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Oct 28, 2023 9:28 AM
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Mia got dressed up for a ball party this episode.

You can tell how she plans her life with every detail but also trying to get the most of it. The dance itself was charming to watch, especially with teh magical-like aura and chereography. I think Mia herself wasn't fully prepared and flustered a bit. Still, I think this is the most elegant episode of the show so far.
Oct 28, 2023 9:36 AM
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I thoroughly enjoy the diverse ways they show the guillotine in this series.

The ball is upon Miss Mia, and Princess Mia's meticulous preparations have been flawless. Yet, a sudden mishap with her dress and makeup disrupts her carefully laid plans. Meanwhile, a noble unwittingly becomes ensnared in an imperial kidnapping scheme.

Admiring how Mia can express something straightforwardly, yet everyone else delves two or three layers deeper, like astute theorycrafters. Thanks to her memories from her past life, Mia comprehends the dynamics at play. Consequently, she takes it upon herself to address the issue and discusses it with Rafina. Surprisingly, the outcome surpasses her initial expectations, partly because of her newfound candidness about her experiences in prison.

Abel is best boy.


Oct 28, 2023 9:49 AM
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Tiona certainly is the target of some others the question is will those who wished malise upon her have learned from this incident.
And Abel seems to be pretty insecure but it's clear he is impressed Mia wether that will evolve into feelings for her is something for future episodes tho.
Sion on the other hand is confident and has the skill to back it up but there are some misunderstandings here but those might work in Mia's favour.
And Mia made a friend which is nice.
Oct 28, 2023 9:51 AM
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Honestly at first I didn't expect this anime to be this fun considering how dark the first episode is.
Oct 28, 2023 10:00 AM
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Selfish reasoning wins the day again.
Oct 28, 2023 10:02 AM
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eps 4 pas dansa aneh banget
Oct 28, 2023 10:06 AM
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Mia sure has a talent for bringing back people from the abyss of despair. Anne really outdone herself with her choice of dress for Mia though. Abel finding his spark for wanting to improve himself was a nice thing to see. The dance at the ball really was impressively animated. Princess Rafina really has a pretty interesting personality that shows not just grace but also a degree of intimdation as well especially when she needs to get serious as shown in her little chat with Mia. A fearsome ally but also one that would ensure that what Mia does is always just.
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Oct 28, 2023 10:12 AM
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Mia looked amazing in her dress at the ball and she dances so elegantly
Oct 28, 2023 10:23 AM
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There is a term common in the J-Novel Club forums when discussing this franchise (JNC is translating both the LN and Manga.)

Miaitis: This ailment expresses itself in fantastical misinterpretations of Mia's motives and intentions. Those afflicted with it become her most ardent fans and supporters. Princess Mia finds this baffling...but if it aids her in avoiding the Guillotine, she's not going to kick.
The Snarky Narrator is very aware of this ailment, and takes great joy in pointing out instances of it.

The thing is...while Mia's understanding of her motives contradicts the spin others place upon her actions, that doesn't change that her actions are admirable when observed without knowing her reasons for them.
And they do serve to inspire others to act in a manner supportive of her long term goals...both those imputed to her by others, and her true desire to avoid excessive and terminal neck pain.
This episode was an excellent example of this.

Mia ain't no freaking 'Champion of Justice.'
Mia just wants to keep her head upon her shoulders.
Her 'wisdom' boils down to "Take action to prevent being disliked enough that they'll freaking kill you!"; the odd thing is that this is wisdom, something far too many rulers in RL failed to keep in mind.

All of that aside, doesn't she have the most expressive face ever?
Mia expressions are a wonder and a delight.
Oct 28, 2023 10:26 AM
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The two little CGI snippets were awful but I'm really loving the story so far, might have to get the LNs that are out
Oct 28, 2023 10:50 AM
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Literally "What if Buggy the Star Clown was Marie Antoinette..."
Oct 28, 2023 10:57 AM
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This just my opinion

Maybe it can be concluded that in the previous timeline, Tiermoon's imperial servants tried to lock up Tiona without Mia's knowledge. Tiona's servant who ran away will meet Sion's servant Keith and finally, they conclude that this is all Mia's doing, because Mia also insulted Tiona in the previous scene. Ultimately, this is where the relationship between Tiona and Sion started the revolutionary movement in the empire.

It was from this scene that Rafinha-sama heard the scene and looked at Mia with a cynical look.

In the current story, because there is Anne who keeps Mia trusted, the future really changes

Iona, who tried to come to the ball in an ordinary dress, made Prince Sion see her and read a message from Keith that this had something to do with Mia as a plan from the princess of the empire.

In the previous timeline, Mia tried to show off that she was invited to dance with Sion, and Sion, without caring about Miia, immediately asked Tiona, who had just come from the tower. The letter from Keith made Sion think that Mia's invitation to dance was to buy time so that Tiona didn't get to dance.

