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Jul 25, 2023 11:39 PM
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Ive been enjoying the anime a lot, but i am just wondering how the adaptation is and if the manga is worth reading over the anime. Also how good is the artwork because while the animation isnt bad it isnt great either.
Jul 25, 2023 11:50 PM
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As a manga fan I'm really enjoying anime... There are some cut contents here and there, but they aren't much matter as long as important parts are there...
Jul 26, 2023 12:05 AM
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I think this comment from the latest episode thread describes it really well. Plus, at the current pace, the anime is only going to adapt 8 of the 12 volumes, so if you're already considering reading the manga you should. The art in the manga isn't great at first but it gets better later on.
Jul 26, 2023 12:11 AM
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^ That dude just sounds insufferable.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jul 26, 2023 12:27 AM
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LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

Faxx people expect a god tier adaptation for every series’s when that’s not the case. Helck is a really good manga but it’s not going to be a crazy big money maker so ofc the adaptation is a lower quality than say a JJK or Mushoku Tensei.
Jul 26, 2023 1:14 AM
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Pretty good so far.

Animation is very lacking, but at least the designs are way better than in the manga.

Voice acting is absolutely top-tier. They even got Matsuoka there.

As for the plot, it’s doing a damn good job.

Not the best adaptation, but it’s not ruining anything at all.

So really, if you just enjoy the anime format better than manga, there’s no harm in sticking with it.

It’s what I’m doing for know.

But aye, it’s not like I’m gonna pretend I didn’t kinda wish for better animation lol. Such a great work could have done better with a superior staff.
Jul 26, 2023 2:05 AM
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Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Pretty good so far.

Animation is very lacking, but at least the designs are way better than in the manga.

Voice acting is absolutely top-tier. They even got Matsuoka there.

As for the plot, it’s doing a damn good job.

Not the best adaptation, but it’s not ruining anything at all.

So really, if you just enjoy the anime format better than manga, there’s no harm in sticking with it.

It’s what I’m doing for know.

But aye, it’s not like I’m gonna pretend I didn’t kinda wish for better animation lol. Such a great work could have done better with a superior staff.


Sorry but were the early chapters of the manga character designs that bad?? looking at them now i think they still hold up really well (excluding helck).
https://cm.blazefast.co/5a/77/5a77d42b4940f7a1ae06c2ab1c89db79.jpg
Jul 26, 2023 4:06 AM
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LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

Yeah they definitely do lmao. “Animation comparable to Hoshi no Samidare”, stfu dude, the animation is average stop looking for problems in a show you like
Jul 26, 2023 5:23 AM
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WSlav said:
I think this comment from the latest episode thread describes it really well. Plus, at the current pace, the anime is only going to adapt 8 of the 12 volumes, so if you're already considering reading the manga you should. The art in the manga isn't great at first but it gets better later on.

this comment is full of nitpicking garbage
Jul 26, 2023 5:24 AM
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LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

" extra chapters not being adapted "

because they don't matter at all and are literally just 2-4 pages at most lol

and then the rest of his comment is dumb nitpicking with no explanation

also, i like how he admits that the ESSENTIAL parts are getting animated, yet he Complains about cut content, fucking extra chapters being cut and pacing issues lol
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Jul 26, 2023 5:25 AM
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Peenutz said:
LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

Yeah they definitely do lmao. “Animation comparable to Hoshi no Samidare”, stfu dude, the animation is average stop looking for problems in a show you like

yeah, his comparison to hoshi no somadre is dumb
Jul 26, 2023 6:58 AM
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

" extra chapters not being adapted "

because they don't matter at all and are literally just 2-4 pages at most lol

and then the rest of his comment is dumb nitpicking with no explanation

also, i like how he admits that the ESSENTIAL parts are getting animated, yet he Complains about cut content, fucking extra chapters being cut and pacing issues lol
It was to be expected that the extra chapters won't get adapted. They aren't especially important but they did provide extra character development for many side characters and had some of the funniest bits imo. Having them adapted as after credit scenes would have been nice. A spinoff anime of the after extra would be nice too but I don't think that's realistic.
Jul 26, 2023 7:11 AM
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.

" extra chapters not being adapted "

because they don't matter at all and are literally just 2-4 pages at most lol

and then the rest of his comment is dumb nitpicking with no explanation

also, i like how he admits that the ESSENTIAL parts are getting animated, yet he Complains about cut content, fucking extra chapters being cut and pacing issues lol

He is complaining about them cutting the .5 chapters that would just fuck up the pacing to tell a random joke 😭😭😭😭
Jul 26, 2023 9:28 AM
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Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Pretty good so far.

Animation is very lacking, but at least the designs are way better than in the manga.

Voice acting is absolutely top-tier. They even got Matsuoka there.

As for the plot, it’s doing a damn good job.

Not the best adaptation, but it’s not ruining anything at all.

So really, if you just enjoy the anime format better than manga, there’s no harm in sticking with it.

It’s what I’m doing for know.

