Ok so who wins?

Sep 29, 2022 1:59 AM

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Inexplicable

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Sep 29, 2022 3:10 AM

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He pretty much got everything he wanted

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 29, 2022 3:11 AM

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animedude1287

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Sep 29, 2022 3:13 AM

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oataoa

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At ep 4 only you basically saw nothing yet, so yeah, it’s not lie i’m gonna cry if you don’t watch it, your loss, i don’t see why people would care about a stranger not watching something xD

personaly i think i couldn’t care less, such a useless topic creation xD

oataoaSep 29, 2022 3:22 AM

Sep 29, 2022 3:25 AM

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Piromysl

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Ending is open and screams potential second season.

Sep 29, 2022 3:55 AM

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Piromysl said:
Ending is open and screams potential second season.

If this anime gets 2nd season then i hope they focus more on the characters and not the obvious garbage plot they will be writing.

Sep 29, 2022 3:57 AM

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Kitsune_089

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Well he's still alive

Sep 29, 2022 4:28 AM

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oataoa said:
At ep 4 only you basically saw nothing yet, so yeah, it’s not lie i’m gonna cry if you don’t watch it, your loss, i don’t see why people would care about a stranger not watching something xD

personaly i think i couldn’t care less, such a useless topic creation xD

Buddy this is the longest response on this thread.

Sep 29, 2022 8:40 AM

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Rin_Narumi

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it's kinda like a 50/50. bad guy kinda gets what he wants and Chisato can now live his life.

Sep 29, 2022 8:47 AM

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Say-My-Name said:

oataoa said:
At ep 4 only you basically saw nothing yet, so yeah, it’s not lie i’m gonna cry if you don’t watch it, your loss, i don’t see why people would care about a stranger not watching something xD

personaly i think i couldn’t care less, such a useless topic creation xD

Buddy this is the longest response on this thread.

He's not wrong, though. If you're rooting for a guy who had 3 minutes of screentime in 4 episodes (those 3 minutes being the last 3 minutes of episode 4), it's probably because you hate the main characters. If you want to see the mains lose, just drop the series - you honestly should have dropped it from episode 1

Sep 29, 2022 8:52 AM

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Fail_Man_X said:

Say-My-Name said:

Buddy this is the longest response on this thread.

He's not wrong, though. If you're rooting for a guy who had 3 minutes of screentime in 4 episodes (those 3 minutes being the last 3 minutes of episode 4), it's probably because you hate the main characters. If you want to see the mains lose, just drop the series - you honestly should have dropped it from episode 1

Not really. It's clear the mains work for a kinda scummy organization. Anyone who fights them has nice enough intentions.

Sep 29, 2022 9:02 AM

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Say-My-Name said:

Fail_Man_X said:

He's not wrong, though. If you're rooting for a guy who had 3 minutes of screentime in 4 episodes (those 3 minutes being the last 3 minutes of episode 4), it's probably because you hate the main characters. If you want to see the mains lose, just drop the series - you honestly should have dropped it from episode 1

Not really. It's clear the mains work for a kinda scummy organization. Anyone who fights them has nice enough intentions.

Attempted mass murder is "nice intentions"?

Sep 29, 2022 9:23 AM

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Fail_Man_X said:

Say-My-Name said:

Not really. It's clear the mains work for a kinda scummy organization. Anyone who fights them has nice enough intentions.

Attempted mass murder is "nice intentions"?

Actions=\= intentions

Sep 29, 2022 10:12 AM

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Say-My-Name said:

Fail_Man_X said:

Attempted mass murder is "nice intentions"?

Actions=\= intentions

At episode 4, there is no higher purpose to his actions. He saw a peaceful city, decided "this is boring", and shot up a passenger train.

Sep 29, 2022 10:19 AM

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Fail_Man_X said:

Say-My-Name said:

Actions== intentions

At episode 4, there is no higher purpose to his actions. He saw a peaceful city, decided "this is boring", and shot up a passenger train.

Even before episode 4 you hear him on athe phone, talk about how much he hates the rotten system DA has created. And I shared the same thoughts five minutes into episode 1. Seriously, do I need to explain why the DA is a bad bunch?

Sep 29, 2022 10:22 AM

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L decision just watch it and see

Sep 29, 2022 10:24 AM

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Mrassassin124 said:
L decision just watch it and see

The moral dilema is literally the only good part about this show everything else is people losing it over cute girls with guns and an aimbot who don't miss. Those 4, almost five episodes I watched were more than enough for me to understand that.