Mia was just trying to dance, and because no one had asked her to dance before, even though Mia was very good at dancing, in the end she became a loner there.
Oct 28, 2023 11:26 AM
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Oh I forget to mention that Keithwood's kinda look similar to a general isekai-genre protagonist, if this anime is lead by male character instead of female, then he should be casted in that role.
Oct 28, 2023 1:02 PM
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Amazing! It's such a well-constructed plot that it delights me. I can say that karma is on Princess Mia's side! 😁
Oct 28, 2023 1:15 PM

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Awesome episode! Loved the dancing animation during the Sion and Mia scenes. She may not have wanted there to be, but definitely some nice chemistry between the two of them lol.

Poor Abel, having to watch from the sidelines as Mia and Sion put on a masterclass, but at least she promised to help him with his dancing. Plus he’s the first guy to actually see her as a girl so he’s got an advantage.

As usual, Mia’s antics result in her looking like a benevolent genius in this episode. The ballroom dance went well and now she’s got three new allies.

Pacing was a little fast, but again you’re always gonna have that with LN adaptations. Make sure you read the LN if you want the full version.
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Oct 28, 2023 2:04 PM
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There's always a ballroom dance in these kind of "princess" story shows. Quite enjoyable to watch with the comedy though.
"You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat

Oct 28, 2023 2:42 PM
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"The future has not been written. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
-- John Connor
Mene, mene, tekel, parsin
Oct 28, 2023 2:45 PM

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Mia is so cute in this episode, love how Anne acted as well.

A solid anime.


Oct 28, 2023 2:50 PM
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Mia's actions are the moral equivalent of using the wrong equation but getting the right answer anyway lmaooooo.

Also this is the time I've seen CGI used for ballroom dancing. Usually, I'll see it for Idol dancing. It's a little jarring to see it flip from CGI to 2D, but it's not unwatchable. The 2D animations are really good 👍.
Oct 28, 2023 3:11 PM

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This just my opinion

Maybe it can be concluded that in the previous timeline, Tiermoon's imperial servants tried to lock up Tiona without Mia's knowledge. Tiona's servant who ran away will meet Sion's servant Keith and finally, they conclude that this is all Mia's doing, because Mia also insulted Tiona in the previous scene. Ultimately, this is where the relationship between Tiona and Sion started the revolutionary movement in the empire.

It was from this scene that Rafinha-sama heard the scene and looked at Mia with a cynical look.

In the current story, because there is Anne who keeps Mia trusted, the future really changes

Iona, who tried to come to the ball in an ordinary dress, made Prince Sion see her and read a message from Keith that this had something to do with Mia as a plan from the princess of the empire.

In the previous timeline, Mia tried to show off that she was invited to dance with Sion, and Sion, without caring about Miia, immediately asked Tiona, who had just come from the tower. The letter from Keith made Sion think that Mia's invitation to dance was to buy time so that Tiona didn't get to dance.

Mia was just trying to dance, and because no one had asked her to dance before, even though Mia was very good at dancing, in the end she became a loner there.
@Rifad That would make perfect sense if that were the case. I don't suppose we'll ever know though, Mia's knowledge of the past timeline is only what she herself experienced and wrote about after all.
Oct 28, 2023 3:14 PM

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the small comedic moments are very funny
ow + nw = 90-2000s


Oct 28, 2023 3:46 PM

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I’m loving this story so far. It makes me wanna pick up the light novel. This has become my second favourite thing airing this season
Oct 28, 2023 4:09 PM

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Rafina looks like non-loli Index
Oct 28, 2023 4:15 PM

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I can't get enough of the convenient misunderstandings of this show and the facial expressions are always so funny, it has to be my favorite new show from this season and this season is packed with so many that cater to my taste.

and while people are bitching and crying about some odd frames in Jujutsu Kaisen animation and etc. I'm just glad that dance sequence in this show was so beautiful.
Oct 28, 2023 4:43 PM
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Wow, the ball dance between Princess Mia and Prince Sion was definitely the best highlight of this episode. It was beautifully animated.

But if you ask me, Anne is actually the real MVP here because her unselfish actions actually changed the course of history when she decided to help Tiona, which in turn made Mia look quite favorable. It's just the anime doesn't show this impact well compared to the manga.
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Oct 28, 2023 10:42 PM
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the cgi made me smash my head into my nintendo switch. 10/10 episode
Oct 29, 2023 12:42 AM

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Give us more Anne aventures!
And give us more Liora too, she is so cute ❤️
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

Oct 29, 2023 12:49 AM
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Mia handled the situation & the opportunities on the table well, she is making a good comeback as well.
Oct 29, 2023 12:59 AM

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I like seeing how the Princess' selfishness is being directed towards the right path, since she's scared of dying. A perfect motivation for someone as self centered as her. And the misunderstandings in this anime do not annoy me at all, surprisingly.
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Oct 29, 2023 1:56 AM
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The CG was pretty noticeable and jarring, but it was still another great episode in a series with nothing but great episodes so far.