But aye, it’s not like I’m gonna pretend I didn’t kinda wish for better animation lol. Such a great work could have done better with a superior staff.


Sorry but were the early chapters of the manga character designs that bad?? looking at them now i think they still hold up really well (excluding helck).
https://cm.blazefast.co/5a/77/5a77d42b4940f7a1ae06c2ab1c89db79.jpg

It’s not exactly terrible, I just think it’s messy and kinda polluted.

I prefer clearer art.

Guess it’s personal preference.
Jul 26, 2023 9:31 AM
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Lowoto said:
Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Pretty good so far.

Animation is very lacking, but at least the designs are way better than in the manga.

Voice acting is absolutely top-tier. They even got Matsuoka there.

As for the plot, it’s doing a damn good job.

Not the best adaptation, but it’s not ruining anything at all.

So really, if you just enjoy the anime format better than manga, there’s no harm in sticking with it.

It’s what I’m doing for know.

But aye, it’s not like I’m gonna pretend I didn’t kinda wish for better animation lol. Such a great work could have done better with a superior staff.


Sorry but were the early chapters of the manga character designs that bad?? looking at them now i think they still hold up really well (excluding helck).
https://cm.blazefast.co/5a/77/5a77d42b4940f7a1ae06c2ab1c89db79.jpg

Just to say, though, the image you got is really damn good.

Specially.

Probably because it’s a simpler image just of Vermilion.
Aug 29, 2023 3:40 PM

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LostSpectre said:
^ That dude just sounds insufferable.
I was so looking forward to the anime when I first read the synopsis, but now I just feel like I'm forcing myself to watch the anime just to see when it gets good because I just don't understand the point of what's happening anymore. But I guess I can hold out since this series is only 111 chapters. The plots that are being setup just don't seem that interesting. So honestly I kinda agree with him. This anime doesnt need to be some super production like JJK but damn it just feels boring to watch sometimes.
Sep 1, 2023 1:58 AM

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Dang, I've been getting roasted here without realizing it until now. I guess I should explain myself a bit better. None of the things I listed were meant to be dealbreakers. As I wrote, the anime is still probably going to be good. However, even if they weren't big problems, they were still problems that the anime had that the manga did not. My point wasn't that the anime is bad, it isn't, just that it hasn't done anything that would make it a preferable way to experience the story compared to the manga.
Oct 9, 2023 6:45 PM
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^ That dude just sounds insufferable.
@LostSpectre Didn't even have the guts to @Frosteek and kept attacking him?
Oct 9, 2023 7:32 PM

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@LostSpectre Didn't even have the guts to @Frosteek and kept attacking him?
@Makall For the record, I still stand by what I said. Every aspect of this adaptation has been worse than or, at best, equal to the manga.
Nov 25, 2023 12:34 PM

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Dang, I've been getting roasted here without realizing it until now. I guess I should explain myself a bit better. None of the things I listed were meant to be dealbreakers. As I wrote, the anime is still probably going to be good. However, even if they weren't big problems, they were still problems that the anime had that the manga did not. My point wasn't that the anime is bad, it isn't, just that it hasn't done anything that would make it a preferable way to experience the story compared to the manga.
@Frosteek do you still stand by your statement? Helck caught my attention a while ago and i planned on reading it for a long time. then the anime announcement came out and i decided to wait. Heard theres a huge twist and then it gets rly good, wondering if it's still not worth watching anime over reading it or have the recent episodes been really good?
Nov 25, 2023 12:37 PM
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@Frosteek do you still stand by your statement? Helck caught my attention a while ago and i planned on reading it for a long time. then the anime announcement came out and i decided to wait. Heard theres a huge twist and then it gets rly good, wondering if it's still not worth watching anime over reading it or have the recent episodes been really good?
@FurySlasher I think you can skip the manga and just stay anime only. I think it's a good adaption.
However, the anime has caught up with the physical manga release so I have no idea what's gonna happen these last few episodes.
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Nov 25, 2023 3:02 PM

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FurySlasher said:
do you still stand by your statement? Helck caught my attention a while ago and i planned on reading it for a long time. then the anime announcement came out and i decided to wait. Heard theres a huge twist and then it gets rly good, wondering if it's still not worth watching anime over reading it or have the recent episodes been really good?
I still mostly stand by it. I was being a bit nitpicky in my original screenshotted comment due to how recently I had watched it. However I still agree with what I said in my comment before yours, that every aspect of the adaptation is worse than or, at best, equal to the manga. The only aspect of the anime that I thought elevated the manga was that three of the voice actors did a decent job (though the rest were just standard). I would say that, unless a person dislikes reading manga, there isn't much of a reason to watch the anime in place of the original. The anime hasn't been bad. Extra chapters and minor jokes aside, it's actually been pretty faithful when it comes to the story. However, I have already experienced the story in a way that I thought was simply better, so there isn't really a reason for me to watch it.
There isn't really a big twist that suddenly makes it good. It's just that the the earlier chapters have a much more lighthearted tone compared to some stuff that comes later. The recent episodes have adapted a part of the manga that people like a lot, and they have done a pretty good job, but they still haven't really done anything that would make them worthwhile over the corresponding manga chapters. And, even if they're not major or dealbreakers, it still has things it simply doesn't do as well as the manga did.
Dec 12, 2023 4:12 PM