Sep 29, 2022 11:11 AM

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Say-My-Name said:

Fail_Man_X said:

At episode 4, there is no higher purpose to his actions. He saw a peaceful city, decided "this is boring", and shot up a passenger train.

Even before episode 4 you hear him on athe phone, talk about how much he hates the rotten system DA has created. And I shared the same thoughts five minutes into episode 1. Seriously, do I need to explain why the DA is a bad bunch?

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same guy. If you're referring to the the green-haired terrorist, I'm pretty sure he has no lines in any of the first 3 episodes.
As for DA, no one is going to suggest that a government organization should be allowed to execute people extra-judicially under normal circumstances. However, DA is an idealized version of secret police. 5 minutes into episode 1, you see people about to commit violent crime, they are thwarted, and you think that's bad?

Sep 29, 2022 11:24 AM

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Chisataki wins period.

Sep 29, 2022 1:37 PM

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there is no clear cut bad guy per say there is just abunch of grey area mortality for all 3 organizations

Sep 29, 2022 3:59 PM

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he definitely gets a lot of validation imo

Sep 29, 2022 5:17 PM

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oataoa said:
At ep 4 only you basically saw nothing yet, so yeah, it’s not lie i’m gonna cry if you don’t watch it, your loss, i don’t see why people would care about a stranger not watching something xD

personaly i think i couldn’t care less, such a useless topic creation xD

Sounds like u care a lot if u wrote this long of a response lmao

Oct 11, 2022 12:40 AM

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I guess it's Majima's moral victory.
Because he outperformed and outsmarted Chisato and Takina at the end.
Good prevails over evil, in a sense. But I'd say for the most part, Majima (who isn't strictly speaking evil) wins.

Nov 29, 2022 7:56 PM

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Fail_Man_X said:

Say-My-Name said:

Even before episode 4 you hear him on athe phone, talk about how much he hates the rotten system DA has created. And I shared the same thoughts five minutes into episode 1. Seriously, do I need to explain why the DA is a bad bunch?

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same guy. If you're referring to the the green-haired terrorist, I'm pretty sure he has no lines in any of the first 3 episodes.
As for DA, no one is going to suggest that a government organization should be allowed to execute people extra-judicially under normal circumstances. However, DA is an idealized version of secret police. 5 minutes into episode 1, you see people about to commit violent crime, they are thwarted, and you think that's bad?

no, that isn't bad at all. what's so bad about them is the fact that they cover it all up and manipulate the general public into believing everything is fine.. protecting people is good. controlling and brainwashing people is evil. as for majima, hurting people and inciting violence is bad. however, showing people the truth is good. if you keep buying your kid a new goldfish every time the old one dies you aren't doing him an favors..

Nov 29, 2022 7:57 PM

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No one wins. It feels like a stale mate.

Nov 30, 2022 7:59 AM

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DayDream_Dog said:

Fail_Man_X said:

Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same guy. If you're referring to the the green-haired terrorist, I'm pretty sure he has no lines in any of the first 3 episodes.
As for DA, no one is going to suggest that a government organization should be allowed to execute people extra-judicially under normal circumstances. However, DA is an idealized version of secret police. 5 minutes into episode 1, you see people about to commit violent crime, they are thwarted, and you think that's bad?

no, that isn't bad at all. what's so bad about them is the fact that they cover it all up and manipulate the general public into believing everything is fine.. protecting people is good. controlling and brainwashing people is evil. as for majima, hurting people and inciting violence is bad. however, showing people the truth is good. if you keep buying your kid a new goldfish every time the old one dies you aren't doing him an favors..

I think there is value in lying to a child to maintain their innocence. It's how we get fun things like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. You also get stories of pets running away and storks, because parents don't think their kids are ready to handle the concepts of death and where babies come from. Now, is there value in a government lying to its citizenry? I agree with you and am in favor of more transparency, not less.

Nov 30, 2022 8:28 PM

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Fail_Man_X said:

DayDream_Dog said:

no, that isn't bad at all. what's so bad about them is the fact that they cover it all up and manipulate the general public into believing everything is fine.. protecting people is good. controlling and brainwashing people is evil. as for majima, hurting people and inciting violence is bad. however, showing people the truth is good. if you keep buying your kid a new goldfish every time the old one dies you aren't doing him an favors..

I think there is value in lying to a child to maintain their innocence. It's how we get fun things like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. You also get stories of pets running away and storks, because parents don't think their kids are ready to handle the concepts of death and where babies come from. Now, is there value in a government lying to its citizenry? I agree with you and am in favor of more transparency, not less.

ok, valid point there. maybe not the best comparison on my part, but it gets the general idea across.

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