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Dec 15, 2023 10:08 AM
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Heya, I'm not all that familiar with the kenshin Franchise but was always interested in it. Anyway, is the new adaptation better than the original? What would be a better watch? Would love to hear y'all's thoughts and thanks in advance!
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Dec 15, 2023 10:26 AM
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the remake is really good. I'd personally say its even better than the original in terms of visuals and graphics but the original just has the hearts of the majority which is why some don't like the remake.
Dec 15, 2023 10:31 AM
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in my opinion in most episodes id say its a perfect remake almost 1:1. the graphics and music and story is built up better the tension and scenes are made better. the only complaint i have is that the old man doctor and his granddaughters dont have as much time on screen and its a shame because i loved the heartwarming moments with kenshin interacting and kinda getting bullied by the little girls it was sweet and funny and in the new series they did calm down the humor alittle and sometimes its good other times i miss it. so beside those 2 changes id say its perfect and honestly i prefer it to the original
Dec 15, 2023 10:32 AM
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Really weak, in perfect honesty. It looks "cleaner", but presentation-wise it's the most barebones adaptation possible, it's like Shaman King but without the rushed pacing. By comparison, the Furuhashi adaptation has considerably way stronger atmosphere and striking imagery.
Dec 15, 2023 10:34 AM
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-Nir- said:
Anyway, is the new adaptation better than the original?


It's far better in some points , but also far worse in others.

-Nir- said:
What would be a better watch?


... both ?
The 1996s Series has a far better ambiance , but the 2023s one is more faithful and consistent...

If you want more explanations so as to make your choice , i did a complete breakdown in this thread : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2104576
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
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"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
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Dec 15, 2023 10:41 AM
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Isnt the whole end of the og filler?
Dec 15, 2023 10:43 AM
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Bushmeat said:
Isnt the whole end of the og filler?


It is.

But it also adapted the whole 2nd Arc , which only barely started at the end of this Season.
It also got the OVAs , which are more or less an adaptation of the 3rd (Final) one.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Dec 15, 2023 10:47 AM
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It’s fair. I think that clean and crisp animation degrades the more rough hewn, sharp-edged approach of the original series, and that shows the most in the fights, which just do not pack the same punch. If the original animation just doesn’t suit you, it’s worth watching, but absent that, I cannot recommend this over the original.
Dec 15, 2023 11:23 AM
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The backgrounds are better in the 1996 version, and nighttime and dark places look better in the 1996 version too. But the 2023 version is closer to the manga and Kenshin is voiced by a man this time (unlike the 1996 version where he is voiced by a woman, and therefore sounds like a woman, which just feels wrong since he's a fully-grown man). Honestly, both adaptations are good. What would be a better watch? Probably the 2023 version since it'll adapt beyond what the 1996 version adapted.
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Dec 15, 2023 12:02 PM
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I personally love it, I already give it a 🔟✨
Dec 15, 2023 12:04 PM
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mc031992 said:
I personally love it, I already give it a 🔟✨

btw I don't know why the low rating and those unfair reviews... 🤷🏻‍♂️
Dec 15, 2023 12:31 PM
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It’s hard to separate nostalgia and all that, but the remake is solid…but can’t really compare. Updated animation as you might expect, but I think the animation is too clean and…bright maybe? Probably the biggest gap is in music, the OST of the original is leagues and leagues better than the remake. Without spoilers, there was a crucial scene in the last episode that they flubbed music-wise and the music from a crucial fight scene was lacking pretty badly too, cutting the tension from the original.

I ended up giving the remake a respectable 7. If I had never seen the original, maybe it would’ve been higher but hard to say. With that said, I’m excited to see what they do with the next season
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mc031992 said:
btw I don't know why the low rating and those unfair reviews... 🤷🏻‍♂️


The rating is not low at all. It's just not very high.

As for the reviews , 12 of the 26 currently made are positive , and i don't see how the neutrals/negatives are unfair.
They strikes straight up at the weaknesses of this adaptation , which are accentuated when compared to the previous adaptation from almost 30 years ago now.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
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Dec 15, 2023 12:37 PM
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If comparing anime with old standards is not unfair, tell me what it is.
Dec 15, 2023 12:55 PM

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mc031992 said:
If comparing anime with old standards is not unfair, tell me what it is.