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do you still stand by your statement? Helck caught my attention a while ago and i planned on reading it for a long time. then the anime announcement came out and i decided to wait. Heard theres a huge twist and then it gets rly good, wondering if it's still not worth watching anime over reading it or have the recent episodes been really good?
I still mostly stand by it. I was being a bit nitpicky in my original screenshotted comment due to how recently I had watched it. However I still agree with what I said in my comment before yours, that every aspect of the adaptation is worse than or, at best, equal to the manga. The only aspect of the anime that I thought elevated the manga was that three of the voice actors did a decent job (though the rest were just standard). I would say that, unless a person dislikes reading manga, there isn't much of a reason to watch the anime in place of the original. The anime hasn't been bad. Extra chapters and minor jokes aside, it's actually been pretty faithful when it comes to the story. However, I have already experienced the story in a way that I thought was simply better, so there isn't really a reason for me to watch it.
There isn't really a big twist that suddenly makes it good. It's just that the the earlier chapters have a much more lighthearted tone compared to some stuff that comes later. The recent episodes have adapted a part of the manga that people like a lot, and they have done a pretty good job, but they still haven't really done anything that would make them worthwhile over the corresponding manga chapters. And, even if they're not major or dealbreakers, it still has things it simply doesn't do as well as the manga did.
@Frosteek Of course you gonna bored watching anime that you already know the story or what is gonna happening next. The anticipation to know the story is gone because you'd know what gonna happen.

Just like "Fumetsu no Anata e" & "Dr. Stone" the anime is good, but because I'm curious what is gonna happen so I read manga to full fill my curiousity till caught up to latest chapter.

After that? I'm not watching the anime because I already know the story. Almost every anime, Once I read manga no matter how good the anime, it will make me stop watching it because what's the point?. So I'm always hold my self from read manga or spoiler myself with reading the source material until I don't have any backlog or can't hold my curiousity.

Once I forget the story Maybe I'm back watching the anime "fumetsu no anata e" or "dr.stone" or any anime that I already read the manga.
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@Frosteek Of course you gonna bored watching anime that you already know the story or what is gonna happening next. The anticipation to know the story is gone because you'd know what gonna happen.

Just like "Fumetsu no Anata e" & "Dr. Stone" the anime is good, but because I'm curious what is gonna happen so I read manga to full fill my curiousity till caught up to latest chapter.

After that? I'm not watching the anime because I already know the story. Almost every anime, Once I read manga no matter how good the anime, it will make me stop watching it because what's the point?. So I'm always hold my self from read manga or spoiler myself with reading the source material until I don't have any backlog or can't hold my curiousity.

Once I forget the story Maybe I'm back watching the anime "fumetsu no anata e" or "dr.stone" or any anime that I already read the manga.
I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think that entirely works here. First of all, I have reread the Helck manga several times, and enjoyed it greatly each time. Knowing what was going to happen didn't make it a bad experience, and in some ways improved it. In fact, while the anime was airing, I decided to reread some of it for the sake of comparison, and ended up reading it all again and enjoying it. The fact that I didn't enjoy the anime as much wasn't simply because I already knew the story. If that was the reason, I wouldn't have enjoyed rereading the manga either.
For another thing, I do sometimes watch the anime adaptations of manga I've read. As a recent example, I watched a couple episodes of Pluto, which was a manga I've already read, and really enjoyed it. I plan to start from the beginning and watch the rest of it with someone else around Christmas. I don't watch a whole lot of seasonal anime anymore to begin with, but when a manga I really like gets an adaptation, I try it out. If I don't like it, it isn't because I already know the story, it's because the adaptation itself had shortcomings. I'll be doing it again next season with Sengoku Youko. If it's an adaptation that continually disappoints me, like the last Mizukami Satoshi adaptation, Hoshi no Samidare, then I will drop it.
Dec 13, 2023 8:58 AM
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Trolls hate on the story, not just the cheap animation. Even if you think you're holding the high ground as a manga reader, once you end up in their camp, you damage both anime and manga: next time you'll bring up the manga, it will be treated like the anime. Learn to disconnect from social hysteria.

People who approached this completely unaware of what it was, had the best time. No rivalry with the old fanbase, no obsessed talk about budget and production. Good for them, Helck is a gem.
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The production is obviously mediocre and it's mainly due to their reliance on Namu Animation as an outsource. Direction is on point and captures the best moments despite the limitations, it's not as tone deaf as biscuit hammer. Voice actors also do a splendid job. The addition of a main action animator helps along with mr beat giving his all as he orders a million retakes from the low-skilled animators. Production was also done way ahead of time so season 2 is expected soon.

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