Why is Ninja Kamui allowed to be on MAL?

Mar 24, 2024 9:46 PM

#51

LoomyTheBrew

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It makes no sense why this is allowed, but Scott isn’t. The MAL admins constantly contradict themselves.

Mar 25, 2024 12:13 AM

#52

TheHoodSenpai

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Reply to TheMangaManiac

@TheHoodSenpai sounds more like "I am entitled and don't want any EUGH WESTERN CARTOONS on my holy Japanese cartoon website" but could be just me.
Also all "Scott Pilgrim is not anime" arguments are completely idiotic because 1) it's made in Japan by Japanese animators, deal with it already, 2) MAL has entries that are much more "problematic" and "questionable" than SP, so it's exactly double standards at work, 3) it was discussed TO DEATH already.

There's literally zero problem with adding more stuff to the site except five or so elitistic idiots will whine about it.
Btw I've seen more than enough anime so your argument kinda falls falt on the face. Less than you did, but manga is much superior anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@TheMangaManiac Well if there wasn’t a problem with adding certain shows then they’d be added now wouldn’t they? You’ve also been on this site for 10+ more years than me meaning you’re probably at least 10 years older, i’ll catch up in manga eventually.

Mar 25, 2024 2:55 PM

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Borddel

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TheHoodSenpai said:
@TheMangaManiac Well if there wasn’t a problem with adding certain shows then they’d be added now wouldn’t they? You’ve also been on this site for 10+ more years than me meaning you’re probably at least 10 years older, i’ll catch up in manga eventually.

Your point is "Mine is bigger than yours"?? HAHAHAHAH

Well, I see the problem here. It is not Kamui being allowed, but SPTO not being and it really doesn't make any sense without a MAL's statement .

Artistic Style shouldn't be a point since it is very arbitrary and quite elitist. A japanese director can use any of his inspiration or targeted public to do his "anime" as he should. We can find some all original anime material quite western in his way.

So the big problem is tha lack of information and we just wanna figure it out.

Personally, the original studio should be a important criteria. If a Japanese director makes a hollywood movie it will be an American movie, other way, if an American makes movie for an japanese studio turns it in an japanese movie. but if an american studio makes a movie in Japan, still an American movie as well.

Mar 25, 2024 6:50 PM

#54

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DC comics are outsourcing animation to japan because they see anime make $$$ and their western animators/story writers sucks.
Get ready for western crap overtaking anime.
I was surprised why this anime feels so shitty.
It's western properpty outsourced to japan. That's why. Westerners thinks that flashy anumation and fight scenes makes anime great. This shit was boring. Dropped at EP03.

Story/pacing is probably done by westerners or just japanese think "what westerners like? Action explossions" lol.
"Throw some ninjas, those weebos loved naruto".

Apr 14, 2024 4:36 PM

#55

TheRockerX

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There's no logical consistency on which American co-productions are allowed on MAL. It all just depends on whatever mood the MAL moderators are in that day.

Apr 14, 2024 7:56 PM

#56

DGemu

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There's no logical consistency on which American co-productions are allowed on MAL. It all just depends on whatever mood the MAL moderators are in that day.

Between the flimsy database and the obsessive stalkers, Im not sure why I even browse this website.

Apr 14, 2024 10:04 PM

#57

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I only followed the discussion a bit, from what I witnessed is that Japanese person(s) must have the decisive power over the project in order to be considered Anime here.
Apparently this wasn't the case with Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, but is probably the case with Ninja Kamui.

@Zarutaku not a japanese person but a "person in the japanese, korean or chinese field". For example, the guy who directed the Scott Pilgrim anime is spanish but he is Japanese talent cus he has been part of the industry for a good while (and also likely has citizenship at this point), if anyone want mal to be held to a standard, remove Afro Samurai while we are at it.

If they only wanted japanese animation like half of the catalog should be removed xd, how many anime out there, specially in the 2010's and even more in the 2020's has outsourced animation to places like korea or china, i have a fun game that is looking at the credits and looking for names that aren't written in japanese, usually you see studios like DR MOVIE show up. And no, the original language having to be japanese, isn't proof of something being "genuine anime", the Dragon's Dogma anime's original language is english.

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Apr 15, 2024 1:59 AM

#58

Nehzuko

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I always find it humoring that the people always asking why or why not a non anime show is or isn’t on MAL barely watches anime to begin with. It’s like you guys want to bridge the gap between western media and eastern media so you can add every cartoon you’ve watched. I’ll give you an answer though. Adding Ninja Kamui isn’t that big of a deal, adding something like Scott Pilgrim would open a huge can of worms and make more trouble for admins than it’s worth. Hope that helps.

@TheHoodSenpai Your reason makes no sense at all. So its okay if they add "anime" made in China and stuff like Ninja Batman, Marvel Future Avengers, etc.?

Apr 24, 2024 12:26 AM

#59

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@TheMangaManiac this is coming from someone whos just reading the thread and doesnt nor has watched scott pilgram. the argument that people use for why its not added by saying the original audio is english. well to that i say what about the bakugan battle brawlers series? it was a cooperation with canada and japan but the original language is english because the japanese came afterwards. but again im unbiased and don't care too much whether it's added or not.

Oct 22, 2024 7:40 PM

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amarcioz

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Isn't Scott Pilgrim Canadian? The original content is probably the key factor.

@mikebz45 The original work does not need to be Japanese to be considered an anime. Japan has produced many anime that are adaptations of Western works such as the WMT anime series.

Oct 23, 2024 5:54 AM

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@mikebz45 The original work does not need to be Japanese to be considered an anime. Japan has produced many anime that are adaptations of Western works such as the WMT anime series.

@amarcioz I didn't say that. I just said that Scott Pilgrim is Canadian

Oct 23, 2024 8:23 AM

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@amarcioz I didn't say that. I just said that Scott Pilgrim is Canadian

@mikebz45 Akage no Anne is also of Canadian origin

Oct 23, 2024 9:09 AM

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mshfqtny said:
All i know is that if it's made in japan by a Japanese studio then it's anime and it should be added in mal

With that logic you'd have to add The Last Unicorn (1982) since it was made by Topcraft who later renamed themselves to Ghibli.

If it's made by Japanese for Japanese in Japanese then it's an anime. Otherwise it is not.

Oct 23, 2024 10:21 AM

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@mikebz45 Akage no Anne is also of Canadian origin

@amarcioz Did you read the rest of the discussion? We already figured out that we didn't figure it out.

Dec 29, 2024 1:09 PM

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Also, regarding the "The official audio is English" argument for Scott Pilgrim - back when the show was heavily discussed around its release, it was correctly pointed out that "Afro Samurai", listed on this site as an anime, never had Japanese audio, and aired in Japan entirely in English.

So the audio couldn't have been the issue.

It just feels arbitrary, which is why fans of Scott Pilgrim are upset by MAL refusing to add it. Shows that are more borderline on their definition as an anime (Due to their nature as a co-production) get a pass, but SPTO doesn't.

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