That's a Remake of a show , of course it will be compared...

While it may not be very fair , it should actually be unfair for the old adaptation.
As the standards changed with time , they should have been raised , not lowered. (That's why most Remakes completely outshines their previous iterations)

This Remake is worse on a lot of aspect compared to a production from almost 30 years ago , but we can also compare it to production made today.
In the very same seasons , there was Jujutsu Kaisen 2nd Season/Mushoku Tensei II/Bleach/Sousou no Frieren/Spy x Family Season 2/Kusuriya no Hitorigoto/Shangri-la Frontier/... , and Rurouni Kenshin 2023 falls flat in front of any of them.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Dec 15, 2023 1:45 PM
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Alexioos95 said:
mc031992 said:
If comparing anime with old standards is not unfair, tell me what it is.


That's a Remake of a show , of course it will be compared...

While it may not be very fair , it should actually be unfair for the old adaptation.
As the standards changed with time , they should have been raised , not lowered. (That's why most Remakes completely outshines their previous iterations)

This Remake is worse on a lot of aspect compared to a production from almost 30 years ago , but we can also compare it to production made today.
In the very same seasons , there was Jujutsu Kaisen 2nd Season/Mushoku Tensei II/Bleach/Sousou no Frieren/Spy x Family Season 2/Kusuriya no Hitorigoto/Shangri-la Frontier/... , and Rurouni Kenshin 2023 falls flat in front of any of them.

Those are all great points, and I’m glad you contrasted Kenshin with other current shows as well. I know there was some negative murmuring when Lidenfilms was announced as the studio, but wasn’t too familiar with them as a studio. Did see they were connected with the 2016 Berserk, which is enough to make anyone nervous, haha.

Knowing all that, I think it came out better than I expected. I still think the music is the biggest miss of the adaptation, I can live with the animation and the voice acting has all been good. But yeah, it’ll always prompt comparisons to the OG, it’s nearly impossible for it not too. I’m just rooting for them to continue to improve for the next arc and hopefully we finally get an animated jinchu arc. That’s the real goal here:)
Dec 15, 2023 5:11 PM

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Rurouni Kenshin 1996 Pros & Cons:
+ Better choreography for its best fights
+ Much stronger tone
+ Special visual effects (i.e. Battousai Mode)
+ Unparalleled OST
+ Amazing English dub (the original dub)
+ Bonus: Ayame & Suzume (just super adorable & helped make Kenshin feel like an endearing uncle)


- Uneven pacing
- Average action was just flashing lines like reading a manga
- Mediocre filler arc for the last 32 episodes


Rurouni Kenshin 2023 Pros & Cons:
+ Improved pacing
+ More consistent quality
+ Polished story (older version felt like it borrowed filler tropes in arcs like Raijuta)
+ Much better Japanese voice acting compared to the 1996 version


- Generic production quality: feels like an exceptional seasonal but nothing memorable or classic
- Nearly non-existent OST
- Less personality: It feels like it's more about checking off the boxes of a faithful adaptation


Overall, I think the remake is a solid choice & alternative to watching the older first season. However, based on what they've shown so far, the 1996 version's season two is likely going to be stronger by leaps & bounds. And while I look forward to this potentially adapting the full manga, I don't see this ever topping the Trust & Betrayal OVA, which was a one-of-a-kind artistic master craft.
Dec 15, 2023 6:40 PM
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The remake reminds me of the original while having better animation, flow, and character expansion. I watched the original every single time it was on Toonami. I would definitely rewatch it again. I’m super excited for the Shishio arc. I wonder if it will make me cry more than the original did. The first 3 times I saw the Shishio arc, in the original, I cried so much at one very specific point during Kenshin and Shishio’s fight.
Dec 15, 2023 9:29 PM
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Quite a good remake! Very few differences aside from less filler and slightly toned down violence, if I recall correctly. I do prefer the charm of the first anime, but it could just be nostalgia.
Dec 16, 2023 3:00 AM

