Tsundere Akuyaku Reijou Liselotte to Jikkyou no Endou-kun to Kaisetsu no Kobayashi-san Episode 8 Discussion
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| That was probably the biggest battle this anime has shown so far with its stakes. Still, there were a lot of complicated feelings in this episode too. Lieselotte and Sieg shared a memorable moment again because this anime has really wanted them to bond together since the beginning. They deserved their moment if you ask me. |
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| Lieselotte's nightmares from the Witch of Yore don't stop, and so is Sieg's endless pandering of passion for her love. The Anti-Witch of Yore's committee is coming along nicely, except one person: Professor Leon Schach, whom Fiene's mother the Fae Princess Elizabeth actually knows very well and has quite the relationship with him as the illegitimate son who's taken in and ridiculed by the other nobles when he was 7. And meeting as adults 17 years later for the first time in a long while, they've had quite the tryst as the master and student surviving in ruthless nobility. Where the persuasion comes in as a favor from Elizabeth, the disciple Leon, as expected, chooses not to get himself involved in this matter. Another day goes by, and Sieg becomes more outlandish for his love for Lieselotte, and her tsundere-ness easily shows. Amidst the trouble of getting wrapped in darkness and doubting of her feelings for Sieg, the Witch of Yore is gaining traction, but Liese is not backing down from her fight, finally being able to regain ontrol of her own being. This sets Sieg on the direction that Liese has upgraded her tsundere-ness to worshipping him as a deity, but that's not what he wants her to become. Instead, just the guy and girl in complete vulnerability towards each other in love, and with the confirmation, this would suffice. It's great that both Seig and Liese had their moment, and so too did Endo and Kobayashi in complete exhilaration and embarrassment. Looks like the Witch of Yore can be defeated, but its moments are not over and done yet. Easily the best episode in terms of resolution so far. |
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| Wow what an episode man more great eats on this wonderful Friday. Elizabeth and Leon backstory was fun. Poor Leon, thinks he got a chance with her “I’m the same age your husband was” she shot that shit down so quick lol “Could it be you feel the same as me, your highness” “I love you.” LETS GOOOOOOOOOO FINALLY. Our beloved prickly princess got nothing to hide anymore and feelings are laid bare. Don’t look like the witch of yore is gonna just let it go like that tho, I wonder what this calamity will be. And most importantly, endo and kobayashi classic trip and land on top of each other moment lol. Need my boy endo to work up some courage. |
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| So Fiene's mother Elizabeth had a secret relationship with Leon as master and apprentice. The two of them met when Leon was seven years old and they have become kindred spirits who were screwed over by the nobles. Elizabeth taught Leon everything she knew about magic including using the secret chamber. Unfortunately Elizabeth wasn't able to recruit Leon to fight against the witch of Yore as she suspects that Leon has feelings for her causing her to be torn between her past love and her future love. The witch of Yore continues to work into Lieselotte's nightmares, but she managed to resist the witch of Yore for now giving her more confidence in her feelings for Sig. On the other hand Endo and Koboyashi's relationship seems to be progressing nicely. |
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| They made progress indeed - and not just in the game world. ;) I wonder what the witch will do from now on, though - it's clearly not quite over yet, but as the prince has also conquered his own jealousy, I no longer suspect him as the witch's replacement victim. The end of the episode may imply an entirely different plan, even. |
luinthoronFeb 24, 2023 12:35 PM
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| No way they actually aired the last episode this week lol. Because for many reasons it felt that way. But given that isn't the case, now to see if witch of Yore actually going to change its way or not, as it ain't going anywhere with the usual, "He doesn't love you". |
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| Great episode! Here's hoping Liselotte's bad ending has been prevented. Very smooth moves from Siegwald πΉ My girl was so flustered, she just straight-up leapt out of the carriage |
| lise and sieg finally admitting their feelings to eachother. now for endo and koba to admit their feelings next |