Definitely one of my favourites of the season.
Oct 29, 2023 2:23 AM

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At this point, Mia can use misunderstandings for world domination lol.

This show is so underrated. Very entertaining. Easily became my most favorite show this fall 2023.
Oct 29, 2023 2:30 AM
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I loved this episode. One of my favorite aspects is how when some people talked badly of our “Wisdom of the Empire” others would stand up for her. We know she doesn’t have the best intentions, but people see her actions and gain belief that she isn’t a bad person. I find it cute 🥰
Oct 29, 2023 2:45 AM

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Lol everything Mia does comes to reward her later. She has the devils luck itself. Quite amusing though. The dance looked beautiful btw.
Oct 29, 2023 3:12 AM

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Mia-sama.
Mia-sama...
Mia-SAMA!!!

I just want to say that out loud.

To think even Kirito is here... lmao
Well played, Mia. You got yourself another admirer, without you knowing. lols

P.S. I forgot to say how lovely Mia is in her simple attire.

However, they made the zoomed-out part "CGI" which is kind of weird, but, the dancers form was splendid to the eyes.

I can't pick which one... Mia or Tiara...
CrazyButNot4UOct 29, 2023 4:28 AM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Oct 29, 2023 3:50 AM
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Mia’s dress looked beautiful.
The white and smal golden parts makes it so shiny thanks to the light.
This is now my favourite anime dress.

The dance was so amazingly good, this episode was wonderful.
Oct 29, 2023 5:03 AM
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I started this anime mainly out of boredom, not expecting anything special, but I am very surprised at how good it is. Episode 4 especially. The dance scene was lovely and I am so so in love with prince Abel and hope we get to see his and Mia's relationship develop. I am looking forward to the next episodes!
Oct 29, 2023 6:00 AM

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Wearing that much perfume? That didnt seem like a good plan she originally had. That can be suffocating. That white dress suited her well.

The 2D animation of the dancing was nicely done and the CGI shots werent too bad when kept for distance shots and partially camouflaged with the lighting effects but certainly noticeable
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Oct 29, 2023 6:37 AM

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I love how this episode portrayed Tia becoming more humble, which was beautifully shown in her modest dress design just like she was willing to lower other's perception of her by lowering herself to Abel's level by leading him in dance.
This subtle development makes it clear, that Tia is actually becoming a better person and is not just pretending to avoid guillotine.
Definitely the Black Horse of the season, just like the other Sumire Uesaka loli anime, that is airing the same day.

Oct 29, 2023 7:16 AM

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im so so enjoying this show so much !!!

really excited waiting for next epiosde !!
Oct 29, 2023 7:56 AM

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On this week of SASUGA MIA-SAMA, Mia won over the 2nd Prince by just giving him dance lessons (and a confidence boost I guess) and also gaslight Princess Rafina into a more "learning experience"-type of punishments.

While also winning completely over Tiona and Prince Shion's bodyguard by doing nothing lmao
Oct 29, 2023 10:01 AM
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What’s disappointing so far is the complete omission of how her diary changes as she goes along and so far no matter what she does she still gets executed, albeit under slightly different circumstances.
Oct 29, 2023 4:55 PM
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I’m enjoying so far. The only thing I’ve genuinely hated about this series was the CGI during the dance scene. I don’t make a huge deal about CGI and I don’t think all CGI is bad, but Jesus that seemed to serve no purpose and it was absolutely horrid. Hopefully they don’t chose to use that again 🤣
Oct 29, 2023 5:12 PM

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What??! i was not expecting for them to focus on the Sion/Mia dance at all! amazing work, adapting this and the kidnapping incident side-by-side!
Oct 29, 2023 6:42 PM
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Good episode, they managed to have a kidnapping and a dance going on simultaneously and they did it pretty well. The only thing I can really complain about in this episode is the CGI dancing, it just looked awful.

Also where is that diary at now?
Oct 30, 2023 12:42 AM
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I really liked this anime.So funny.
Oct 30, 2023 10:34 AM
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She succeeds accidentally
Oct 30, 2023 6:33 PM
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This anime is very fun, I hope some kind of love triangle doesn't emerge, the story is going well for now ._.

I love these inserts that they add, xddddd



Oct 30, 2023 9:02 PM
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I love Mia and Abel together. I thought the scene where he first saw her at the ball was so cute. I hope we see their relationship continue to develop
Oct 30, 2023 9:54 PM
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I'm liking the amazing artwork in these still shots they've been showing at the end of every episode thus far.

Oct 31, 2023 2:32 AM
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Loving the story escalation happening. Everything is NOT going according to Mia's plans which is quite good. hihi
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