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It's a good remake that has fixed some issues I had with the og for example the weird shift to comedy and Kenshin sounding like a grown woman. The new anime has more serious tone and the voice cast is superb. It might fall short compared to the og in some aspects but overall I'd say they've done a good job so far.
Dec 16, 2023 7:46 AM

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It's a very good adaptation. Almost all of the stuff before Saito's introduction was improved here. I rewatched some episodes of the '96 series for comparison, taking off the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia, and yeah, many things have been changed for the better. That being said, I think that Saito's introduction and Kenshin's departure were much better done in the '96 series (you'll notice that here is when the budget began to increase and the overall direction improved). They were not really bad in this adaptation, but I had too many expectations about how they would make those scenes, so I was a bit disappointed with the last two episodes. The Kyoto arc left the bar very high in the older series, so I don't think this remake will surpass or even be on par with what was adapted before, but I hope being wrong.
Dec 16, 2023 8:48 AM
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Og as much more emotion. This new one is good but missing something
Dec 17, 2023 8:54 PM
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IMO, its a solid adaptation, but I don't think it really surpasses the 96 version aside from having modern animation and being more closely tied to the source material.

The 96 version simply put is still superior, it had the more talented director(C'mon its Kazuhiro Furuhashi), better musical score, framing, composition and made use of clever tricks to work around the limitations of cell animation to show, not tell.

I wanted this remake to be the best version of Kenshin it could be and I'm a bit bummed that it kinda isn't. At the same time I'm glad that there seems to be many first timers who enjoyed it and want to see more, so in that sense It should be counted as a success as It's a wonderful story that deserves to be seen by new audiences and experienced in full, so I hope season 2 and beyond do well and I'll still watch the new seasons to see if they're able to continue to improve as they go along.
Dec 18, 2023 1:04 PM
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Rurouni Kenshin 1996 Pros & Cons:
+ Better choreography for its best fights
+ Much stronger tone
+ Special visual effects (i.e. Battousai Mode)
+ Unparalleled OST
+ Amazing English dub (the original dub)
+ Bonus: Ayame & Suzume (just super adorable & helped make Kenshin feel like an endearing uncle)


- Uneven pacing
- Average action was just flashing lines like reading a manga
- Mediocre filler arc for the last 32 episodes


Rurouni Kenshin 2023 Pros & Cons:
+ Improved pacing
+ More consistent quality
+ Polished story (older version felt like it borrowed filler tropes in arcs like Raijuta)
+ Much better Japanese voice acting compared to the 1996 version


- Generic production quality: feels like an exceptional seasonal but nothing memorable or classic
- Nearly non-existent OST
- Less personality: It feels like it's more about checking off the boxes of a faithful adaptation


Overall, I think the remake is a solid choice & alternative to watching the older first season. However, based on what they've shown so far, the 1996 version's season two is likely going to be stronger by leaps & bounds. And while I look forward to this potentially adapting the full manga, I don't see this ever topping the Trust & Betrayal OVA, which was a one-of-a-kind artistic master craft.
@Zekkenshin also better charachter design in 1996
Dec 20, 2023 4:45 AM

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I like the original version better.
This new version they dumbed it down.

The original version was more mature audience
This new version is more aimed at young people.
Dec 20, 2023 4:54 AM

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AllGamer said:
The original version was more mature audience
This new version is more aimed at young people.


That's actually the opposite.

That's why the 1996s Anime was censored , and that most comedy was removed from the 2023s one.
Remember that both are literally adapting a Shounen Manga tho. The only exception would be the Tsuioku-hen chapters , which are borderline Seinen.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Dec 21, 2023 8:49 AM
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It's good enough I guess. Some fight scenes were better (Jinei) and some fights were worse (Saito). The soundtrack was one of my favorite aspects of the original series and with the remake not having that, it's a big detractor for me.
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Dec 21, 2023 9:21 AM
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the new adaptation much better than the original,i liked the original but this has rlly catched my interest way more than the original did and its an good adaptation , nor fast nor slow

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