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| That moment with Fiene's mother and Leon was really nice. They first met 17 years ago at a party and Fiene's mother didn't appreciate all talk about Leon. She took him to a room after releasing her pet mouse on everyone and they had a chat about nobles and how everyone is their enemy, from family to friends. This is where Leon decides to be her student learning magic from her for only a short amount of time. Sieg is being a lot more assertive when it comes to him showing affection to Liselotte. That bit in the carriage as well, "I'll save dishevelling your hair for another occasion" lol. It was nice to see Liselotte fight back against the witch of yore as well. Another lovely Sieg and Liselotte moment at the end where they both express their love for one another and for Endo and Kobayashi too. In the excitement to follow Endo teleports to catch Kobayashi from falling. Both main couples had their moments at the end. I do really want to see more Endo and Kobayashi tho, they are so good together. |
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| It was interesting to see the backstory on Fiene’s mom and Leon, but she sadly couldn’t convince him to help the gang out with the witch, I bet he’ll come around eventually but for now he’s on the back burner. And Lieselotte got into another rut with the witch and Sieg’s directness was actually having adverse affects on Lieselotte, but thankfully she had the resolve herself to overpower the witch in her dream which was a pretty awesome moment, but I think they could have picked a better color for water she was submerged in, it looked like she was drowning in shit lol. And Sieg did a gamer move and ended up convincing Lieselotte that he’s not being nice to her out of pity with an epic hug, I also enjoyed her “tsunde-really pissed” moment before that lol. And the best part about this show is not only do we get the romantic moment of the game characters, but we also got the immediate reactions of Endo and Kobayashi which was amazing and reflects our reactions as viewers lol, and not only that, we also got a great moment between the two of them that made for a back to back romantic power combo, love to see it. |
I have a wild Theory how this anime could go so hear me out. So Liese banished the Witch of Yore kinda randomly this episode. I felt out of place and severely rushed but hey, it happened and she's out of the picture. I figured she would return at the end of the episode, which she did, to which she said "Curse that Woman, and that world." NOW WHAT IF The Witch of Yore goes into the real world and curses Kobayash! Then Endo AND THE VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS HAVE TO SAVE HER?!?!?! Honestly a wild and crazy theory but IMAGINE?!?!? We know that Gods can already go to the real world too Because all the relationships in the game are pretty solidified, NOW we need to solidify Endo and Kobayashis relationship. great episode. Something about Fiene's mom and Leon bothered me especially when she said "I'm really sorry" but other then that great episode. |
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| Finally Liese knows what's up and a mutual confession happened sheesh. Now we gotta see Endo and Kobayashi will work out. That weird celeb guy looking for "Eve" will prolly appear again lol. |
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| What a lovely episode, Liese tan is too pure and her love for Sieg is both her strength but also can be used as a weakness, it was just great just having those two be honest and confess their love hugging but then they added that Kobayashi x Endo bit at the end. |
| The Witch of Yore pushed the wrong button |
SoraSenpai said: Holy damn, yeah that would be really cool. I also felt that the Witch of Yore was defeated way too quickly and easilyI have a wild Theory how this anime could go so hear me out. So Liese banished the Witch of Yore kinda randomly this episode. I felt out of place and severely rushed but hey, it happened and she's out of the picture. I figured she would return at the end of the episode, which she did, to which she said "Curse that Woman, and that world." NOW WHAT IF The Witch of Yore goes into the real world and curses Kobayash! Then Endo AND THE VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS HAVE TO SAVE HER?!?!?! Honestly a wild and crazy theory but IMAGINE?!?!? |
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| Sieg and Liese's relationship certainly developed this episode! All thanks to the help of Endo and Kobayashi pushing Sieg on! I'm glad Liselotte was able to break free of the witch of yores manipulation. I hope Leon thinks about his loved teachers request! |
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| "Just look how beautiful the sky is! But of all the things in this world, you're the most beautiful, of course." Awwww Sieg! You should have participated in the last MALentine event, you would have won! Lol. Seeing Sieg being a pro flirt made me laugh, pffttt. Hahahah. I didn't expect Fiene Mama to have a relationship with Leon-sensei... sad that Leon was rejected right away lol but I guess it would be complicated if there are bad rumors about Leon and Fiene Mama (which might be bad for Fiene and Liese). |
