s done about it, it might not be as easy as reciting words from a book this time. And lastly I liked that little “Maria-sama Watches Over Us” reference with that girl straightening the other’s tie, at least that’s what I think it’s a reference to giving the type of school it is.
@TheColonel76 hahah glad im not the only one that got that Maria Sama reference !
May 17, 2024 3:29 PM
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@TheColonel76 hahah glad im not the only one that got that Maria Sama reference !
@Badguyz69 you are not alone lol, a cultured reference for sure
Jul 9, 2024 9:39 PM
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I unfortunately find that teacher super hot despite her obvious flaws shown at the end. Although, the shot with her shadow showing devil horns was cool.
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