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| Fiene's mom is so cute. Unlike Fiene. A romance between Leon and Fae? Master and pupil? That's so taboo. But it's what makes it so exciting. Liese and Sieg's relationship has advanced. And it was thanks to the Witch. Wonder how the Witch of Yore will counterattack. |
| Awww, so cute! An honest conversation in a tsundere anime? And they actually understood each other and confirmed their feelings? Wow! |
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| Finally Sieg calls Liselotte by her nickname... And lol trundereally-pissed is just tsundere to a T |
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| QUE TIERNO POR LA XUXAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Wn me encantó la pare final con el progreso en los dos romances protagonistas. Fue demaciado lindo. Mi unica queja es que era necesario un beso entre Sieg y Liselotte. Tristemente no se dió pero me conformo con lo que nos dieron. Gran cap. |
| [ltr]Actual romantic development!!! In my romcom!! [/ltr] [ltr]That's a very good surprise. [/ltr] [ltr]Really loved the episode and glad to see more development on that part. [/ltr] [ltr]Only thing I want is I hope the teacher/mother thing stays that way tbh. [/ltr] |
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| Sieg and Liese finally expressed their feelings, the hug was sweet. Was hoping for a kiss but oh well. Things are going really well, feel like something bad will happen. |
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SoraSenpai said: I had this EXACT same thought!! There's already something odd about Kobayashi's character in relation to the game world as we saw when Kuon mixed her and Fiene up. I'm really hoping that'll be the case!! I have a wild Theory how this anime could go so hear me out. So Liese banished the Witch of Yore kinda randomly this episode. I felt out of place and severely rushed but hey, it happened and she's out of the picture. I figured she would return at the end of the episode, which she did, to which she said "Curse that Woman, and that world." NOW WHAT IF The Witch of Yore goes into the real world and curses Kobayash! Then Endo AND THE VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS HAVE TO SAVE HER?!?!?! Honestly a wild and crazy theory but IMAGINE?!?!? We know that Gods can already go to the real world too Because all the relationships in the game are pretty solidified, NOW we need to solidify Endo and Kobayashis relationship. great episode. Something about Fiene's mom and Leon bothered me especially when she said "I'm really sorry" but other then that great episode. |
| This ep gave me diabetes |
| HAHAHA! I thought there's gonna be some hot messy MILF action because i heard VA Sayaka Ohara! lolz oh man these two Endou & Kobayashi can just go ahead and Farg haha they are alone in the house so anything can escalate leading to y'know! 5/5. |
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| Fight back the witch with the power of Love. |
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| I'm so happy for her!!! ç.ç my daughter is growing up so fast ♥♥♥ |
| Another awakening,they just keep coming! As subtle as it may be, Lisel, felt maybe just an echo of the voice of the gods! |
Roch2001Mar 11, 2023 3:33 AM
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| HOLY... So Fiene's mom was already non-princess-like from the start... didn't expect that. Also... dude... I could have sworn that if she didn't have Fiene, she would have gone on a rampage of killing nobles... . And she asks Leon to help out, but gets rejected. As Leon's "condition" for helping out... is most likely wanting to "NTR" Fiene's mom... (but dude had some restraint and didn't said it out and reject to help instead) . Sieg... that was a bit TOO strong, LOL "I'll wait to dishevel your hair another time" Dude literally suggested "Segs" (or not, cause Sieg's not that lewd, but he sure does sound like one) And then Liese gets shy and literally flew out of the carriage... LOL And it looks like telling Sieg to be more straight forward was a bit of the wrong move, since Liese misunderstood all of those to be "out of pity" But Liese still fights off the evil temptation with the power of "LOVE" lol. . LOL, WTF is "Tsundere-Pissed" HAHAHA |
amlgJun 14, 2023 9:22 PM
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| Finally Liese and Seig confess how they felt sincerely. |
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| That commentary was GOLD!! However, If anyone had said those things at my school's basketball games, they would probably get bullied. |
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